>> did you read your text? >> did you send me something? >> you want to read it out loud, guy? >> i'm not going to do that. >> be sure to tune in tonight when the "outnumbered" co-host harris falkner is on tonight. she's hosting all week long. here is "america reports." >> you didn't think the possible of russia taking over ukraine is in our interest? >> i don't think it's a top foreign policy. >> you would give them the donbas. >> i think we need to end the ukraine war on peaceful terms, make some major concessions to russia. >> sandra: vivek ramaswamy calling for a different approach to the war on ukraine. he says the u.s. should push to

an end to the conflict as soon as possible and focus on confronting china. >> john: self-proclaimed political outsider has announced radical policy ideas, as he tries to make inroads with republican voters. will it make him stand out, we will ask him coming up. >> sandra: as we await that, begin with the leaders of the house oversight committee about to speak in front of those microphones moments from now after finally getting their hands on the infamous fbi whistleblower complaint that allegedly describes a criminal scheme involving then vice president joe biden. hello, welcome, everyone, sandra smith as we kick off a new week here in new york. >> john: busy already, john roberts in washington. this is "america reports." james comer subpoenaed the document in question over a month ago that christopher wray has pushed to keep congress from

getting the actual document, arguing it could jeopardize the safety of the source. >> sandra: republicans have countered they are not interested in the identity, james comer is speaking. >> unclassified fbi generated record has not been disproven and is currently being used in an ongoing investigation. the confidential human source who provided information about then vice president biden being involved in a criminal bribery scheme is a trusted highly credible informant who has been used by the fbi for over ten years and has been paid over six figures. these are facts and no amount of spin and frankly lies from the white house or congressional democrats can change this information. at the briefing, the fbi again refused to hand over the unclassified record to the custody of the house oversight

committee. and we will now initiate contempt of congress hearings this thursday. given the severity and complexity of the allegations contained in this record, congress must investigate further. americans have lost trust in the fbi's ability to enforce the law impartially and demand answers, transparency and accountability. the investigation is not dead. this is only the beginning. it appears this investigation is part of an ongoing investigation which i assume is in delaware. the oversight committee will follow the facts and be transparent to the american people with our findings. i'll be happy to answer a couple questions. >> are we talking about -- congressman comer, one document or talking about several documents, and what could these

documents actually hold? could they end up showing more biden family business dealings with other countries? >> this document was dated, i think you all know this, from the subpoena, july 30, 2020. the claims made in the document are consistent with what we found and disclosed to you all in romania. it suggests a pattern of bribery where payments would be made through shell accounts and multiple banks, and there's a term for that, it's called money laundering, and that again is what the majority of the suspicious activity reports also said. so we feel that this accusation is consistent with a pattern that we are seeing frankly in other countries, too. yes. >> multiple documents? >> we believe there are multiple

documents. >> mr. chair, why do you need the document in hand? you just got a chance to view it, so why do you need it -- why move forward with contempt when the fbi says they are cooperating in good faith. >> well, let's just look at what i've read in a lot of the media accounts and that statements that ian sams has made from the white house, it's crazy, conspiracy theory, and i'm -- you are supposed to take my word or the fbi's word, i'm supposed to take the fbi's word they are investigating this or that, you know, you are going to write that the source is unverified, whatever. remember, the main reason they are not wanting to make this public is because they're concerned about the source. the highly credible, and i haven't read that in a lot of outlets, the highly credible source that's been with the bureau since the obama

administration. one more question. one more question. >> thank you very much, chairman comer. in addition to initiating con attempt proceedings, do you plan to or do you expect in the near future refer criminal charges to the doj despite the doj -- >> right now we are -- we want form 1023, we believe due to the fact that it is not classified, this is not a classified document, that this is an important part of our investigation and we want to have this document in hand. i'll do one more. >> what do you have to say about the ongoing investigation, did they say anything about the nature -- >> all i know, there is an ongoing investigation. they confirmed there's an ongoing investigation using this information. i assume that ongoing

investigation is in delaware. i don't know that. but i assume that. >> can you break down why that's your assumption or what information you have to support that? >> say it one more time. >> can you break down why that's your assumption or what you have to support that? >> i assume it's delaware, i'll put it like that. >> what country -- >> mr. chair, could you take notes today, were you able to take notes in there? >> i took notes on the unclassified portion but then there was a classified portion i did not -- >> follow-up briefings from the fbi on this, again -- >> the ball's in the fbi's court. thank you very much. >> sandra: so that is what we just heard from rep comer, obviously the chairman of the oversight committee having just viewed this document brought to the capitol by the fbi. those officials just met with the members of congress. the ranking member on that committee, jamie raskin is also expected to step up to the

microphone and speak moments from now. we'll get to that live as it begins. what you just heard there, john, trusted, highly credible informant, trusted source at the fbi. he did make news saying we will initiate contempt of congress hearings this thursday. now to raskin. >> comply with the oversight majority's demand for us to see this document we saw the document and the -- the fbi team went way beyond showing us the document to explain the historical and prosecutorial and legal context of the document. from that what i learned was that attorney general barr named scott brady, who was the u.s. attorney for western pennsylvania, to head up a group of prosecutors and fbi agents who would look into all of the

allegations related to ukraine as attorney general barr himself put it. we have to take everything coming from ukraine with a grain of salt. but after rudy giuliani surfaced these allegations, this group was appointed and they looked into the form 1023 and this group was created in june and spent the summer on it and as i understand it in august determined that there was no grounds to escalate from an initial assessment to a preliminary investigation. and the standard for moving from an assessment to a preliminary investigation in fbi prosecutorial protocol, whether there are facts given rise to

suspicious criminal activity. they apparently decided there was not and called an end to the investigation. now recall this is under attorney general william barr and his hand-picked prosecutor, mr. brady, who was a trump appointee, they were the ones who decided that there was no grounds further based on what this confidential human source reported from a conversation with another person. they decided there was no grounds to escalate this investigative prosecutorial chain. so if there is a complaint, the complaint is with attorney general william barr, the trump justice department and the team the trump administration appointed to look into it. but you know, i'm just surprised that my colleagues want to try to litigate this in public, much less hold the director of the federal bureau of investigation in contempt for complying with their request when there was a

whole process that was undertaken and that process came to its natural end, as i understand it. yes. >> so in your opinion, there was no criminal charges you have seen. from what you saw today. >> well, there were -- not only were there no criminal charges, there was no escalation of the fbi's investigation that was ordered by scott brady or by attorney general william barr. they all signed off on ending that investigation. so yeah, remember, what we are talking about here is a confidential human source reporting a conversation with someone else. so we are talking about secondhand hearsay and they did whatever investigative due diligence was called for in that assessment period and they found no reason to escalate it from an assessment to a so-called preliminary investigation and after that comes a full blown investigation. yes.

>> thank you very much. so, from what you're saying, is chairman comer -- [indiscernible] ongoing fbi investigation into the allegation that then vice president biden took a bribe from a foreign official? >> he said it was ongoing investigation. >> i -- well, i -- i'm not privy to what the chairman had to say. there has certainly been published reports there is an ongoing investigation in delaware by the u.s. attorney. i believe related to hunter biden. that's -- that's all that i know. >> any indication this document that you guys were briefed on today is part of an ongoing investigation? >> what i know is that the fbi, department of justice team under william barr and scott brady in the western district of pennsylvania terminated the investigation. they said there were no grounds for further investigative steps. so they ended that. now, in terms of another

investigation, you know, i can't speak to that. i have seen nothing about that, and other than published reports. >> this document in particular. is it part of an ongoing investigation? >> comer said it was part of an ongoing investigation, what he learned today. >> then i must have missed that. i had not heard it's part of an ongoing investigation. >> is it just the money paid to hunter biden, or what is the actual -- >> i can't go into the details of it. and remember, you know, i'm abstracting from the particulars of this case. we are talking about something pretty extraordinary which is an fbi document that is a report of a confidential human informant, and the fbi depends on these people in order to make their cases. and so obviously they are

categorically -- the i'd be dedeuced from facts if they have confided in the fbi about. so we want to be very careful about that and i would think that's not a partisan issue. that's something all of us should agree to. yes. >> the fbi officials briefing you today did confirm it is the document related to ukraine, or something that they were able to confirm to you today. the whole thing surrounding it is about that document. >> you know, i -- i'm not -- i don't believe that i'm permitted to get into the details of specifically what it is. but you know, all i will tell you is that there was a complete department of justice u.s. attorney and fbi team that was set up to investigate the allegations, you know, that

surfaced after rudy giuliani was making particular allegations. so you know, you can deduce from there. >> sources highly credible in someone that has been paid six figures with information that they have been able to provide the bureau over years. is that accurate in your impression as well? >> confidential human source the fbi works with credible who reported a conversation with someone else. that confidential human source said he had no way of knowing about the underlying veracity of the things that he was being told and so it's not the source's information, it's the information that he reported from a conversation with someone else that he was not able to verify or authenticate, which is often the case. and that's why we are talking about secondhand hearsay here, and so it's not the source -- the confidential human source

who is the origin of the particular claim. that confidential human source is the person who reported it that someone else was saying this and that's why this task force was created which examined it and then determined there was no reason to move up the chain of investigative procedures. >> john: all right, congressman jamie raskin, seemingly contradicting information coming from him than we heard from the congressman and the chairman of the oversight committee, james comer. raskin suggesting that this is an old document that was part of a preliminary investigation that didn't go anywhere. comer suggesting this thing is a bombshell. so -- >> sandra: the fact the fbi is refusing to hand over what they are saying is an unclassified document, even though they went into a scif at the capitol to view it, so they are not turning it over and that's why he said james comer, they are initiating the contempt of congress and

will start holding hearings on thursday, john. >> john: weird that you would insist you go to a scif which stands for sensitive compartmented information facility to view an unclassified document. but they are trying to keep it top secret here. andy mccarthy, he said/he said, who do you believe? >> well, it does sound like they were at two different briefings. i think the interesting questions are whether this is an ongoing investigation, raskin seemed to say that it wasn't. comer was emphatic that it was. from my point of view, if raskin is right, which i doubt on this for reasons i'll get to, i don't see what the reason is to keep a close hold on this and not to show more -- not to make more disclosure about the underlying information. because if the information was checked out and the investigation was closed, you

are not in a situation where they could credibly say if we tell you this you'll compromise an ongoing information. they are left, i suppose, saying if we tell you -- if we make public what the underlying what all this is, then people will be able to figure out who this informant is because the information comes from somebody who the informant was speaking to. and that would seem to me to be the one legitimate concern that the fbi has, but as far as the timeline goes, i'm very suspicious about it because what raskin is saying is they had a component of the fbi and the justice department that looked at this and decided not to raise it to a higher level of investigation, and thinking about the timeline of this, that seems to be about exactly the time when the fbi and later the intelligence community tried to put a spin on the biden family

information and on hunter biden laptop in particular that we shouldn't look into this anymore because it's just russian disinformation. and if that's the reason that they put the kabosh on this, if they did, which i'm skeptical about, that raises more questions than it answers. >> sandra: andy, to your point whether it's an open, ongoing investigation and your comment that comer was emphatic this is indeed an open investigation, he went as far as to say not only not the end, he said "this is only the beginning." on the biden family corruption scandal specifically and trying to pull up here, the fbi document suggests a pattern of bribery payments would be made through shell accounts and multiple banks. there's a term for that, comer said, it's called money laundering. what was your response when you heard that? >> this has been all along since comer did his release of information which was, i guess,

sandra, about two weeks ago, and that seemed to be a pile-on from the information that senators grassley and johnson had developed in the years prior to that. what we have seen is money laundering type investigations. money laundering type activity, if you were an investigator it would get your antenna up because what you are seeing is big number donations, or big number payments going from foreign sources to people who were connected to the bidens, and then those amounts get parsed up and they get sort of rooted to different biden family coffers in smaller amounts which are less obtrusive. and the thing with money laundering chairman comer did not mention, you are allowed to change the form of your assets, take them from one account and

another, and buy real estates or cars or whatever you want to do. if it's not criminal proceeds in the first place it's very peculiar activity to break up large amounts of money into small amounts of money as we are seeing here, particularly when you see big number dollar figures going to one side of the transaction and no apparent asset or commodity changing hands. that leads you to believe that what was being paid for was access to joe biden or joe biden's political influence. but the first step with money laundering always is to determine are the proceeds we are talking about, the proceeds of criminal activity in the first place? >> john: andy, a whole new level of intrigue added to this. the we'll keep following it to see what else comes out. maybe we'll get a chance to talk to the two members of congress individually at some point in the not too distant future. thank you, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> sandra: we have calls out to

them, perhaps reaction live at the white house moments from now as well, we are set to see a white house press briefing a short time from now, john kirby is set to join karine jean-pierre for questions at that briefing today. this after two incidents near taiwan are sparking fresh tensions between washington and beijing. a chinese warship and an american destroyer coming within 150 yards of each other in the taiwan strait just days after a chinese flighter jet flew in front of a u.s. aircraft over the south china sea. retired lieutenant general keith kellogg joining us now, former national security adviser to mike pence and fox news contributor. thank you for hanging on with us to the breaking news. to the incident over the weekend. what is your reaction to that and what message are you getting? >> thanks for having me. this issue is bigger than two warships nearly colliding or the jet coming very close to one of our reconnaissance aircraft or even the snub of general li, the

chinese secretary of defense at the shangri-la summit in singapore. china sees the united states as a declining power in the world. they see themselves ascending. and they talk power. and they look at us and say ok, we have a plan. we the chinese, and it's a 2049 plan and an economic plan, we don't have a plan. that's the biggest concern i have right now, sandra, there's no plan of how to confront the chinese. you can start with by declaring them what they really are, and they are not a competitor, france is a competitor, but they are an adversary. and then we need to come up with a plan much like we had at the end of world war ii when we came up with the truman doctrine, containment against the soviet union and we have not had a plan or played hard with the chinese, the chance of something happening that is going to be really serious, let's look at

taiwan, it's very real in the near future. a plan how to react to the chinese. not just militarily, but economically and diplomatically. and we talked about economic decoupling, start taking businesses that have gone to china and produced products in china and brought them back. we are not doing that, and we need to do that. if we don't do it, we'll have a major problem facing us i think in the very near term. >> remarkable to hear you say that, and that we are not, according to you, sending the stronger message and the video footage of how close a call that was is something for everyone to see on the screen there. this is defense secretary austin on the china threat and the consequences of war over taiwan. listen to this. >> we do not seek conflict or confrontation. but we will not flinch in the face of bullying or coercion.

but make no mistake, conflict in the taiwan strait would be devastating. >> sandra: based on what you just said and your reaction so far, my guess is you would say it's not a strong enough message? >> that's not a strong message at all. he actually, lloyd austin actually sounds like the secretary of state. he's the secretary of defense. he brings muscle to the diplomatic scene and he's not doing that. and i don't know what it's going to take unless an aircraft runs into an aircraft or ship collides with another ship in the taiwan straits. we have to come up with a plan to react to the chinese and it needs to be a muscular plan on the military side. we also need to look at a full part of government. what are we doing economically, diplomatically, look what happened with the wuhan virus, we have not reacted to that as well and it's a whole of government. i just don't see it, sandra. we just keep talking our way through it, using platitudes oh, we are going to be tough --

well, there has to be some action to it. chinese, much like the russians, react to strength and reaction. we talk in platitudes, they talk in power. there's a big difference. >> general, thank you. >> john: a new challenger could be emerging as a third party threat in the presidential race. west virginia democratic senator joe manchin saying he's not ruling anything in or out. we have david avella, and more here with us. so, i don't know which one of you to ask here. [laughter] it affects both parties. kevin, with you first, since he's still technically a democrat. >> today he is. >> john: why would he do this? >> used to say back in the day, most dangerous place was between you, a tv camera and chuck schumer.

and joe manchin loves getting on television in the scrum, talked about, seen as a negotiator and a key vote on a lot of issues because of his west virginia roots and he has to play both sides in order to be successful in the state which he has been for generations, a former governor and now senator. he has until january to decide what he's going to do in terms of running for office. i don't think the no labels bid helps anyone but donald trump and i don't think he's to hurt the president, good shot he'll be re-elected in the state. >> john: manchin did not tip his hand which way he's thinking about going, but suggest both parties are too extreme when he was on cbs over the weekend. >> you better have plan b. if plan a shows the far reaches of both sides, the far left and far right. >> john: that was not cbs at all, that was our fox.

shannon still works here, don't worry about that. he's saying look, i'm the middle ground here. >> having watched him for 30 years, institute post his senate career. >> take on robert bird. >> the comment most insightful, whatever i do i will win. and that suggests that he is trying to say i am really a conservative to west virginia voters because there is no path in a presidential race. >> john: he is not going to white sulfur springs, west virginia, owned by the greenbrier, governor jim justice. jim justice in some polls is up 22 points on manchin. is this joe manchin trying to say to west virginia i'm the guy you need, not that jim justice

cat who has been unbelievably popular as the governor and businessman in the state for decades upon decades, and does he look at this challenge and say i've never lost an election but this could be the first one? >> this is going to be the toughest race, john. to your point, justice has to clear the republican primary, too. incumbent house member, spend big, i know you are making faces, see what it shakes out. he's going to run to jim justice's right to a state trending more and more right wing. see if justice clears the primary first off and then i think joe manchin will run hard and try to keep the seat, the energy chair position in the democrats in 2024. >> john: i might say if jim justice loses the primary, i'll eat my hat. but -- fate might just make me do it. >> he got one of the best things you could want in the republican primary, indictment by the justice department that they are going to look at him. no better thing in a republican primary right now, and to manchin's comments of critiquing

the president, it's exactly what he needs to do in west virginia, biden lost by almost 50 points. >> john: listen to what manchin said on sunday. >> i think joe biden, that's his inherent, who he is. he's been pushed to the far left, and that far left is not basically where the country is. and the far right is not where the country is. >> john: again, i'm the guy in the middle. critical to biden to the agree he is is interesting. >> to david's point, he's got to do that in order to survive in west virginia. holding on to the one seat and democrats has been massacred up and down the line in terms of west virginia. but friends like that, who needs enemies. >> theodore roosevelt got the most votes as an independent candidate, electoral votes, 88. you need 270. the thing joe manchin can get to 270 is laughable. >> and joe manchin is no teddy

roosevelt. >> john: sandra. >> sandra: the prime suspect in the 2005 disappearance of natalee holloway awaiting extradition to the united states. he's been locked up in a peru prison for more than a decade with a second murder, but he is now set to face charges on the holloway case. charles, in birmingham, alabama, what do we know about the timeline? >> the timeline for joran vandersloot is up in the air, extradited at some point this week but the department of justice has not confirmed the estimation just yet. a spokesperson for the doj did, however, tell us "as a matter of long standing policy for safety and security concerns of the escorting law enforcement officers, we do not comment on

the timing of potential surrenders." over the weekend, peru did confirm the process of his temporary surrender was already in motion. prison officials moved van der sloot from a prison he was housed at in southern peru to a maximum security prison in the capital city of lima. they tell us van der sloot will be turned over to interpol, then hand him over to the fbi for temporary extradition to the u.s. to face extortion and wire fraud charges connected to the 2005 disappearance of alabama teenager natalee holloway in aruba. prosecutor allege he was part of a scheme where he took at least $25,000 from holloway's mother in exchange for holloway's whereabouts, which turned out to be false. defense attorney says the family shot to get some kind of justice. >> we are going to have an

arraignment, pretrial hearings, you are going to have all sorts of things that happen preceding a potential criminal jury trial. anything can happen. it does not preclude a plea deal down the line. >> holloway's body has never been found but van der sloot has long been the prime suspect in her disappearance and he's currently serving an unrelated 28-year sentence for murdering a 21-year-old woman in peru in 2010. sandra, we have checked with the court to see if there are any official proceedings scheduled just yet, and so far nothing. we'll keep you updated. >> sandra: charles watson in birmingham, thank you. >> john: simmering labor dispute threatening to boil over and shut down some of the largest shipping ports in the country. the port of long beach's largest terminal shutting down the morning shift days after union workers in oakland did not show

up at all. william is live at the port of los angeles. are the ports open there? >> yeah, john, they are. as you can see behind me, they are moving containers down, stacked up there, putting them on 18 wheelers and moving them out. the longshoreman's union did, however, as you mentioned, make a point this weekend effectively shutting down operations at select terminals across the west coast. what's next, however, is anyone's guess. the slowdown is a direct result of an impasse in the congress negotiations, some 22,000 long shoremen who work on 29 points along the west coast had been working without a contract for almost a year, and the talks with the shipping companies and terminals that pay them have reached an impasse over wages. so today all ports are open. there's been no strike that's been authorized but the union does say several "rank and file members took it upon themselves to voice displeasure and called

in sick and did not show up for work causing those disruptions." i just came from the international longshoreman's union, they have a blackout, but they said the shipping companies made money hand over fist during the pandemic, $500 billion profit in two years and time to pay the piper and they will not let them "thumb their nose at workers' pay requests." and no strike, no vote scheduled. however, there would be major ripple effects in the economy, inflation, and consumers. >> the uncertainty is really the concern here and the lack of planability. we need the ports to be operating and we need them to be operating at full capacity for supply chains to work. >> so obviously a majority of goods from china and asia do come to the west coast. exports of agricultural goods as well. during the pandemic we saw what

happened when container prices, to move the container went from two grand to 22,000. that impacted consumers, availability of goods and inflation. so the bottom line is right now, john, if there is a strike, it would cause tens of thousands of people to be unemployed, specifically truckers. what we saw this weekend with this slowdown or stoppage, if you will, was really the unions flexing their muscles saying we have some cards left in our hand. back to you. >> john: after what we saw during covid, the last thing we need is a port shutdown. william, as always, thank you. sandra. >> sandra: oil prices are on the rise again after saudi arabia unveiled the latest production cut. the move is likely sparking concern over at the white house where a briefing is about to happen, looking to keep gas prices low for the summer travel season. art laffer, art, the biggest question everybody has heading into summer is how much is it going to take to fill up the

tanks when they go to the beach or take them on a road trip, go on vacation. are gas prices going up? >> well, they are surely not going to go down. you have saudi arabia cutting back 1 million barrels a day, you've got the u.s. being anti-oil production, so our use of oil, our production of oil is way down from what it should be, and also you've got a slow economy, however, which means that oil per dollar of gdp is slowing down, so i don't think we are going to see anything radical this summer but i think prices are going to go up over the summer. that will happen. but they should come down, sandra, they should come down. we should be producing a lot more than we do. >> average is 3.55 a gallon, down a few cents from a week ago, but from a year ago, down more than 1.30. administration likes to tout the prices have come down. art, i also remind our viewers while they have come down recently, still over a dollar

higher than when the president took office. so are you seeing any signs that this is an administration that is capable of bringing those prices down where they should be? >> yeah, no, it's like that kid, sandra, who murdered his parents and begged for mercy from the court because he's an orphan. to say he brought the prices down from a year ago is ridiculous. if you look at the end of the trump administration from where we are now, he has not handled the oil industry well at all. there may be some times it was worse than it is now, and that's true. but no, you have to look at the u.s., we should be producing more and those prices should be coming down. i think by the summer, a big high time. probably be popped back up a little bit. but i don't expect a huge surge, we don't have an economy, sandra, that's going to use oil the way it should be using it at full employment and full growth. >> sandra: this is obviously going to be another big issue for the 2024 presidential campaigns, and already the

candidates are on the trail and are talking about it. this is nikki haley on energy independence. listen. >> two things they never wanted us to have at the united nations, they didn't want us to have a strong military and didn't want us to be energy independent. we have got to get energy independent again. we should never be dependent on any other country. >> sandra: our current energy policies in this country playing into the hands of our enemies. >> well, it's playing into everyone's hands. it is playing into our enemy's hands but it should be there just for the u.s. economy. any increase in the production of energy here in the u.s. is good. we don't -- and stopping imports is a good thing for us in every single way, including internationally as well as domestically. it keeps prices down and it keeps our reliance on foreign countries way down. >> correct me if i'm wrong, we

did reach a point we were producing what we were using and needing in this country for a short period of time to the point where we were exporters of oil. this is the reliance. >> yes, ma'am. >> sandra: exactly. i knew the answer to the question before i asked it but thought i would ask. reliance on oil, though, this shows the picture we are living through today. reliance on oil from the united states from opec members, 2022, 357 million barrels of crude, and from saudi arabia, i look live, oil at 72.56. we know historically that price can be much lower. quite final thought, art. >> yeah, it can be much lower and should be much lower and helpful for the u.s. economy and helpful on the global level and decontrol of oil would solve that problem very, very quickly. that's why we should be and i hope biden listens and does it.

>> sandra: interesting to see what happens in election year when everybody likes to see gas prices down. art, thanks so much. >> it's exciting, isn't it? >> sandra: thanks, art. >> john: sandra, los angeles wants to reduce traffic by taxing drivers for getting stuck in it. will congestion pricing go green or take more green out of people's pockets. plus this. >> i believe that schools are targets for children to be enlisted. you are going to struggle or get scooped up. >> sandra: what you are hearing more and more from parents in one american city who fear violent gangs are turning city schools into a pipeline to the grave. we are going to speak to jovani mat -- patterson who says school children are set up to fail and he's going to fight it in court.

>> troubling rise in violence involving teenagers and children. >> baltimore is on edge, a public school student is shot to death. >> high school student is dead after an off campus shooting. >> john: night after night, teen violence plaguing the baltimore city public school system. some parents say the children are too afraid to ride the bus to school, as bullying, shootings and gang activity are more and more common. the next guest characterizes it as a school to grave pipeline. jovani patterson is a baltimore father of two, he joins us now. jovani, the idea of a school to grave pipeline in baltimore, explain that. what do you mean by that? >> well, right now we have

education system in baltimore city that has been, you know, setting our youth up to fail when it comes to things like grade changing and false enrollment and social promotion. those type of things. but also what's happening is that you know, when a lot of our youth don't have, you know, proper opportunities to go, you know, after graduation, then what they do is just kind of fall victim to a life of crime or be recruited to a life of crime, that is the avenue to survive. >> john: we are hearing horror stories from baltimore, hearing it from parents like you. listen to a few examples. >> picking up my son, the other side of the building a shooting and a child was killed. a stabbing inside of the school, a gun dropped to the floor in the cafeteria, it was kicked across the floor and it hit the principal's foot. this is what's going on in baltimore city public schools. >> john: here are the

statistics. 19 students shot and killed in the past year, the youngest eight years old, up from 12 killed the previous year. you believe that youth violence and you sort of alluded to this a second ago is much a product of the educational system as it is the criminal justice system. so what do you do about it? >> well, first off, i think with everything it starts with home, you know. we need more parents back involved in their child's lives, making those decisions, being accountable to where your children are. but we also need an education system that enforces discipline. right now even in baltimore city, we have the office of suspension, so if a principal at a school needs to suspend or remove a child from the school, they have to contact headquarters in order to do so. so that means until they get a decision from headquarters, that student has to remain in school and often times among those other peers that they were threatening or harassing.

>> john: they've got to stay in school while they are in the process of being suspended. makes a lot of sense. >> absolutely. >> john: baltimore city has the lowest four year graduation right and highest dropout rate of any city or town in the state of maryland. graduation rate, 68.7%. dropout rate, 17.8%. at one high school, 77% of students read at elementary or kindergarten level. and you say, jovani, most of the kids perpetrating the violence are operating at a third grade level or below. >> that's correct. i mean, we have a school board ceo that makes presidential salary, her total compensation is upwards of $400,000 a year. and yet you know, we expect her to perform as a professional helping our students achieve, providing a safe learning environment for the students but none of that is happening and quite frankly, a lot of our

children just want to come home safe. their primary concern is not about education, primary concern is not i want to be a doctor or a lawyer, the primary concern in a lot of the schools and areas is i just want to get home safely. pt>> john: so is it an actual threat or the perception of a threat? take a look at the statistics. homicides and shootings in baltimore have declined in the last year, but among the youth they are going up, they are up 67% youth homicide, youth shootings up 55%. you've got two kids, one of whom is four, i guess probably in an early learners program, the other is 11, probably put him or her in grade five. are you afraid for your children sending them to a public school? do you send them to a public school? >> well, first, yeah, i don't send them to a public school because again, as a parent, as a concerned resident i want to see, you know, first the best for my children but by extension i want to see the best for all

of baltimore city kids and when you talked about the numbers a second ago, a little skewed, talking about numbers year over year. baltimore has been seeing 300, you know, homicides a year for the past eight years, that's 2400 lives, more than 2400 lives lost over the past eight years. but last year it was a record year, right. and so if we are talking about down from last year, we are on par with the year before that, and the year before that. >> john: yeah, i mean, there's no question it's a terrible situation there and even a small decline does, as you point out, sort of mask the true nature of the problem in the city. jovani, we will stay in touch with you. you are suing the school board and the school system to try to get some relief. we'll catch up with you later on and see how it's going. appreciate you coming on. >> thank you for having me, john. >> sandra: fox news alert now, as we approach the top of the new hour, we are waiting the start of that white house press briefing, expected to begin a few moments ago, a little

activity in the room but has not started yet. we are expecting to hear directly from john kirby about the close call between chinese and u.s. warships off the coast of taiwan talking to general kellogg earlier, john, he is looking for this administration to clearly take a firmer stance and more aggressive stance against china and its actions as we see this video coming in from the u.s. department of defense in the taiwan strait, this happened on saturday, the close call. general kellogg telling us a short time ago, this is much bigger than even this close call. we'll see what the white house has to say about that. >> john: when you consider that they are doing it with ships, doing it with jet fighters, and they are doing it because american consumers put all of those dollars into their coffers in order for them to build the new ships and aircraft. there is the one that passed in front of the american surveillance plane, very close. leaving the jet to fly through

its wake turbulence. we have to have some leverage if we just stop making our stuff in china, maybe they would not have all the money to do all this, sandra. >> sandra: and as soon as the briefing begins john kirby, we will get to the white house. stock of apple, all-time high as the world's most valuable company gets ready to reveal a mixed reality headset. susan lee will make sense of that, joining us from the fox business network. apple seems to own a lot of our lives now. are they going to be in it even more with the new headset? >> they are worth $3 trillion. apple is worth more than the entire u.k. stock market, which is the third largest in the world, or so far we have a new macbook air, software updates like air drop, etc. remember that steve jobs likes to do the one more thing unveil. so likely keep the headliner, mixed reality headset for probably the end in the next

hour and yes, apple's first new product launch in almost a decade since the apple watch. and it's not going to be cheap, sandra. likely costing $3,000, maybe not for everybody, at least not at the start. that's almost three times the price of meta or facebook quest headset as well, and not sell a whole lot of them, at least not in the first year. maybe 900,000, not a lot for apple given that they sell 200 million iphones each year, and generate $200 billion in sales each and every year. the new headset will not ship until closer to the holidays, maybe something to look for your young son, perhaps. apple does not always get everything ready, at least not at first. the high interest savings account, attracted a billion dollars in deposits in the first four days, but you know, a few users say they could not get their money out or not fast enough. now, can apple also get average folks like me and you to do the virtual world and maybe wear a

computer on our face. facebook can't even -- facebook changed their name to meta but did not get traction or change people's minds and also concerning in d.c. how big will they let the silicon valley giants get, and dominant seller in the u.s., they are into banking, health and internet satellites, so the actions from d.c., they block the $68 billion microsoft activision call of duty game maker, that deal is getting sued by -- >> sandra: how much is the company valued at now? >> $3 trillion. >> sandra: looking -- the price to earnings ratio to determine whether they are cheap or expensive, even at these record prices, it's not that expensive. it's at a 30. >> the average is 18, premium.

>> john: price ratio cheap by any measure. any minute now, national security spokesman john kirby will face questions over china's tactics against the u.s. military. live to the white house, looks more like a social event right now, and new at 2:00, a pair of crises unraveling for chicago's new mayor brandon johnson. stores fight shoplifting and taxpayers footing the bill for $51 million immigrant aid package. we'll ask a chicago resident who was arrested earlier this year for protesting migrant busses how the money really should be spent. plus, vivek ramaswamy, brian, dagen, bob cusack and more coming up as "america reports" rolls on. lower your monthly payments with the three c's: pay down your credit cards, pay off your car loan, consolidate your debt with a va home loan from from newday.

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