>> hello, everyone, this is "outnumbered," i'm emily compagno, here with my co-host kayleigh mcenany and fox business correspondent gerri willis, vice opinion of coin, cassie smedile and douglas murray. we begin with whistleblower shocking new claims about our country's research into ufo's.

last may congress held its first hearing on ufo's in over 50 years. intelligence experts testify about hundreds of encounters with unidentified objects and gave americans a glimpse into apparent run-ins with unidentified aircraft. air force veteran and high-ranking intelligence official is blowing the whistle on a program run by the u.s. government for decades. david grusc h claims the government is in possession of partial and fully in tact aircraft of nonhuman origin and several members of the program corroborated with the office of the inspector general. he says information about the deeply covert program has been withheld from congress and is speaking out about the secretive program. these are retrieving nonhuman

technical vehicles, spacecraft, if you will, nonhuman, exotic origin, vehicles that have landed or crashed. >> we have spacecraft from another species? >> we do. >> how many? >> quite a number. >> quite a number, kayleigh. what is fascinating about this, he's not the first one and this be being corroborated by other actors and the question remains, who will win this race, arms race to discover the origins of this and how we can recreate it. >> kayleigh: this is a crazy story. start by saying, i would have to have an extra terrestrial being to ever believe they exist, because i just don't. start there. i believe hyper sonic missiles could be the explanation. hyper sonic missiles have been

around since the 1940s. the "new york times" have said weather balloons, objects from foreign powers and foreign clutter splab a lot of sightings we've seen. the reason i say this story is crazy, the man you watched is highly credible, decorated veteran, not just him, multiple officials have reported on this to congress. it has been kept from congress for a long time. why are they hiding this from congress? why is the program secret? that raises questions, but until there is an alien here, on the other side. >> emily: healthy dose of sketicism, i appreciate that. anyone who listens to joe rogan, bob has been saying the exact same thing, his story was incredible and decades ago being tasked by the u.s. government

reverse engineering ufo hanging out in their hangar. they had multiple objects of nonhuman origin that americans were tasked with trying to recreate this and that is being said now by this whistleblower also. >> douglas: i'm with kayleigh, highly skeptical. everything can be explained by new military technology from this country or other countries, i've taken thattin loo. there is always interest in it. there is always unexplained issues in this area. my worry in part, everybody time, even somebody credible, speak about it, they are regarded as a whack-job, crazy, you know. it is fastest subject to get into and make yourself look mad. why are things being kept from congress? you may say because congress leaks like a sieve, you wouldn't share with congress. >> it shouldn't be a secret,

that is my point. >> me, three, on this, i'm skeptical. i went to a major source to find out the reality of this, abby hornacek, hosts "alien abductions" and she says the government is not going to share this information, they think it is national security. there is no incentive to share this information. this will fall or rise on the credibility of this source. is he proven to be telling the truth? is this a real story? can it be corroborated? only one of the cases the department of defense was able to look into, that were filed by military pilots, pretty credible source, able to be corroborated, only 1 out of 144. sit back and take that in. i have big questions, i am happy to be proven wrong. i would love for doj or nasa to

come out with new information. >> kayleigh: i don't want to be proven wrong about aliens. >> emily: i'm sitting outside with tin foil hat. i love this stuff. i've been reading books for years. it would be laughable to assume we know everything, everything pubbish welled and accessible by the american people and secondly, against the landscape, not a vacuum, we established national reconnaissance office in addition to area 51 and subset f, i think the name is. there are so many more. this is not out of nowhere, we have quite frankly, robust structured what we know about existence within the government of exploring and/or processing this. >> when i saw this upon toic, thank god we have the extra terrestrial expert on the couch, i know this is an issue for you. i'm in the middle.

i do not believe we are alone in the universe, i don't know this is the next independence day 3 coming at us. i just learned congress rolled back or increased protection for whistleblowers in this area. things behind the firewall, caught in bureaucracy, we are seeing whistleblowers feel free to come to congress like last year and just learning about all that's been looked into over decades and more information is better, but i'm hoping our visitors are friendly. >> douglas: they are obviously smart, i hope they are friendly, as well. >> kayleigh: or we'll be top three target. >> douglas: it couldn't be we could be dumber than we are in society. maybe they are not brilliant >> emily: this whistleblower,

what are your thoughts on were this to be true, we are in a race with definitely enemy nations like china to uncover the root of this, that could be used for military benefit, that should be a frightening thought regardless whether you believe in little green men. what say you, kayleigh? >> kayleigh: fact there are unidentified aircraft is trouble some, whatever it is, extra terrestrial or china or russia, who is putting the unidentified objects above us in u.s. airspace and beyond. the whistleblower says crafts of nonhuman origin. how does he know that? it could be china that has more advanced technology than us, he came to that by the morphology of agents. maybe you know, emily, how do you know they are inhuman? >> emily: your homework, listen

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>> emily: democrats leaders in blue states looking for ways to handle the influx of migrants from the southern border,

especially those from california and new york. two charter planes have touched down in california's capital of sacramento and the latest arrived yesterday morning carrying 20 migrants. despite sacramento designation as sanctuary city, the flights carrying 36 migrants seemed to be unwelcomed. california democratic governor gavin newsom is not happy, accusing florida governor ron desantis of sending the unexpected migrant flights to the golden state and threatening to charge desantis with kidnapping. you can't make this up. newsom tweeted, ron desantis, this is not martha's vineyard, kidnapping charge? and linked independental code on kidnapping. new york city struggling with migrant crisis of its own and mayor eric adams wants to pay everyday new yorkers to house city migrants. just watch.

>> it is my vision to take next step going to faith-based locales and moving to private residents. there are residents suffering because of economic challenges, they have spare rooms, locales. it is cheaper and good investment to go to a family and assist them instead of placing people in settings or emergency hotels. closer we bring asylum seekers, easier it will be to transition into society. >> kayleigh: easier, probably not safer. cassie, start with california. state officials say it appears the flights were organized by florida. both flights had migrants from texas, they are saying governor

desantis is responsible because it was a contractor with ties to florida and some documents migrants were carrying. it is unclear whether desantis had involvement. i thought they were a sanctuary state. watch their great governor say just that. now more than ever we californians know how much a house matters and children. so many of our neighbors have lost theirs. together, let us build a house stronger than coming stores yet open to the world, a house that provides shelter to all who need it and sanctuary to all who seek it. >> kayleigh: he should be ready, sanctuary to all who seek it. i have a flight load from ron desantis or abbott, many flooding the border seeking sanctuary. you offered it to them, we are assisting in the effort.

gavin newsom is obsessed with ron desantis politically and with himself. we don't know where the flights originated, another day to put ron desantis in a tweet, let's do it. >> kayleigh: kidnapping charges patently absurd. >> emily: laughable he linked the charges, it would be federal, first of all. what kills me, real americans are being affected everyday by this. for example, just to conflate the two topics, new york mayor is saying, put in front of everyday new yorkers, it is easier for them to absorb and deal with and governor newsom is bringing governor desantis into it. the point is, we already see it, we have absorbed it, all the border towns and states comprise all 50 states because of fentanyl and stretched thin resources and former congresswoman whose constituent

told you she had to take out a loan for school supplies because her money was going toward the migrants. the cost is astronomical and yet that governor newsom is playing foot see with his potential political future and with governor desantis who is trying to get things done. why not divert attention to the federal government, this president, this commander-in-chief that has created the poorest border, every single american, including californians governor newsom claims to protect. >> kayleigh: mayor adams has an idea to put migrants in private homes. any spare rooms at gracy mansion? >> douglas: fast way to solve this, every single person, democrat or anything else, who argued for sanctuary cities in

america should be awarded 10 illegal migrants for their own house. award everybody 10 illegal migrants, if you were on the record saying, they can come here, they can come to your house, you house them first. why should taxpayer pay for hotels in new york? why have veterans upstate in new york to make way for illegal migrants. >> emily: we learned that story has been debunked, have to get that out. >> douglas: kept having cases people and up the road here, a standoff. >> i was there and talked to people who live in the community and they do not want these migrants. this idea that mayor adams has to put them all over the new york area, these people feel they are being big footed and told what to do and they are not accepting it, they are not happy, we would stand in front

of this hotel and cars would yell, not here, go home. it was a strong reaction. getting back to the economics of this, you started talking about. look, make a comparison with what they want to pay to house migrants in individual people's homes, maybe 125, that is what they are giving to churches. only pay $40 a night to put foster kids into homes. where is your priority? >> kayleigh: great point. i have heart and compassion for kids crossing the border, most are single adult men. when you try to put migrants in schools, this is safety concern. what happens when ms-13 member gets into a home? coming up, gop candidates say kamala harris is their challenger inure 22, as white house tries to rehab her image, good luck. even democrats think it may be too late.

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oh, whoa, i was actually just thinking i would take a nap. pretty tired. okay. ♪ >> kayleigh: good country music today, questions and concerns about president biden's age and stamina continue to mount and now nikki haley suggesting she and the rest of the gop field may not be running against president biden so much as running against vice president harris. >> let's be clear, if they think it is a vote for president biden, that is a vote for president harris. we are running against kamala harris, make no bones about it. "new york times" know it, every liberal knows kamala harris will end up being president of the united states if joe biden wins

this election. >> kayleigh: jacqui heinrich pressed karine jean-pierre about the communities and got this nonanswer from the president's spokesperson. >> she said a vote for president biden is a vote for vice president kamala harris. what do you say to anyone who is questioning whether the president would survive a full four-year term? >> let me just say this. not going to comment on the 2024, she is a candidate, so want to be careful here and we do follow the hatch ax, be mindful here. this is a president, if you look at his track record, and i'm saying more broadly, look at what he's been able to do. he's been able to push forward and get done historic pieces of legislation. he has gotten more done than any other president. >> kayleigh: douglas, asking

about the president survival has nothing to do with the hatch act, barring a candidate from the white house podium. that left so much room for speculation, that was a failure response. never allow speculation about the president's physical notes ychl did she do that? >> douglas: the democrats think that joe biden is stripling of candidate. we saw dianne feinstein wheeled into the senate at the age of 89. perhaps they think no reason an 80 year old can't run again issue his best years are in front of him. this party has been locked into generational grip. there is no reason why people in their 80s can do an awful lot of things. why has this generation had a grip on the party. why can they not pass the ball down a generation, it seems?

the answer, if you go generation down from biden and dianne feinstein, you get the very radical younger generation. we just heard from next generation newsom. go down from there and it is radical. this generation has party in its grips, beneath them, it is hell. >> kayleigh: their point, gerri, oldest president in history, we can ask about your vp who has 37% approval rating. >> one banana peel away from being the president and leader of the free world. this is a scary thing. talk about this next generation being radical, doug, i would say that look, it is not just radical, their ideas in no way match up with what people want to do in this country. so far from what people want. her ratings are in the toilet,

there is no way this can go forward. >> kayleigh: i was reading a piece about kamala, for more than two years, republicans have been trying to paint kamala as incompetent. >> emily: republicans have been singing how she is incompetent and demonstrating her incompetent and lack of leadership. what was interesting, making point democrats scrambling to find narrative for her. blame criticism by republicans on race and gender nonsensically and went on to say after president biden declared the presidency, there was a meeting about strategy and democratic strategists were saying, let's get her in events where she is comfortable and can be herself. get her in front of voters we know love her, that will be

successful. >> like four. >> emily: backtrack that with the polling and disastrous polling, swing voters loathe her. peaked at 35% approval. what they should do is tell those swing voters or anyone, i'll listen, why she's doing a good job or what she has accomplished, if anything. we are all waiting, not with breath held, we will all die, scrambling to shift that narrative to make anything fit. >> kayleigh: she's going to be in the cabinet meeting with the president and led an ai meeting recently, they are boostering herself up. >> she couldn't get out of iowa all by herself, failure to launch since day one, it is just not happening. they are concerned and keep ignoring polls on themselves, also just yesterday "washington

post" released robert f. kennedy, 44% of voters are open to voting for him. they have a real problem. he's the apparent alternative, democrats will take anything at this point. they are afraid of the radical below them and afraid to lose their grip. most have full retirement, go enjoy, go retire, nothing that says you don't have a lot of years ahead of you, you don't need to be running the free world. >> kayleigh: strategy is to ignore robert f. kennedy, good luck, rising in the polls. these vending machines are not filled with snack food or soda, no issue freeze items for drug users, crack pipes, and even lip balm. when and where they are popping up next. newday to pay off credit card debt that's been piling up. many were shocked to learn they've been paying 22% on their credit card balances. and if payments were late, as much as 30%.

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>> emily: cities across the country grapple with strategies to crack down on drug overdoses, new york city is rolling out vending machines catering with drug users with items like narcan, over the counter nasal spray that can reverse overdose, the machine offer crack pipes, first aid kits and lip balm. the machines cost $11,000 and will be placed in drug infested neighborhoods to save lives. >> this is a real practical step in our fight against the overdose crisis. this vending machine represents exactly that. we need to empower people, communities, our neighbors with everything and anything they need when they need it on demand to save a life, to save their own life, to use safely and to

be safe. >> emily: gerri, so many issues with this, it is treating the symptom, not the problem, expex exploitative use of taxpayer funds and what about the funds that have equipped narcan everywhere else and why not treat source of drug through law and order or stymie flow across the border. why do i have to pay a millionth time for something that will not be treated or finished or fixed in any way by this hair-brained idea. classic government throwing money at a problem. i don't know about you or our audience, everybody has been touched by drug addiction. to give the drug addict the crack pipe makes, it is chilling, i'm getting shivers

thinking about this. if you have anybody that has been through this, it makes no sense, it defies logic. we have tried this in american cities, in boston, san francisco, this is loser mentality. these people need help, they don't need to be given tools to create their own demise. >> douglas, why are we giving the tools, the access? shouldn't we restrain it? kids can access this, i understand having narcan from every water faucet, fine, the c crack pipe and other things, why not augmentation? >> douglas: you see scenes in america these days, i can't think of another first world country like what you see in philadelphia, the new drug causing terrible, terrible in philadelphia.

you don't see in most first world cities sights you see in every american city. every time the people are pro-legalization, make it easier to get hold of the drugs or more acceptable to get ahold of the drugs or normalize taking of the drug, such as vending machine with crack pipes suggest we are in there a bit. something needs to be radically rethought in this country about this issue. young people's lives are being destroyed by getting access to drugs which are mind alteringly strong, laced with other substances like fentanyl and you can say we need to make this safer. no, there is no way to make that safer. the only safe way is to make sure young people and others don't get anywhere near the drugs. >> kayleigh: assume responsibility by the government to protect citizens, protect

borders and stop coddling people who need help and give firm discipline in the way that enables them to end the addiction. they do not care whether we call them addict or person with an addiction, that is something taxpayer dollars have gone toward, restructuring the language. >> kayleigh: you have an addict, give them tools to do drugs. they tried this in the tenderloin district in san francisco, i believe. they referred 18 people out of 23,000. these things don't work. i read in the post, new drug called zombie drug puts you into a cata tonic state that causes you to eat flesh off people, this is scary stuff. we are going to enable gateway drugs. >> emily: cassie, a few correspondents have shown to

philadelphia showing the decomposing flesh, ramification that can be fatal. it is destructive entire cities and lives. let's help it. >> it is normalizing. there was l.a. times quote from organizer of skid row, d dr. kavorkian, this is medical assisted suicide. imagine if we spent millions on recruiting people to be social workers and go in and help with rehab, this is mental disorder. i live on capitol hill, supposed to be jewel and the playground my daughter goes, the bus stop around it is ambulances seeing to overdoses, there are parts of the playground that has needles, this is washington, d.c., overlords of government. imagine the other factions of

our country and it's being normalized. just keep walking. that is not okay either and the economic impact of that, no-go zones downtown and city, shopping districts. you see crime that comes from that and looting, that is related and won't connect dots. >> skid row has been there forever and i went with dr. drew couple years ago and what was appalling, it's been festering for decades, festering, why would we augment it and why doesn't the government see throwing more money to the problem doesn't help clearly. these people are addicted and eating their own -- >> douglas: campaign last year in new york, don't feel shame if you are a heroin user, use safely. we're not far away from heroin pride. shame is not the main problem in this. the main problem is the get people off drugs and make sure

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top of the hour for "america's newsroom," see you then. >> kayleigh: 79 years since ally forces stormed normandy. turned world war ii against nazi germany and never forget the sacrifice of the brave heroes. new op ed asked the question, has society betrayed the d-day generation? the men who stormed ashore on that day hardly recognize the world that we have created and would be amazed and perhaps ashamed of the mess made of the sacrifice. those who survived d-day would have had no difficulty in defining a woman, they would have been proud about their country and its past. they would have seen nothing strange or perverse in creative

impand own selfish desire as matter of course. nigel jones has a great point, allied forces died on d-day alone. >> emily: i lost my great uncle joe lorenz, he died fighting in france. one world war later, his sister, who was a nurse fighting on the front line was able to visit his grave. her mom came on the 1930s gold star mom pilgrimage that was a short-lived program by the u.s. government to bring mothers and siblings of the sons they had lost in world war ii over. it is such an incredible chapter of history and i had honor of exploring it with weapons of war, the sherman tank, the role it played, how women almost exclusively built it on the homefront while men were fighting war in europe. every american in every war is

utilized and especially in world war ii, from the homefront to the battle front, lives were lost and dedicated and everywhere was unified around the common goal of absolute democracy of independence of good versus evil, of standing for the flag and knowing what it represents and what ultimate sacrifice represents and i fear more than anything, not that lives have been lost or they fought in vain, that was never a question, but what i fear is that americans nowadays don't get it. >> kayleigh: nigel jones writing from the point of view from someone in britain, he goes on to say britain of the 1950s we look down on for being boring had virtue of cohesion and division, people may have known their place, but they did have somewhere to belong and feel at home rather than derassenated

wilderness we inhabit today. rather than uphold and defend values, we have betrayed them. i think that is relevant to the united states issue as well. >> douglas: i think relevant to all the countries. however, add one thing, it is quite easy to say, this generation couldn't do this, we're less than this. they didn't know they could do it before put to the test. my university in oxford, 1934, students voted on the notion this house would not fight for king and country and it was passed overwhelmingly. in 1934, all of the newspaper opinion pages were filled with people saying cowardly oxford students voted like that because they had seen elder siblings and parents lost in the war. those people were the people six years later who were fighting

for their country, fighting for their queen and the flag. they were exactly the same people. my point is, we ask about generation, what it is like, you don't know until you are tested and truth is, in america and in britain, this generation hasn't been tested nor was the previous one. >> cassie: i think the post 9/11 gi's did step up, when you are tested, you will do it, all my grandparents are buried at arlington national cemetery and the proudest legacy our family has is military service and their service. if you go to arlington national cemetery, you believe people will step up when the time is right. what is happening in woke culture and recruitment, troubling and concerning. >> i want to say, emily and cassie, i want to come hug you for what you said, just

beautiful, so close and you have to defend this country. if we don't defend it, who will? no one. stand up for what we are, we know who we are and right wingism, this nationalism is not patriotism, you can be a patriot, it makes sense. >> kayleigh: back to faith and patriotism makes our country great. more "outnumbered" in a moment.

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♪♪ >> emily: last but not least, iphone users are in for one big upgrade. apple announced the newest upgrade will include a new a.i. powered auto correct. i'm so happy about this, it's funny to me. learn your texting habits and will not mess with words you intentionally type in, that includes a commonly used very naughty word that we can't say

here on the air. kayleigh, we were just talking about that iphone has auto corrected both of us, our nonnaughty words to make them sort of naughty and inappropriate. so i feel the moral high ground they were on, i guess it's about ducking time they get off the moral high ground and admit it. >> kayleigh: i was not going to share -- i was going to key west in college and trying to touch someone i love the smell of the beach, and it changed to i love the smell of viagra. auto correct is real. >> completely crazy, i hate auto correct. always gets it wrong. i have no confidence a.i. is going to make it any better. >> i think it has gotten worse. i used to be better and now i'm like what the heck, i think it's the opposite direction and i

really say heck. trying to text something to the boss and now the wrong word. >> emily: apple never understands the language around broadcasting, like producers, and if they would just let us be -- >> i remember when texting started my mother thought that lol stood for lots of love and she texted her best friend and said i'm sorry to hear about the death of your dog, lol. and i said no, no, it does not mean that. >> kayleigh: my dad does that, too. lots of laughs, that's not what it means. >> always hard to keep up with technology, maybe it's trying to keep up with us. >> and going a bad job. >> kayleigh: one guy said auto correct is ruining my life. >> emily: better for us all or worse, because we are now going to freely -- >> whole new like verbiage to

keep up with, i don't know if it's going to. i think everything sounds a little better with a british accent, so -- >> i've never texted a naughty word in my life, so -- >> good, keep it that way. >> emily: be sure to tune in tonight when our "outnumbered" co-host is back in the anchor chair for fox news tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. hosting all week long. don't forget to dvr the show, and now here is "america reports." >> john: emily, thank you. start off with a fox news alert, last-minute reversal could block the long sought extradition in the prime suspect of the 2005 disappearance of natalee holloway, they say he made a mistake and may not be transferred. >> gillian: what's behind his change of mind and will it stop the holloway family in the