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>> that assau that is all our time, thank you for joining is, we'll see you next weekend hope company back. right now stay tuned for "life, liberty and levin." enjoy the sounds of billy joel on the way out, ♪ ♪ a big shot ♪ ♪ you had to i am shannon bream. more candidates prepared to enter the front of the white house and in iowa the gloves come off. ♪ flex i am going to counterpunch i'm going to fight back by. >> adult is going to be number two of her lungs heading south very rapidly for courts of front runners for the gop nomination trading shots in trying to sway voters. they join a massive roster of candidates in 2024 hopefuls revving up their messages ahead of next year's caucuses. >> they really want to make sure they get this right.
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but with the best president to take out present by the 2024. wetzel said of iowa governor kim reynolds chair of the republican governors association to discuss the influential role her state plays in the process. then, the default averted. with just days to spare present biden signs a debt ceiling deal into law. now, the political fallout. some democrats are blasting each other over a provision to greenlight a pipeline project backed by joe manchin. >> were talking about taking people -- a pipeline to not get built in mid air book center mashable join us life of that backlash plus republicans are saying the deal does not do enough or defense spending. >> it does not adequately fund our military given the threat we face for. >> will ask arkansas senator tom cotton about the impact of that compromise. plus we'll get our sunday panel taking the deals plan to un- positive student loan payments. all right now on "fox news
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sunday". love on fox news in washington. nearly every single republican presidential candidate descendent on iowa this weekend. hoping to build goodwill in the nation's first 2024 caucus state reported governor desantis was in his first full week of campaigning aims to define himself and to redefine his biggest rival former president donald trump. desantis joined mike pence, nikki haley, tim scott and many more in kicking off the critical summer campaign and iowa. we'll stick with the governor help introduce them to islands not a safe key player. i would governor kim reynolds first rich edson has a report on how the candidates are jockeying for headlines. >> hello iowa. >> for republicans it all begins with governor kim reynolds estate, iowa is the first contest in the republican presidential nomination.
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caucuses early next year gop candidate started campaigning in the state. florida governor desantis launches first campaign in des moines tuesday and cheaper rather than rival former president donald trump request also recognized a lot of voters are never going to vote for him or we have to accept that request jump also accorded i will voters at several events intensified his criticism of desantis. >> you do not with him as your president. most of the gop field spoke at sender joni ernst bryden fundraiser former president mike pence is only when he joined burns in the right portion of repentance officially announcing his candidacy wednesday and an event in the mind. trump skipped altogether and talk to social media. whether to former ready-made or anyone else the dictator in north korea.
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next we will are surprised. one, kim jong-un is a murderous dictator prefix trumps campaigns of the former president should peace through strength and call desantis a puppet of establishment warmongers. former un ambassador nikki haley said you do not congratulate a thug. >> it is exactly why we have to be serious about this race. that is not even what we should be talking about. >> it is hallmark of american presidential politics, i will come up motorcycles the politicians and the news correspondent to buy them. and those who don't. and go get some barbecue. >> rich as an reporting from iowa for joining is now governor kim reynolds of irish as chair of the republican governors association. covenant welcome to "fox news sunday". quick shannon it's great to be with you thank you for the opportunity precursor of the event yesterday but the "des moines register" notes resident trump took a pass that is so far avoided multitenant events like these islands have come to expect real face time with the
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presidential candidates. sender ernst who puts together the roast and ride sent the last opportunity for the president that he make a mistake by not showing up? >> i think is a missed opportunity we had nearly 1000 islands that were at the state fairgrounds to listen to the candidates that are vying to be the president of the united states. when i left was the energy in the room for the number of islands that showed up on a beautiful saturday. they stayed until the very end. they are listening, they are asking good questions. they are engaged because they know this election is really important. we have to get it right. come to iowa. come often. talk to islands, make your pitch. let's make sure that her strongest foot forward and for a republican to be an ex-president of the united states. space is to see the polls and hear the chatter president trump with a lead. he had a convincing win and the election. what do you make of the
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headlines and say this is a done deal to foregone conclusion for genetic islands are open to listening to other kenneth you're getting a couple more this week. >> it's really early if you look back on history of the caucuses you will see maybe he was ahead right now maybe not necessarily is the winner of the caucus it is early we do not the first debate until august the caucuses not until early next year. read the iowa state fair. we do not have a field settled that with tumor kenneth announcing this week. so again, i think islands are really taking the time. because again they know how important selection is and they want to get it right. i see them showing up out of these immensely had kenneth and i will already i've attended many of the events. i have offered to do that and each one of the events they are filled with iowans and they are engaged and listening and asking good questions. it is early. i think there is a lot of
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opportunity again come to iowa, make your pitch let's get this election process started off in the right manner. >> is a lot of debate whether iowa is a good opening task for the country for the democrats are still debating this and change in their schedule. working on changing that you remain first for now. for the gop it looks like that will stay. in the meantime there's those essay does not reflect america less fun of our most recent polling with what people are most concerned up personal inflation and higher prices followed by future of the country than higher crime rate than political division. so it does not mirror what's going on in iowa? what are the candidates being pressed on by voters there? what do they care about? >> think the economy, the inflation, high costs and limit our physical health is really strong and iowa. we are cutting taxes. we are reducing crime. we are providing educational freedom for iowans. so we are a little bit different than what is happening nationally. think that is again while republican governors are showing really the stark contrast to
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what we see from the bite administration. safety and open borders, the cost of living. they want a president that will stand up for the american people, that have the moral convictions to do the right thing. to respect the people that we serve. that will secure the southern border. that is what they are looking for in a president. somebody that will step in on day one and will really begin to undo the devastation divided administration has unleashed on this great country. they want somebody that understands what this country provides and the opportunities that exist and reflect that in their message and in their actions. that is what they are looking for. shannon: will talk about site action you have taken because governor santos officially in the race has taken to saying that iowa is the florida of the midwest or florida is the iowa on the southeast. you all taken on really tough legislative priorities and your agenda has mostly gotten past. i want to talk with the school
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voucher issue pray this is one where public money is being used to let parents take the money to follow their students where they want to go over there are crates like the house minority leader there and i would say this, iowans are overwhelmingly opposed to vouchers because public money is for public schools they do not want more public schools to close. for families and attend one of the 75% public schools in a rural area without access to a private school there is no new choice for them. it only means fewer opportunities for their kids. what you say to those parents and students? >> out have them take a look at the election that we just had. i went iowa by nearly 20 points brigham one of my number-one parties as provided islands with the choice to make sure their child was in an environment they could be the best they could be. we work to your singing school choice across the finish line in the primaries the candidates were for school choice overwhelmingly one for the people of iowa selected them. i overwhelmingly one.
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we passed universal school choice in the first two weeks of the session. we had a very aggressive schedule. we actually launched it on ma may 31. and in the first three days of the program being open to iowa parents, we had over 10,000 500 iowa parents sign up to put their child, to give their child that option. but we also at the same time provided flexibility for public schools. we gave them the flexibility to pay their teachers more to increase salaries. so i believe educational freedom what elevate all of education. we will be better off for it. and they know that and that is what scares him more than anything. that will enhance education make public and private better. it is one system we are finding students not a system. we will provide generational change i'm excited about the future of our kids in this great state. shannon: the debate over school
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choice is a heated one will show up in a lot of elections for anyone to talk about to you mention that look like you're going be a number of governors who are sitting national guardsmen and women down to the border. human rights is on the groups got involved in this. they say this about the governor, sending troops to the border is a political stunt that empowers xenophobic anti-immigrant extremism. how do you respond to that and how do you have a conversation that moves things forward on the issue of immigration of the case of the border? >> humanitarian crisis that we see at the border the amount of drugs, the cartel, the human trafficking. what children are being forced to do is unconscionable. this president has not done his job. governor abbott asked for help to help address the crisis at the southern border and i am proud routine republican governors stood up to send troops and law enforcement to help governor abbott in securing the solvent free of this great
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country. it is the right thing to do. i am proud of republican governors for stepping up and filling in the gap this president has refused to do. it is a constitutional duty to protect the sovereignty of this country and he has failed. the impact it's having at each and every one of our state does not stop at the board of the increase of change places a stated inclination to initiate and filling powers. it is odd for both. have to stop at president is going to take the lead to do it means to be done until we can president flapped in the 24. >> she should have happens, hope this year the state fair if not before breaking my life. >> completely coins, thank you. but panel buried deep dive. editor-in-chief and acxiom's contributor josh kraushaar former spokesperson jan eight,
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judge holmes and it is vince coglianese. welcome everybody. the two front runners taking thousands of this week. we need eight years again. if he needs eight years don't vote for him. this country it will be hopping in six months for cuts former presidents and he can slay the deep state in six months my question to him would be you already had four years why didn't you slate then? >> up to josh's this week. starting with josh h. they're officially going at each other right now. >> they are a lot of voters have been waiting this for quite some time. he had a delayed announcement of the candidacy with desantis everyone is waiting with baited breath hoping at some point he can answer some the charges president trump and his campaign have been a lobbying against and now we saw. we saw back-and-forth. writing ron desantis with all of
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the visuals campaign itself left people wanting add meat to the bone. i think this is a discussion that advantages him in many, many ways engagement president trump of what you did over the last four years is seldom pushed out the way. there are polls that show the former president with a gigantic lead in iowa and other places. says there is no way we lose iowa. as a fascist ron desantis lifted a really bad things to lose at this point. trump told supporters. vince, is that how this plays out or it desantis has to do a lot of things are is that a combination of that? >> desantis is approaching from the policy perspective. we heard earlier in the segment is talk about how iowa is the florida of the midwest right and vice versa. that is a nod iowa has a
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contentious abortion band desantis is going to run on i'm going to fight for the goals you are fighting for republicans in iowa from the guys are doing it in florida. a ground spread here's the thing that no one has retail politics like trump and nobody for that guy walks into a room everybody thanks he is their best friend. ron desantis has a long ways to go to catch up their pit is a challenge. iowa is a very tactile state it's in your face in person state. ron desantis is going to have to learn how to have interpersonal skills of the hopes when the primary. shannon: in the meanwhile trump team firing back a poster selling gutters santos electability is a myth this is the memo that went out. trump poster tony argues desantis is the riskier choice because the possibility has poll numbers could change significantly in the face of democratic attacks. trump and biden do not face the
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same risk giving voters greater familiarity with them in the records. josh, the take is that all of desantis talked with his supporters talk he would do better in the general. they say their internal polling shows a different story. >> trump is a known candidate. you love him or hate him and people know where they stand. those numbers are baked in pre-desantis has a lot more room to show he is a good cannon on the camping trip with the retail politics really important. outdoing that grip and grinning at iowa. the roast and ride. shannon: eat the corn dogs progressive gotta do that. who will talk about national polls all day. but, if you get someone like desantis who scores an upset in iowa that changes the whole national political dynamic. i think trump not being there was a missed opportunity. very confident about his standing this republican field. that is also like desantis or
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anyone else to get an upset by spending time in iowa during the retail politics and appeals to the average voter. shannon: chris christie gideon this week wall street journal peggy noonan had an interesting piece about what he brings to the table purchase as is a wholly undervalued. stocks was eight years and deep blue new jersey cap property taxes, increase school spending cut charter schools through the true disaster super storm sandy. marie isn't room for others to get in? what exists for him? i said not sure elaine exists for chris christie to be the nominee breaks a very good debater we probably reverently took marco rubio on and destroyed him on the debate stage. he will bring that to this race. i do not think he will be a contender. but going back to the ron desantis question on electability, the problem of the social policies that vince was talking about, they may help and i way they don't happen to help the new hampshire he hasn't talked to his record on abortion in new hampshire they do not help in the general election.
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talk about the states of viable general election against joe biden, you look at states like pennsylvania, georgia, nevada. we look at the swing states he will need to win, though social policies are so extreme. look a lot of republicans are looking for a reason to come home. i think poster trump they are looking for candidate they feel comfortable with and they are testing out ron desantis. i am not sure his electability argument about winning will actually hold up when you look at some is really extreme policies he is promoting and the social issues cultural issues. >> all these things will end up the debate stage we have the artsy criteria for the august debate we have a little bit of this paper so i got that certain polling was 1% three national polls there's a combo state or national polls fundraising a minimum of 40000 unit donors was 280 donors. in 20 plus of those spread here's the debate pledge they've also got a sign on to that they won't participate rnc only rnc sanction debates nothing else that they must support the gop nominee and they have to part of
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the rnc datasharing. josh, with those being the criteria everyone started to fight about who is going to end up on stage, who does this help? seattle plate and there was donald trump for the hill committed to the debates in this criteria or not i will save me rnc perspective it's very smart and accomplishes several different things. one, they can control the debates which is obvious important but donor criteria does two things. what really does limit who can be on that stage are not going to get a bunch of people who have absolutely no chance of being nominated in their publican party. but too it starts to feel the need republicans have had in trailing low dollar donor base. you have to have donor acquisition the republican par party. event trump trump for the last two cycles because democrats have more low dollar donor center published spread by making this a criteria they are dragging the republic whole republican party back into looking better in the state. very smart thing they are doing for former governor asa hutchinson which is in. he doesn't like the pledges should take a third party
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candidate. keep them on the debate stage. and benefits on my donations the extreme rhetoric and scare tactics. ask josh. >> looked at think this when she is smaller so. i think one of the big wildcards is our going to get trump but whether were going to get christie who has made his campaign are going to be announcing next week sort of a test of its prosecutorial argument against donald trump and the republican primary for that's going to be a big factor. if christie said he's not going to support trump even in a general election has struggled this on these early polls, he does not make it on the debate stage we may not see the big moment that could happen otherwise. i think it's more likely will get a small debate stage in the first debate. shannon: and got ultimate duke it out penalty on the form of lot more to discuss with you. i got this it is official deep debt limit has a president signature now both sides are out there spinning the outcome bolts in the got the better half of the deal. cap next santos and both parties on what is in the bill for them.
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shannon: the president has officially signed the deal to set the debt limit that's a mobile for cap hotly contested pipe like from the left are calling a sucker punch from the going is not all democrats are upset becoming one who his particular throat democratic senator joe manchin west virginia. thanks and welcome back the box to send a pic. >> thank you, good to be with you. shannon: the top mountain valley pipeline it's been in challenges is not part of the deal. your fellow democrat senator tim kaine this is going to render his state of virginia involved
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in an outrageous here's what he says. >> my colleague and friend joe manchin things this is good for west virginia. but i think forcing virginians who do not want to give up their land to have to give up their land under imminent domain for something that will do them no good whatsoever, congress should not be forcing them to do that. shannon: he said this is going to hurt his constituents to have nothing but their land. so what is your message to those folks? >> well, first of all this process has been going on for eight years. we have shown because of the mentality have in our country we cannot get anything built. i'm in a timely basis. at the energy secure, energy independent and energy secure to be the superpower of the world. why would our carolina friends be forced to pay 10 times more than what west virginians pay during weather crisis? and you said about taking the land most of the land had been purchased years and years ago. purchase at fair market values.
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so this is ongoing as guenther eight review sleep not skipped anything. and on top of that, shannon, the federal commission has to make a dissemination there is a need for the product. the federal government under this administration, granholm said this is a national interest it is national interest because we need this energy in the market. 2 billion cubic feet a data set another project in america can do it. finally we are going to finish it. 94% is already built. 94%. that afternoon at 3 miles we only have 20 miles to finish. he'll be up and running by january of next year. shannon: there is debate who gets the credit for this getting done the wall street journal said this mentions that he voted for lester's inflation reduction act in return for a promise by president biden and leader schumer to pass permitting reform that would include expedited approval of the mountain valley pipeline he got
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nothing from his fellow democrats but now republicans have come to his rescue. fight liberty pipeline from green purgatory you are welcome senator is what they say. how much credit do you republicans forgiveness across the finish line? >> sa thank you absolutely a big thank you for kevin mccarthy and his leadership team. our republican colleagues in the senate, all of us. i've spearheaded the same from day one. i have taken the spheres to and all the bullets for the bottom line is people come to realize the administration and abides administration and realize energy security is needed in our country. we realize we had help our allies. this does that basically republicans i became a political football last year. we took it out of that arena and a good policy is family come through. and everyone as they say when you win and has many fathers. when you lose it is orphaned.
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it has been an orphan and i've been trying to take care of the orphan until would become a winner and i'm appreciative of everyone who worked together, think of aggressive public fathers and their families ask about this. congressman jim clyburn is one of president biden's biggest supporter said this about the deal coming together as a most incredible thing. do not know if he is that lucky or that skillful, whatever it is it is working. what you think it is lucky or skilled? >> let me just tell you this. you'll get both of the extremes this is i'm proud to see the process work. in the house you had a very contentious situation you had republicans have kevin mccarthy and his leadership team. they were able to navigate truly navigate through their own caucus and get something out and send it over to the senate that basically got the white house engaged. as far as if you look at who voted against it, both extreme left the progressive left and the right voted to default they voted against it.
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it was the democrats and republican for the middle so that moderate metal were we are going to run this country we cannot continue to let the extremes try to be the majority voice when it's going to be the majority voting in the middle that will make things happen. i was proud of how it happened i've been here 12 years, i've not seen that before by the house was able to maneuver hakeem jeffries and his team worked with kevin and his team to get almost a 50/50 split over to the senate were having republicans and democrats working together. we should all be proud of that. shannon: that's what we do things in washington now but neither side feels they got 50/50 the both could argue that way but it got to ask about th this. the note labels political work continues to fund an organizer trying to get in all 50 states they want to bend about to run a third-party ticket. your time said that as democrats very upset and worried it's going to reelect president tru trump. they said lit this at the top of list of the kansas centered joe manchin the third that
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considerate democrats up and headed to his party and complete support from president biden areas crucial to his reelection. i always ask you, you have not rule that off the table. it is a third-party run bill in the realm of possibilities? she hadn't no labels has been moving and pushing very hard in the center is mimicking commonsense decisions. people basically expect us to do our job and not but the political party ahead of the policy in our great country. that is what we have seen happening and there's more noise and more extremism coming from the far left and far right. given pushing this middle. if the middle is pushed but we just saw happen that was the middle pushing that is basically a movement were no labels has been proposing for a long time. ten, 11, 12 years. >> that sounds a lot like what joe manchin says too. but desire is what i believe i believe basically that is we make the decisions for you listen to the left and the right pretty make sure you leave
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nobody behind and you listen to the different persuasions they might have and concerns. but when it comes you got to make common sense. we do not even have risk management evaluation for united states financial situation. don't you think that basically every citizen, every home does that question of don't you think the banks are required to do that? we saw it happen those collapse there can't we put a team together for risk management identified risk before we come to the brinksmanship and almost came down to a default for. >> is there a risk management team assessing a third-party run for senator joe manchin with no labels or any other option? >> there's a risk management team you better plan b. because of plan eight shows we are going to the far reaches of both sides of far left and far right and the people do not want to go to the far left and far right they want to be governed from the middle, i think there is. better have the plan be
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available and ready to go because you are are saying it possibly could include joe manchin? >> i am not saying it's going to include or exclude. i am saying you better have plan b ready shannon. that is what is going to take for this country to remain the superpower of the world to give confidence to people around the world and reserve currency should be the u.s. dollar. the support for freedom and democracy should be the u.s. government and the u.s. defense department. we can do that. you cannot do from the extremes for. >> ruling out or not ruling it out? >> not ruling anything in not rule anything out progress et cetera if you do decide to announce plan b come back and do it on "fox news sunday" will see you soon. >> i'll come see you shannon okay. >> thank you, senator for joining me now from the other side of the out republican senator tom cotton of arkansas for senator macbeth boxes sunday for. >> thank you shannon. 360 party ruled out running for president this time you do not have to ask about that. [laughter] the debt deal comes together you
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clearly are worried about the defense many offered an amendment that did not go anywhere in the senate on that front of the "washington post" has this piece basically senate gop folks you exceeded your authority to argue about this. it says it's almost as of the senate gop had not been paying attention as negotiations began a couple weeks ago mccarthy did not have the same protect the pentagon to eat those as the vast majority of senate republicans. do you wish now senate gop have been more involved? >> note first so i went to commend kevin mccarthy for overcoming president biden's irresponsible stubborn position to be no negotiations at all we have divided government obviously have 10 negotiations and compromise because you have a republican house and a democratic senate. going to be speaker mccarthy and president biden driving those in other centers stayed in touch with how house negotiators begin our input on it. i'm pleased that somebody successes the reduction in spending, the permitting reforms i wish it would've gone a little further. do not think we need to stay at
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the post pandemic levels of spending a think we could easily go back to pre-pandemic levels of domestic spending. but i am deeply worried about the costs of defense in this legislation of three different kinds of cuts. first the cut this year prep tw. questions to be clarified that, there is more money their progress or is more money it's only 3% more we have inflation running five or 6%. so in reality you're going to have it actual cut. and then next year this my 1% increase i do not think joe biden's going to get a kitchen down to 1% going to have another cut and maybe worst of all slate sets up the 1% automatic spending cut across the board. the way it was written if congress does not do its work by september 30, domestic spending will actually go up he will not be a 1% cut from what the supposed domestic spending will go up that means chuck schumer has an incentive to follow off the appropriations process this fall because the democrats get more domestic spending when the
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pentagon takes a real cut at a time when dangers are gathering in china and ironic and rush i think it is very risky for our country to be opposing real cuts on the department of defense figure to want to try to get to some of this but i want to talk about this i talked to someone intimately involved in negotiations and said people are worried about defense spending they should go back and find the waste in the pentagon it is there for this headline from the equation says this spending reaches record highest pentagon fails its audit for the fifth time for they know what weakens our defense is a waste, fraud, redundancy issue and save demanding response to financial measurement congress the seat of the department of money year after year. where to be go? if we think there are millions possibly billions in wasted money within the pentagon they failed their audit five times in a row is there money there that could be helpful to these concerns? >> or is no question or opportunities to reformist pressure on the way it procures weapons systems.
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however if you're talking millions and billions and reform we are talking tens of billions of at a minimum of additional need to deter china, deterred iran, deter russia leasing this happened in the past and the trump era secretaries were able to find savings and then the savings were turned back into a procurement of more aircraft and ships and vehicles. but bob gates and the obama era but barack obama doublecross and took the money for savings for domestic parties there is no question the pentagon can find savings but not savings to match and offset the cuts in this bi bill. or the threats we face in countries like china, iran, russia. shannon: could you give democrats more domestic spending if there is a way to get more defense spending another authorization to ukraine or some other vehicle? but there's already been an awful lot of domestic spending increases for the last two years or sell $3 trillion in spending from the democrats but if you look at defense though, you mentioned absolute dollars are going up. that is true at face value. but i want to make two points
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the first is to biden's inflation second, when you compare we spent on our military to the size of our economy we are reaching record lows now it's falling to levels we have not seen since the clinton administration we took a misguided holiday from history thinking there be no more threats facing america. when you see the military declining as a proportion of our economy the same time you see threats rising from china and ironic and russia it poses a grave danger for a nation's future. shannon: all try to get a couple this quickly on china secretary of defense lloyd austin is in singapore chinese counterparts enough to meet and that they refuse that we had incursions with a jet chinese jet announce warships in the taiwan strait. some aggressive behavior there but there is talk this administration is looking at potentially lifting some tariffs and sing we have to do better with communication between these two countries how are we doing managing that relationship? >> vita ministration official
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should stop chasing after the chinese communist counterparts like lovestruck teenagers it's embarrassing and it is pathetic. in fact he projects a weakness to china and encourages them to do things like buzz our aircraft or come within a few hundred yards of our ships. encourages them to send spy balloons floating all across america. business terraces on the same message to get back to the bill we just voted on the single best way we can deter china and ironic and russia is to have military capable of deterring them. that is when the core lessons of history if you look at world war i and world war ii there a lot of misguided diplomatic decisions that led to those worse but fundamentally it was disarmament by countries like great britain and the united states that encourage german and ultimately aggression. shannon: quickly went to ask what the situation with north korea the public health minister has now been elected to the world health organization. president trump on the social
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media congratulating kim jong-un on that pretty couple of things what is it say about w.h.o. that north korea has a position on executive board? should any american including a former present congressionally kim jong-un for anything? looks world health organization like many international organizations often elevate and allow dictatorial regimes to make decisions for them on these panels. the song is a world worth organization is trying about places running the world intellectual property organizations or countries like sierra, or cuba, or libya, or north korea pick on the united nations human rights council as part of the problem with international organizations. i would not congressionally kim jong-un own or any other of these dictatorial regimes for the roles they play in these international organizations especially those like the world health organization have been harmful to the american interest over the last three years in the way they basically ran interference for investigation into the origins of the chinese coronavirus. shannon: hundred we appreciate
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your time much more to discuss a comeback. major development in student loans if you got one, pay attention lawmakers passed a bill blocking the presents went to wipe out hundreds of billions in student loan debt but he says he's going to be taught the supreme court is about to wait in part with it all means for your wallet plus art and file secretary for how candace can qualify for the first republican debate will bring back the sunday panel on student loans and who they think will make the cut for the first debate stage
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this is a republican senator eric schmitt when there's a party to block the president student loan forgiveness plan the fact that with our panel. just to recap revenue to put it up this is where student loans. you've got the pause that ends the pandemic prosperity debt ceiling plan that is gone. also you got the house and senate they have vetoed the loan forgiveness program the president is now saying it's going to be towed and now we wait for the supreme court that got decision to rule it on this too. so marie, he presents acted i don't think i can do this i'm going to try. i am from the court is going to tell, educated guess, maybe no. once we do not of the court will do but this is been in the courts hand for a while we are all awaiting that the white house will tell you that no president has done more for student loan repayment for these
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people who are struggling to pay their student loans then president biden for they will also tell you he is not beholding to the left. if you look at the debt ceiling negotiation he went to something c3 to really upset parts of the left and they will say we announced last november this was ending august the should not admit news to any of the people advocating for this but we were to make a deal for the greater good that caused some consternation on the left. they will type that's when they think he's a great general election cannot that's why they're confident hannah 2020 will sit the court does. at the end of the day a lot isn't their hands in terms of student loan repayment. shannon: i could come back and split the baby or do something else we do not know but they're fortified by people hundred $1.6 trillion in student loan debt. it affects a lot of folks. even the "washington post" felt a little cynical about the present doing this in making the announcement. >> house republicans are looking
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for an illegal biden bribery scandal. i am looking at when that is what this is. biden has been giving away he wants to give away taxpayer monies giving away money from truck drivers to log graduates to pay off their debts this is designed specifically to target chemical voters also point of all of this relieved to some benefit in the midterms notes caught up in the court system of the supreme court comes to its senses and said no the president cannot make up laws for his cutting checks to pay them to vote for him. it is crazy that we are even here. but now congress is even admitting that. >> the politics of this is pretty interesting. in the senate you had democrats up for reelection in tough states. jon tester, joe manson going with republicans that shows you where the politics of their network joe biden is joe biden has been supporting these extensions of the student loan payments. going to be in an election season you're going to see biden move a little to the middle this is been issues been more to do.
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he is been more generous with spending and these benefits to people who cannot pay their college debts but the politics looked very much like republicans and democrats on the same side they think that is beneficial to them. shannon: the conversation turned from helping people of all start of the last years some people really difficult time during the pandemic of josh, when it turns to taking money from truck drivers and giving it to people who went to harvard that seem to change the conversation. >> totally be also get the impression this is a political tool like geriatric democrats have used to say hello fellow kids i am with you. it's not policy to all offenses very good points it's not serious policy. it is a population that is more likely than not to have a higher income than the people we are having to pay the tab for. again all that changed the politics of it to your point, josh, follow -- i probably after
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the supreme court rightly finds us as a nonsense deal for the beginning. shannon: if you are confused at home if you are in pause of your payments during the pandemic that ends in august if you're waiting for the forgiveness part of this will wait to see if the supreme court decides. in the meantime will give you artificial intelligence for their number of people who are very scared there are hundreds of them including ai scientist he signed onto statements and mitigating the risk of extension for may i should be a global priority alongside other societal scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war. vince are talkative on the radio every day are they worried about this? >> think some people are worried about as he dropped displacement is worth being worried about my word of caution every time you essential think the government gets more powerful of people is her liberty. this to me again under the cover of this thing is going to destroy us and a lot of institutions are going to be dedicated to neuter its ability
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to get accurate information to the public. shannon: almost 4000 people who were laid off in may lost their jobs because of artificial intelligence is the first time ai has been listed in the monthly report from challenger christmas. talk about this piece that said check gdp took their jobs another walking dogs and fixing air conditions which are real jobs by the way. to become evident technology jobs change the job market changes every time we see throughout the history this is something we are concerned about. to vincent's point the idea of how to grapple with this particularly from a regulatory perspective i do know in 70 or 80-year-old senators trying to regulate something they definitely do not understand all of us are little tech savvy may understand a little bit. i think this is a changing workforce present biden's talk a lot about this for they created a number of jobs more jobs that
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any other president in a short amount of time. shannon: a lot of that we have to remind folks is rebounding from covid. >> a lot of that is fitted none of this is preordained. as a constantly job creation conversation companies, the private sector and government need to figure out how to work in the new world and it is a little scary. shannon: josh come up at the centers by a i senators? >> and one we are uncomfortable with the idea of the new ai future regulating his president biden. i'm pretty sure is not going understand how that thing works. but here is the deal to white-collar change. maybe the first time since industrial revolution that those jobs have had an impact three. shannon: art panel thank you very much to see you next week for cap next american veteran his tardiness on health battles and to help the wounded warriors caught in a bureaucratic nightmar
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♪ shannon: protecting and supporting our wounded warriors is a critical part of the mission, but there are recent complaints that service members are facing too much red tape when it comes to the decision over whether they can continue to serve on active duty. major will osten who disagreed with the decision about his medical choice founded an advocacy group calling for a wounded warriors' bill of rights. we sat down with him and congresswoman kathy mcmorris rogers who is hoping to get a bill through congress. this started as a perm battle to make sure -- personal battle that people who want to stay and have a chance to recuperate, they don't want to get kicked out. that happened to you. >> from 1775 until 2018, the military chain of command had authority over its wounded
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warriors and the medical separation process. in 2018 there was confusion, and so now there's a gap in authority, and wounded warriors have been mismanaged. so since veterans day planning team when i launched arc of justice, i've represented 75 clients, all pro bono. i believe there's probably hundreds more. >> this is really a simple fix to what may be a complex problem impacting our wounded warriors, but it would really make sure that it's the chain of command that's involved in these decisions and make sure that our wounded warriors have due process. shannon: this was institutedded to try to help people, but it sounds like for some people they're being stuck in this bureaucracy. >> that's exactly right. i've had a client who's literally a year away from retirement, has 11 children, boom, no retirement. this runs the gamut. we're losing our future war
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fighters and our middle management, which is where i come in. this is not a time to be mismanaging active duty wounded warriors. shannon: congressman, what do you think are the odds of getting this through the house, through the senate, getting something done? >> we've got some momentum built last congress k and we're just continuing to educate, to raise awareness as to the importance of addressing this issue for our wound warriors. you know, for so many who have served and they find themselves in this situation where they feel like they're being ushered out of the military, you know, we want them to feel like we're going to come alongside them and give them more time to recoup, to get healthy again or, you know, to continue to serve. shannon: okay. so what's the best case scenario here? >> that we're going to continue to build support, raise awareness, get more republicans, democrats in the house and the senate to come onboard with the legislation, with the wounded warriors' bill of rights and get it signed into law this year. shannon: how does that make you
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feel? this is something where the clock over for you. you fought this for yourself, and then you realized there were so many other people impacted, and you decided to pick up that mantel and fight the fight for them. >> yeah. so i took a vow. i'm going to get emotional here, but when i realized in 2019 that i was going to lose my fight, i went to my grandfather's grave at arlington. i just said, you know, grandpa, i will never stop fighting until the wounded warrior bill of rights is passed. shannon: and we will track it.. up next, a grammy-winning female artist with a powerful voice and a ground breaking new album. ♪ (dr. aaron king) if you have diabetes, getting on dexcom is the single most important thing you can do. it eliminates painful finger sticks, helps lower a1c, and it's covered by medicare. before using the dexcom g7, i was really frustrated. all of that finger pricking and my a1c was still stuck. my diabetes was out of control. (female announcer) dexcom g7 sends your glucose numbers
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