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lawn of the white house with more on this this incident was seems safe at the moment, but has certainly rattled otherwise quiet sunday afternoon. lucas question eric. it's not often hear sonic boom in the dc area, and that's exactly what people heard around 3 p.m. eastern time. the big boom is a sonic boom coming from an f 16 fighter jet as you mentioned launching the d, c national guard at andrews home, 100 and 13th win the reason they scrambled because there was an unknown cessna. we're told, flying a radically in the dc area ignore radio calls that have 16 was cleared for supersonic and but when the jets responded that cessna the faa says crashed outside of stanton, virginia, which is not too close to dc but certainly a strange twist, but certainly has a lot of people's attention here on a sunday afternoon in washington. there certainly is this especially at that says no 1, 72 or 1, 50, or skyline crashed. it's very odd. we don't know what may have
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brought that plane down. we don't have a confirmed that it actually did crash. i've been down to andrews air joint andrews base with those f sixteen's. i've interviewed the pilots. they're on standby alert, basically what they call it, you know, hot, warm, hot, ready to take off. this is a stems from 9 11. the jets standing there ready to roll if there indeed, there is a threat to that capital white house triangle area, any other indication on the ground of any type of exercises or alert or anything at the white house that could have indicated there was a cause of concern there. which is not normally you hear a sonic boom, especially on a sunday afternoon in washington , eric and the right away knew that something was a little out of the ordinary and the fact that these f sixteens were launched. as you mentioned these are alert aircraft armed alert aircraft in the wake of 9 11. they've been, you know, standing watch here at andrews ever since and the fact that
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you have, you know, assessment flying and not responding to radio calls. it's always a warning sign to the fda and also norad and we're awaiting a statement from norad. we were told they're putting that together right now until we learn more, but we just know that alert fighters were scrambled from andrews air force base to intercept this unknown aircraft was assessed and not responding to radio calls and has reportedly crashed outside the d. c area. certainly hopeful to get more information on what caused that crash. it was shot down or if it the pilot was incapacitated. sadly thank you, lucas, uh, for the report, and have you stand by right there? yeah eric, meanwhile, chief congressional correspondent chat program is joining us on the phone. first of all, chad. did you hear the sonic boom and also are you hearing from any of your sources with reaction? i did not hear the boom but a friend of ours did people all over the washington metropolitan region , then all the way from annapolis, maryland to manassas , virginia. that's a distance
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of about 75 miles. but trying to track this down is like trying to put together pieces of a puzzle. everybody here in washington that heard this sonic boom, but then i was told a little bit after this digging into maybe what this incident was. is that the security posture at the united states capitol building was flipped from green to yellow. there are four levels that they have green, yellow, blue and red, green, yellow, blue and red. they went from green to yellow briefly because they saw this plane this cessna at, you know , in restricted airspace around washington, dc, now i'm told that the capital itself, the capitol building itself was never a threat. this didn't come any place close to the capital. but as you say, you know, in the post 9 11 world, they have a secure airspace around washington, d c. and then after a few minutes, they determined that this plane was not in fact a threat to the capital, and they went back to normal procedures where they did not dump the building. this
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is something they did. last year. it was around may or june of last year, where there was a plane that flew over washington, dc, and there was a miscommunication it was, you know, an event for the washington nationals baseball team at the ballpark there, and they actually evacuated the capitol. they went to read because there was a miscommunication at this point was supposed to be there that close to the united states capitol but again anytime they have any aircraft that pierces that security perimeter around washington d. c. they're going to take notice here in washington and they're going to do you know, take those measures to protect the capital protect the white house, etcetera, and that's exactly what they did briefly here and then i was told after the they cleared the capital. said there wasn't a problem here. that's when people heard the sonic boom. and so that's what lucas was was talking about here. scrambling the jets from joint base andrews just outside washington, d c to protect the region and then this plane, apparently, you know, has gone down in virginia and stanton, virginia, west of charlottesville. yeah and as you said it went from yellow to
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green to yellow briefly back to normal now, though, become tomorrow morning, chad. what kind of briefing will you be expecting? they're going to be lots of questions that would be asked. yeah and most of this is going to be you know what happened at this point? um you know, there will be questions on capitol hill. as you know what did happen how capital affected. that's the kind of the congressional lane there, but this is more of a regional lane. as to what happened with this plane. why did it, you know take you know such a strange path? why did it pierce that airspace? we've had that happen before i remember back in in 2004 2005. we had a couple of errant jets just, you know, cessnas that just flew off, you know, improper error air paths and landed at leesburg, virginia. you had a lot of that in the early days. the first couple of years after 9 11. we see a lot less of this, but you know this plane here. it certainly caught the attention of people at the capitol and they want to have,
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you know, answers again. they didn't dump the building. i think that's important to you know, at the point out because they didn't perceive this as a threat. but again, it also attest to just how good some of the security features are now the capital that they are aware of these types of things. there is a system in place to deter errant aircraft communicate with them, and i think the main thing ourselves that they were worried about was that this was a very peculiar flight passed by this plane, and it was unresponsive, and that's the issue that always gets them when it's something like that. absolutely and you know if you would talk about if there are any underlying back line issues currently, uh, that could cause this particular incident to be more alarming than at any other time. well the issue there is that they seem to be pretty johnny on the spot that they knew what they were doing in this one. the incident last year that was a flight path that had been preapproved preapproved to fly by the capital by the nationals
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baseball park, which is just a few blocks from um from the u. s capitol. i was at the ball game yesterday. in fact and park pretty close to the capital and walked down. it's not that far, and in that instance they completely went to code red and evacuated the capitol. and it was really in this communication because some people were aware that the plane was supposed to be their last year. some people were not in this instance, they seem to have handled it much better because they said, okay, here's a bogey. here's a plane that's not supposed to be here. we're going to take things up a notch at the capitol because it's pierced that protective bubble around washington, d c. and then when they determined it was not a threat, they went back to code green. yeah well, that's that's good chat. if you could stand by for us over to eric right now, we are getting some information into the newsroom here that it may have been a cessna citation. that's a jet a small jet that it was being escorted by the military aircraft at about 30,000 ft and then went down to 6000 when the
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aircraft broke off and it has crashed. in some mountainous areas near stanton, virginia. this is not fox news is not confirmed this if, indeed if this was a citation, small jet lucas thomason's at the white house now with the very latest in there, lucas, what do you have? would just confirming what we've been hearing in. that is that this was an unknown jet. whether it's a assessing our way over the citation that it was flying a radically, of course, the big fears when you can't hail or contact this aircraft on the on the radio and chad using the nomenclature. well, they're about a bogey. you know an unknown aircraft. people are very alert to these kind of things here in the washington area in the wake of 9 11, you just cannot have unknown aircraft flying in restricted airspace. i think we'll probably helped it was that the fact that this happened on us? sunday afternoon that if you know, the capital was fully staffed, the white house here is fully staffed at the pentagon might have been a much different response. of course on a weekend. it's pretty much skeletal crews at all these places. in fact, president
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biden was playing golf at andrews air force base is golf course there, and he's back now at the white house. but probably much different situation. if this was had happened during the week, eric there's some other reports that this was, you know, a private jet, says nurse citation, not a propeller plane that took off from elizabeth. tennessee on its way to iceland airport, which is in iceland. macarthur now arthur up in the middle of long island. uh this is all not confirmed yet. so that would indicate that maybe it wasn't like a small plane that was lost, but perhaps as a small private jet that may have run into some type of trouble being escorted, and then they say, crashed 300 ft below a mountain. near stanton, virginia. we have had cases in the past locus, where small private jets have depressurized where you know people are passed out pain. stuart stuart , exactly his the golfer, his
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flight. this this happens occasionally with these small private jets. this is not confirmed, but the reports do say coming in that it could have been a citation. but the fact that the f sixteens did encounter and then start to escort of the plane away from washington, d. c. seems to indicate then it was not a terrorist type of threat. all right, and the fact that there was a flight path filed at probably rules out that the plane was stolen. we have seen that in the past, you know, somebody breaking into a plane . sometimes they're not even locked there on the ramp and taking off for a joyride or whatever the reason, but the fact that there was a flight pad flight plan from you know, east tennessee to i slip if you mentioned it also means that probably would have been a lot of fuel in that aircraft just starting the flight, so that's certainly a concern as well. when you talk about aircraft, and they're loaded with fuel, so then it's potentially very dangerous situation. yeah, the aircraft took off from
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elizabethtown municipal airport and elizabeth in tennessee. a citation according to the reports. this, though not confirmed by fox news. on on its way to i slip. you know, it always is very alarming. of course, anytime they get these type of situations that we will have to find out tragically. what happened to this plane who was on board whether it was a business people or family coming back from some vacation and why, indeed, it was acting erratically and it seems, ultimately crashed, whether it was mechanical problem or mechanical failure on board that plane or something else, but for now, the pilot yeah, exactly. ah so for more you are right now, lucas, everything is basically status quo. that's right. i'm looking around here, eric and you would not tell that there was this kind of inflate emergency about the white house. everything appears normal here at the white house right now. alright. the ntsb will, of course, be heading this investigation with the reports of this citation. plane crashing in virginia about 157
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miles south. of washington, d c, which is you also have to wonder lucas if the plane was traveling north from tennessee to i slip. you know why is it now? suddenly down and starting , so we'll have to wait until we get some more information, and we will get that in a few moments. stay with us here on will have much more on this breaking story coming up. with align probiotic. you see... your gut has good and bad bacteria. and when you get off balance, you may feel it. the bloating, the gas - but align helps me trust my gut again. plus, its recommended by doctors nearly 2x more than any other probiotic brand. just one a day naturally helps promote a balanced gut. and soothe occasional bloating gas and discomfort. align probiotic. welcome to an align gut.
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coverage of the plane crash reported. plane crash after sonic booms heard in washington d c era the south started about two hours ago at 3 p.m. eastern time when residents were pretty much rattled on a quiet sunday afternoon in d. c and maryland and virginia by hearing a loud sonic boom officials say that came from f 16 fighter jets of the air national guard that were scrambled from joint base andrews because of an error intrusion. into the security zone of downtown washington, d c. that's the capital down to the white house. that area. this follows reports of a small plane that was unauthorized and entered that area and then apparently was escorted away. there are some reports on confirmed by fox news that this potentially was a cessna citation citation is a small executive jet that took off from tennessee and was on its
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way to iceland. macarthur iceland airport, which is in the middle of long island, new york, and then to crashed about 157 miles south of washington, d c. and staunton, virginia by a mountain peak about 300 ft below a mountain peak, local reports there in virginia, saying that there was apparent airplane crashed there this afternoon. very sketchy details . not a lot confirmed, but we do know it's a quiet, uh, beautiful day at sunday late afternoon in washington, d c but this is why we have the security services. responding to any possible threat cartel. yeah and you're right, eric. and right now we're going to do is get captain chuck nash on the phone with this, captain nash, as you know, is a retired u. s naval captain. so captain nash, if you would listen to pentagon, of course, not taking any chances, acting quickly tell us what goes into a call to scramble the fighter jets. well our tell this has been
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going on ever since 9 11 and various national guard units were brought in from all over the country to do their duty is sick, you know, psy click through operating out of andrews and other air force bases in the area, and they were put on very high alert. and for a while there they were actually flying. what's called combat air patrol. they were actually airborne in racetrack patterns just in case. case something where to happen. they went from that posture to an alert posture. where the jets are on the ground, but the cruiser briefed, ready to go and they stand to watch and then rotate through there. so once the call is given, then they're up and off the ground on a hot vector toward the perceived threat. now these two incidents that occurred the cessna 1 82. this is not that unusual that somebody blunders
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into the airspace, the flight restricted zone around washington, d. c it's a 60 mile circle. if you will, that goes pretty much all the way around. there are a couple exclusion areas for general aviation airports in the vicinity, but for most part, it's 60 miles. around the main navigation aid in washington, d. c so, um, anything that flies in there? you have to be either on an if our or instrument flight plan where you're talking to air traffic control, or you have to have filed into a local airport , and you have to have gone through training and received a number that you can use that you can tell when you file so that they know who you are and where where you're going, and everything is watched very carefully. if somebody stumbles into this thing, and mostly it's pilots who are not from the washington, dc, northern virginia maryland area they're transiting. and they are either
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unaware or they mess up their navigation and they wind up flying into this thing, and that's why they'll either launch a helicopter or a fast jet like an f 16 or f 15, depending on who's standing that duty and what units are assigned that responsibility to actually go up and look at these intruders, and then they have various procedures to force them out of the area. they landed a local airport they're met. by officials, and that's probably depending on what happened. you could lose your license. lot of different things happened from that point on captain dash. if you could stand by for me, i've got to take a quick break. but eric and i will have much more on this breaking news story for you coming up after this. brief break.
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the phone again and chat. as you said earlier. the reaction was swift and according to plan what they did when they saw this bogey. this plane, you know, out of the proper security bubble. the air security bubble around washington d. c i am told that security officials at the u. s. capitol itself changed the security posture. they have four postures there for what they call an air con. so you know, green, everything is fine . then you can go down to yellow, blue and red, so they flipped it briefly from green to yellow because this plane was inside of that bubble, and i'm told that very shortly after that they went back to green because they determined that this aircraft even though it was not supposed to be there, it was not a threat to the capital. i am told that the actual flight path it was kind of parallel to the capital. it was nowhere near the actual united states capitol itself. and i'm also told you know, of course, that the sunday afternoon there's nobody really on capitol hill tonight. day
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here in washington, d c. a lot of tourists and things like that the congress was not in session or anything like that. we just got through with the debt ceiling. it's a different matter when we were all capital last week with the negotiations for the debt ceiling, but this sonic boom shortly after capital security officials reverted to the green posture with the air con is when they heard the sonic boom. and in just the past few minutes here , we've gotten a statement from the virginia state police. that they are searching for a plane near stanton, virginia. now, if you look at this on the map, you might think it's pronounced haunted because it's s t a u n t o n its way up in the mountains in virginia, about an hour or so west of charlottesville but is pronounced stanton and the virginia state police say the following 3 50 pm the virginia state police were notified of a possible aircraft crashed in the stanton blue ridge parkway region. search efforts are still underway by state and local law enforcement. nothing has been located at this time they police unable to fly in
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the area due to fog and low clouds within the mountains. i mean, this is a pretty mountainous area, you know you're down, probably anywhere from 2.5 to 3 hours to the southwest from washington, d c and buy cars. so this is nowhere near washington d. c. i understand in a couple of times. but it's been years, but it is way up in the mountains down in that part of virginia. but again, the key here was that the security system at the capitol worked. you might recall that last year we had an episode where they have evacuated the capitol one weeknight here because the army golden knights parachute group associated with the army. they were doing a parachute. the delivery of the game ball to the washington nationals stadium. they were playing just a few blocks away. i believe they were playing the arizona diamondbacks that night. and there was a miscommunication as to whether or not that plane was supposed to be there or not, and so they went to code red at the capitol and evacuated the building. but then they very quickly realized this was a miscommunication
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that plane had been authorized. they did all the proper paperwork and there they really had an investigation because obviously something did not go right there. here everything went the way it was supposed to go. according to a security standpoint and again, all of this has been put into play. in the post 9 11, you know, era keep in mind that it took them several years, but the central intelligence agency finally concluded a couple of years after 9 11 that the fourth point uh, you know, the one that crashed in pennsylvania that that was intended for the u. s capitol. as you know, of course, one hit the pentagon here and then the fourth plane that you know, crashed in pennsylvania. the target was the united states capitol, and that's why they have you know these systems where they always have the, uh, you know that the jets hot at andrews air force base, ready to go in case there's an emergency, and that's certainly what happened. yeah and, thankfully today, it does not seem that any sort of nefarious activity is happening
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. in this case. it seems like it. it's a blunder on the part of the pilot. but you did tell his chad that the virginia state police there's searching starts in virginia for that plane down plain and you mentioned how mountainous mountainous the train is. so it makes me think that if there is someone on board who has survived this crash, they may not even be able to get any sort of cell coverage out there to make a phone call. calls you get down in that part of virginia and i've been down in there are a number of times. in fact, i have a good friend from stanton, who works here in washington, dc news to work on capitol hill and i just know how mountainous and world that area is. in fact, if you if you went back and watched the tv show the waltons that if that was set in that part of virginia bolton's mountain, it's very mountainous there and you're not going to have great cell coverage. the fog can roll in very quickly, and this is where the virginia state police are saying that they cannot get any sort of aircraft up to search to see if, in fact, there was a plane there, but but again, you know the thing that we were tipped off on this
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earth l is that so many people in the washington metropolitan region for this sonic boom and again i was told that people as far away as annapolis, maryland, which is on the chesapeake bay to manassas, virginia, which is getting out to the extreme western edge of the d. c. suburbs that's about 75, miles as the crow flies between there, and people heard this. in fact, my you know my wife's friend had heard something and asked if we had heard something. i actually didn't hear it at the time. um we have heard sonic booms here in washington d. c when they do have various exercises or something of that nature, but that's what what? what rattled everybody initially. and what had happened from reporting standpoint is i just started calling around to see if there was an explosion somewhere. and of course, i always start checking people with the capital first, and at first, everything said no. we don't know anything. and then we found out that they had had this change in security posture at the capitol, and as i said, this is kind of like putting together a mystery here because they had the initial plane and then they heard the sonic boom.
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so we're trying to determine you know the link there in terms of the you know those jets being scrambled because the plane the original play in the fashion of pierced the security bubble around washington, dc yeah, it's alarming, you know, especially in this day and time, so this is not a situation, especially since it was heard so far, it had to be that loud. sonic boom , of course is concerning and typically, you know, you've got americans even though they're just enjoying this wonderful weather on this lazy sunday afternoon. they're taking action. they're making phone calls. they're calling to find out. what is this? this is what i heard. what can you tell us? chad? standby for us. we have to i have. 10 minutes 10 seconds. go ahead, chad. you know everybody in washington who has lived here since 9 11 every time they hear something , explosion a big boom everybody here because it's this post 9 11 ptsd that puts everybody's radar and alarm up. and this is an example of that. absolutely you hear something? something.omething? we
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right now. breaking news 16 scrambled from joint base, andrews caused a sonic boom about three o'clock this afternoon eastern time. in washington, d c rattling windows and nerves throughout our nation's capital area. a private plane we're told violating the temporary flight restriction area of downtown washington. fda has a statement saying that a says no citation. that's a jet. crashed 300 ft below amount in stanton, virginia. that's 157 miles south of washington officials not linking those two events publicly. yet reports say that flight was between elizabeth in tennessee to slip macarthur airport in iceland long island fly to her says the plane was supposed to land in long island at 4 19 was due to turn around about half an hour ago. and fly down to daytona beach, florida we don't know if that is indeed
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the plane that crashed, reports say the military jets escorted that plane at 30,000 ft, so john scott joins us now fox news anchor who's also a pilot. so, john, if the if the military jets are indeed escorting a plane at 30,000, that's not a small propeller cessna. no 1 72. that would be a citation, private. jet what? walk us through this what you think may have happened. what are we dealing with? i already know something about what has happened. and all i can say eric is that it's weird. this cessna citation 5 60, that is, you know, a significant business jet. you buy one to the day the first flew in about 1987. you buy one today it's going to cost you at least a million bucks could go 2.5 3 million, depending on how much time is left on the engines, so this cessna jet took off from tennessee. apparently it belongs to some kind of a car racing company. um it took off
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from tennessee. it was supposed to land. at macarthur airport, which is on new york's long island, you know part of new york city. it actually flew past long island, then did a complete u turn in the air. started heading back to the southwest flew directly over washington d c. i've seen the flight path of the jet. we're trying to get a map of it up on the screen, but it flew directly over washington d. c so that's got to be what scrambled those fighter jets and then it while it was flying at about 34,000 ft, it started spiraling downward. and crashed into the mountains there near stanton. at one point, the average rate of descent was more than 28,000 ft per minute. that's an unsurvivable crash. obviously uh this thing was basically going straight down.
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was it out of fuel? perhaps was the pilot somehow incapacitated? perhaps. the fact that they are not able to locate the crash site tells me you know that they have not been able to thus far at least tells me that it probably was out of fuel because if you've got fuel on board in any kind of a crash like that, that fuel is going to explode and set off a significant fire or at least a smoke plume. the authorities last we heard had not been able to locate the crash site in a in a fairly wooded area there in tennessee, or i'm sorry in virginia near stanton, virginia. so that tells me that it probably was out of fuel. but again, we don't know we're getting some information now. john from norad, confirming that the f sixteens did not. take down that plane, so it sounds as if it did run out of fuel. let's just back up for a second, if you can, because, remember the pain stewart crashed and this has happened occasionally. these private jets depressurized the run out
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of oxygen. he's flying from elizabethtown, tennessee. supposed to land at i slipped at 4 19. apparently doesn't as you said, maybe you turn is going back south could he have been trying to deal with whatever is in the cockpit makes that turn and then you know, potentially is unconscious. and then the plane just keeps on flying south happens to fly right over the nation's capital and runs out of fuel and crashes. it could be erica. you know, that's why i say this is just a weird accident. he overshot he or she , the pilot overshot macarthur airport on long island, which was the intended destination destination. they flew another 50 miles beyond long, arthur beyond long island. and then made that you turn in the air that i talked about. and then at 34,000 ft, flew right over the nation's capital. now let me explain what we're looking at here. this is an aviation map of the area around washington, d c. and if you see that blue circle that looks
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like a zipper, um, that large blue circle that's the sfr, a the special flight rules area. around washington, d c. it was instituted in the months and years after 9 11 any aircraft that's going to enter that blue zipper has to be in touch with with authorities on the ground , and you have to have a discreet code that you're squawking. now there's sort of an inner circle also outlined in blue around reagan airport. reagan airport is the solid blue dot in the center of this map. obviously that's very close to the capital, the pentagon, other sites that were attacked or potentially attacked on 9 11 so that that center circle you cannot fly in there under any circumstances, unless you have, you know, registered in advance, even if you're a pilot, given your fingerprints and you have to be on what's called an instrument flight rules plan, meaning that
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you know, your your movements are sort of controlled by, um, the flight plan that you filed ahead of time. and if you deviate from that instrument flight plan, you're going to be in serious trouble. now this aircraft i'm just guessing did not have um, the special flight plan that it needed to have filed in order to cross over the airspace around our nation's capital, and that's why they scramble those 16 reported on those f sixteens at andrews air for at and er joint base, sanders and they are basically what they call hot ready. they're they're plugged in. so to speak. uh the engines warmed up there ready to take off at any moment. 11 is the story of the heroism of their national guard, one of the male pilot two planes took off when they had the report of the flight that crashed in pennsylvania and in radio contact, the pilot told the female pilot who was flying you
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take the take the tail. i'll take the cockpit. they were gonna have a suicide mission and crashed themselves into the flight that eventually crashed in virginia. so hats off to the to the military. they protect our skies. any sense, john from you as a pilot of you know, why wouldn't if the plane the citation and it's not just a small private jet. it's a pretty hefty medium sized private jet. why wouldn't potentially the pilot land sooner if he came into any trouble if he is incapacitated ? what would explain the u turn? that's it's a mystery to me. i can't explain any of it. to me. this is almost as mysterious there. here's the flight path of that aircraft. um and you can see it took off . the lowest portion of the blue line is blunt, ville, tennessee. that's where the plane took off. it flew up toward, um, new york's long island. and then it made that
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you turn and went right over. if you look at the blue line, it went right over the nation's capital. and then that spot on the map that shows the yellow aircraft. that's approximately where it went down in the woods in the mountains near stanton, virginia. it's at this moment, eric. it's as weird to me as malaysia. 3 70. it's just a mystery what happened and they haven't completely found what happened with malaysia. 3 17 0 . no, they haven't. um and they haven't found much of the wreckage of that aircraft. but they're just so many questions here, and we might never get the answers because you know if their plane went down as rapidly as it seems like it did. it's gonna be tough to tell. you know it's going to be tough to piece this thing together and they don't have flight data recorders, i think is the larger airlines do. um stay with us, john. we will have much more in the developing story. this strange flight of the cessna citation
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jet that we're told, has crashed in virginia. after flying over our nation's capital and causing a bit of an alarm and scrambling of f sixteens or fox in his lifecon.
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>> arthel: a private jet now down in the blue ridge parkway region in staunton, virginia. fighter jets were scrambled when the plane flew through d.c. over the capitol this afternoon. but we're being told those fighter jets did not down the plane as there was not a security threat. let's bring in right now kyle bailey, a pilot aviation analyst, former faa safety team representative. mr. bailey, first of all, if this was pilot blunder, he would have been still in communication with air traffic control, but with no response, those fighter jets were scrambled. could jon scott's assessment be spot on, that the pilot could have been in distress? he could have been running out of fuel? something happening on board of that jet? >> that is correct. at this early point, i think jon scott hit it right on the head. you know, if the airplane did not run out of fuel, also there is a possibility of a possible problem with the pressurization
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of the system, which led to the pilots or pilot being incapacitated. this particular airplane actually could be flown by one or two pilots. you will find in a lot of instances, if this, say, a privately owned small jet might be flown by just one pilot, but typically, a private jet is flown by two pilots, and they basically know where they are at all times. typically, there's a second set of eyes which is the co pilot who also knows the exact location at every given moment the airplane is flying, so it is very strange that this happened to a private jet. my initial thoughts were it was a small airport, and we see that occasionally happen, where whether it's a student pilot or a private pilot inadvertently stray into that airspace, but it's very surprising that this was a private jet, and the fact that we see that u-turn there. >> arthel: i was going to ask you, what do you make of that straight flight pattern?
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we have it up on the screen right now, starting in blountville, virginia, i mean, tennessee, and then going up northeast around new york and then back down straight across the middle of washington, d.c. what do you make of that? >> you know what? when i first heard this, pretty much the payne stewart plane crash that happened years ago where they had a pressurization problem with the aircraft came into mind, so if the pilot is incapacitated and loses oxygen, they could either one or both pilots completely out cold in the cockpit of the airplane, and the plane basically would be like a ghost plane until it ran out of fuel, but it's just very very strange, this u-turn, it is really unexplainable. typically when if there's a loss of pressurization or the pilots become unconscious the airplane usually flies in pretty much a straight line. you normally donn see the u-turn. even up at a high altitude such as 30,000 feet, typically the
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auto pilot of the airplane is on, so whether it was on, and it was somehow disengaged or malfunctioned, and the plane swung a u-turn, it is just very hard to know at this point. >> arthel: and you said that this particular type of plane could be flown by a single pilot or could have had a co pilot, but at some point, they are in communication with air traffic control, so they would know how many on board and there would have been a manifest; right? >> exactly. they would have been on a flight plan up at altitude, so the controllers would know exactly where they are. it is not like it was 20 years ago where we're strictly using ground based radar with gps technology and satellites, we can pretty much see these airplanes on our iphone as a private citizen. to answer your question, air traffic control knows where the airplane is at all times, thanks to today's technology.
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>> arthel: walk us through the ntsb investigation. what will they be looking for and trying to assess? >> you know, it's interesting, i think in this instance here, i mean, the flight -- that flight path and we're pretty much getting little pieces of it right now where we're seeing that it was at high altitude, they will piece through that. they will piece over the air traffic control tapes. they will go over every aspect, you know, everything from the mental conditions of both flight crewmembers, and, you know, the other interesting thing is that this rate of descent seeing in excess of 20,000 feet per minute, that's a very very steep dive, and, you know, you would have to wonder too, is it possible that the airplane actually broke up in flight? now they are claiming the airplane was not shot down, so if that was the case, i think there is a possibility that
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possibly the airplane could have broke up in flight, if it was in a real steep dive, there pretty much could have been failure of the actual airframe of the airplane, such as a wing breaking off in flight, and that's why we might be able to see that very steep descent rate that is pretty abnormal. >> arthel: very abnormal, very strange, and then we're not even sure at this point what will be there at this crash site when it is eventually found because you don't know how many pieces or fragments to this plane will be there to be discoverable. before we go here, kyle, will the ntsb coordinate this investigation with the pentagon given that those fighter jets were scrambled at some point this afternoon? >> yeah, i mean, i think it will probably include the fbi and the ntsb. you know, they want to rule out that there was no wrongdoing. but like you said, the fact that there was no communication, you
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know, it's leading me to believe possibly a possible incapacitation of the pilots because normally they would be in communication at all times. >> arthel: kyle bailey, really appreciate your jumping on with us this afternoon. we will have much more on this breaking story coming up on "the fox report" with jon scott. stay with us here on fox news. thanks, mr. bailey.
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