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keep up with, i don't know if it's going to. i think everything sounds a little better with a british accent, so -- >> i've never texted a naughty word in my life, so -- >> good, keep it that way. >> emily: be sure to tune in tonight when our "outnumbered" co-host is back in the anchor chair for fox news tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. hosting all week long. don't forget to dvr the show, and now here is "america reports." >> john: emily, thank you. start off with a fox news alert, last-minute reversal could block the long sought extradition in the prime suspect of the 2005 disappearance of natalee holloway, they say he made a mistake and may not be transferred. >> gillian: what's behind his change of mind and will it stop the holloway family in the
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pursuit of justice. >> day one of the administration, president biden signalled to the world through words and actions that our borders are open. and so they were. >> hope we can all commend the biden-harris administration for their actions to prevent a serious disorder at the border following the expiration of title 42. >> we know the border's in trouble, we know we have a problem with fentanyl, got-aways, drugs. >> sad reality is my colleagues on the majority have no interest in any meaningful immigration reform. >> john: we begin this tuesday with lawmakers sparring over the biden administration handling of the migrant surge at the southern border and allegations that the white house set up border patrol to fail. gillian, good afternoon. >> gillian: great to be with you, john. gillian turner in for sandra today. this is "america reports." subhouse committee is hearing testimony from the dhs inspector
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general, tasked with staffing and morale challenges with border agents over the last couple of years. >> john: accusing the white house ill equipped to handle the end of title 42. but the democrats attacked the i.g.s reputation. aishah hasnie is live on capitol hill with the latest. seemed almost like a tale of two hearings. >> it was a wild couple of hours, adjourned a few minutes ago, and trying to talk about staffing issues at the border, and morale issues at the border, and democrats were telling him to get his own house in order. first time kafari testified on capitol hill since a big shake-up at dhs, tate johnson is retiring at the end of june and raul ortiz announced he is leaving as well. now, all while the border crisis continues to stress cities coast to coast, in fact this week,
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john, california governor gavin newsom appeared to threaten florida governor ron desantis with kidnapping charges over migrants flown into sacramento, and new york city mayor eric adams is floating the idea of paying residents in new york to house the tens of thousands of migrants pouring into the five boroughs there. here is what he told lawmakers about morale at the border. >> we heard from more than 9,000 law enforcement personnel, represents 16% of the 57,000 who we surveyed. many recipients felt the current staffing has negatively impacted their health and morale. >> democrats on the other hand as you mentioned turning the tables on kafari, who is under investigation for the office's handling of january 6th-related text messages and also allegations of misconduct within the oig's office. >> would you agree that sexual
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harassment or misconduct are one factor that could impact morale? >> it could be a factor, certainly. >> thank you, yet it was not considered in that report. >> so john, we'll see what happens at this next hearing set to begin in just about an hour. this is a house homeland security subcommittee hearing and taking a look at whether or not the administration was prepared adequately enough before title 42 expired. i'm sure it's going to be just as exciting. >> john: i'm sure it will and we'll hear back from you later this afternoon. gillian. >> gillian: well, a major announcement in the world of golf. pga tour will merge with saudi-backed liv golf. william, what does it mean for fans and players? >> well, for fans the deal r rae -- reunites the best players
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in the world, and liv merger with the pga a single golf entity to make the sport more popular and profitable worldwide. >> this is an opportunity we've never had before and to have this capital at this point in time with the strength of this game, there's just -- there's so much opportunity. >> we will be investing in the growth of the game of golf and doing many new things that i think will have a better engagement from the players, the fans, the broadcasters, the sponsors, everyone else. >> created a few years ago, liv is financed by the saudi government, lured top players like phil mickelson who if he would the pga minimized his promotional earning potential. there was competition but also hostility among the players as pros resented and disparaged
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those who left. so it ends the rivalry and creates a new for profit entity to grow the game. unresolved, however, how will some players feel about playing for a company financed by the saudi government, which critics consider among the world's most repressive and discriminatory towards gays, women and political opponents, and that's not a small thing considering some of the pga players refused to join liv because of the human rights record. right now it's an agreement between the two groups, memorandum of understanding, the deal is to be finalized in a matter of weeks. >> gillian: and some famous pro golfers have spoken out loudly against liv. >> john: can i just jump in here? >> gillian: please, i've been dying to know what you think the segment. >> john: when brooks koepka won
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the championship, i thought they would merge. they could not have the pro win a big event like that. >> gillian: endless finances behind it as well. >> john: i knew it was going to happen. bret baier will join us the next hour. >> gillian: find out how good he is. >> john: look some stuff up that you can ask him. >> gillian: maybe you can give me some hints. >> john: briefing with christopher wray, this after oversight committee leaders got a chance to see the whistleblower document accusing president biden of being involved in a bribery scheme during his time as have said. chairman james comer plans to hold wray in contempt of congress and will begin the process to do so later this week. the house oversight committee chairman james comer joins us now. you are going to begin this on thursday.
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do you expect this will succeed? >> i think so. i think that the fbi has to recognize the fact that we had checks and balances in our system of government. the oversight committee is tasked with overseeing the federal government to try to prevent waste, fraud, misuse in the government. that's what we do. the fbi is operating under the premise that they're immune to oversight. so we have proven that we are conducting a very credible investigation of biden family wrongdoing and we have produced evidence in the form of bank records. we have produced evidence in the form of identifying all these shell companies the biden family was using to launder money. now the fbi has in its possession a form they have had arguably between 3 and 7 years that would identify a similar bribery scheme in another country. so we feel like this is the type of information that we need to have in our possession as we continue our meaningful
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productive oversight. >> john: what the fbi says in a statement, they have demonstrated the commitment to accommodate the committee's request by including it in a reading room in the capitol. safeguard for congressional request and court proceedings to protect the physical safety of sources and integrity of the escalations. the contempt vote is unwarranted. and to go on here, your colleague said the fbi informant in question on the form could be in danger, she said, just left a meeting for house oversight, the fbi is afraid their informant will be killed if unmasked based on the info he has brought forward about the biden family. so, in this case is it prudent to keep this information to a very small group or should it be made public and if it should be
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kept to a smaller group, what would be the purpose then of the contempt charge? >> well, let's just go back a few weeks, when i requested this form, democrat leaders and even the white house spokesman ian sams tried to imply there was no whistleblower, there was no form, this was another conspiracy theory. so they denied the existence of the form until the day of the subpoena going into effect and now they admit that they have the form, i've read the form, the form that they provided me was heavily redacted with specific dates and specific locations that we need to have in our investigation. now, the fbi says it's part of an ongoing investigation. this happened seven years ago. how long are they going to investigate this? i feel the house oversight committee, we are doing the job the fbi should have done a long time ago. so this document is important. i've already proven that we are able to find these shell companies and these bank
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accounts that the president's son and brother were using. now we have evidence of a similar scheme involving the president himself and we need this evidence. just for the fbi to say well, we are using it in an ongoing investigation, they tried to imply a few weeks ago it didn't exist and the white house tried to imply that it was either rudy giuliani or somebody else as the human informant and the fbi is saying this is a valuable human informant. so the reason we are in this situation is because the fbi has not been truthful and we don't have confidence in the fbi. >> john: real quick, running short on time here. you say it's an ongoing investigation. your colleague, the ranking member on the committee, jamie raskin said oh, no, this is an old investigation, it's over. here is what he said yesterday. >> what i know is that the fbi, department of justice team under william barr and scott brady in the western district of
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pennsylvania terminated the investigation. they said no ground for further investigative steps. they ended that. >> john: we have sources at the doj say that's not exactly true, scott brady may not have continued with the investigation but it was turned over to david weiss in delaware with the hunter biden investigation. >> i know jamie raskin walked straight out there and lied to the american people. the fbi said four times in that briefing that he and i sat in that this was part of an ongoing investigation. that was their primary reason for not wanting to release this document. >> john: you are saying he heard those words? >> he heard it four times, not once, not twice, not three times, but four times. >> john: he seemed to have not heard it. >> that's what he said, he didn't recall. you always have to watch the words of these guys like jamie raskin. jamie raskin is honestly had to feel uncomfortable with some of the allegations in this form, and when this form essentially
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becomes public you'll know what i'm talking about. very disappointing that raskin said that. i don't put a lot of stock in anything that raskin or adam schiff says about congressional investigations. >> john: congressman james comer, chairman of the oversight committee, appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> gillian: a live look at the white house, press connect karine jean-pierre and john kirby are slated to take questions from reporters any second. we are keeping a close eye on that for you. >> john: also following the devastating collapse of a dam in ukraine. could the crisis slow ukraine's planned counteroffensive against russia? republican congressman michael waltz shares his thoughts on that next. plus this. >> i hope that me speaking out about it will help other female athletes speak up so we don't become silent. >> gillian: a former high school athlete is criticizing connecticut's new policy for transgender athletes as an appeals court is set to hear a
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>> john: pharmaceutical giant merck filing a lawsuit that would let medicare look at prices with drug makers. part of the inflation reduction act, they are arguing is unconstitutional and violates the first and fifth amendments, and also calling it a sham and extortion. moments ago, hhs secretary responding to the lawsuit saying we will vigorously defend the president's drug price negotiation law which is already lowering healthcare costs for seniors and people with
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disabilities. the law is on our side. gillian. >> gillian: national security council spokesman john kirby is about to take questions along with karine jean-pierre from reporters. you are looking at alarming new images of a hydro electric dam in southern ukraine damaged beyond repair. as you can see, flooding there has left nearby villages practically submerged and underwater. there are new fears stemming from this for europe's largest nuclear power plant as well. russia and ukraine are pointing fingers at one another, but analysts say the destruction really stands to benefit vladimir putin's forces. let's bring in florida republican congressman mike waltz, he serves on the house armed services committee among other committees. congressman, so ukraine and russia are trading accusations about this dam, but if we look at the reality on the ground, entire ukraine city and towns are submerged underwater.
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is the idea that ukraine is behind this something that anybody is taking seriously, or that they could be behind this? >> well, you know, gillian, the entire thing does not make sense on a number of fronts. it actually would disadvantage militarily the russians in many ways to have done this. number one, the water supply for crimea is largely dependent on this dam. number two, the nuclear plant they are controlling in zaporizhzhia is also badly affected, for the ability to cool itself from the water held back from the dam. and the flooding it's going to cause actually will impact a number of russia's defensive positions and the eastern side of the dnipro river. it does not make sense from that front. it would slow down most military analysts that have been briefing us are telling us it would slow down the ukrainian
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counteroffensive while the flooding occurs, but that's expected to diminish. so, looks like it would cause russia more harm than good but yet does not make sense for ukraine certainly to have damaged a key piece of its own infrastructure either. it's kind of a head scratcher. >> gillian: i guess intelligence analysts will be working overtime. a new report from "washington post," they say european intelligence has confirmed the united states, the cia in particular, knew about ukraine's plans to bomb the nord stream pipeline as much as three months before that plan was actually executed. the white house is pushing back, the national security council is pushing back on that reporting. what do you make of it? >> well, if i'm reading the reporting accurately, there was
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some indication that the ukrainians were considering it. obviously i can't get into any, and the won't get into any classified details but does beg the question how once again national guardsman in the massachusetts air guard, because this was part of the overall discord leaks, how they had access to something that would have been this sensitive. and so it actually -- set that aside for a moment of what ukraine did or didn't do, but gets to the bottom of insider threat and access and what safeguards we have on our own intelligence. and why we have to see some serious reforms as a result of that, those leaks. >> gillian: a lot of things going on when a war is being fought in the heart of europe as we could rightly expect to be the case, also as you well know the 79th anniversary of d-day
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today, moment to share reflections you have. >> i had the opportunity on the 75th anniversary to jump over the area where the 82nd airborne jumped on june 5, 1944. i did it in a bipartisan way with representative jason crow, a ranger from colorado, and we jumped over this town out of an original aircraft that's 81 years old, the parachutes were new but the uniforms and the aircraft were vintage. gillian, the most amazing experience. everybody has to add normandy to their bucket list. there were banners the size of the wall behind me from the french people saying thank you to our liberators, we love you america, thank you for our freedoms, you would have thought d-day had happened last year, not 75 years ago. the reaction of the french people is just so moving, and we were able to do it with the
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97-year-old paratrooper that had not jumped since 1944. it truly was the greatest generation. they gave it all to serve. although he said this time was a lot more fun than getting shot by the germans, or shot at by the germans 75 years ago. everyone has to go to normandy, add it to your bucket list. >> wonderful story. i have to flag for you jumping out of 75 or 80-year-old aircraft is not without its own risks, congressman. but thank you for sharing with us. we have to go, talk to you soon. >> thank you. >> john: staying in the aircraft might carry risks as well if it's that old. >> gillian: good point. >> john: just in time for summer barbecue season, beef prices are way up. it's only expected to get worse. we will tell you why. >> gillian: joran van der sloot was just days away from being extradited to the u.s., but his lawyer in peru is trying to stop it from happening.
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jonna spilbor will break it down next. >> it's a long shot, hail mary attempt for him to escape the justice that natalee holloway's family so desperately deserves.
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know there is technology and cameras and we are working with law enforcement and we take that policy seriously because we have had instances and we have had in other retailers instances where employees step in and are hurt. >> gillian: after the robbery was caught on tape last month, one of the fired employees told a local news station actually the very same group of thieves had been hitting the store for weeks, which leads us to understand that clearly whatever the ceo is talking about, the cameras in place are not working. >> john: heard him say it's only merchandise, my initial reaction was why do you charge so much for it then? but, what he says is valid to some degree, if you intervene in something like that, you could get hurt. but is firing the employees the right thing to do, or is it to take them aside and say by the way, this is the policy and the reasons why we have the policy. and here is why you should just stand back. as a corporation, we'll take care of it, we have cameras, and
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apparently they had been identified but firing them? >> gillian: also seems, i mean, not to defend anybody one way or another, but like your instinct wherever you are, your home or in your workplace, if people come in and start vandalizing and stealing things, human nature is to try and stop it if you can. >> john: i knew better than to stand in your way when you ransacked my office. >> gillian: exactly, he was out of there faster than you could, you know, say hey. >> john: yes. all right. main suspect in the 2005 dispz an of natalee holloway will fight his temporary extradition to the united states to face charges. his lawyer says his client was never notified of the open extradition process and was unable to challenge it until now. jonna, i'm not sure what the attorney is saying squares with
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what we heard before, because joran van der sloot apparently said i want to go to the united states but then met with representatives from the embassy and now says i don't want to go, and all of this may deny the holloway family the one slim chance at some justice here. >> yeah, leave it to the lawyers to screw it up. i don't think this is going to be justice denied. it will be justice delayed. because there does not appear to be valid ground to now try to undo what joran van der sloot said he was going to do. keep in mind, john, this has been in the making for over a dozen years. joran van der sloot was indicted on these charges, not murder, on the extortion and the fraud charges back like 2010 or earlier. so this has been a long time coming that the holloway family has tenaciously tried to get him extradited to the united states for one reason and one reason only.
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once he is here, they will have the legal muscle to get what they really want and what the holloway family deserves and that's answers. something that they have wanted since 2005. >> john: so on that point, the family just wants to know what happened to natalee. if they get him into a court of law in alabama, on extortion and wire fraud charges, can they start to bring up the whole idea of what happened and could they potentially get answers? i mean, here is a guy who is charged with misleading the mother of the woman that he is believed by many people to have killed. what makes anybody think he's going to come clean in a courtroom? >> well, here is why. if they do get him here and he is potentially facing 50 years of prison time in the united states, which would happen after he completes his 28 years in the peru prison, at least then the court system can say look, we'll grant you immunity for the murder of natalee holloway and
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we might even grant you immunity for the extortion charges if you come clean with everything that you know that happened to that beautiful innocent young woman in 2005 when she was last seen walking out of a club with you, and since then -- they didn't -- she disappeared literally without a trace. they haven't found an eye lash of this poor girl. so he -- he knows the answers. >> john: do you real think the family would trade immunity for information? >> well, look. at this point, if he were going to serve the rest of his life or a long portion of his life in a peruvian prison and they got the answers they wanted and meant giving up having him locked behind bars in the united states, the family would strongly consider. they really deserve to know what happened to their daughter, they really do. >> john: his attorney believes he probably will still be extradited, we'll keep watching. appreciate it. all right.
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>> john: to the white house we go, and john kirby, talking about ukraine after the big dam burst flooding so much of the area, and perhaps mucking up ukraine's plans for a counteroffensive. >> forces took over illegally occupying since then. we are going the best we can to assess those reports and we are working with ukrainians to gather more information. but we cannot say what happened at this point. we will certainly share more information when we can. what is clear and what we absolutely can say is that the damage to the ukrainian people and to the region will be significant. this dam which was built in 1956 as part of the hydro electric power plant sits astried the dnipro river, the reservoir protect, holds about as much water as the great salt lake in utah, that's a lot of water. the water helps supply southern
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ukraine, including the crimean peninsula, as well as the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant and relieved to see the statement by the iaea asserting there was no immediate risk to the safety of that plant. as i mentioned, the dam also helps power the hydro electric power plant. so in addition to loss of life and livelihoods, destruction could have a devastating impact on ukraine's energy security and will certainly on the canal system. so we are in touch with the ukrainian authorities how we can provide assistance to the many who have been displaced and forced to flee for safety. work with humanitarian partners on the ground to supply aid. russia's unprovoked war in ukraine has had a devastating impact on the people and terrible suffering to them. we will support them through military, humanitarian, and
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economic support. we will stay in touch with the ukrainian counterparts and as we have more information we will provide it to you. >> what impact do you think the dam destruction to have on counteroffensive operations? >> it's too soon. i won't speak to the ukrainian military operations in any way whatsoever. but right now the immediate focus is rightly on all the ukrainians whose lives and towns and villages are affected by the flooding and make sure they have the aid and assistant they need. right now, too soon to assess what kind of impact it's going to have on the battlefield. >> there is a report in washington post that the u.s. reports that ukrainians were planning attack on the nord stream pipeline. comment on the intelligence of that and also suggestions that russia may have been responsible for that, why was russia finger pointing at russia when the u.s. might have had information that the ukrainians were planning this.
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>> i'm not going to engage in the intelligence matters from the podium with regard to that disclosure or any of the other, not going to speak to one that the "washington post" said. i think you know there are three countries conducting an investigation of the nord stream sabotage and we called it sabotage at the moment, germany, sweden and denmark, those investigations are ongoing and the last thing we want to do from this podium is get ahead of those investigations. >> john, you just said you can't say -- is your assessment it is more likely than not that russian forces are responsible for that rather than ukrainian forces? >> we have not made that determination. >> have you determined whether this is an intentional act? >> we are talking with the ukrainians about that.
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>> and president zelenskyy said he believes it's impossible to blow up the dam from shelling. is it from within? >> haven't come to a final conclusion. >> iran launched today a hypersonic ballistic missile that can reach 1,400 kilometer. your assessment of that and implication to the region. and second, critical of that administration -- >> who -- >> tweeted and said basically that the administration does not have a clear policy towards iran and just briefly just tell you what he said, he said biden administration has been caught flatfooted and has failed to articulate a broader iran strategy and referring to the expiration of the ballistic missile at the u.n. in october. >> i wonder if he's talked to the iranians about that, i don't think they would respond we have been flatfooted.
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if anything, the biden administration has been very clear, very concise, and very firm on pushing back on iran's destabilizing activities in the region, to the ballistic missile program. i'm not going to talk about the specific reports of that alleged hypersonic missile but we have laid down very clear sanctions and other activities to push back on what iran is doing in the region again to include the ballistic missile program. i would not assess the iranians would say we have been caught flatfooted or ignorant. >> ukraine after the attack on the dam, speaker mccarthy on the hill today said, warned against trying to use ukraine to bypass part of the deal -- is there a concern the dam attack might accelerate the timeline when the white house needs to go back to
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congress for additional ukraine assistance? do you have a general sense of what that timeline is? i know in the past you said you still have kind of a good amount of funding to work through and is -- are the speaker's comments consistent with what you guys understood out of the deal. >> so, we have been grateful for the bipartisan and bicameral support for ukraine. that's one. two, we have enough funds as i said earlier to help support ukraine on the battlefield throughout the rest of this fiscal year. again, we are just now assessing the damage done by this dam explosion, so it would be imprudent to speculate as to what impact that might have. it's certainly difficulty early stage to see there is going to be an impact on supplemental funding either this year or going forward into next year
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based on the explosion, but again, we are in the early hours here and take a look at this. and we have said before that if we feel like we need to go back to congress for additional funding for ukraine, we'll do that. we'll do it at the appropriate time and now is not the appropriate time to have to have that conversation with them. >> supplemental funding, is that an indication that you see this as differently from the house speaker who is saying now that he wants additional ukraine funding? >> what i'm saying our focus is on executing the funding this fiscal year and making sure ukraine can succeed on the battlefield and we are not at a point to talk about the need for additional funding later on whatever form that might take. we are grateful for the supplemental funding this fiscal year, both chambers, both parties and we expect that will continue. >> norad intercept over the weekend, that plane stopped responding to air traffic controllers 15 minutes after taking off but took an hour and a half until f-16s were able to
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intercept it. is that ok with you, do you think the underlying protocol needs to change here? >> i'm not going to litigate the event here from the podium. dod will take a look at the process, again as i said yesterday, they responded in a textbook fashion but also said they will look at this and if they determine there might have been a procedure done differently they can speak to that. >> two for you, john. nord stream pipeline, three european investigations underway. does the u.s. know when they will be concluded? >> i have to refer you to the countries. >> is the u.s. actively investigating? >> no. >> why not? >> three european countries have embarked on independent investigations and we are comfortable in their ability to look and come up with conclusions. >> so, there is this gas
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pipeline situation, there's the drone attack in moscow a few weeks ago, the missile attacks in moscow. fair to say ukraine itself may be doing a lot more of these more brazen things than the u.s. is willing to admit? >> i'll let ukraine speak to their activities. what i can tell you, ed, we have said it before, we don't support attacks inside russia and we don't encourage or enable ukraine to be able to do that. we have made those concerns known to ukrainian officials certainly privately, absolutely publicly and received assurances in return. >> i wanted to ask about, does the biden administration have any concern with a major u.s. sports league getting into business with the saudi public investment fund? >> we'll let the saudi government speak to that. >> does it seem believable to you that russia would destroy a dam and flood ethnic russian villages and cut off the water supply to crimea? i mean -- that doesn't seem
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logical, it seems about as logical as blowing up one's own pipeline. >> we have come to no conclusions. we are working with the ukrainians. we'll get as much information as we can. >> french and german leaders have called for new elections in kosovo due to low voter turnout. >> obviously we support free and fair elections everywhere they are held. i don't have anything specific on that. >> another question, this time on -- the president still on tap to go to the continent later this year? >> i don't have anything on the calendar, april, but the president is absolutely intent on visiting africa as he said he would and i don't have any, have a trip schedule to speak to. >> it is still planned to happen. >> he still intends to visit the continent, absolutely. >> one more quick follow-up on
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norad. >> investigating it. >> i didn't even say that, it's common practice when dod conducts an operation to take a look and walk through a sort of a hot wash of it, i'll let them speak to whether they are doing that and what that looks like. >> that's not. my question for you on it is look at the timing and the data from the plane, seems like the intercept happened after the plane had flown over washington, d.c., would that from your understanding an intentional choice or was that an issue of a plane catching up and trying to get there. >> i don't know, i'll refer you to dod. >> john, on the dam explosion, can you speak to the president's engagement on this when he was briefed and is he ordering the declassification of some of the information that would help be able to reveal publicly who the u.s. suspects was behind this? >> the president was certainly kept informed of the event
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earlier this morning. i don't have it for you on that, and i know of no decision to downgrade anything at this point. >> and separately on we understand secretary blinken will be travelling to china in the coming weeks after, of course, the visit that was canceled earlier this year. can you speak to the u.s. officials who were there in the last couple of days what role they may have played in trying to finalize this trip that had been try to be rescheduled. >> certainly one of the purposes of dan and sarah's trip as i said yesterday, to make sure the lines of communication remain open and to talk about the potential for future visits, higher level visits, i think i said that yesterday, and they felt that they had good useful conversations with prc officials about that, and to that end, and i think you'll see us speak to future visits here in the near future. i just don't want to get ahead of the schedule. >> thank you. quick one on lavrov and his
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comments on f-16 fighter jets, he said that they can accommodate nuclear weapons and would escalate the conflict further. >> the first thing i would say to minister lavrov, if you are worried about ukrainian capabilities, take the troops and leave ukraine. number two, the f-16s are going to be provided as a part of long-term defense needs for ukraine. very, very open and transparent about that. it will take some time for those jets to get there. we are going to start with a training program for ukrainian pilots and that has not started yet and it is about helping ukraine with the self-defense needs and the last thing i would say, president biden has been extremely consistent that we don't want to see this war escalate, certainly not into the nuclear realm and it not the united states tossing around
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reckless nuclear rhetoric, it's people like lavrov and president putin and putin's press secretary. they are out there bantering around nuclear capabilities, not the united states. nobody wants to see this escalate beyond the violence that's already visited upon the ukrainian people, no reason for that. >> are you saying that f-16s cannot accommodate -- >> i'm not going to talk about the nuclear capabilities of any platform in the american arsenal. the purpose of providing advanced fighter aircraft is to help ukraine defend itself, defend its air space and its territorial integrity, period, and there's no interest by the united states in escalating the conflict, certainly not in the nuclear realm. >> on the dam in ukraine, i understand it's too early to assess people responsible for it. can you say that would qualify as a war crime? >> i don't have a determination on that to speak to today. i would just say, you know, again, without -- we are still
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trying to assess what happened here, but the russians had illegally taken over that dam and the reservoir many months ago and they were occupying it when the explosion happened and it's very clear that the deliberate destruction of civilian infrastructure is not allowed by the laws of war and in the additional protocol to the geneva convention, that the russians have themselves signed, destruction of civilian infrastructure such as dams and dams are clearly articulated in there are a violation of that code. but again, we have not made a decision, we are still talking to the ukrainians about this. >> john: john kirby at the white house talking about the big news out of ukraine, a dam was blown up in the last 24 hours, releasing a huge torrent of water down the dnipro river and what the fallout is going to be in terms of the humanitarian
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crisis and what it might do to the counteroffensive ukraine was about to launch across the river and across the top of the crimean peninsula according to analysts. >> gillian: also this, something completely different for you, former new jersey governor chris christie will launch his second bid for the white house coming up later today. he's joining a very crowded and still growing republican primary field. byron york, chief political correspondent for "the washington examiner" and fox news contributor. byron, a lot to unpack when it comes to christie entering the race. 1% piece of the pie in the polls, 47% unfavorability rating among republicans, is this about he really thinks he has a shot or about something else? >> he ran for president in 2016, finished tenth in the iowa
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caucuses and sixth in the new hampshire primary and then he dropped out. not a really successful history so far. and you have to remember, he kind of burst on the national scene in 2009, which was a big deal. after 2008, that had been the big obama year and democrats won everything and christie winning the governorship in 2009, a big deal, a star in the republican party. he did not run for president in 12, he ran in 16 and did not do very well and now toward 24, a real question whether he is passed his sell by date at this point. and the other thing is, he seems to believe if you could just punch trump hard enough, if you could just hit him in the nose hard enough, that will bring him down and dozens of republicans have tried to do that and failed. >> gillian: a long list of -- >> long list. >> john: and democrats have tried as well, it doesn't work. wonder about the net effect on the race, and to use a
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modification of a metaphor we were using on the panel earlier today, like you have two milk shakes. and this one representing almost half the party because that's what the polling shows, has got one straw in it, and that's donald trump straw. and the other milkshake, which represents the nondonald trump part of the republican party, how many straws now, and judging by chris christie physical stature, he could drink a lot of the milkshake if he wanted to. >> gillian: ouch. >> john: you are not affecting the donald trump, just other parties. >> little net effect in the race. but in christie's favor, he's thinking about the first debate august 23rd, i think, milwaukee, fox news, and if he's on the stage there, i think he thinks he can take it to trump in a way that maybe nobody ever did. good question, some of the earliest debates, they are not
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there, thinking back before trump to 2012, the first republican race mitt romney, he didn't show up for the first debate and also ran types. trump may want the same effect this time. >> gillian: some political analysts have sort of indicated that this is -- that's what this really is about. his entire reason for entering this race is to increase his visibility so he can continue serving his public servant role as a battering ram against trum, where he thinks he gets traction. maybe write another t book or a speaking tour how terrible trump is and what he's hoping to get out of this. >> there is a credibility problem. he runs in 2016, he does not do well, then drops out of the race and endorses trump and then close to trump, and now he's turned on trump.
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so i think you have to think you were for him, and against him, and against him again, what is it? >> john: trump kept on hammering him while he was president. christie believes trump gave him a case of covid which made him really, really sick. there is some bad blood there. remarkable transformation, i don't like trump, i like trump, i don't like trump again. >> they still talk a lot. trump is very transactional and when you leave the circle you don't really leave. sometimes you are back in. i wrote a book about the efforts of the trump russia investigation and the investigation, he was talking to trump on the phone the whole time at times you thought they would not be talking to each other. >> gillian: i guess that's one way to do it. >> john: you never really leave.
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>> gillian: i don't talk to people who call me terrible, terrible names in public. no danger of me running for anything. >> john: you talk awe among yourselves. could the military be behind multiple ufos in the public. one air force veteran says yes and is blowing the whistle on it. latest from capitol hill. plus, bret baier, a councilmember, and dr. nesheiwat, all that and more as "america reports" rolls on. are now for your whole body. plus, fast-working crepe corrector diminishes wrinkled skin in just two days. gold bond. champion your skin. veteran homeowners, need to lower your monthly expenses and get cash? here's a great way to do it. the newday 100 va cash out loan. at newday, our veterans on average pay off $44,000 of high rate debt,
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