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this comes on the same day as the current president has been accused of taking $5 million in bribes while vice president from ukraine. bad day for america. that's all for tonight. harris faulkner is up next. good luck, everybody. >> the justice department has just indicted former president donald trump over his handling of classified documents after he left office, the former president announced the news just moments ago himself in a post on truth social. the corrupt biden administration has informed my attorneys that i've been indicted, seemingly over the boxes hoax, even though joe biden has boxes at university of delaware, additional box in chinatown, d.c., and even more boxes at the
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university of pennsylvania, and documents strewn all over his garage floor where he parks his corvette and which is secured by only a garage door that's paper thin and open most of the time. trump also said he's been summoned to appear at the federal courthouse in miami, florida, next tuesday. another quote, i never thought it was possible that such a thing could happen to a former president of the united states. i am an innocent man, he added. this is indeed a dark day for the united states of america. matthew whitaker is the former acting attorney general under former president trump. he joins me now with reaction. first of all, just your initial reaction to what the former president just said. this is a dark day for this nation. >> harris, good to be with you. it's a really sad day for our country. if you believe in the rule of law, if you believe in equal justice under the law, this should concern you, because, you know, we have what appears to be
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a completely political prosecution of the former president, the current leader for the republican nomination, and, you know, was a rush to get him indicted. you know, you look at the other cases, compare this to hunter biden's case, joe biden's case, vice president pence's, and even, you know, hillary clinton. i can't see how the department of justice isn't explaining why they're doing this case and none of these other cases that i just mentioned. it's a really sad day, harrison, and it's the stuff of banana republics, quite frankly. >> you know, i have to point identity what the former president is -- point out what the former president is saying about the garage with the papers strewn over, the lack of security at a current president's home. all of that is true. we have pictures of where the corvette was parked. we know they found documents that weren't even told to the american public, to anybody
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outside the biden circle for months after they had been first found at the penn wartton -- university penn with his name on it, that place at the campus. then two of his homes. it was like an easter egg hunt there were more documents. the president isn't wrong about complaining about it, saying this isn't unfair. >> no. and president trump was president, he could have declassified these documents. that's going to have to be litigated now, i guess. also they were negotiating with the national archives, trying to resolve this situation. so it's very frustrating, i'm sure, for the president and his team to think they were resolving this presidential records issue, and all of a sudden the fbi comes in and raids, and now we have a special counsel appointed by biden's attorney general, really doing political work under the auspices of as special prosecutor. you know, it's very concerning. you know, i join a lot of
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americans that kind of have a sinking feeling that this may be, you know, the best days of the united states may be behind us if this is our political climate will be. >> you mentioned that he could have declassified those documents. do you know why he wouldn't have done that? >> yeah, i don't. i think, again, it was my understanding that the special counsel put witnesses in front of the grand jury that said that donald trump had declassified certain documents, especially the ones that were, you know, in the presidential residence at the white house. you know, again, each one of these documents will have a story. each one of those these documents, the federal government is going to have explain to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that president trump couldn't have had these, and shouldn't have had these, and it was illegal for him to have them. again, we haven't seen the indictment yet. we're told, i guess, there's seven counts. i think a lot of it is going to be in what's the indictment says, and then what the evidence shows. >> are you surprised -- because
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the president says he was first notified less than 36 hours ago. are you surprised by the speed with which we found out about the indictment? how does this normally work? when you say it's a dark day for america, give us an exception to the normalities that you see. >> well, first of all, the speed with which this investigation happened. you know, again, we have the hunter biden investigation, 4 1/2 years, nothing has happened. we have this recent alleged bribery case, when vice president biden, then vice president biden, allegedly received $5 million, and that's been languishing for years. you know, it seems like when republicans, especially donald trump, is under the wheel of investigation, that they do it with posthaste, and throw resources on it. it's a two-tiered system of justice, harris. we've talked about this before, but this is just another example. i think it's the worst example
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yet of that two-tier system of justice. >> matthew, before we move on here, i have to ask, what's he facing? we don't know the seven counts, but you know enough about this case, know enough about what would have been there, because we've seen pictures of the documents. i mean, some of them look rather staged. we've seen some of this. we know the president has talked about it. so what could he be facing? >> yeah. well, unfortunately, a lot of this is going to be tried in the press. we'll see leaks, continued leaks, from the special counsel on what they believe their evidence is. so, you know, what he's facing, you know, a public trial ultimately. you know, i think donald trump seems to always get stronger when challenged. these type of things that would normally melt an average human being i think give him strength, and he continues to fight. the question i have, why do we continue to have these persecutions? the russia hoax is a prime example, where they threw all the resources they possibly could, and tried to prove anything they possibly could,
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and never got a single charge out of that against donald trump. i see this as another example of that, where the department of justice is for some reason, probably because donald trump isn't beholding to anybody, and can actually, you know, take this country in a better and improved direction, that that's why they're going after him, because they want to stop him in the swamp and the people that live in it are real and don't like donald trump. >> harris: do you think he has the legal team around him at this point that can handle all of this? do you see him bolstering that at all? would you want to be on it? >> i spent a lot of time with president trump. i saw him in iowa last week. he'll have to determine whether he has the right people in the right positions, you know, ultimately that's his decision. you know, i -- i -- i would do anything to help donald trump. right now i'm not. you know, i'm going to come on fox news and other channels just to make sure the american people understand what this case is really about. >> matthew whitaker, former acting attorney general under the former president who's been
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indicted tonight, thank you very much. i want to bring in now victor davis hanson from the hoover institution. matthew whitaker just said something i want to start with. he said, you know, what we found out about the fbi investigation into president trump was a hoax, but it was worse than that, victor. we found out they had been politicized, weaponizing things against this former president from the top levels of the fbi. your thoughts. >> that's exactly right, harris. it's even worse than that, because we know now that hillary clinton hired a foreign national, which is a felony to work on a campaign, and she hid those payments to christopher steel through the dnc, perkins coie, and destroyed materials under subpoena, and there was no fbi reaction at all. we know that james comey knew that the dossier was fraudulent, because he offered his -- his agency offered a million dollars to find one credible iota of
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evidence, and when they couldn't do it, he presented it as evidence successfully to get a writ. this is a sad day, because what it does, harris, it destroys all the credibility of the united states as a moral arbiter of democracy and constitutional government. how can we tell anybody in asia or africa or south america what they should be doing as far as jurisprudence and the rule of law. every aspect of this biden-trump is asymmetrical. trump was president, had the documents only less than two years. joe biden knew that he had them for six years, and never told anybody, nobody did anything about them. mar-a-lago is more secure than joe biden's garage. donald trump doesn't have a son who is erratic, trying to weaponize or capitalize the knowledge of his father about government and his future
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protectory. it's outrageous. i don't know what's going to happen, but i think it will be a baton relay. it's designed to destroy the person who's leading in the polls against joe biden. that's what countries abroad do that are unstable and corrupt. the existing administration uses the power of government to indict his likely opponent or possible opponent in the next election. >> harris: talk to me about the players in this. you mentioned a lot of names at the fbi, the previous investigations, but we don't know as much about the current, you know, team looking at this. what we do know is that the documents, as you said, were there for two years, and that there were some sort of cooperation going on at the beginning of this between the former president and those people who were investigating. >> yeah, i think that's right. what's really happened in the biden administration, they are
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using the power of special counsel for political purposes. this is the second time they've done it. remember, we got robert mueller, because james comey leaked a private conversation with the president of the united states, used a third party, so that the media sensationalism would prompt a special counsel, who just happened to be robert mueller, a former acquaintance, and then he ate up 22 months for nothing of the trump administration. now we're doing a replay with this special counsel. this is even more egregious, because, again, we have the president of the united states who did the same thing, but to a greater degree, and this special counsel -- or the other special counsel doesn't seem to be saying anything. i'm really worried about the reputation of the government abroad, but half the country has lost faith in the integrity of the united states government. that's very dangerous in a democracy. very dangerous. >> harris: you know, it may be more than that. i think that this is equal political opportunity in terms
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of how people perceive things. we started with matthew whitaker saying if you care about justice it involves every american. so it shouldn't matter how you vote when you look at this. >> it shouldn't. it's a long pattern, though. we saw 120 days of riot and destruction and arson, 14,000 people arrested in 2020, 35 people killed, 1500 police officers, and really there was no reaction. most of those people were let go. then we jumped january 6th into an existential insurrection, and 20,000 police on the streets of washington, militarized. all of these things are asymmetrical. one party tries to destroy the opposition, and they've been doing that systemically. they did it with russian disinformation, on the hoax, the
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laptop, and they won't stop. i don't know how to stop them. americans are looking at this and saying, how do we bring back integrity to the government. all the left seems to understand is tit for tat. are we going to have a new republican administration come in and say, you know what, the only thing these people understand is like kind. if we get into that cycle, another going to descend into a mobocracy. >> you're looking to inform the future of other nations, a cautionary tale to go forward this way, because that back and forth is something we've been seeing as the two sides go against each other. politically it's gotten nastier, more divided along the way, but this is a new level. victor, a last word, to compare history to where we are now, if you can, are we able to hold together as a republic? that's the big question right now, with this hanging in the balance, when current president faces something similar but treated very differently in
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biden as opposed to a former president. >> one thing we could see is that this other special counsel says, you know what, we live by the rule of law. what the biden family did in monetizing their member joe biden, who was vice president, likely a candidate for president, they made a lot of money, we'll have a full-fledged investigation, and have to apply the same standards to the papers taken out by vice president biden. that will restore some >> harris: we have lost victor. he stayed with us technologically, as long as he could. thank you, victor, if you can still hear me. i want toko to kevin corke, our correspondent working on this in washington, d.c., and again former president donald trump indicted for having classified documents after he was president, and the handle of those. fox's kevin corke is here now
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with what is new in all of this. it's been less than an hour that we learned the information. kevin? >> good evening, harris. you're right. we're still tracking the story in a way that can be confusing, because we obviously haven't seen the indictments. we know that the former president faces at least seven counts related to mishandling of those documents, but, remember, we've been reading for some time now this may be under the espionage act when there is a plausible legal argument that you can say this should fall under presidential records, making this an unusual way to go with respect to an actual arrest, a process crime run amok is what some critics have argued. let me tell you what's going to happen. on tuesday, the president will be in federal court in miami. he will intraa plea of not guilty, we presume, or one of those his representatives will do as much. it's interesting. at that time he will not only be booked and processed, he will be
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formally arrested and appear before a judge. we are talking about an image, harris, that no one, who's grown up in this country, thought they would ever see, let alone most of us could ever even imagine, and yet here we are in 2023. however, as i've heard from other sources that i've been on the phone with tonight, the president, we understand, intends to fight this vigorously. his legal team has said -- this is not just a miscarriage of justice -- this is an attack on the american system, playing out negatively for many generations to come. i'll leave with you this. there's an old saying in washington, people have long knives and long memories. that's not a good thing if this continues to go this way. >> harris: we're less than 18 months out from an election, a new administration, all of that, whether it's a continuation of the incumbent, or whatever, it becomes new again after novembe. this is dangerously --
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politically dangerously close to the point where people begin to question everything now. >> right. >> harris: i can understand what matt whitaker said, we've got to make sure things are equal. kevin corke, thank you. >> you bet. >> harris: the republican investigation into joe biden for his alleged involvement in a bribery scheme, hours later on the same day, the biden doj indicted leading presidential candidate donald trump. we'll get into whether that feels or seems, or could be connected. house republicans say evidence contained in an fbi document shows the nation's 46th president is now at the center of some pressure for the truth about millions of dollars that he received as bribes. and the fbi needs to explain to the american people what was
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really going on with what looked like stalling. comer, the chairman of the house oversight, other republicans' efforts to get to the truth of what was going on with biden. just 72 hours ago, it was like this, when chairman comer joined me here. >> if christopher wray doesn't turn over that document, is he going to go to prison? >> well, that's up to christopher wray. i wouldn't be want to be held in contempt of congress, go to prison being the former head of the fbi. >> harris: all week chairman comer would not back down, and with the threat of a contempt complaint, punishable by prison, lo and behold, the documents appeared magically for house members to see just hours ago today. why not? they're not classified. is wray or somebody else at the fbi worried that chairman comer may find evidence in those documents that president biden was in part of a bribery crime?
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although the fbi was reportedly making changes to weed out politics from the leadership after the durham report proved a sham investigation against donald trump. but just because wray allowed the committee now to see that document does not mean he was not obstructing congress. wray may feel like he can get away with all this behavior, because that's the, quote, unquote, democracy we have now, where unelected fbi officials operate outside and above the law. they don't have to answer to members of congress. well, they do. but they're ignoring it. again, the material is unclassified. so technically every single american has the right to view it. comer could still force the fbi director to release the document wholly, but it's doubtful he's going to do that. why not? it's a mystery. just like it feels like a mystery why he has yet to subpoena any members of the biden family. i can tell you this, i asked him about it.
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he said those st. johns are coming. republicans have been in power for six months. you can see from this indictment with donald trump the clock is ticking, and that window for republicans to get to the bottom of things may be closing. tonight gop house members are spilling, however, what they saw in the materials, that the fbi has allowed them to view. they say the information is damning for president biden. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene says it involves ukraine and that energy company, bur burisma. another says it proves biden sold out our nation. biden was asked about her remarks earlier. >> the bribery allegation, congresswoman nancy mace there's evidence that you sold out the country. do you have a response to the
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congressional republicans? >> where's the money? i'm joking. it's a bunch of malarkey. >> harris: oh, my goodness, it's so not funny. he's joking. actually, the president asked a key question, where is the money? and when will republicans use their full power to find out where it went? it's remarkable that just hours after republicans made this finding biden's own justice department would indict biden's leading opponent in 2024. it's unprecedented. congresswoman nancy mays joins me now. first of all, you shook up the trees down on capitol hill today, and the president had to answer. your initial reaction to the indictment. >> well, this is unprecedented. what i'm feeling tonight -- i want to be very clear here. donald trump and i have had our ups and downs. i've been very clear about that over the last couple of years. i want the american people to know, to make no mistake, this is the executive branch tonight
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trying to take out their number one opponent for the presidency of the united states in 2024. and they have one standard for donald trump and another standard for everybody else in this thing. if you look at the documents that president biden had in his possession, in his garage, thousands of boxes god knows where in places across the country that we don't even know yet. hillary clinton having a server in her bathroom in her home with classified information on private email servers. everyone is held to a different standard but donald trump. joe biden just secured donald trump's nomination for republicans in 2024. >> harris: you do? why do you say that? >> looking at how they're treating him in one way versus everybody else. every time biden comes under the microscope, every time we show corruption by joe biden and his family there's an indictment on donald trump. when you look at the standard he
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has it's a double standard, a second tier of justice in this country. the american people want everybody to be treated the same. donald trump is no fan of mine. he primaried me last year. i'm not a shill, but i see this, how anapho unfair it's been. harris, i said this is going to happen on the day we either held in c contempt christopher wray. this is a banana republic. i can't believe this is happening. he's trying to take out his political opponents using the executive branch. that's what this is. >> harris: let's do the due diligence to balance the scales. you've seen the fbi document. remind the audience. first they couldn't find it. the director of the fbi said, hmm, we can't locate that. then they did. you're welcome to come over to
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the fbi and take a look at a redact one. come to our house to look at the stuff that's kind of there, and finally chairman comer flexed his muscle, and he said contempt of congress, punishable by prison. give us what you have. today you got to see that. what did you see? what's in that document? >> what i saw today was a very credible, very legitimate -- a source of information that showed bribery with joe biden and his son hunter biden. the details and information that we saw is more than $5 million. >> harris: each? >> each, $5 million each in this document. and what we saw was information -- i have more questions tonight than i have answers for the fbi. i want to know if it was investigated, how they're investigating it, did they subpoena emails? did they look at bank records? are they looking at the bank records not only of the biden family members, including joe biden and his son hunter, are they looking at the bank records
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of dozens and dozens of shell companies, because there's a reason -- and they bragged about it in this document -- said it would take 10 years to find the paper trail, the money trail, but it exists. we need to look at the bank records. i talked to an oversight committee today, and chairman comer, we need to subpoena more bank records. i want to go back to the treasury and look at the suspicious activity reports, compare the information we had then with the information we have now. it's really bad. it's the kind of thing, whether you're republican or democrat or not, if this isn't corruption, against the law, then it should be. we need to change the laws. >> harris: real quickly, i mentioned that the time is running short. i mean, this is evidence now tonight with this indictment of a former president, that you may not have the kind of time that you had up until now to slow roll whatever you're finding in the investigation. what kind of pressure does this put on republicans to get the evidence and speed up a timetable? >> well, i want to make sure i
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know that the timetable is short with 18 months until the election. i also want the american people to know we'll be methodical, that we're going to be thoughtful, that dea we'll do ie right way regardless of party. i've held republicans in contempt for not showing up. i want to make sure that we get it right, we follow the facts, in a methodical and thoughtful and factual manner, give the american people the truth and let them decide. >> harris: you don't really have 18 months, because you can bet democrats will early vote, some of those people like at the beginning of september. the time is short. congresswoman mace, it's a pleasure to get your perspective, talk about what's happening simultaneously with former president trump being indicted. thank you very much. >> thank you, harris. >> harris: how does former president trump plan to defend
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himself against the charges? we haven't seen the seven counts. that's coming up. elena, welcome. we're covering this breaking news. it's a drip-drip. we don't know the seven counts. have you been any indication of what he could be facing? >> i have, but of course i would never divulge privileged information. i'm an attorney first to the president. i'm sure it will be leaked, like everything else. i'm sure it will be forthcoming. the truth is i found out about this from a left wing newspaper before i heard about it through my own client, and i'm hear with him. so it's a disturbing state of affairs. i'm disappointed. i'm disappointed they would leak it before telling the person that received the indictment, but here we are. this is the america that we know. >> harris: wait a minute. are you saying that you weren't officially told? >> i'm not on this case, to be clear, but i was -- i did
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receive the news from a journalist first, and then confirmed it immediately after. but yeah, that tells you everything, right? >> harris: it says a lot. have you talked with the president tonight? >> yes, yes. >> harris: what is his mood right now? where is he in all of this? we saw the post on his truth social media platform. where's his head right now? >> well, it's not really a different day for president trump, right? this is something he's gone through unfortunately before. i would love to tell the world that he's shocked, upset. he's only sad for the country. i think that emboldens him, emboldens his base, emboldens the people that don't want to see a biden administration take over for another four years. we don't have that in us anymore. we are not recognizing america.
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this is not my america. i'm sure it's not your america. i just want a country where people are normally disputing issues normally having arguments, and have their day in court, are not predisposed to this kind of retribution and political interference and election interference. >> harris: i don't know if you heard our previous guest, but we were talking about the fact that this is like tumblers in a lock, that you will go from, you know, alvin bragg here, the manhattan da, you'll go to leticia james, you'll go down to miami. this is one thing after another. can you talk about that a little bit, like what's coming down the pike potentially? >> sure. i mean, these are cases, as my client calls them, witch-hunts, that we've been handling since 2016 for him. for me, i'm going on year three. we're used to this type of battle. it's a different battle. it's not just in the polls. it's not just about your policies. it's about fighting corrupt
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das, it's about fighting corrupt ags, like you mentioned. it's about people knowing they have judges on their side, and they won't have conversations about their lawsuits, about strengths and weaknesses, because they don't need to, because they have people in their pocket, there for political gain and animus. that's un-american. the truth of the matter is i hope for my profession we can take these indictments, go to court, show the evidence, show this is absolutely garbage, and go on a normal litigation track. i haven't seen that yet. >> harris: yeah. are you surprised that this came down? i don't know if you heard congresswoman nancy mace, who predicted this. she said, just watch, on the day that republicans on the house, on the oversight committee, would get that fbi document that would show some evidence, according to republicans on the hill, that this current president biden had committed
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acts of bribery to the tune of millions of dollars, along with his son hunter. she said, i would not be surprised, and predicted that it would happen on the same day they would get that document that we'd see an indictment. in fact, she was right. what's your reaction? >> look at the the shiny ball. that's what this is. look at the shiny ball. don't look over at what we're doing, what hillary did with her computer, where we're storing things, that biden has documents in chinatown or his son has a drug addiction and also got bribes, don't look at any of that. you know what we want to look at? our biggest fear. look at him and think he's a bad man. guess what. you're only emboldening his base and the american people. the american people are not stupid. they know what's happening. they'll see it and take it to the polls in '24. >> elena, are you planning to be with the president as he faces this in federal court on
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tuesday? >> that's not been decided yet. i'm not licensed in florida. as much as i would love to be there with him obviously i don't have that license. i'm with him now in bed minister. he's in good spirits. he's doing just fine. >> harris: as a viewing public, as a journalist, we say what is coming next in all of this, who's posturing, building toward the case, because we've seen him fight before. when he's fought it was leveraged against him. this is an ongoing thing, how he will handle this headwind. >> he has to take it procedurally at this point. it's almost a blessing that you get to now go in front of a judge instead of jack smith, an extreme left wing person. his wife is as well. and we know that they only
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presented the evidence they want to present in front of a grand jury. we don't get a chance to rebut, a chance to put donald trump in front of them and tell them exactly what happened. it's a blessing we can teach the american people what actually happened. >> harris: elena habba, thank you for your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> harris: fox news alert, president trump has been indicted by the doj. he just posted on truth social moments ago. let's watch together. >> our country is going to hell. they come after donald trump, weaponizing the justice department, weaponizing the fbi. we can't let this continue to go. it's ripping our country to shreds. we have such big problems, and this shouldn't be one of them. the whole thing is a hoax, like russia, russia, russia, like the
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fake dossier was a hockey. you saw the durham report, the mueller report. it was all a big hoax. you had two impeachments and they lost and we won. we had tremendous support. that was a hoax and a scam. now they're doing it again. it's just a continuation, seven years. i'm an innocent man. i did nothing wrong. we'll fight this out just like we've been fighting for seven years. it would be wonderful if we can devote our full time to making america great again. >> harris: steven miller is a former senior advisor to president trump. he joins me now. i'm looking down to read something here. it's a jim jordan's reaction to trump's indictment. it's a sad day for america. god bless president trump. thank you for joining me during the breaking news. there are people in the republican party now that seem to be coalescing around this former president. is it possible that democrats have just tipped pandora's box
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politically? >> well, i sure hope that's exactly what happens, that the whole of the republican party, the whole of the conservative movement, the whole of the country that cares about the rule of law coalesces president trump in this moment. let me first say on a personal note, as someone that was there with president trump, in 2016, flying all around the country, going state to state, serving in the white house every single day for all four years of the administration, this is a sad day for me personally, as someone who has so much affection and admiration for president trump, who's seen him up close and personal, what a heart he has for this country. i believe history will record today as the day that we cease to be a democratic republic and we game a people ruled by an unelected government bureaucracy. you have the department of justice deciding who can be president and who cannot be president. it is not a coincidence, as you talked about, that this comes out, this indictment comes out,
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on the same day that we have credible evidence of a bribery scheme that goes all the way up to joe biden. it's not a coincidence that this comes on the heels of a durham report showing how the department of justice tried to engineer a coup against a dual elected president of the -- dually elected president of the united states. it's a message saying we run the show, not you. this is our country, not yours. we make the decisions. we get to decide who runs this government. i truly believe that's what's at stake here. >> harris: stephen, you were with the president, you were next to him, you went around the country, you just explained all of that. did you glimpse any of this could be a possibility? i have to imagine millions of americans, no matter how they vote, are in shock tonight. >> sadly i did glimpse this kind of persecution would be a possibility, because i saw how he represented a mortal threat
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to the system of business that has governed this country, to the corrupt establishment that's allowed our foreign policy to give away our jobs and our security to china, that's erased our southern border, that's handed over our decision-making to international tribunals, to disintegrate before our very eyes. i knew those that profit off the system would do anything to stop him. the morris important question for every citizen watching tonight is this -- why are all the forces trying to destroy this country so hell-bent on stopping donald trump, so hell-bent on putting him in jail, so hell-bent on framing him as they have since the beginning of the russia hoax. i submit the answer, because if he gets back into the white house, he will stop them. >> harris: you know, i want to talk to you about that, because we have visited tonight with several people including the former acting attorney general
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under president trump. it is hard to fathom and heartbreaking to even consider that there would be a tit for tat, that we could as a country watch every time it changes hands politically, that it's this instead of leadership of this nation. can he do both if he were to get back in office? can he fend this off, those nonelected officials taking over and deciding justice for all in terms of who the president should be, but also lead the country in such a way that we don't continue in the cycle? >> i think in order for there to be a turning of the page, a return to normalcy, as the expression goes, there's going to have to be a complete cleaning house of the corrupt federal bureaucracy, the intelligence agencies, the security state. these are the same forces, as you reportedly on this network, the censorship on american speech online, interfering in a
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political process. the first thing that a president trump would do, the mission he would give to a new attorney general, to a new head of the fbi, new head of the cia, would be to say i'm going to give you a daily progress report on cleaning out everyone from your agency engaged in this. that's going to be the core mission. >> harris: should have been done after the durham report, part of the deal, that we'll get rid of what didn't go well. we're going to clean all that up. it has not happened obviously to the satisfaction of what you would anticipate it to look like on a night like tonight. >> this is about the democrat process. this is the last hope to have a country where the american people don't have the illusion of control but the reality of control.
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the that means electing a president who's going to impose discipline on the entirety of the security state in this country. remember, president trump has nothing left to lose. he has nothing left to lose. so all that's left to be done is to fight this battle and to reform this government. >> harris: real quickly, stephen, can he still campaign whale this is going on? he's got to go to miami. he has things coming up with cases. what's your opinion on that? >> well, that's the point, though, isn't it? this does interfere with his ability to campaign, it does interfere with his ability to criss-cross the country as he did so many times before. that is the point. he will fight through it. we will discover whether or not in this country there is indeed a triumph for the forces of good over the forces of repression that we've seen in recent weeks and months. >> martha: stephen miller, thank you very much for being with me for the breaking news. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> harris: we turn now to senator tim scott, running in the republican field for the
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nomination of the republican party for the white house against donald trump. senator, it's an awkward position to be in, but the bottom line is you're a republican. this was a republican president. look what's happened. your reaction. >> well, harris, more importantly i'm an american. let's look at what's happening to an american. more importantly, the republicans and democrats, red or blue, black or white, is this notion that our nation is the greatest nation on earth because lady justice has a blindfold on. that means republicans are not hunted and democrats are not protected. it means that we look at every single case based on the evidence. in america, every single person is presumed innocent. not guilty. what we've seen over the last several years is the weaponization of the department of justice against a former president. you don't have to be a republican to see injustice and want to fix it.
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you don't have to be a democrat to see injustice and want to fix it. you just have to be an american and stand up for the right thing. i don't care whether you're in my party or not in my party. i don't care if you look like me or not. the one thing that makes america the city on the hill is confidence in our justice system. today, what we see is a justice system where the scales are weighted. that seems to be the outcome of where we are today. as president of the united states, i would purge all of the injustices and impurities in our system so that every american can have confidence that they will be seen by the lady of justice with a blindfold on. the that is what we need in this nation. not more politicizing of the issues. >> harris: yeah. will you reach out, or have you reached out to the former
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president trump? >> i was sitting here, before i came on air, and this is the first time i've had an opportunity to have a conversation. i will certainly continue to pray for our nation, continue to pray that justice prevails. >> harris: senator scott, thank you for your time tonight. appreciate it. >> yes, ma'am. >> harris: good to hear from one of the candidates running against trump in all of this, because it potentially changes the race, you know, in terms of how much the former president might be able to get out on the trail. stephen miller said of course this will play a role in how the president can campaign at this point. also, as you heard from elena habba, his attorney, and others here, his former attorney general, matthew whitaker, that you will see a coalescing. they're hopeful of it, but you're already seeing it tonight of the gop coming around this, and republican voters coming around this, saying, wait a minute, let's take leer, let's support the former president.
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don't know how yet. that begins to, or if it does, have any effect on what's going to happen 18 months from now potentially with the election. we'll be watching all of it. i want to bring in pastor robert jeffers, who says the indictment will not affect trump's evangelical support. he texted trump moments ago. pastor, what did you say to the former president? >> there are millions of christians praying for him right now. they love president trump. he's the most pro-life, pro-religious president in history. i also said, he's immunized against any indictment because of the durham report. the durham report showed that the russian investigation was a complete hoax and political. look, harris, we've seen this over the last seven years, since the time he descended the effect later in trump tower.
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they want to remove him out of office. the same thing is happening right now. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that the left looks at trump's polls increasing. he is going to be the gop nominee as nancy mace said. i'll go one step further. they know he will be the next president of the united states. they know they can't defeat him at the ballot box, so the biden administration knowing they've got a weak and perhaps corrupt president, they'll try to keep him out of office another way. i predict it's not going to work. i think evangelical christians will turn out in droves to support this president. i'm saying tonight, this is a reset. this is a reset. i think it's time for all evangelical christians, time for all republicans, to get behind a candidate who has the best chance of defeating biden and turn out in record numbers. >> harris: pastor jeffress, we
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lost a light today in the spiritual world, pat robertson. his lifetime was probably the first time that we had seen as a nation, he died today at 93. so this would have been decades in the making of infusing faith into politics. in fact, he's often credited with having put, you know, politics and religion together for christian conservatives in this country for the republican party. i want to get the reaction from you now, because you talk politics, you talk pulpit. i mean, these things are fusing together. the just your thoughts on today. >> well, pat robertson is known as a pioneer broadcaster, a former presidential candidate himself. he's known for melding the world of politics and the world of religion. remember, prior to 1979, when he started the christian coalition, most christians bought into the lie that faith in politics
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should be kept separate. pat robertson showed that our faith ought to impact everything we do, including how we vote. >> harris: pastor jeffress, blessings to you and your family. >> thank you, harris. >> harris: we're covering breaking news tone. the biden doj has indicted former president donald trump, seven counts. we don't know what's in there yet. we have his attorney on with us just a few minutes ago. we haven't found exactly what he's fighting. elena would never break that information, but she's concerned it might get leaked. i mean, we are in an interesting spot now. who would leak investigative information on a former president. how did we actually get here? the ceo of american majority joins me now. you and i started the week together. >> that's right. >> harris: i don't think either one of us thought we'd be in this spot.
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some people did. congresswoman nancy mace said this is exactly where we'd be. your reaction tonight. >> a couple thoughts, harris. this is absolutely late stage republic behavior using the legal system as a weapon against political opponents, you've abandoned the rule of law. you've abandoned the equal application of justice. i have to say i'm very skeptical about the timing of this. umm, i view this as a move by a politically motivated deeply corrupt doj bringing this indictment against trump the week we find out that joe biden has serious allegations about a potential $5 million bribe. joe biden, one of the biggest selling points he had in 2020, was a return to normalcy. now his doj is indicting his chief political opponent in 2024, something we haven't seen in the nearly 250 years of the history of this country. i would also say something else,
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harris, this is a much more fundamental issue, if we can cut out the noise and really focus on what i think this is about. this is a fundamental struggle between two very different governing philosophies in this country. one a very unconstitutional administrative state with powerful bureaucrats who think they decide and a battle to restore a constitution republic in which the duly-elected represents representatives of te that decide, and the administrative state view donald trump as a existential threat. that's why they're meddling. >> harris: thank you for joining you go during the breaking news. we have new information. we've been checking back and forth with our correspondent kevin corke. the trump indictment reportedly now involves the pool at mar-a-lago. prosecutors were suspicious after reports of a flood. our kevin corke has that part of our coverage tonight. kevin? >> unusual circumstance tonight,
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this being reported by another network. in this report, we understand that apparently an employee at mar-a-lago allegedly drained the residence pool, and in the process managed to understood the room where video surveillance equipment, we're talking about servers, were held and stored, flooding that room, which then appeared to damage the servers, thus eliminating the opportunity to go back and look at that video information. but if you look at it from the doj's perspective, they say that was suspicious. it happened a couple months after they were there. what's also unusual, is you may recall president trump made the argument that this place is secure. i have video surveillance of every square inch of mar-a-lago. he said something to that effect before, and shortly after the visit by the doj and the fbi. and so it is curious that this has happened. we continue to follow this element of the story, because that's part of what made the doj
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suspicious, it would also beg the question how would this help the former president? harris? >> harris: we don't know what the seven counts are. >> that's right. >> harris: i would say at this point we wait until we find out the details. we'll collect information along the way. i've learned in 27 years of doing this, you have no idea what's in the indictment as an outsider until it comes out. >> exactly right. >> harris: we'll take a peek when we can. kevin corke, thank you for updating us on that point. charlie hurt is a washington times opinion editor, and joins me with reaction to the trump indictment. charlie, you and i have talked many times about where america is right now. this is unsettling for people. and oftentimes when things like this happen, you bring such sobriety to the moment. what would you say to the american people about this moment that involves a former president and i argue a present one too because you can't ignore the classified document mishandling on the other side of
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the aisle by biden. >> no, you can't. i can't help but think that the timing of the two situations have to be related. you know, i guess the big picture here is, you know, you look at the last three elections we've been through, all three you've had the fbi and the department of justice intervene in those elections. and for people who think that -- and bought, by the way, in the 2020 election, the youtube argument, you know -- joe biden argument, that a vote for me will make the craziness stop. of course that didn't happen. that was a lie. things are crazier today than they were in the four years prior to 2020. but what is so alarming to me is when you look at the interference by the doj and by the fbi in our presidential elections, with each election that interference gets more and more dangerous. it gets more -- you know, if you
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go back to 2020, you had a sitting administration launch an investigation into a political opponent at the top of an election. >> harris: hmm. >> four years later, you had the sitting administration doing the same thing. and today you have an administration threatening to jail a political opponent to keep him from running for president. that's terrifying. >> harris: and anything you would offer up to the american people in terms of what to look for next? >> well, quite frankly, i mean the advice i would give is that ayou should get behind donald trump. i believe that what they are trying to -- if they are allowed to do to donald trump what they are doing, they will do it to anyone forever going forward. >> harris: charlie hurt, thank you. president trump responded to the indictment earlier this hour. we want to play that for you
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again, so you can see in his own words what he has to say. this was his video post on his own social platform truth social. let's watch. >> i'm an innocent man. i did nothing wrong. i'll fight just like we've been fighting for seven years. it would be wonderful if we could devote our full time to making america great again. >> harris: welcome toton" tonight" as we cover this breaking news. i'm getting word about what might be coming down the pike in miami. how does the president and his team prepare to go forward to face the justice department of the united states? >> you know, harris, the justice department has a lot of power. when i was an assistant u.s. attorney i was conscious of that. the credibility of the department is at stake. president trump and his attorneys will certainly do everything they can to cast doubt on the allegations, as
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they should. that's what good lawyers do, because the grand jury has only heard one side of this case so far. and i can't help but remember that when we, the american people, got one side of the russia allegations, people were calling for president trump to be put to death under espionage charges. pretty convenient that we have here again probably charges under the espionage act. what i'm worried about the department of justice's credibility at this point, and they should be worried about it. after all, you have a special counsel appointed by the attorney general who works for joe biden. president trump is running against joe biden as he did last time. so they should be doing everything they can to make sure they're extremely fair.
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it does not appear to be fair. therefore, i think that trump and his lawyers have a good case to make, that this is a potentially selective prosecution, and i expect we'll see a motion on that relatively soon. >> harris: can we talk about complicitly of other media for a moment? i believe senator tim scott said it, we've heard it more than once tonight, but i believe he said it first, you know, innocent until proven guilty. i'm not seeing a lot of that right now. with all of the mistakes and all of them from an agency like the fbi, that shouldn't be political, now you're saying that the doj possibly is going down that road too even some republicans who assumed that president trump was
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guilty. the media treating every anything else with glee and determined to believe that the walls were closing in, this is what's going to send president trump to prison. they don't seem to care about whether or not the charges are real, whether or not there's any evidence that forms the basis for these charges. that's what we should be asking. >> harris: well put. thank you very much. i want to round out this hour of coverage of the breaking news, with victor david hanson, bringing him back from the hoover institution to put things into perspective. victor, you did that so well. >> thank you. i think the american people are angry, of course. i mean, this is a the anniversary of d-day, americans died for this stuff. they died for equality under the law. they're also terrified.
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they don't know what the fbi or the cia, the doj, will not do. they feel they're capable of anything. they've had james comey feign amnesia, james clapper lie under oath, john brennan lie under oath, christopher wray almost risk going to jail to they had robert mueller feigning he didn't know anything. i guess they are just exasperated. these people, the irs, doj, what are they not capable of? they are scared. you cannot have a constitutional system of people who are scared of the government. that is what i am worried about. i think all of us if you testify for congress as one journalist did the irs has a note. this is not america. these people have weaponize and
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they are destroying piece by piece, bit by bit, something they didn't own. this came from our founders, 232 years ago. it wasn't theirs to destroy. they have hijacked this and are trying to destroy this country. i think the citizens are terrified. i never thought i would live to see that. >> it's interesting as you were talking i thought about something else that had happened. that was the assassination attempt on a u.s. justice. and the u.s. supreme court. with brett kavanaugh we saw doj that was just uninterested. i guess that is the right word. uninterested. >> yeah. that was probably a felony to affect an impending effect that they swore on clarence thomas. the doj did nothing. i never thought i would see mobsters and mobs going out in front of the supreme court justice private home and screaming and yelling to intimidate them so it would
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alter their judicial opinion. the doj staffed by lawyers. >> it is hard to miss. brett kavanaugh is a republican and a conservative. he is on that body. they are the scales of justice, blind scales of justice. people who are on the other side of the aisle don't have blinders on. they see that he is different than what they would prefer on the left side of the aisle. victor, thank you for being with me. sean hannity is now. and harris, thank you. great coverage tonight. welcome to hannity. we begin with the fox news alert. the 45th president of the united states the leading 20 tour 2024 candidate donald day trump has been indicted by the department of justice. for the first time in american history a sitting president's doj has indicted the top political rival ahead of a presidential campaign. here is donald trump just a few moments ago. take a look. very sadly we are a nati
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