>> sean: all right, unfortunately that is all the time we have left this evening. before we go, programming note. we have a live audience show tomorrow night, tickets are free. hannity.com is where you get them and register. please set your dvr so you never miss an episode of hannity and as always, thank you for joining us. in the meantime let not your heart be troubled, laura ingraham takes it from here. i notice you're not wearing a tie tonight, what happened? you don't have your tie on. >> laura: i thought you were going to make a comment about my cross which sometimes people say why aren't you wearing your cross. >> sean: i can't see it. >> laura: just like with you if you wear a certain blouse sean that doesn't work with your neck line. >> sean: certain blah us? i don't wear a blouse. >> laura: one of your puffy blouses that you have to be careful. same with me. i have this collar that i have to put mine in like this so i do have my cross on. >> sean: so when i go downstairs right now and i get ready, i'm going to put on a long-sleeve t-shirt. and i already have my sweat

pants on so we're good to go. >> laura: that's right thank you for calling me the galies of your new book sweat pant nation i think it will be a huge hit. thank you for sending me thatment i'll get you my comments after the show. great to see you as always sean. i'm laura ingraham, this is the ingraham angle from washington tonight. true conspiracies, that's the focus of tonight's angle. all right, when the dc establishment doesn't want to confront the legitimate concerns of the voters, their stock response is usually something like, oh, stop the fearmongering or, that's just another right wing conspiracy. but this tactic doesn't work anymore because they've lost all credibility. now, consider what happened with covid. the demonization of all of us who vehemently oppose lockdowns. we were branded as anti science and dangerous. you watched every night, you remember this. as were the governors who refused to lock down. >> this is a death cult. the texas gop, only they want to you do the dying. >> the people of florida are going to suffer unnecessarily.

they will be unnecessary hospitalization and tragically unnecessary deaths. >> laura: okay, tony. well, of course, that is exactly what did not happen. scientists from johns hopkins university and loon university say lock downs of the pandemic compared to less strict in sweden compared with 1700 deaths in england and wales as summed up, the during that coneian measures had a negligible impact on covid mortality and were a policy failure of gigantic proportions. and national review coauthored a significant study showing that states such as illinois and california, that imposed lockdown measures such as closing businesses and schools, did not significantly improve health outcomes, but had much worse economic and educational outcomes. states such as florida, that rejected lockdowns, did much

better. and yet, to this day, the medical state is still largely circling the wagons. now, look, too much money on the line for them to be anything but militant about the experimental covid shots that were untested and unnecessary. look at the sniffling press jackals who are circling rfk jr. >> his instagram account had been removed in 2021 for spreading constant misinformation about covid vaccines. >> he's a complete nutter, and were it not for his name and his family wealth, he would be much better placed as the angry owner of a used book store. he is a total crank. >> wouldn't know anything about trading off your family name. remember how the vaccines were sold, though, as the ticket to preventing transmission and reinfection? >> the vaccine's safe. that keeps coming up. the answer is now overwhelmingly it should be off the table. if you look at the striking

data, overwhelmingly showed the effectiveness of vaccines particularly in preventing severe illness and deaths. >> laura: of course, they were not effective on the transmission issue that they were promising it was, or reinfection. so fauci strangely side stepped the question of natural and acquired immunity, and now we know why. >> if you've already had covid you don't need the vaccine. we know that infection immunity, your natural immunity is stronger than vaccine immunity. >> laura: the risks associated with the shot were in no way co-mens rate with were absurd. fauci and those were among the most destructive forces in modern medical history. political power and money are always at the heart of these smear critics operations and when the news of the hunter

biden laptop story broke at the height of the 2020 election, rather than dig into the facts our media decided to block and tackle for the democrats. >> hunter biden, this laptop that intelligence officials have warned is likely russian disinformation. >> i'm going russian disinformation effort. >> it is so obviously a russian operationally. >> all of a sudden, two and a half weeks before the election, this laptop appears somehow. >> laura: wow. we, of course, all know the truth now. the biden family got very rich because foreign officials saw they could buy them off one family member at a time. and hunter biden's laptop, it was real. and the biden campaign orchestrated a public statement signed by former intel officials who claimed it was all a russian propaganda effort. you heard clapper there. former cia deputy director revealed averager antony blinken of the biden campaign was the

impetus of that public statement signed in 2020 that again implied the laptop belonging to hunter biden was actually just disinformation. well, this story is arguably bigger than watergate because the officials who took part in this orchestrated coverup included former cia director john brennan. former obama dni james clapper, and former cia director, then defense secretary leon panetta, among others. they gave biden cover for this moment. the moment when he faced off with trump in the presidential debate. >> there are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what this -- he's accusing me of is a russian plant. they have said that this has all the -- 4--5 former heads of the cia, both parties, say what he's saying is a bunch of gar beige. >> you mean the laptop is now another russia, russia, russia hoax?

>> laura: of course, trump was right in how he characterized it. it was all a lie. but once again the press didn't do any mea culpas afterwards and clapper and brennan they still show up unbowed on television to rail against trump's attacks on democracy, when it is they who tried to sabotage trump before the election. and they wonder why nobody trusts the government anymore. remember, you're always a conspiracy theorist if you're asking questions that decent and smart and dedicated reporters used to ask. and in perhaps the most shocking example of the biden administration's instinct to deflect and conceal and lie involves the explosion of the nord stream pipeline. from the outset they were trying to act like it was some great mystery as to who the and tours are. >> it has been now exactly a month, full month since the explosion of the nord stream pipe lines.

is there any update in the investigation of what happened. >> i don't have an update jonathan, we believe it was an act of sabotage there are investigations i'm not going to get ahead. >> an investigation as to who conducted the sabotage. >> i'm get getting ahead. >> laura: if you dared to ask questions you were smeared as a putin a positively gist. >> it was a deliberate act of sabotage and now the russians are pumping out disinformation analyze. we're going to work with our allies to get to the bottom of precisely what happened. >> comments from the fringe that the russians will of course elaborate and highlight. they love to see the fringe talking >> laura:ing the fringe talking the. hmm. the only ones with motives here with ukrainians, but biden stooges didn't want to give up their pal zelenskyy. well, well, well. tonight it seems all those pro putin conspiracy theorists were correct and our government knew it all along. the washington post reporting

three months before the and tours bombed the gas line the biden administration learned from a close ally that the ukrainian military had planned a covert attack on the undersea network using a small team of divers who reported direct will i to the commander in chief of the ukrainian armed forces. so, when john kirby was feigning ignorance and biden was talking about putin's, you know, disinformation, the truth was they not only had word of the plan, they had the minute details of the plan that was to take place. the highly specific details, which include numbers of operatives and methods of attack, show that for nearly a year, western allies had a basis to suspect kyiv in the sabotage. now, this is beyond disturbing. it should call into question almost everything the biden administration has told us about this war and the need for our involvement in it.

given the administration's coverup, the only question is, did anyone in our government, or representing our government, help ukraine in any way, shape, or form carry out this attack. do any of you have any faith, by the way, that we're going to get the truth from someone like secretary austin or general milley or the current cia chief, bill burns? it's highly doubtful, isn't it? but will the media start finally realizing that zelenskyy maybe, maybe, maybe just isn't the saint they've all been selling him as. and will we, by simply posing this question tonight on the angle, once again be branded as a pro putin conspiracy theorist show? it's very likely and that's the angle. next guest has unique insight into this lack of trust as a remain for director of national intel at the time he spoke out and revealed the truths about the covid origins, the hunter biden laptop scandal and a lot

more. joining us now john rat clef former trump director of national intelligence. john, great to see you tonight. >> thanks laura, great opening. >> laura: i want to start with this story in the washington post. again, many of us at the time were saying the only ones with real motives here to blow up this pipeline that took seven years to build were the ukrainians or people supporting the ukrainians. for that we were branded as putin apologists et cetera. now it looks like we knew all along that this was a plan to be carried out by ukrainian military forces. how important is this story tonight, and how significant is this scandal? >> laura i think you hit the nail on the head where you said this is really the pattern of the biden administration. often times the intelligence that we have is good and they're either not listening to it or they're being dishonest to the american people about what the intelligence really says. we saw our intelligence on what happened in afghanistan was good

and the biden administration lied about that. our intelligence was good about what would happen with putin moving on ukraine, and the administration lied about it. same with regard to china, and spying, the covid -- or the spy balloon that flew over the country. we had good intelligence on what they were doing and trying to do but they misled the american people. this is just the latest iteration with regard to nord stream two with the u.s. intelligence very clearly having this intelligence, but misleading the american people intimating that it was russia for a long period of time and now slowly trying to walk it back because they have to because other foreign governments are telling the truth about what really happened there. >> laura: well, there's a bigger issue, is there, not at play here? the american people have been led to believe that volodymyr zelenskyy is the closest thing to a modern-day saint that exists in geopolitics. he's been on all the award shows. he's gone around the world,

toast of the town. if this is truly what happened, and it looks like it is, what does that tell us about the pure motives of ukraine in all of of this? that did enormous damage to your op, and europe's energy sources, did it not? >> it does -- absolutely. if that is true, if this is really what happened. but it also tells us a lot, laura, about the biden administration and the fact that they would mislead the american people for political reasons, because they wanted to promote the u.s.'s role with regard to arming zelenskyy in ukraine. >> laura: right. >> so i think that's as big a story and unfortunately as you said it's part of the pattern that they have followed with regard to all of this, where, you know, they essentially bland conservative information or evidence as a conspiracy theory, they come up with the counter narrative that they want, they verify that with experts like,

you know, the 51 intelligence experts and then use the leftist media to amplify the false narrative. >> they don't ask any questions. >> they want people to believe it isn't true and suppress the truth as conspiracy and that's exactly what happened here. >> laura: no questions asked. they don't even ask any questions, they don't follow up on anything until it's handed to them on a silver platter because a whistleblower comes forward or they get a comment on a chat room that turns out to be actually an intel report. that's the only reason we know about this tonight is because that texier person posted order a chat room. >> absolutely just as if i hadn't become directr on of national intelligence you wouldn't have found out about hunter biden's laptop or the russia investigation, all of these thingss

>> laura: do you believe ukraine with the dam and the river, essentially saying this was russian sabotage, do you buy that. >> reagan used to say trust but verify that doesn't apply with the biden administration, they've lost all trust and so it's simply verify and i'm skeptical about everything they relayed about what our intelligence says because they have misled us about what our intelligence -- as i said, we often have good intelligence and they're often misleading the american people about what it really says for political gain. >> sean: for political reasons. so the intel community is highly politicized to push a war that would is on probably be less popular in the united states if the people had the truth. that's what's going on. john great to see you as always. thank you >> speaking of ukraine, this is an interesting story. the new york times is basically saying, well, first, they never had any issue finding white supremacists no matter where they look. clarence thomas is one, of course, ted cruz is a white -- everyone's a white supremacist. but when it comes to ukrainian

soldiers and nazi patches on their uniforms or elsewhere, they have a surprising amount of nuance. nazi symbols on ukraine's front lines highlight thorny issues of history. wait, so naziism is now a thorny issue according to new york times. only the media's theft of america's never ending funding of ukraine war effort to the nazis. ned joins us, ned, this story about the nord stream pipeline to this story about nazi symbols on the battle front in ukraine, i think the american people are just now getting the truth about what this is all about over there. >> yeah, and i think the american people deserve to keep on asking questions. a lot of our questions get the answers. but never seeses to amaze me laura how these corporate propagandists on demand oh

obediently twist themselves into pretzels on behalf of the u.s. security state. an incredibly special talent made easier by the lack of honesty more or less ethics and integrity. in 2015, the new york times who wrote this piece about ukraine's neo-nazi problem, in 2015 they wrote about and stated, ukraine's regimen was a neo-nazi regiment that embraced nazi symbols associated wind the nazi ss. they had a follow-up piece in 2019. but now? now it's hey kids, let's not get too worked up about ukraine's military accomplishmented relationship with nazi imagery. in fact what we should be doing is continue funding to the tunes of hundreds of billions of dollars ukraine and its neo nazis because of freedom and democracy or whatever argument lindsey graham or nikki haley are making on behalf of this. responsible republicans should be doing if they're advocating on the american taxpayer is an immediate end to this madness

and we're not hearing that which is a deep shame to the republicans in dc. >> laura: the idea that putin would blow up his own pipeline going back to what john rad cleave and i were talking about. >> it is a insane? he ever in made any sense, but our state department still to this day won't even discuss it. >> why was the determination so strong in the beginning that this was russia bombing its own pipeline? >> so i'm not going to comment on or confirm reports about perverted intelligence. those investigations are ongoing i'm not going to get ahead of that process. >> laura: ned, they don't know what to do over there at this point. so embarrassing. >> i think we were not only obviously intimately acquainted with what took place. i think we were intimately involved. we had every reason to be involved in blowing up that pipeline that was providing germany and some others, who i think were having hesitations about where this was headed with their energy crisis.

i have no doubt, laura, that at some point we're going to get startling revelations, not only were we aware we were probably involved in some level in the blowing up of the nord stream pipeline. >> hard to see how ukraine had the expertise or the technical skills. >> uh-huh. >> laura: to do underwater demolition of the type that would be necessary for this. i don't think we're going to get -- we're not going to get the answers from general austin. >> no we are not. >> laura: an ingraham angle exclusive a former navy seal commander is under screw any for his role in the death of a 24 year old during the training known as hell week. captain brad geary is here next with his fir live interview to tell us why he feels he did nothing wrong and respond to the scathing criticism from the family of the deceased. stay there.

♪ >> laura: last year, 24-year-old kyle mullen tragically collapsed and died just hours after finishing hell week. it's a grueling navy seal course that tests the physical and mental limits of seal candidates. his death, and the hospitalization of three others from his class, shined a light on the training that was being done and cast a particularly dark shadow over one of its commanders.

fox news breaking correspondent and anchor of fox news tonight trace joins me with the details. >> he is captain and winner of the james bond stock dale award the highest honor of leadership. he was also on path to become an admiral himself. when sea man died they focused on captain geary's leadership and the final report depicted geary negatively saying he allowed his trainers to push seal candidates too hard and that geary believed the candidates needed to toughen up, quoting here captain geary maintained a view that the high attrition was caused by other reasons of the current generation having less mental resilience or being less tough. but geary says that is the antithesis of his philosophy saying when he was given the command he expressed concern of the rising number of candidates dropping out of the program. he then implemented changes like mandating this he get more sleeps and eliminating rough

sacks from runs in the early part of training. geary and his legal team point out that kyle mullens never quit mentality likely contributed to his death and that even when mullen was coughing up blood he refused to accept medical treatment because he was intent on finishing the training. but kyle mullen's mother also blames captain geary for her son's defendant saying quote the safety of the enin is their primarily responsibility. former acting intents secretary miller told the new york post that those most deserving of accountability of captain geary's superiors claiming the pentagon's bureaucracy pushes blame on those in charge of individual commands, laura. >> laura: trace thank you >> joining me now is captain brad geary and his attorney. captain geary thank you very much for joining us. i want to get your reaction on what trace ended his report on just now, that those who are most deserving of accountability

were your superiors and i know that one of them, nah i havey captain ryan dresler was pulled out of his job i think two months early because of what happened to kyle mullen and some seals i've spoken to said that they thought that was unfair. your reaction to all of this tonight? >> yeah, thanks for having us, laura. first off, i do want to highlight that i am here on my own personal time and these are my personal opinions. nothing i say here reflects official government positions from the department of defense united states naval or naval special warfare. furthermore we will talk about and limited to what has already publicly been released. so thank you. we're not here to point the finger to any of our superior officers whatsoever. as far as responsibility and accountability, every commanding officer, myself included are totally responsible and accountable for everything our commands do or don't do.

in this case in particular, facts and information were concealed from us which prevented us from instructors kadri up to my level from making decisions to prevent this from happening. >> sean:. >> laura: what specifically, brad? what was kept from you? >> well, if i actually could answer that question, laura. specifics that gave rise to this statement come from the autopsy. i've consulted with medical professionals in preparing this defense, and they have shared with me that there's certainius concerns around underlying medical conditions that seaman mullens had at the time that no one in command had reasonable notice of and because they didn't have reasonable notice they could act to protect seaman mullens even from himself. >> also -- >> laura: hold on. were these pre-existing conditions? i know there's rumors that i have not confirmed about steroid

use, which i know is a problem in and out of the service, has been for a long time even with random drug tests and so forth. is that what you're talking about tonight? we have to make this very clear for our viewers. yes or no. >> looking at the reporting, i would direct you to the reporting, the reporting supports there was an enlarged heart. we don't know what the basis for that was because the autopsy failed to do sufficient forensic analysis around the cause for that, as well as structural changes to the heart. that, combined with evidence of peds use that the ncis provided and they glossed over creates a situation where we can't really trust the determinations for the cause of death that came through in the reporting. >> laura: captain geary we reached out to the family of kyle mullen who told us in par mr. geary is trying to help himself in the court of public opinion but in reality is a disgrace to the seals the navy the nation he'll put on a smile

and lie through his teeth, he shouldn't be given air time. you get the point. should be sitting in a cell. i know quite a few navy seals, i'm privileged to know a number of them. i don't know a single person who would in any way be anything but, you know, horribly saddened devastated by the loss of any candidate for the seals or a fellow seal team member. but, of course, we understand the bereavement of a mother or father who lost a son but maybe your reaction to what the family's feeling. >> yeah. thank you. i'm not here to defend myself. i'm here to right some wrongs that were mischaracterized in the report about me, my leadership and my instructor kadri, and i believe that the america public deserves to know they can trust the seals teams t-swift teams and our training kadri. they are consummate professionals and americans still producing patriots we take those patriots and lead and train them to be the next war

fighters. as far as for the family, i can never understand the grief that the mullen family has gone through and continues to go through to regina, tj, liz and the entire family i stand by my promise i made to you back at the beginning of this, that i will walk with you through this grief if you'll have me. i want what you want, the truth. and we have requested a congressional inquiry with in the house armed services committee and i know you've asked for the same thing. you have my absolute condolences, i will carry this weight with me forever. >> laura: jason, this is a grueling -- grueling doesn't describe what the seals go through. it is brutal. very few people can really take the mental anguish that goes along with the training, let alone the physical anguish. is there a concern here that the standards that have to be this stuff, in order to produce seals that can go into these very dangerous environments at a moment's notice, that those standards themselves will be in

any way diminished because of a concern of future deaths or unknown prior conditions of possible seal recruits? >> of course i carry that concern, laura. as a marine myself, i know that standards have to be maintaineded to make sure our war fighters are fully prepared for the threats, especially with the fourth come issues developing in the world. it does bring great concern overall that we're going to look to lower those standards without drivable data that would support lowering those standards. that's why the truth record is so important here, and why we're pushing for an accurate and complete truth record that will show that the curriculum-managed standards for bud's training that have been vetted for years are consistent with the mission and end state of producing america's top war fighters. >> laura: captain geary, jason,

thank you both for being here tonight. we appreciate it >> now marc eric adams says new yorkers should house illegal immigrants in their homes. so how many will take them up on that. the angle hit the streets of manhattan to find out plus one of lea thomas's teammates speaks out for the first time on television. what she and her teammates went through and how the school threatened them into silence. stay there.

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>> it is my vision to take the next step to this, to go to the faith-based locals and then move to private residents. there are residents who are suffering right now because of economic challenges. they have spare rooms.

>> laura: that's how new york city mayor eric adams thinks he'll solve the immigration crisis by housing illegals in private homes. i wonder if gracie mansion has some extra room. i think so. the angle wanted to know what new yorkers thought of this so we sent producers out into the sanctuary city to find out. >> it's not a good idea. i think what he's doing is not good for the city. he's destroying the city. he has to support the poor people that live in the city. he has to support first the american people. >> if you have a spare bedroom in your apartment you can house a migrant? do you think that's a good idea? >> um. >> i feel like that answer's kind of subjective. i feel like it really depends on your view on it, some people would be into it. >> for a few days. >> i would be open minded towards it, yeah. >> i wouldn't some stranger illegal or not illegal just a stranger in general. >> there are dangers that come

with it but in terms of any type of crisis you want to house people it's your choice and home and you're allowed to bring whatever you want in home. >> i don't know nothing about those people. >> they are offering money possibly $125 per day per person. >> no, no, i wouldn't do it. >> if this opportunity came to you you wouldn't take it. >> i absolutely would not. >> laura: eric, aoc, i guess it's your move now. ese illegals into your own o homes? let us know when you do because we'll send a camera over to document it all. >> how's it make you feel that you're the first transgender person to ever win a ncaa championship? >> i'm very humbled and honored to hold that title and i can only hope that i'm able to give other trans people the inspiration and motivation i was

given. >> laura: after biological ja note i can male lea thomas became an ncaa champ his ucla teammates were being silenced behind the scenes and were afraid to speak out. >> there were a lot of things talking about, like the locker room situation if you brought it up you were transphobic. if you even brought up the fact that lea swimming might not be fair you were shut down as a fateful person. >> laura: that teammate you saw in a silhouette was paula scanlon and she's not scared anymore. in her first interview, paula, what's changed between then and now. why are you ready to publicly discuss this issue? >> i think one of the biggest things for me is just seeing how much this has changed in the last year. right? i thought maybe this won't continue to happen in other sports, maybe the swimming is the exception and i've seen this

blow up. there's cases of the track people in california. there's cycling. skateboarding. every single women's sport imaginable has been infiltrated by biological males competing on the women's team and i decided that, you know, it's okay if i get some hate and i shouldn't be scared anymore because i need to use my voice and encourage other women to speak out against unfair competition. >>. >> laura: paula as a former college athlete i applaud you and everything you're doing. i want to get your reaction to what lea thomas said on a podcast just a few weeks back. watch this. >> they're like, oh, we respect you as a trans woman, whatever, we respect your identity. you just don't think it's fair. you can't have that half support using the guise of feminism to sort of push transphobic beliefs. >> laura: paula are you using feminism just to hide your fact that you and all your teammates

subjecteded this are really transphobic. >> no, and frankly before this happened i didn't consider myself a feminist. i just understood basic biological realities and believed in the truth and never thought any of that would be considered transphobic or feminism or non-feminism so no. >> laura: the odd thing about this is there are so many liberals out there who spent most of their lives advocating very passionately for women's rights, and yet this is the area where women finally have many platforms to succeed, many different sports platforms, and now i guess when we see the wimbledon women's finals being played between two biological males then maybe this will change? you need a high profile event like that, don't you think? when a man against a woman and the man trounces the woman like a college player. >> yeah then we have to start our women' category all over again, right?

>> laura: what about your fellow teammates who of course were all intim nated into silence. they were athletes themselves. it's hard to rock the boat. i understand that. i've never been like that but i understand that. what are you saying to them and what are you hearing from them after you decided to speak out? >> i havent heard from many. i have had a few teammates reach out and thank me for what i'm doing. there is support. it might be limited but there are there and there are people who understand fairness and biological reality. so i have hope and hopefully more girls speak out not just my team but on other teams affected by this. >> laura: what do you say to moms and dads out there who see this train coming down the tracks for their daughter who is maybe training to be one of the best of the best. >> definitely speak out as early as you can about it, raise concerns. make the environments that are letting this happen that you're aware you're not okay with it. we need to come together and use our voices get as many people as

we can talking about this. i think if we really get a big crowd behind us they can't silence us. >> laura: strength in numbers. paula thank you for your courage and continuing to speak up we appreciate it >> coming up next the a historical 1619, not only a prime time perch on disney abc wait until you hear how many schools are using it as a his for can center piece to their curricula. professor jonathan turley has the stung details for us next. e) - [narrator] what if there was a hearing aid that could keep up with you? (notification dings) this is jabra enhance select. it's a smart hearing solution that makes hearing aids more convenient and less expensive. it connects with your phone so you can stream calls and music. with jabra enhance select's premium package, better hearing doesn't have to start in a doctor's office. it starts with a free online hearing test you could take almost anywhere, so you can get your hearing aids custom programed for you

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♪ >> laura: reading, writing and reparations? first reported by my next guest professor jonathan turley we're learning some high school math and history classes may now include racial justice. the 4-week program created by boston school teachers as part of the 1619 project will ask students to a apply math skills, research historical wealth gaps and evaluate whether they think reparations should be paid. it's unclear how many schools will pick this up but we do know that thousands of teachers across the country are using the 1619 project already in some way in the classrooms. to give you a better sense to

see how pervasive this is. >> last week in prime time abc broadcast the 1619 broadcast's three hour special and broadcast it in its entirety. >> the case for reparations began with slavery but it does not end there. decade after decade it continues to accrue. >> the policies that created the racial wealth gap so the federal government has the obligation to take the steps to eliminate the racial wealth gap. >> why is this controversial? >> laura: joining me now jon than turley professor of constitutional law at george washington university fox news contributor. professor, they want to make this to be -- it's like climate change or any other issues they want to take on off the table. you can't debate this correct anymore? to do so itself is racially charged. >> well, that's the problem. i think reparations are an

important issue to debate. i mean, it's something that you can have in a social studies class and have some interesting discussion. but when you look at some of this material, it doesn't seem like they're going to have that discussion. in this case they're trying to get students in math class to just figure out is the appropriate amount of money to be given in reparations. you just had a biden appointee go to the united states nations and ask the united nations to try to compel or work towards reparations in the united states. and all of this is getting rather ahead of our skies because there are legal issues e but also the majority of americans don't support reparations. in fact this particular project, this citing a house bill, democratic bill is going nowhere because it doesn't have enough support and what you're seeing is this push to sort of normalize this demand. before we have that national debate, as to really should

reparations, in terms of monetary reparations being demanded in states like california be given. there was a bill put into congress by democrats demanding $14 trillion of reparations. i mean before we get to that, i think we probably should have that national debate. >> well, let alone the problem that quest regarding the research that supposedly went into the 1619 project which has themselves been widely reported both by liberals and conservatives i might add. >> right, the queen19 project was criticized by historians because it suggested that the american revolution was primarily motivated is a conflict over slavery. that's not true. and there were corrections made in the 1619 project, but it still received the pugh itser prize. but the point here is not that

it's unreasonably for students to talk about reparations. it's how it's being taught and whether it is it's truly being debated. i'm a big beaver in public education. my daughter graduated today from a plumber and we're very happy with her public education. but people are leaving publications in droves, an exodus going on, because they don't feel like their children is given an education as opposed to an indoctrination. >> i think many teens are aware of being branded or even worse. this is a free topic and we're for free speech and debate so great to have you on >> how one reporter kept a fan at arm's length. the last bite explains.

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