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>> it is hard to miss. brett kavanaugh is a republican and a conservative. he is on that body. they are the scales of justice, blind scales of justice. people who are on the other side of the aisle don't have blinders on. they see that he is different than what they would prefer on the left side of the aisle. victor, thank you for being with me. sean hannity is now. and harris, thank you. great coverage tonight. welcome to hannity. we begin with the fox news alert. the 45th president of the united states the leading 20 tour 2024 candidate donald day trump has been indicted by the department of justice. for the first time in american history a sitting president's doj has indicted the top political rival ahead of a presidential campaign. here is donald trump just a few moments ago. take a look. very sadly we are a nation
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and yet they go after a popular president, a president that got more votes than any sitting president in the history of our country by far and did much better the second time in the election than the first. to go after him on a box hoax just like the russia hoax and all of the others. it's been going on for seven years. they cannot stop because its election interference at the highest level. there is never been anything like what has happened. i am an innocent man and an innocent person. they had the molar hoax, the mueller report. no collusion after two and a half years. that was settled by hillary clinton and democrats. this is what they do. this is what they do so well. if they would devote their energies to honesty and integrity it would be a lot better for our country. they could do a lot better and could do a lot of great things.
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>> now untruth social he also wrote, quote, the corrupt biden administration has informed my attorneys that i have been indicted seemingly over the hoax even though joe biden has 1800 boxes at the university of delaware. additional boxes in chinatown and dc, more boxes at the biden center and documents strewn all over his garage floor where he parks his corvette, which is secured by only a garage door that is paperthin and open much of the time. he continues, quote, i have been summoned to appear at the federal courthouse in miami on tuesday at 3:00 p.m. i never thought it possible that such a thing could happen to a former president of the united states who received far more many votes than any sitting president in the history of our country and is currently leading by far all candidates both democrat and republican in the polls of the 2024 presidential
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election. i am an innocent man. this is indeed a dark day for the united states of america. we are a country in serious and rapid decline. but together we will make america great again. president trump has been indicted on seven counts. that much we know. all related to his handling of the classified documents and quote process crimes, obstruction of justice. meanwhile, absently no charges against joe biden, even top-secret classified documents from as far back as his time as senator. that turned up in multiple locations utilized by joe including an unsecured office building in dc and biden's very own garage. apparently mishandling top-secret documents is okay if you are a biden or clinton or a democrat for that matter. hillary mishandled america's secrets on an unsecured private server that we were told was likely hacked by foreign countries. and then she attempted to cover
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her tracks by deleting 33,000 e-mails, wiping hard drives on computers off with something called bleach bit, acid washing the hard drives. and then of course destroying phones and blackberries with hammers and removing sim cards. according to jim comey no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges against hillary clinton. it is a very different story when it comes to trump. he is now facing multiple charges with the few documents from his own presidency stored in a secure room at mar-a-lago with a padlock on the door. by the way, i will say about this room, a room that the fbi previously had access to, unfettered access. and as a matter of fact had the opportunity to remove items if they wanted to. the only thing they requested was to put a second lock on the door, a padlock. that was complied with by the trump people at mar-a-lago. meanwhile joe biden can store similar documents in a box in a
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wide open garage and nobody seems to care. let's not forget about the 2016 allegations of bribery against joe biden from the, quote, trusted confidential human source that even the obama and biden administration ended up paying on occasion. according to foxnews.com this source detailed conversations with a executive to the fbi. this executive reportedly referred to hunter as dumb, but, quote, had to pay the bidens because ukrainian prosecutor was investigating teresa mata and it would be difficult. how difficult of would be to enter the u.s. market in the midst of that investigation. that was of course the very same ukrainian prosecutor prosecutor that biden ultimately demanded be fired by leveraging 1 billion taxpayer dollars. the source claimed that a biden by million-dollar payment was directed to joe biden and another $5 million patent to hunter biden.
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as foxnews.com reports, these payments were not direct payments. instead they were made, quote, through so many different bank accounts that investigators would not be able to unravel this for at least 10 years. now again, these are allegations made by a confidential human source. that is the 1023 form we have been talking about. they worked with the fbi for years and trusted by the fbi. the fbi paid this individual $200,000 for some of his intel and yet as far as we know the doj is not pursuing a case against joe biden, hunter biden, or anybody. instead it's the republican challenger donald trump who is now facing the wrath of the doj surrounding the storage of documents from his very own presidency. yes, it is a dark day in america. we have said it often. there is no equal justice. there is no equal application of our laws. there is one set of rules for democrats and another set of rules for donald trump and
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conservatives and anybody in his orbit. our system of justice has been weaponize to beyond belief and this country is in serious trouble. we will have breaking coverage of this indictment all throughout the hour and developments as they happen. let's begin with harvard law professor alan dershowitz who broke the book get trump and fox news legal analyst. they got him, it seems, professor. we don't have all the charges. we have four of seven. i'd like to get the specificity within the indictment as i am sure you would. >> this should be the strongest indictment, the strongest case ever brought against either a former president or potential presidential candidate vince richard nixon. if this doesn't meet the richard nixon test, remember richard nixon bribed and destroyed evidence. if this doesn't meet that test, if this is not the strongest case ever, then obviously this will be seen by the public.
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democrats and republicans alike as partisan justice designed to prevent the people from deciding who the next president should be and giving that decision over to judges, jurors and prosecutors. that's a violation of the rule of law, a violation of the constitution. i wait with baited breath to see whether the indictment in this case meets that very, very high standard of the strongest case in american history. if you are going after a man running against the incumbent president, it better be the strongest possible case. so far i have not seen evidence of that. >> new york times reporting, trump is charged with a total of seven counts including willfully retaining national defense secrets and violation of the espionage act making false statements and obstruction of justice conspiracy according to people familiar with the matter. on the surface of this, how do
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you not look at immediately beginning though right full comparison of hillary clinton and of course the top-secret classified information on her servers that we are told even they believe that foreign adversaries got a hold up. how do you compare it to that? how do you compare it to top-secret classified documents in four locations for joe biden if it is an obstruction charge? how do you say that 33,000 e-mails deleted and the destruction of devices with hammers is not some type of obstruction charge? how do now compare and contrast the treatment of two democrats and one republican? >> two systems of justice, sean. one for donald trump and one for everybody else. merrick garland, the attorney general, is criminalizing a civil dispute over documents that is governed exclusively by a civil statute, the presidential records act.
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that act means anything created during a presidency, whether it's classified or not, can be maintained by a former president, period. but instead of seeking an injunction, let's say, or production of records in a civil court and let the judge hash it out, garlic rated trump's home and then seated an indictment and indictment. it didn't matter that trump was following the very same standard established by the department of justice itself a decade ago in the bill clinton case who kept classified documents. that was a standard endorsed by a federal court in washington. the president can keep what he wants. but garland did not like that and he doesn't care about the law. so he abandoned his own precedent because it is donald trump. this is selective prosecution. it is unequal justice. yeah, it's okay for hilary to
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handle misclassified documents, no charges. for joe biden to do the same. but if donald trump does it, it's a high crime. >> what about the obvious comparisons, professor dershowitz? i don't think you would have supported charges for hilary or joe biden either, would you? >> no, i don't think we should be criminalizing these decisions to take either accidentally are deliberately material home. i believe every single president in my lifetime, every single president, has taken some classified material with them. remember, a president does not have to cooperate with people he believes are trying to get him. you have to show that he crossed the line into criminal obstruction that they are entitled to be tough and play hardball. i am not cooperating and pleading the fifth, the fourth and the sixth. i am getting tough lawyers and we will fight this.
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you don't have to be joe biden and roll over and cooperate with the government. it is no crime to be tough and to resist. you have to show there was a corrupt motive. if former president trump believes he had classified material before he left the white house than he has no obligation to turn them over to the archives. i agree with greg. this is a civil case that should have been resolved civilly. this better pass a very high standard if we are going to accept the administration going after people who are running against them. you know how serious that is when you have one administration criminalizing the actions of the person who threatens to undo the administration, to make sure that merrick garland doesn't hold onto his job and the people have to adjust. you have to have the highest standards. that's why i call it the innocent standard. they went after richard nixon
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not because the democrats wanted him out of office, but his own party the republicans believed he had obstructed justice. let's see if this gets bipartisan support. >> greg, in light of the report that came out and all the real malfeasance that was described in that report, everything from the double standard in terms of how they treated hillary clinton versus what they did with donald trump and how this case never ever should have been open. operation crossfire hurricane. you have the entire media mob like we have going on as we speak. you have every left-winger in the country celebrating, happy, et cetera. all of that, all of those lies told on all of those networks broadcast and cable and of course the washington post and new york times, they got it all wrong. it never should have been opened. no apologies, no corrections and no new oversight.
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no changes put in place to prevent something like that from happening again. that leads into the pre-debunking of the hunter biden laptop story by the fbi, which i would argue had an impact in the 2020 election. certainly, telling big tech companies that you might be a victim of misinformation and it may be about hunter when they knew pretty damn well that the laptop would be leaked by rudy giuliani who was then donald trump's attorney and they knew they had a copy of the laptop that they had verified themselves. yet they are telling them if you read something about hunter, don't trust it. that's how that story got censored, isn't it? you would think after all that has come out after so much time, maybe they would think that we shouldn't be acting this way. but it seems like there is more arrogance than ever before. >> the doerun report was a indictment of corruption of the fbi to some extent the doj.
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corruption in the swamp runs deep. make no mistake, this is all merrick garland's doing. as i said the other day, the most partisan attorney general in history now together with a biased special counsel, jack smith, who has a history of abusing the law for political purposes. together, these unelected people are corruptly interfering in a presidential election. they are trying to eliminate joe biden's opponent while simultaneously protecting biden and his son. that's the only way that garland hangs on to power. he has derailed the case against his boss and his family influence peddling schemes, ignoring volumes of incriminating evidence that they sold out america to our nation's adversaries for millions of dollars in cash. how else do you explain a
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five-year investigation with no criminal charges? how do you explain how joe biden got so rich on a public servant's salary? >> all right, greg allen and alan dershowitz. thank you both. we check in with house oversight committee chairman james comer. the fbi director is now allowing his entire committee to few a document that includes allegations that president biden was involved in a bribery scheme with a foreign government. we now go to fox news correspondent kevin corke first. >> reporter: apparently we have james comer first. anyway, congressman calmer, thank you. let's talk about specifically you were just about to as of today or yesterday bring the director into contempt of congress. it became unnecessary because he finally gave in to your demand.
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my understanding is that this particular source that you cited in your original letter along with charles grassley is viewed as a very credible source. the allegation seems reel. they've had it since 2017. it deals specifically with the country ukraine and it talks about specific actions that joe biden might have taken in exchange for a lot of money. what specifically can you tell us? >> i can tell you that the fbi has had this since 2017. this particular 1023 that i was able to obtain access for my entire committee today, it is dated june 30th of 2020. you go back through the document and there are footnotes that reference two prior years. they were communicating with this paid informant for years. according to the fbi, this is one of the most highest paid,
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most respected, most trusted, most effective human informants. what we learned is what the whistleblowers told senator grassley all along. the fbi never investigated this. we did learn that attorney general bar, when he received this particular 1023 that was up for viewing today for the house oversight committee, he past of along to the u.s. attorney in delaware who was investigating hunter biden. remember, this 1023 didn't just implicate joe biden. it also implicated his son. what is interesting to me when i read the document was the fact that this was years before our work on the oversight committee brought out the fact that the biden family were using multiple banks and multiple shell companies to launder money from foreign nationals. no one knew about this back in 2020. this has only become a revelation since our committee has brought it to light in the
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last few months. no one knew about the shell companies. but it specifically says by their trusted human informant that the pay or of these bribes bragged that the way biden wanted the money distributed would be through so many banks that it would take investigators 10 years to track the money. i can tell you sean it has taken us a long time to track the money, but we are tracking the money. we are finding money from china and romania. we will find the money from ukraine. >> you believe there is a total of $10 million involved in all of this? this has been ongoing since 2017? the fbi has had this the whole time and have never done a full investigation into this? >> that is what it appears to be. what attorney general bar said is he past of along to the u.s. attorney in gent delaware. my theory is they had never even paid attention to this until the last two weeks.
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according to the fbi, when i had that private briefing with jamie raskin who had to feel uncomfortable sitting in there listening to all the information that we were receiving from the fbi, considering he led an impeachment of donald trump for simply asking about corruption in ukraine. the fbi is talking about all these credible accusations they have with respect to corruption and ukraine from the biden family. we believe that these banks will show that the money was laundered through shell companies, more shell companies. we are going to continue to try to subpoena the banks. we are looking for more shell companies. >> americans now watched hillary clinton with the top-secret classified information on her servers, but no prosecutor prosecuted. they watched, quote, obstruction
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by the deletion of 33,000 subpoena e-mails and the destruction of devices that might have had some of that information on them. nobody seemed to get upset or in any way, shape, manner or form. now you have four separate locations with top-secret information for joe biden. they raid mar-a-lago. they did not raid delaware. they did not read you pen. they didn't raid the beach house. it is mar-a-lago that was rated and donald trump gets charged for what seems like the exact same allegations. do you see much difference? >> no. look. joe biden has mishandled classified documents in a much more severe manner than donald trump ever mishandled classified documents. what we have learned about this form 1023, again, the fbi never investigated it. this is a pattern of the fbi not
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investigating anything with respect to biden. look at what they had with the dossier which was no credible source compared to what they had with the 1023 on joe biden from there most trusted credible source. i want you to think about this. two things. first of all, they wouldn't admit this document existed until senator grassley and i told christopher wray that we had already read the document from the whistleblower. then once i got to view the document it was apparent there were more documents. as early as monday when they gave me the briefing for 90 minutes the fbi tried to say there were no more documents. when we were negotiating last night on postponing this motion to hold him in contempt, they finally admitted there were more 1023's on biden and bribery and they will let me see these. we are making progress with the fbi. the fbi clearly has treated joe biden very differently than they are treating donald trump. but thankfully for the american
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people the house oversight committee is on top of this. we are uncovering the shell companies. these are thanks we will continue to push forward on. >> based on all these llc's that you see and the money being shifted around here, there and everywhere and the countries you have identified that the biden family was doing business with. you are right about the ukraine issue. joe bragged about leveraging a billion dollars and demanding a prosecutor be fired in six hours. the prosecutor was investigating his son and the company paying him a fortune, the energy giant. at the end of the day, my question to you, do you have any earthly idea how many millions of dollars we might be talking about between hunter and devon archer and joe biden and the nine family members that use they ultimately got payments as well including apparently grandkids? they must be very smart if they are getting some of the money as well?
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>> it is consistent but organized crime. you have racketeering, money laundering, bribery. i would estimate, sean, that we have uncovered $10 million. i would say that number could top out at $20 million plus win this is all said and done. we will continue to focus. we have more banks that we are focusing in on with subpoenas. the last thing, sean. think about this. according to william barr and the fbi this 1023 being passed to the u.s. attorney in delaware means that joe biden is currently under investigation for bribery by the u.s. attorney. i know that gets lost in translation, but that is what bill barr and the fbi said. that document is in the hands of the u.s. attorney in delaware. >> it is interesting that the doj charging president trump on this issue of classified documents, they haven't been
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particularly cooperative of the fbi and doj with your request for suspicious activity reports or the 1023 form. they have not been particularly cooperative and forthcoming with information. it has been like pulling teeth. we appreciate your time, sir. thank you. for the latest from the capitol we check in with kevin corke who is with us. the latest from they are? >> reporter: good evening. i want to give everybody a bit of a read cap. the former president of the united states charged with seven counts at least is our understanding. although we have not seen the document. the former president indicted on charges we are understanding at least according to some sources of obstruction of justice, false statements. he has now been ordered to appear in a miami courtroom on tuesday at 3:00 p.m. at that point he is expected to be officially arrested, booked, processed and then appear before a judge. at which point the former president is expected to enter a
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not guilty plea or a representative of him will do that for the judge. it is also important to note that the president is not just facing this circumstance by the biden doj. he is also facing an indictment in the state of new york. there is also an ongoing investigation in the state of georgia as well. this could be a political death by a thousand cuts or this will be the one thing that really gurwitz the former president and his supporters. at least that is how it is playing out in the nation's capitol. the former president indicted tonight. this is a groundbreaking day for the republic. he will wonder, does it get worse than this? there are others that would say this is absolutely the right thing to do. i can tell you this much, sean. and all my years of journalism and covering this city, never did i expect something like this to happen to our country. >> i never thought we would have three years of the media and all these prominent democrats telling what we find out in the
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durham report was outright lying to the american people. no apologies, no retractions, no changes to the way they do business. anyway, great report. thank you. we check in with the great one, the host of life liberty week nights and weekends sunday at 9:00 p.m. the top show on the network. mark a live-in. i will hand it to you. you have a lot to say. president trump is 76 years old. if the department of justice gets its way he will die in federal prison. just by one of these counts. conspiracy to obstruct justice which has a 20 year maximum sentence. this is a disgusting, disgusting mark on american history for the future to come by these bandits in the white house, by the democratic party that don't play fair anymore. they don't want to just win elections. they want to take control of the
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country. they want a one party rule. they have use the department of justice and the fbi to get what they want. merrick garland is a mob lawyer. that's what he is. jack reed is a rope soviet style prosecutor. the presidential records act is not a criminal statute. it was never intended to be. the espionage act of 1917 was passed under woodrow wilson, another corrupt president. woodrow wilson used it to go after his adversaries and they imprisoned 2000 people. i suppose over at the department of injustice and this clown prosecutor spent a lot of time at the head. they figured these laws could be used to try to trap drum. all of these obstruction issues that they claim were the former attorney general bill barr comes up here and all the formers coming on talking about obstruction. they have him on obstruction.
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there would be no obstruction issue of any kind, not in anybody's imagination had they not criminalized this case. this is a document case. a document case! where a president of the united states or a former president faces 100 years in federal prison! is this some kind of sick joke on the american people? joe biden says he never told them what to do. joe biden had to sign off on what is becoming a national archives case to have it go to the department of justice. who does he think he is lying to? the american people? this is a guy that has got documents from the time he was in the u.s. senate, for god's sakes, in his garage. i don't want to hear from the legal analyst the technicalities about false statements and obstruction. this should never have been a criminal case. willful retention of documents. what is the on willful retention of documents mean? they are throwing all these process crimes and all these
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crimes that grow out of the criminal investigation against trump. what did he do with the documents? did he sell them to the enemy? no! that's why we have an espionage act. not the trick the president. what did he do? did he burn them all? no! the government has all the documents back. there is no violation of the presidential records act at this point. but they throw the book at him. they make them testify. the attorneys under the crime fraud exemption to attorney-client privilege. that means he didn't have due process. his own lawyers were being subjected to interrogations. they had hundreds of in person people who testified in front of grand juries. thousands of collections of documents, for what? for what? they indict him today? they indict him today in miami. all of a sudden it's in miami. all of a sudden we have a florida grand jury because the
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moron in washington figured out that there are venue issues that could lose him his case. this guy, this prosecutor, he lost 8-0 in the u.s. supreme court when they overturned the conviction of the former governor of virginia because this jerk took a statute and expanded it. a jury in north carolina would not convict john edwards because this jerk took a campaign statute and expanded it. and he has taken this case and is undermining the country. he is interfering with a presidential election. let me be clear as jared said. the attorney general of the united states made this final decision. this is not the independent counsel statute. this is a special counsel appointed by the attorney general under under a department of justice regulation. this attorney general who pretends he is helen keller. he made the decision to indict
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the former president and they made the decision to interfere in this election. you want to talk about an insurrection? this is an insurrection. that is exactly what is going on here. let me go on. joe biden is the crookedest crook that has ever been in the oval office. everywhere we look there is a predicate for a special counsel. they want to appoint a special counsel even though it is compelled under the law and which they appointed this special counsel and you are not supposed to appoint a special counsel against your political opponent. you are supposed to appoint one in the case of biden. 20 shell corporations connaughton million dollars coming from the communist chinese military spread out among the family. no businesses to support this. endless meetings. endless meetings with the biden, with hunter biden's business partners.
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belinsky who ties joe biden to the crimes. mr. big, mr. 10%. what does biden say? where is the money? he is asking us. come and catch me if you can. the idea that this man is in under an criminal investigation and that they criminalized the document case to go after donald trump is sickening. i would say this to our fellow americans. don't be bamboozled by these cable channels and these fools who come on and tell you, he is not above the law. are you kidding me? democrat attorney general of new york, democrat prosecutor in manhattan, democrat prosecutor in atlanta. democrat attorney general in washington, d.c. what do you mean he is not above the law? there is no law. what is going on here is a disgusting disgrace. it is war on trump. it is war on the republican party. it is a war on the republic. the radical left is doing what
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the radical left does while they cover up for biden the way they covered up for hillary. if donald trump is to be charged like this, hillary clinton should have been charged with 10,000 counts of obstruction because that's how many e-mails she destroyed. and five counts of destroying cell phones because that's how many cell phones they destroyed. im done and i am sick of it! >> mark, many years ago you said to me and said in one of your books we are in a post- constitutional america. what you are describing here when you said they are the ones that are abusing the power, that they criminalized a little coal differences, that they weaponize the justice department. that is what you are saying. they love the term insurrection. you are saying that is them. they are not abiding by the law or abiding by the principle of
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equal justice or equal opportunity of the law. am i hearing you right? >> you are hearing me right. let me say this. what is today's date? june 8th. june 8th is the day of insurrection, not january 6th. a weaponize to u.s. attorney, a weaponize attorney general of the united states have unleashed the full force of the united states government against a former president, the leading republican nominee, to take on the existing president. we have never seen anything like this in the united states. we saw it under stalin. we have seen it in other autocracies and marxist regimes and fascist regimes in the third world. they have taken the united states of america and they have dragged us into a hellhole. this is embarrassing, humiliating. i will tell you something. there are tens of millions of us. you have crossed the rubicon twice, which has never been
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done. we will never forgive you. never ever! that is the bottom line. i am done! >> mark levine, thank you. we check in with fox contributor george washington law professor jonathan turley. we want to get your take on tonight's developments. >> well, we have to see this indictment in terms of what the specifics are. what we do know is that the justice department has gone with what are called the darlings of prosecutors. these are crimes that they bring quite often. they win quite often, alleging false statements, obstruction. those are cases that they tend to make. but really, the important thing is we are seeing if this statement has those aha moments. if this indictment is basically a bunch of close calls. i think there will be a great deal of recrimination. there have been leaks that they
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have cooperating attorneys, there are some tapes. we will have to see if that proves to be true. passed leaks have not proven to be true. at the end of the day, this is going to have a very strange trajectory legally and politically. it's going to be hard to get through a trial before the election. it is possible, but the trump team is likely to challenge some of these novel theories. the issues of what statute underlie the entire investigation, for example. but then there will be an odd political aspect. donald trump could use his mug shot as his campaign photo because it's going to outrage a lot of people. he can run on one presidential power that has never been used before and that is the power to self pardon. i think a president can indeed pardon himself. for people outraged, and you heard some of that emotion just now, this election could become
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a type of referendum on this criminal case. >> in other words, the country would be weighing in based on their votes. i agree with you in terms of timing. we know the new york case is scheduled to begin in the middle of the primary in march of next year. that is dead set in the middle of primary season. the obvious comparison, jonathan, we have talked at length about hillary clinton, top secret classified on her servers. you talk about a process crime or obstruction aspect to this or the espionage. they would all be applicable in her case. destruction of 33,000 e-mails. the destruction of devices with hampers. hammers. half the country is pretty evenly split looking at this saying, no reasonable prosecutor
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would prosecute except if your name is trump. if you look at joe biden, not one, not two, not three but four separate locations. the biden center, delaware, the university of delaware where he had his car, his beach house. we have yet to get specifics on what he has had. amazingly, there is a special counsel in the case of joe biden. we haven't heard word from him. we have no idea if a grand jury has been convened by him. i tend to think not or we would have heard something. americans i think are looking at this saying are we treating the clintons one way, the bidens one way and donald trump another way? on the surface it looks like we are. >> i think that is the few of many americans. what the department of justice will say is that they are charging conduct that shows intent. if you look at the profile on these crimes, they are
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interesting. if i was on the biden legal team i would be very uneasy right now to hear that they are mishandling counts. joe biden mishandled material for a much longer period and many more locations than did president trump. if i was biden's council i would be uneasy. that's one reason it will be the first thing we look to is how they thread this needle. if they are charging possession and retention of possession for it. of time, that would seem to implicate president biden. if they carve this out narrowly to try to focus on specific ax, separate from the possession, then there will be a concern that they were crafting this indictment not just to go for donald trump, but to miss president biden. those are some similar thanks we are looking at as we see what they actually have here. but the other problem as we look
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down the road is it will get very messy. you have the leading candidate for the presidency of the united states who is in the middle of a campaign. this court will be holding all types of hearings and it will have to make some scheduling decisions. that is going to be one of the most novel processes we have ever heard of. to what extent will the court accommodate a man who is running for president and could ultimately pardon himself? >> people forget that the doj is part of the executive branch. this is joe biden's doj. this is joe biden's ag. we have an ongoing investigation by jim jordan into whether or not the fbi is weaponize or politicized and the doj is being weaponize to. certainly, if you look and compare and contrast, the facts in the hillary clinton case are very, very similar except that
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we don't know any attempts to delete or destroy 33,000 e-mails or devices that might also have that information on them. or if you look at the location of joe biden and it goes back how many years? and the lack of importance if you compare the fact that mar-a-lago was rated but joe biden's homes were not and neither was hillary clinton's home rated. if you look at the warp speed by which they put this indictment together and compare that to any of the investigations involving hunter or joe biden or hillary clinton, there is no comparison, jonathan. i think the country rightly tonight should be asking whether or not our constitutional protections of equal justice and equal application of our laws are in effect any longer in this country. or was this an effort from a president and his supporters within his administration running is doj to use their very
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powerful positions to go after his top opponent heading into a presidential election year? these are deep, profound, impactful questions on the history of this country, jonathan. >> yeah. though should have weighed heavily with merrick garland. it is not just the decision of the special counsel. the attorney general also weighs in. those are real problems. the polls have shown that the majority of the public believes that the fbi has acted politically and has bias against trump and sum believe against republicans. that bias has been demonstrated. fbi officials have been removed for express bias leading part of the russian investigation. it doesn't help the optics to have james comey, the man who declined to prosecute hillary clinton, just a few days ago saying publicly it must be joe biden in the 2024 election.
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none of this is good for the country. it undermines the faith people have in the legal system. that's the reason on tuesday this indictment and what it contains is so important. if you look at the profile of the accounts we know of, it sounds like they are focusing on an alleged crimes that occurred in the later half of this process. they are focusing on very likely the movement of documents, failure to disclose and statements made. those happen to be the types of charges the doj loves. >> all right, jonathan, thank you. we appreciate it. we go to fox news contributor tommy from fox and news weekend, pete, pam bondi. we will start with your legal knowledge first and your take on the developments tonight. >> you know, sean, having gone to law school of course and
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reading our constitution it starts with we the people. that is what has been shredded tonight, our constitution. when i communicated with president trump earlier i told him we all stand with him and we have to. our country right now is broken. we are going to become an open wound for other countries to exploit and take advantage of as a result of this. as you said, this is about a document case and documents that he has the right to have. i don't think in any of our life times have we ever seen something like this. he is a former president. he is a candidate to be the next president of the united states and his opponent in this race has charged him with a federal crime. this is a very dark day for our country. we the people need to stand with donald trump tonight. >> let me get your take, tommy. >> yeah, i think like many
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americans i am watching this tonight and thinking i don't recognize my country. that is a very unsettling feeling. for those out there that are wondering how joe biden, who can't even stand on his own 2 feet, was going to get away with a reelection without debating and without really campaigning? here is your answer. he is going to weaponize the justice system or the injustice system as it seems more accurately as of late, to go against his top political rival. the average american is sitting here and they are watching this and feeling hopeless. they are feeling helpless. what could we possibly do to correct this and fix this problem especially when there is no coincidence here. this week we were finally getting information about the biden crime family. the house oversight was finally getting there and finally ready to put the nail in the coffin coffin. all of a sudden they go after donald j. trump again. november 2016 is when the vendetta against donald trump started and they have been doing everything they possibly good to
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get this man and it has all failed. this is their final attempt. their mayor may be more to come. the american people stand with donald trump. it shouldn't be democrat versus republican. the american people should stand behind our former president. >> pete, you cannot overstate the fact that we are in the middle of a presidential primary season. you can't overstate the fact that this is biden's department of justice. you can't overstate the fact that we are in the middle of investigations into the politicized doj is weaponize. you cannot overstep the fact that we had james comer talking about the very thing tommy mentioned. we seem on the precipice of breaking down and finding out more about joe biden's lies, that he had no knowledge or conversations with hunter or any family member about foreign business deals. that lie has been debunked. a lot of information has been coming out. we seem on the precipice of getting to that point. the question is how will most americans see that in what is
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the middle of the election season? >> they are going to see it as they are going after trump, but if they can get trump it means they can get you. they can get me. they can get all of us. he is standing in the way and that can sound like a campaign slogan, but it's true. he disrupted everything they were up to and they know a second term of trump is the overturning of the table, the exposing of everything they have done. i was on your program the night that alvin bragg brought the indictment. i will say it again. it's a terrible night for our republic, our constitution and justice system. as it pertains to the primary, republicans will rally around donald trump. i think every single republican nominee should be down in miami on tuesday night standing for justice in the country. saying, i maybe running for president. mike pence, tim scott, nikki haley, whoever, ron desantis.
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this is injustice. this should not stand. i don't think they have a chance now considering what trump is up against. this will only strengthen him. it's not about trump. it's about our system. he has been willing to expose it. they have targeted him. this will only serve to rally voters behind him in the republican nominee process. they realize what is at stake. everything mark levine laid out and gerrit laid out, all the lawyers laid out beautifully. it's the fragile nature of our republic. donald trump has said i will expose it and take it on. i will take the arrows. they are sending the entire weight of the federal government against him. if they can do that, they can do it to all of us. that is what is at stake. that's why i think it makes them stronger as a nominee. >> let's get pam's take on that. does this make him a stronger candidate? we saw the pole numbers rise when the rate at mar-a-lago happen.
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the same thing when the new york incident happened. does this strengthen his hand? especially in light of the durham report and how devastating it was and how it exposed the media lies for three years. it expose the adam schiffs of the world and the lies for three years. this never should have been opened. they talk about a direct double standard in the treatment of hillary clinton versus donald trump in that year. and now here we go again. in the minds i have got to imagine this begins to collectively come together that they want this guy politically speaking out of the picture. they want him done. do believe politically it strengthens him are hurts him? >> absolutely it strengthens. how many years have we've been talking about this? how many years has donald trump been fighting against the corrupt federal government? he will continue to fight and they know that. as a former prosecutor, these
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federal trials take a very, very long time to go to trial. they are going to do, i believe, everything in their power to try to tie his hands and get him to trial prior to the election. they are not going to be able to do that legally. if they do, it's a dark, dark day again for our justice system. look at the civil case they did. look at everything happening in new york. this is not the last of it, i don't think. they will continue to attack him from all angles, from the back, from the front and every way they can. but it is not going to work. the pole numbers will rise. he believes more than anything this is a dark day for america. what they are doing to him. if they can do this to him they can do this to anyone. he will fight like no other human bin because he loves our country. >> tommy, does this strengthen his political handle? >> it does within the republican party. bud shaw and i have the same concern i've had for months now.
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if republicans don't message this correctly, this will be lost on independence and even some democrats that are not happy with joe biden but are unsure if they will vote for donald trump again. it's incumbent on us to explain to the american people why this is so important. whether they like or dislike donald trump, it doesn't matter. they need to understand the gravity of the situation. i would say to the democrats and to joe biden specifically, what are you so afraid of? why are you so afraid to take on this man and a fair fight head to head? why do you have to do all these shenanigans and pull all this cockamamie bs because you won't confront the man head on? what are you so afraid of? you are cowards. take on the man fair and square and let the american people decide. >> that's pretty powerful. pete, you get the last word. you have two strong opinions to top. go ahead. >> bleach a bit, e-mails,
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tourism, hunter. if the problem is how do we tell the story, remind people what has been done. by the way, your life is worse off and the world is in chaos because donald trump is not at the helm and you handed it over to joe biden. this will strengthen him in the republican primary no doubt. then you make the case in the general. they are afraid of that. they are mortified of four years of what a trump who is not a political novice now would do to expose what they have been up to. >> all right. we appreciate it. thank you. good to see you as well. thank you. we go to fox news contributor tammy bruce. outnumbered co-host kayleigh mackanin he. we will rely on your legal expertise. what is your take on all the development so far and how does this play out? >> sean, the first time a sitting president has indicted his administration, we know this
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had to go up to merrick garland. we know when jim trustee and his lawyers came to washington, d.c. that meant they likely knew an indictment was on the horizon. this is something they might have wanted to appeal to the justice department. they wanted to meet with merrick garland. they knew this was coming. unless merrick garland is absent, this crossed his desk. did he inform president biden? we know this is the biden administration a political employee. they have now indicted his most likely presidential competitor. not only that, we have the comey standard. jim comey is now a partisan hack. we know that. he has been on tv and said this means donald trump might be wearing an ankle bracelet while he accepts the republican nomination. the same jim comey did not go after hillary clinton. in fact, he created a new standard called the reasonable prosecutor standard. he said even though there is
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evidence of wrongdoing under the law with hillary clinton with 33,000 e-mails, a reasonable prosecutor would not pursue this. under jim comey standards, a reasonable prosecutor would have to prove donald trump violated the law and this should be brought because it was so egregious that it is worth indicting a presidential candidate, perhaps a nominee of the republican party that meets the high standard. we haven't seen the indictment, but that's a very high standard, sean. >> yeah. let's get your take, tammy. >> i will never forget the few days after the midterms last year, joe biden at a live press conference statement asked about the fact that trump had made some hint that he might run again. joe biden stated that he would make sure that donald trump would not take power. he said specifically, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power. if he does run, making sure
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under the legitimate efforts of the constitution does not become the next president again. that was a confession at the moment that they were going to do whatever they needed to to stop donald trump from becoming the next president. forget the election. forget about the fact that it's the people of the united states, the sovereign that make that decision. this was a contemplated act. then of course the mar-a-lago raid itself was obviously meant for television. obviously meant to interfere with this coming election. on number of your guests have said it clearly tonight. this looks like it's about donald trump. it's never been about donald trump. it is about indicting and stopping his main political opponent. that person is the collection of the american people. it is the tens of millions, the 75 million that voted for him, that the same doj has been going
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after a supposedly domestic terrorist or extremist. this has been open. they have been sloppy about it. they have been overconfident. they haven't known win to stop. this is now the result. you will see issues about espionage and whether or not he could become the president. is that what biden was implying? the timing, you could have waited a couple days after the house got the fbi whistleblower evidence regarding the biden family. they didn't even bother to do that. this is so dramatically political, but also you want something unconstitutional, something that is interfering with an election, but more than that. willing to destroy the entire dynamic of our system, to punch in the face not just us, but washington and adams and jefferson and hamilton and everyone who came after.
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lincoln, everyone who died on the field at gettysburg to save this nation. that is who is being punched in the face right now. donald trump, thank god, he is willing to still stand for us and for this country, for her past and her future. this is the kind of guy he is. no matter who you are. if you are wobbling about him or just not sure, this vote now is about everyone, not just him. it shows you what they are afraid of. they are afraid of a future that is clear and that exposes them, but also remakes us again as the sovereign. that is what they cannot stand. >> you know, they started this criminalization of political differences. why do i believe if there is any adherence to any single standard , the people that will be suffering the most are going to be the bidens. it looks like that is coming to a quicker conclusion then we
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might have thought now. >> yeah, look. that is what i am interested in. the joe biden administration. it's the independent doj, right? we don't interfere in doj investigations except i will say i have great confidence in my son hunter. i am proud of my son hunter, which is a clear signal to doj to not go after my son hunter. doj is independent until hunter comes into play. not only that, joe biden admitted to pbs that part of the classified documents that he maintained by his corvette wheel or wherever they were in the various locations were documents from 1974, which were his time in the senate. he would have had to take them out as we discussed before and keep them. that is an egregious violation. one of the things i found interesting in the reporting. cnn clearly has someone at doj talking to them. they reported on this witness who apparently briefed both
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biden and trump on documents. that witness said while prosecutors in the trump case aggressively focused on his personal comments and the biden one they asked about mechanics. isn't that interesting? trump agreed they are aggressive. biden, it's just mechanics. >> we have to leave it there. we are out of time. thank you both. that's all the time we have left. laura is next. we will have more tomorrow night. thank you for being with us. i am laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle" from washington. earlier this evening the news came from the defendant himself donald trump. he told his millions of followers on true social that he would be indicted. and he is also being ordered to report to federal court in miami on tuesday by 3:00 p.m. the criminal indictment and the supporting filings against trump have yet to be officially unsealed, but we have been informed the seven counts in them include the willful retention of national
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