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panel and the doj, who were staffed by lawyers. >> i >> laughs. laughter it's hard to missd to s brad kavanaugh, a republican.a he's a conservative. he's on that bod y. they are the scales of justice, blind scales of justice. her si but people who are on the other side of the aisle don't have blindersdeof the a on. they see that he's different than what they would prefer. on left side of the aisle. victor, thank you very much for being with me. fosean hannity is now. >> all right. and harris, thank you. great coverage tonight. welcome to "hannity"great co. n. >> we begin tonight with this fox news alert, the 45th president of the united states, the leading 2024 candidate, donald j. trump has now been indicteeadind by joe biden's department of justice. now, been ind for the very first timn american history, a sitting president's doj has indicteds it his top political rival ahead of a presidentia tl campaign. re now, here is donald trump just a few moments ago. take just a look.e >> very sadly, we're a nation
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in decline, and yet they go after a popular president,identa a president that they got more votes than any sittinguntr president in the history of our country by far. byand then much better the seco time in the election than the first. and they go after hi gm on a bo, his house just like the russia, russia, russia hoax and all of the others. this has been going on for seven years. thing onand they can't stop bece it's election interference aeytv the highest level. there's never been anything like what's happened. i'm an innocener bee what t man. and i'm an innocent person. they had the mueller hoax, the mueller report an person., t came out. no collusion after two and a half years that was set up by hillary clinton and democrat . but this is what they do.s this is what they dowhaty do so. if they would devote their energies to honesty and integrity, they would be a lot better for our country. they could do a lot better. they could do a lo.t of great oa things.
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now, on true social, he also wrote, quote, the corrupt bidenn administration has informed my attorneys that i have been indicted has inf seemingly over the boxes hoax. even though joe biden has 850 boxes at the university of delaware additional boxes ines i chinatown in d.c., more boxes a at the eupen biden center and documents strewn all overr r his garage floor where he parks's corvetteette which is secured by only a garage door that is paper thin and open. >> much ofn the he continues quote i have been summoned to appea i havr at the federalsi courthouse in miami on tuesday at 3 p.m.. i never thought it possible that such a thing could happenfr to a former president of the united states who received i far more many votes than any sitting president in the histor vot y of our country and is currently leading by far all candidates both democrat and republican in the polls of
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the 2024 presidential election. i am an innocent. . this is indeed a dark day for the united states of america a y we are a country in serious and rapid decline. amn seriout together we will mae america great again. now president trump haert agains indicted on seven counts that much we know all related histhe cl handling of those classified documents and quote what we call process crimes, obstruction of justice. meanwhile, absolutely no charges charges against joe biden, even top secret classifiet jod docums from as far back as his time as senator that turned up ind ui multiple locations utilized n by joe, including an unsecurec office building in d.c.ured and biden' s own garage. apparently mishandling top secret documentsowrage. is. okay, if you're a biden or a clinton or i guess a democrat ,for that matter, hillary mishandled america's secrets on an unsecureary mishd privater coat we were told was likely hacked by foreign countries. and then she attempted to cover
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her tracks , deleting 33,000y emails, wiping hard drivesdeomeg on computers off with something called bleach bit kind of acidac ,the hard drives, and then, of hammse, destroying phones and blackberries with hammers and removing sim cards. but according to jim comey, no brinonable prosecutor would bring charges against hillary clinton. and of course, it is a very different when it comes to trump. he is now facing multiple chargehe is because of a few don documents from his own presidency stored a secure room at mar-a-lago with a padlockbout on. the door. by the way, i'll say about this is ai a room that the fb previously had access to unfettered had access and, as a matter of fact, had the opportunity to remove items ifrtunity they wanted to. the only thing they requestedy e was to putques a second lock on the door, a padlock that was complied with by, a padl the trp people down in mar-a-lago. meanwhile, joe biden can store mer documents in a box in
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a wide open garage. nobody seemspen gara to care. and let's not forget about the 2016 allegations of bribery against joe biden from the, quote, trusted confidential human source thaidentialt. even the obama-biden administration ended up bi. in on occasion according to foxnews.com, the source detailed conversations with a burismaxeci executive to the fbi. this executiveve reportedlyo hut referred to hunter as dumb, but, quote, haerd to paye bidens the bidens because ukrainian prosecutor viktor shokin wasg te investigating burisma and it would be difficultit it would be how difficult it would be to enter the u.s. market inha the midst of that investigation. and that was oation.f course tha same ukrainian prosecutor that biden ultimatelyme demanded be fired by leveraging 1 billion taxpayer dollars. th that a $5illion-d million payment was directed to joe bidenymen and another $5 million payment to hunter biden. but as fox news.com reports,
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these payments, they weren't direct payments.ead they instead, they were made, quote, through so many different bank accounts that investigators would not be able to unravel thiscounts at least ten years. now, again, these are allegations made by aal hum confidential human source. that'sansource. the 1023 form wa talking about, who has worked with the fbi forbothey trusted fbi. the fbi paid this individualbyhl $200,000 for some of his intel. intel. and yet, as far as we know, the doj is not pursuing a case . joe biden. hunter biden, the big guy or anybody. instea. ind, it is republicann challenger donald trump who is now facinchallengg the wrathf the doj surrounding the storage surr from his very own presidency. yes, it is a dark day in america. we've said it often. there's no equal justice. there's noice. equal applicatiof our laws. there's one set of rules for democratere isles fos, another s for donald trump and conservatives and anybody,
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especially in his orbit. our system of justice has now been weaponizet. d beyond belief,ountry and this country is in serious trouble. we're goiniousg to have breakine coverage of this indictment all throughout the hour and developments nt all they happen. but let's begin with harvard law professor alan dershowitz, o who wrote the book get trump and fox news legal analyst gregok g jarrett trial of the century author. well, they got him , it seems,, it professor. you knoweems, we don't have all the charges. we have four of the seven. i'd like to gewe have t the spey within the indictment, as i'm sure you would . this should be the strongest indictment, the strongest ever brought against either a former president or a potential presidential candidate since richard nixon. if candi this doesn't meet the r the richard nixon test. nixo, member richard nixonic you know, tried to destroy evidence. if this doesn't meet that test, that this is not the strongest case ever. y th then obviously, this will be seen by the public.
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democrats, republicans alike,ane as partisan justice designedputp to prevent the people from deciding who the next president shouldng be and giving that decision over to judges, juries and prosecutorsr to. that's a violation of the rule of law, violation of that. ed breaton so i wait with bated breath to see whether the indictmentts in this case meets that very, very high standard of the strongest case in american history. if you're going after a mat casu who's running against the incumbent president, it better be the strongest possiblembtident, i case so farv i haven't seen evidence of that . "new york times" gregg reporting trump is charged with a total of seven counts, including willfully retaining national defense secrets in violation of the espionage act e ,making false statements and obstruction of justice, according to people familiar the with the matter. so, you know, on the surface of
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this, how do you not how dodiatl you not look at immediatelyy begin the rifle comparison of hillary clinton and, of course, the top secret classified information on her serversd of n we're told that even they believed that foreign ve tha. ies got a hold how do you compare it to that? how do you compare itt to to documents top, secret classified documents in four locations forifie joe bides if it's an obstruction charge, e-mado you say the deletioargenf 33,000 emails and the destruction of devices with hammers is not some type of obstruction charge? and how dos isot som you how dot compare and contrast the treatment of two democrats and one republican, two systems of justice, sean, one for>> two donald trump and sice, sea one r everybody else, merrick garland, the attorney y general is criminalizing a civil dispute over documentsge that's governed exclusively by civil statutes, the presidential
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records act. >> that act means anything create actd during a presidency, whether it's classified or not, ca's classn maintained by a forr president. period. but instead of seeking an injunction, let's say, or productiond of of records in a c a civil court, let a judge hash it out. garland chose to bastardize the law by raiding trump's home and then seeking an indictment today. >> and it didn't mattendictment r that trump was following the very same standard establishedardd by the department of justice itself a decade ago when the depstice itthe bill clintot classified documents, that was a standard endorsed by a federal court in washington.th >> the president can keep what he want, but garland didn't like that. >> and he doesn't care about the law. eden >> so he abandoned his own precedent because it's donald trump. this is selective prosecution. it is unequa ye yeah, it's okay for hillary oka to mishandle classified.
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>> no charges for joe biden to do the same. but if donald trump does it, it's a hig >> w you know. what about the obvious comparisons, professorthe obvicr dershowitz? because i don't think you would for supported charges hillary or joe biden either, would you? be no i don't think we should be criminalizing these decisions to tak decisioe either accidentally or deliberately material. resident i believe that every single president in my lifetime, everin two has taken some type offied t serial with. and remember, a president doesn't have to cooperatremembet with people he believes are trying to get hie hem. you have to show that he crossed the line into criminal obstruction, that defendants are entitled to be tough and to hardball and to say, look, i'm not cooperating. i'm pleading the fifth, completely the fourth, i'm pleading the sixth. and the . g tough laws
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we're going to fight this. you don't have to be joe bidendl and roll over and cooperate with the government. it is no crimer and to be tough and to resist. you have to show that thereve a corrupt motive. and if president trump believes if biden material before he left the white house, then he had no obligatioen to turn themt over to the archives. so agree with greg. this is a civil case that should have been resolved civilly and this better pass a very high standard if we're going to acceptre goingthe administration after i who are running against them. you don't have serious thanst tt is when you have one administration criminalizing the action s of the person who threatens to undo the administration to uo to make sure that merrick garland doesn't hold onto his job. and th doesn'te people on top of the justice department don't hold onto their job. you have to have the highest standards. that's why i quote i the nixonn. standard. remember, they went after nixon, not because
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the democratent aftes wanted hid office, but because his own party, the republicans, believed that he had obstructed justice. let's see if thi he hads gets thi bipartisan support. th you know, greg, in light of the durham report that came outh and all the real malfeasance that was described in that report was, you know, everythinr from the double standard in terms of how they treated hillary clinto illaryn versus whattrum they did with donald trump, how this never, ever should have been open. operation crossfire, hurricane. you have the entirmee media mobe i'm sure like we have going on as we speak, you have every left winger in the country. they're celebrating, they're happy, etcbratin.. t but all of that, all of thosello lies told on, all of those networks, broadcast and cable, and, of course, you know, "the washington post", "new york times", they got it , thg. n never should have been open. no apologies, no correctionsd h no new oversight. no, no changes put in placet soe
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to prevent something like that from happening againth. and that leads into the pre bunking of the hunter bidenter laptop story by the fbi, which i would argue had an impact on the 2020 election. certainly you know, telling big tech companies that you might be hearing, you know you, mightn be a victim of misinformation and it may be about hunter when bout hunthey knew pretty well tt that laptop was going to be leaked by rudy giulianld bi, who was then donald trump's attorney, and they knew had a copy otrump's attornf that lat they had verified themselves. so yet they're tellinghad veri f you read something about hunter, don't trust it. and that's how that stordon'y censored, isn't it? you would think after all of this that has cometer out afteu much time, maybe they would shouk thate, we shouldn't be acting this way. but it seems likctine there's more arrogance than ever beforee . >> yeah, the durham report was a indictment of corruption at the fbi and to some extent the doj.
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but, you know, corruption inns the swamp runs deep. >> and make no mistake, this is all merrick garland is doing, as i said the other day, the most partisan general in history now, together with a biasedal special counsel, jack smith, who has a historyabn of abusing the law forg es political purposes. >> together these unelected people are corruptlyuptly in interfering in a presidential election. >> they're trying to eliminate i joe biden's opponent whilemina,e simultaneously protecting biden and his son. that's the only was son.y that garland hangs on to power. he has derailed the casewer.casa against his boss and his family's influence, peddlingnd c schemes, ignoring volumes of sch incriminating evidence that they sold out america to our so foradversersaries millions of dollars in cash. how? well , sean, you explain a five
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year investigation with nocrimil charges. and how do you explain how joer bidedo youn got so rich on a puc servant salary? >> all right. greg jarrett and alank you dershowitz, thank you both. we now check in with house we c comer.ommittee chairmanbo colmer. he had a big win today. the fbi director, christophe i r ray, is now allowing his entirec committee to view a document that includes allegations that president biden was involved in a bribery with a foreignent. government. we know we now go to fox news correspondent kevin corke. >> firstcorke fi. apparently, we have james calling first. okay. anyway, anyway, congressman colmer, thank you. and you know, let's talk aboutpa specific lee. you know, you were just about to as of today or yesterday brig bring the director, director wray, into contempt of congress t co. . it became unnecessary because he finally gave in to your
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demand. r de now, my understanding is that this particulamand is thatr sout you cited in your original letter with charles grassley is viewed as a very credible source. the allegationas as seems real. they apparently have had it since 2017. it deals specifically with thecl country of ukraine, and it talks about specific actionsghta that joe biden might have taken in exchange for a lot of money. exch specifically, can you tell us? >> well, i can tell you that the fbi has had this since 2017, this particular 1023 that i was able to grant access forso my entire committee today. it'sr dated june 30th of 2020. but when you go back through document and there are footnotes that referenceference to prior years. so they were communicating with this paid informant for years and according to the fbi,i this is one of the most highest paid mos the most most trusted,f
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effective human informants. so what we learned is whatol the whistleblowers told senator grassley all along, the fbi nevetorr investigated ti weis, but we did learn that attorney general, when he received this, this particular 1023 that was up for viewingtic today for the house oversight committee, he passed it aloneg.t to. the u.s. attorney in delaware who is investigating hunteeyr biden. and remember this, this 1023 didn't just implicate joe bidens . it also implicated his son.is so what's interesting to m sone when i read the document wase fa the fact that this was years before our worke on the oversight committee brought out the fact thaoversige the biden family were using multiple banks and multiple shel l to launder money from foreign nationals. anies tono one knew about this s 2020 with this is only become a realm of revelation since y becoour committee has broughtt
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to light in the last few months. so no one knew about theseies. shell companies. but it specifically saystruste by trusted human informant that the the pay the pair of these bribes bragged the way biden wanted the money distributed. it would be through so man money banks that it would take investigators ten years to trackd take i the money. and i can tell you, it's takengi us a long time to track the money, but we are tracking the money. we're finding money from china. we found money from romania. >> and we will find this moneywe from ukraine. ou so you believe there's a totalvn of $10 million involved in allhi of this? and this has bees?n ongoing sine 2017 and the fbi has had this the whole time. and they'vd thise never done a l investigation into this. this?that's that's what it appa to be. now, what attorney general barrs said, he passed it along. to the u.s. attorney in delaware. my theory, sean, that the u.s. attorney in delaware had never even really paid attention to this until the last
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two weeks. now, according to the fbi, when i had that private briefing unco jamie raskin, who had to feel uncomfortable sitting in there listening to all of thatttin there information thate being that we were receiving f from the fbi, considering he led an impeachmente of donaldr trump for simply asking about corruption in ukrainine, the fbi is talking about all these credible accusations they havehe with respect to corruption in ukraine from the biden famil y. we believe that that these banks will will will will show that they were that the money was laundered through shell companies more shell companies. so we're going to continue to to try to subpoenanks. the congressman. we're looking for more shell companies. yes. all right. americans now watch hillary clinton with top secrens now wt classified information on her servers and but nor prosecutorecutor will prosecute. they watch, quote, obstruction
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by the deletion of 33,000 subpoenaed emails and the destruction of devices thatmigh might have had some of that information on them. ome of tnobody seemed to get, y, upset or in any way shape, manner or form. now you've got four separate locations, top secret classified information with joe biden. okay they raid mar-a-lago. they didn't raid chappaqua. they didn't raid delawar e they didn't raid penn. they didn't raid the beachpe housn.ey didn'e. but it's donald trump that has mar-a-lago raided and donald trump that gets charged for what seems like the exact same allegations. >> do you see much differencoue no. look, joe biden has mishandled classified documents in a much more severe manner than donald trump ever mishandled. classified documents severe er w what we've learned about this form 1023 again, the fbi never n investigated it. igated but there's this is a pattern
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thanything not investigating i anything with respect to biden. you look at what they had with the steele dossie r, which was no credible source compared to whad t they have with this 1023 on joe biden fromoe their most trusted, credible source. and then, sean, i want you to think about this. ntou to thk aboutwo things. first of all, they wouldn't even admit that this documentum until senator grassley and i told christopher wraexy that wed had already read the document from the whistleblower. sohe docum once i got to view the document, it was apparent there were more documentt was an as early as monday when ga the briefing ford 90 minutes to try to say there were no more documents when we were negotiated last nightght op on postponing this this motionmn to hold them in contempt, they finally admitted there are more. fiy ad1020 threes on biden than bribery. and they're going to let me see those non and brw. so we're making progresswe with with the fbi. the fbi clearl are mg progy hasy joe biden very differently than. treating donald trump. but thankfully for the american
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people, the house oversight committee is on top of this. we're uncovering the banks coat's covering g the show. >> these are things that we will continue to push forward on based on all thesee ll yellow c's that you keep and the amount of money that's being shifted around here, there and everywhereth and theos number of countries that you've identified that the biden family doing business with. and you're right about the ukraine issue, because joe braggeoud about leveragingag $1,000,000,000. demanding a prosecutorged about be prosecutor be fired in 6 hours. prosecutor turnsor be fi out toe investigating his son and the company paying him a fortunany payie burisma, the a energy giant. so at the end of the day, m my question to you, do you have any earthlquestiy how many mills of dollars we might be talking about between hunter and devin archer and joe biden and the use nine family members that you say ultimately got payments as well? and including apparently grandkids? they must be working, must be very smarthey must if
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they're getting some of the money as well. well, it's it's consistent with organized crime. you've >> i got racketeering, you've got money laundering, you've got bribery. buketeerint i would estimate, se that we've already uncovered 10 million. e havei would say that number coud top out at that 20 million plusa when this is all said and done. we're going to continunde to we've got more banks that we're focusing in on with subpoenaanks thas. and just the last thing, sean. think about this. accordinthink abg to bill barr. and according the fbi, this 1023 being passed over to the u.s. attorney in delawar e means that joe biden is currently under investigatio biden in fory by a us attorney. now, i know that gets lost in translation, but that's what bill barr and the fbi said,. that that document is inn the hands the u.s. attorney in e delaware. >> i dt is interestingelawar tht the doj charging president trump on this issuef of classified documents. they haven't been particularly
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cooperative. the fbi and the doj, with your request, be it for suspiciousfo activity reports or this. r sus1023 form. they have not been particularly cooperative and forthcoming with information. and you've it's been like pulling teetd forthcthrmation.hp we appreciate your time, sir. thank you. now for the very latest fromre our capital, we check inwith with fox news correspondent kevin cork is withevin us. >> kevin, the latest from there. evening, sean. just wanorter: gt to give everyy a bit of a recap here. the former president of the united states chargedarge seven counts at least is our understanding, althougenh we hae not seen the document. the former president indicted on charges. we are understanding, at least according to some source dings, of obstruction of justice, false statements. heon o now been ordered to apper in a miami courtroom on tuesday at 3 p.m..po at thaint point, he is expected to be officially arrested, booked, processed and then appear before a judge. at which point the former president is expected to enter
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a no ectet guilty plea or a representative of him will do that for. the judge. it is also important to note that the president is not justmn facing this circumstance by the biden doj. he is also facing an indictment in the state of new york. there is also an ongoingte o investigation in the state of georgia as well. gea as could be a political death by a thousand cuts or this will be the one thing that really girds the former president and his supporters , or at least that's how it's playing out here in the nation's capital. again, the formerthe fo president indicted tonight. this is a groundbreaking dayside for the republic. people wonder, does it. get worse than this? there are others who would say this is absolutely the right i thing to do. i can tell you this much, sean,u and all my years oseanf journalm and covering this city. never did i expectand cove someg like this to happen to our country. >> back to you. thnever thought we'd have three years of the media. democt all these prominent democrats telling what we out in
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the durham report was outright lying to. we, the american people.n people no apologies, no retractions, go no changes to the way they do business. anyway way t, kevin, great repoe thank you. we check in now with the great one. i call him the great one.e he's the host of life libertyhot 9:vin weeknights weekends sunday at 9 p.m.. top show on the network. thtwork.the great one, mark lev. mark, i'll just hand it to you. i know you got a lot say olesident trump is 76 years old . if the department of justice gets his way, he will die in usti federaceie inl prison just by of these counts. conspiracy to obstruct justice,0 which has a 20 year maximum sentence. this is a disgusting, disgusting mark on american history fo, disgusr the future b by these bandits in the white t by the democrat party that thn't play fair anymore.
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they don't want to just win elections. they want to take control of this country. they wanof t party rule.e part and they have used the department of justice and the fbi to get what they want. jackick garland is mob lawyer. that's what he is. jack reed is a rogue soviet a rp thyle prosecutor. the presidential records act is not a criminae presidl statui and it was never intended to bec the espionage act of 1917 was passed under woodrow wilson, another corrup7 wat woodrow wil. used it to go after hisey adversaries and they imprisoned 2000 people. so i suppose over there at the department of justice in this, prosecutors spend a lot of time at the hague. they probablaty these laws coulo be used to try and entrap trump. all thesrae issues that they atey claim where the formeclr attorney general, bill barr, comes up here and bloviateal bih about it, and all the formers coming on talking about comi oobstruction they have him
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on obstruction, there'd be no obstruction issue of any kind b not even in anybody's imagination had they not issucriminalize this case. case. this is a document case attacking in case where a president of the united states or a former president faces 100 years in federal prison. pris some of a sick joke on the american people? joe biden says he never toldthea them what to do. joe biden had to sigt n on that becoming a national archives thse to have to go to the department of justice. >> who does he think he's lyinfg ? >> the american people. this is a guy that's got the tim documents from the time he was in the u.s. senate. for god sake washe u.s. s, in h. i don't want to hear from the legal analysts that technicalities about false statements and obstructione te. >> there should never have been a criminal case. crimn of documents. >> well, what's the on willful retention of documentss th mean? they're trying all these crimess crimes and all thesee
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to grow out of the criminal investigation against trump. what did he do with the documents? did he show them to the enemy? did heo the enno. that's why we have an espionage act, not a trick of a president. what did he do? did he burn them all? . the go the government has all the documents back, so there is n haso of the presidential records act at this point. bual recort they throw the book. they go after his attorneys. they make them testify.the their attorneys under the crime frauatd to attorney client privilege. that means did them due process. >> his own lawyers were beingpr subjecteocd to interrogations they ins ofd hundreds of person people testifying in front of grand juries,d ju thousands of collections of ? cuments for what >> for what?r wh and they indict them todayat. they indict them today in miami. all of a sudden, it'y in miami.. all of a sudden, we havewe have a florida grand jury because
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the in washington figured outro that there are venue issues that could lose him. his cases that. this this guy, this prosecutor, he lost 8 to 0 in the u.s. supreme court when they overturneder the of the former governor of virginia becauseia took a statute and expanded it. a jury in north carolina wouldn't convict john edwardsk k because this too ak a campaignst statute and, expanded it, and he's taken this case and he's undermining the country and he's interfering with a presidentialo . >> and let mn.e be clear. as jared said, the attorney general of the united states made this final decision. . this is not the independent counsel statute. this is a special counsela spec appointed by the attorney general underr un a department of justice regulation. this attorney generapartmentl who pretends he's helen keller. he made the decision helen to te
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former president and they made the decision and the to interfec this election. you want to talk about an .incorrect. this is an insurrection i and that's exactly what's going on here. >> let me go og onn. t >> joe biden is the crooked us crook that's ever been in the oval officthat hase. everywhere we look, there's a predicate for a special counsel. they won't appoint a special counsel, even though it's compellecounsed under the law in which they appointed this special counsel. u are and you're not supposed to appoint a special counsel againsnott your politicale su opponent. you're supposed to appoint one. in the case ofpp biden, 20 shamd corporations, $10 million coming from the communist chinese military spread outly among the family, no businesses to support this endless meetings, endless meetingssiness with with biden, with hunter biden's business partners, bobulinski, who ties joe biden to the crimes.
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mr. big mr. 10% and what. big, is biden say? e is the well, then where's the money? he's asking us, come in, catchan me if you can. the idea that this man is an under criminal investigation and that they criminalize that document case to go after donald trump is sickening. s >> and i would say thiics to oue don'ow americans, don't be bamboozled by these cable channelsboozled and these fools who come on and tell you, well, he's not above the law. >> are you kidding me? democrat attorney general in new york, democrat prosecutor in manhattan, democrat in atlanta, democrat attorney general in washingtonwt . what do you mean? he's not above the law? theru mean not ae is law. what's going on here is a disgusting disgrace.s wa it is war on trump. it is war on the republican party. and it is a war on a republic. rty.they radical left is doing t
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the radical left does whileen they cover up for biden the way they cover it up for hillary. if donald trump is to be charged like this, hillary clinton should have been charged, what, 10,000 counts oft obstruction because that's how manys of she destroyed and e counts of destroying cell phones because that's how many cell phones they destroyedce. a >> i'm done and i'm sick of it . what you said, mark, many years ago, you sai d to me and youbook said in one of your books, we're in a post constitutional americs we aa. >> and what you're describing here, when you said they are the ones that are the that are abusing the power, that they've criminalized political differences, thatze they weaponize the justice department. that's what you're saying. department.this they they love m insurrection. and you're saying that's them. u are sathey're not abiding by . they're not abiding by the principle of equal justice oral
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equal application of our laws. am i hearing you right the l? ? you're hearing me right. junelet me say thi ares. today, what is today's date? june 8th. june 8th is the day of insurrection, not january 6th. a weaponized u.s . attorney.. at a weaponized attorney general of the uniteweapond states have unleashed the full force of the united states government agains fof the t a former president, the leading republican nominee to takthe leade on the presiden. we have never seen anything like this in, the united states. we saw it under stalin. we've seen it in other autocracies, marxist regimes, i fascist regimes, the third world. but they have taken the uniteddh states of america and they have dragged us into a hole. . it is embarrassing. it's humiliating. and i'm going to telthis is ,l you something. they're tens of millions of us. you have crossed the rubicon twice, which is never beene you.
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done. and we will never forgive you. ner, ever. and that's the bottom line. i'm done. >> mark levin, thank you. all right.an wek you. in now with fox contrir george washington law professor y with us.urleox contr >> jonathan, i want to getet your take on tonight's developmentsour take. >> well, you know, we have to see this indictment in termse of what the specifics are. what we do knoifics arw is thatg the justice department has gone with what are called the darlings of prosecutoron. these are crimes that they bring. quite often they win quiteey win alleging false statements, obstructio qn those are cases they are they tend to to make. o but really, i think the important thing here is that we're seeing if this indictmentrtt thing w has those. moments, because, you know, if this indictment is basically a bunch of a sort of close calls, i think there's going to be a great deal of recrimination. >> se a eao there have been leah
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that they have cooperating attorney thes, that there are some tapes. we'll have to see if that we wife. eakstru past leaks have not provent pr to be true. but at the end of the day, this is going to have a very strange adjudicatory legally and politically. it'sly and going to be hard to t through a trial before the election. >> it'befores possible, but thep team is likely to challenge of these novel theories issues of what statute really underlie this entire investigation. for exampltatutee. >> but then there's going to be an odd political aspect. donald trump could well use hisd mug shot as his campaign photo because it's going to outrage a lot of people. and he can run on one presidential power that has never been used before and that is the power to self-pardon. i think a president can indeed pardon himself. you so for people outraged and you heard some of that emotion just noatw, this election could becoe
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a type of sort of referendum on this criminal case. the in other words, the country would be weighing in based on their votesountryin. i tend to agree with you in terms of timing. now, we know the the new york cas e is scheduled to begin right in the middle of the primary in marchof of nextad year. that's dead set in the middle of primary setmiddle season. you know, the the obvious comparisons, though, jonathan,ea i mean, we've talked at length about hillary clinton, top secret information on her servers. >> you talk about a process crime or obstruction aspect ors or the espionage. they would all be applicable, in her case, destructione appli0 33,000 emails, the destruction of devices with hammermails.s. and, you know, i think half the country, if you believe the country is pretty evenly split, is lookinountry ig at ths saying, oh, no, no, reasonable prosecutor would prosecute,
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except if your name is trump, or if you look at joe biden, noou look t one, not two, not tr four separate locations. the biden, penn center, delaware, the university of delaware, where he had his we house, you know, all with. and again, we've yet to get specificyefics ons on he's had. amazingly, there is a special counsel the case of joe biden. we haven't heard word one from him. we have no idea if him any grand jury has been convened by him. i tend to think not ors it woud have leaked or we would have heard something. aneard sometd americans, i thin rightly looking at this, saying, well, wait a minute, are we treating the clintons one way? biden'wes one way and donald trump another way? because on its surface, it looky?s like we are. >> i think that is going to be a view of many american eyes. i think what the department ofch justice is going to say is they arargie they're charging conduct that shows intent. if you look at the profile on these on these crimes,intere
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they're sort of interesting. if i was on the biden legal ifbide, i would be very uneasy right now to hear that there mishandling counts. joe bider that tn mishandled mal for a much longer period, manyon more locations than did president trump. >> so if i was pres biden's counsel, i'd be a little bit uneasy. >> and that's one ofthing the reasons that's going to be the first thing some of us look to is how theywe this needle. >> i mean, if they are charging and retention of possession for a period of time , that wouldo seem to implicate president biden. >> but if they carve this outarl narrowly to try to focus on specific acts a separate, from the possession, then that's goingte from to be a con that they were actually crafting this indictment, not just to go for donald trump, but to miss president biden. are so so those are some of the things we're going to be looking atmewe as we see what they actually have here.
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but the other problem was agodon to look down the road, sean, is this goind isg to get very. messy? >> you have the leading candidate fo r the presidency of the united states who is in the middle of a campaign. wil >> this court is going to betyp holding all types of hearings s and is going to have to makesc some scheduling decisions. that'scisions. going to be one f the most novel processes we've ever heard of. of. you know, to what extent w will the court accommodateha a man who's running for president and could ultimately pardon himself? you know, people forget that the doj is part of the executive branch. this is joe biden's doj. this is joe biden'thiss ag. you know, we have an ongoing investigation by jim jordan on the house judiciary committee into whether or not the fbi has weaponized or politicized and the doj is being weaponize d. certainly, if you look and yourt compare and you caainly,n trust, i mean, the facts in the hillary clinton case are
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very, very similar, except butan we don't know of any any attempts to delete or destroy 33,000 emails or devices that also have that information on them. or it alsoef look at the locatif joe biden and it goes back how many yearsgoes and the lack of importance. if you compare the fact that yo was raided but joe biden's homes were not and neither was hillary clinton's homes home raided.n's if you look at the the warp war speed, which they they put this indictment together and compare that to any of the investigations involving hunter or joe biden or hillary clinton. there's no comparison,. jonathan. and i think the country rightly tonight should be asking y itselfhether whether or not our constitutional protections of equal and equal application of our laws are, in effect, any longer in this country. t for froms an effor president and his supporters within his administration running hi s suppors doj to use
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their very powerful positions ar to go after his top opponent heading into a presidential election year? i mean, these are deep, profound, impactful questions on the history of this country jonathan. >> yeaof this countrh, and thos. weighed heavily with merrick garlanough shod. you know, it's not just the decision of the special counsel, the attorney genera del also weighs in.o >> and those arewe real. e poll >> i mean, the polls have shown that the majority of the public believes that the fbi has acted politically, has biased against trump. and some believe republicans. that bias has been demonstrated there have been fbi officials removed for express bias leading or part of the russian investigation. and it doesn't help the optics to have james comey, the man who declined to prosecute hillary clinton just a few days ago saying publicly it musty it be joe biden in the 2024
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election. >> none of this is good for the the country because it undermines the faith people country.have in the legal syste. that's the reason on tuesday, this indictment and what it contains is so important. >> if you look at the profilnten the counts we know of. >> it sounds like they areow focusing on alleged crimes that occurred in the latter half ofhs this process that they're focusingthey very likely the movement of documents, a failure to disclose in statements made. >> yeah, those happened to be the types of charges the doj loves. all right. jonathan turley, as always, thank you. we appreciat>> all, jonathe it. we go now to fox news contributor outkast, tomi lahren, fox and friends weekend co-host pete hegseth, former florida attorney general pam bondi. ga we'll start with your legal knowledge first and your take on the developments tonight. >> you, sean, having gone to law school, of course, and reading our constitution,
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and it starts with we the people, and that's what's been shredde id tonight, our constitution. and, you know, when i communicated with presiden t earlier, i told him we alltand ouand with him and we have to because our country right now is broken and we are going to become an open world for other countriewouns to and take advantage of as a result of this. >> advanta and as you said, this is about a document case that documents that he had the right to have. and never, i don't think, in ant thy of our lifetimes. sean, have we ever seen something like this. he is a former president. he is a candidat.e to be the next president of the united states and his opponent ipresidn this race has charged him with a federal with a fcrime. this is a very dark day fory fo our country. and we, the peopleou need to stand with donald trump tonight. those who may get your take, tommy. >> yeah, i think like many>> yea americans, i'm watching this
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tonight and i'm thinking tonin't recognize my country and. that is a very unsettling feeling. but for those out therry unsetit were wondering how joe biden, who can't even stand on his own two feet, was going to get away with a reelection without campte awa, without really campaigning. well, here is your answer. he's goingaigning? to weaponize the justice system or the injustice system, as it seem s more accurately, as ofs of late to go against his top political rival. e and the average american is sitting here and they're ifeelin watching this and they're feeling hopeless and they're feeling helpless. what could we possibly do thishiect this to fix this problem, especially when there's no coincidence herprobl this week, we were finally getting information about the biden crime familyn abth. oh the house oversight was finally getting they're finally ready to put thaytting tht nail in thn and then all of a sudden they go after donald trump agaiffin.n. november 2016. that's when this vendetta against donald trump started. h and they've been trying everything that they possibly
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could to get this ma hen. l it is all failed. and now this is their final s th more to come. but the american people stand with donald trump and it shouldn't be ay be morth democrs republican thing. the american people should stand with true justic eident. and stand behind our former president, pick. hat we you can't overstate the fact that we're in the middle of a presidential primary. ason. you can't overstate the fact that this is biden's departmens. justice. you can't overstate the fact that we're in the middle of investigations e into whether the fbi is politicized and the doj is weaponized. e you can't overstate the fact we had james colmer on talking about the very thing tommy ate mentioned. t and we seem on the precipice oof ,breaking down and finding out a lot more about joe biden's lies bid, that he had no knowlee or conversations with hunter or any family membeno knowlr aboutg business deals. that lie has been debunkedn and a lot of information has been coming out. and we seem on the precipice of getting to that point. but the question is, how will ths how wi americans see this ie
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the middle of now? what is the beginning of an election seaso n? th they're going to see it as they're going after trump. but if they can get trump, it meany can ges can get you.. they can get me. they can get of us. >> he is standing in the way and that can sound a campaign slogan, but it's very true. so he disrupted everythingsl, b they were up to and they know a second term of trump i ands the the table the exposing ofov everything they'veertu done. >> sean you know, i was on your program the night that alvin bragg brought the indictment as welle nigh ani remember saying and i'll say it again, this is a terrible night foblr our in our constitution and our justice system. re to the pertains republican primary, republicans will rally around donald trump. >> i think every single republican nominee should be down in miami on tuesday night standing behind, standing for justice in the country, saying, hey, i may be running fo r president.ke pence mike pence, tim scott, nikki haley, whoever. ron. whoever but this is injustice.
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this should noist stand. >> now, i don't think they have a chance now, considering what v trump is up against this will only strengthen him. >> but it's not abouis will t t, about our system. and he has he's been willing to expose it . have ta >> they've targeted him. and this will only serve th voters behind him. >> sean, in the in the republican nominee process because they realize what's at stake. ng everything mark levin laid out everything. greg jarrett laid out everything, ald outl the lawyera laid out beautifully is the fragile nature oidf republic. lp and donald trump has said, i will expose it. exe on i will take the arrows. and they're sending the entire weight of the federal government against him. >> and if they can do that, they could do it to all of us. that's what's at stake. and that's whywhat i think it mi him stronger as a nominenee. t. let's get pam's take on that. does this make him a stronger candidate? pam? e numb we saw his numbers rise when? when the raid at mar-a-lago
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happened. the same thing when the new york incidenot. does this strengthen his hand? is this just, you know, especiallys stre in light ofdurm the durham report and how devastating it was and how would exposet and ho the media allies for three years and expose the adam schiff's of the worldrn and their lies for three years opd said this neved r should hae been open? they talked directly about a double standard in the treatmen.direct dt of hillay clinton versus donald trump in that yea r. and now here we go again. you know, in minds of i got to imagine this begins to collectively come togetheis w they want this guy, politically speaking out of the picture. you know, they want him done. vt >> you believe politically it strengthens them or hurts them ?>> >> absolutely. it strengthens. sean. and how many years hav absolgthn talking about this? how many years has donald hog againstcorrupn the corrupt federal government? and he will continue to fighver and they know that. and, you know, as a former e are allr, thes
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trials take a very, very long time go to trial.. they're going to do, i believe, everything i going tn their powr to try to tie his hands, to get him to trial prior to the election. and they're not going to be able to do that legalloing ty ia they do. it's a dark, dark day again for our our justice system. but look at all look at the civil case. they did look at everything ythingthat's happened in new yoa and this isn't going to be the last of it. i don't think, sean, they're going to continuf it, e. attack him from all angles, thom the back, from the front, every way they can, but it is not going to work. and hi s poll numbers are going. to rise. but i believe he believes more than anything, this is than a dark day for america. what they're doing to him. and as pete said, if they can t do this to him, they can do this to anyone, and he will fighttocan do t like no otn being because he loves our country. tommy did just strengthen his political hand. does wit it does within the republican party. but, sean, i have the same pancer an i've had for months
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now. if republicans don't message this correctly, this will be lost on independents and event r some democrats. they're maybe not happy with joe biden, but are unsure if they woulwith joeutd vote fon trump again. so it is incumbent upon us to explain to the. american all of them why this is so important, whether they like donald ordonald they dislike donald trump, it doesn't matter. they need to understand the gravity of the situation, ie and i would also say to the democrats and to joe biden specifically what you so afraid of. why are you so afraid to takwhye on man in a fair fight, head to head? >> why do you have to do allto these shenanigans, pull all this cockamamie b.s.? because you won'eset the man hed on. what are you so afraid of? you ar are youe cowards. take on the man fair and square and let the american people an. de >> wow. that's pretty powerful, pete. you get the last peo word. tonight, we have two strong opinions. yothe two top. >> go ahead. hey bleach bit, hammers, emails, breeze.
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mayor hunter, if you want. if the problem is, how do we tell the story? remind people what's been done all. off he wayby, your life's worse off and the world is in chaoss o because donald trump is not at the helm. and you hand it over to joe thdeded itn. so the contrast this will strengthen him in the republican primary, no doubl strengt. >> and then you make the case to the general and they're ge they aretifiedere mortified of four years of what a trump who' os a political novice now would do to expose what they've been up to.to all right. we appreciate it. u as thank you, tommy. thank you, pam. good to see you as well. thank you. we now to fox news contributor tammy bruce outnumbered co-host hale y mcinerney. haley will will rely on your legal expertise. relya little tammy's right up te with you. what is your tak e on all of play the developments so far and how does this play outou, sean, the first time a sitting president has indicted his
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administration we know that this had to go up to merrick garland because we know when jim trusty and his lawyers came to washington, d.c. that meant n they likely knew an indictment was on the horizon. this is something they might have i to appeal to.justic the justice department wanted ga meet with merrick garland, so they knew this was coming. and unless merrick garland is just absent, this crossed his deskabsent. did he inform president biden? we know this is the bideprnesidn we knoadministration and a political appointee and in the form of merrick garland that has now indicted his most likely presidential competitor . and not only that, we have the comey standard. you know w, jim comey is nowck. a partisan hack. we know that he's been out on tv. we. he said this means, you know, donald trump might be wearing an ankle bracelet. >> he accepts the republican nomination while that same jim comey did not go after hillary clinton. >> and in fact n g, created a ne standard. >> it's called the reasonable prosecutor standaralled thd. e >> and he said even though
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there's evidence of wrongdoing under the law with clinton or 33,000 emails, a reasonable, reasonable prosecutor would not pursue this. so under jim comey, standardoset a reasonable prosecutor would have to prove donald trump, violate the law. and this should be brought because it was so egregious that it is worth indicting a presidential candidate. perhapt iss the nominee of party the republican party. it meets that high of a standard we haven't seenn then the indictment, but boy, that's , sean.high standard yeah, let's get your take, y. i wil well, i will never forget the few days after the midterms yest year, joe biden at a live press conference statement, asked about the fact that abo trump had madeut some hint thath he might run again, joe biden stated, that he would make sure that donald trump would not take power. hed trum said specifically. >> we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power if r he does run, making sureun, ma ,
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under the legitimate efforts of the constitution person, doest o not become the nextmethe president againextn. that was a confession at c the moment that they were goinog to do whatever they needed to to stop donald trump from pre becoming the next president. forget the election, forge.ts about the fact that it's the people of the united states, the sovereign, that make thaunitedt decision, but tt this was a contemplated act deci. then o of course, the mar a lago rate itself was obviously meant for television, obviously meanty men to interfere with this comingmie election. but a number of your guests have said it very clearly leon numr gueststonight. ks this looks like it's about donald trump. it's never lik abo been about dd trump. it is about indicting and stoppingit i his mainoppone political opponent. and that person is thent.ion of collection of the american people. the american millions, the 75 million that voted for him that the same doj has been going
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after as supposedly domesticomei terrorists or extremists. >> this has been open. they've been sloppy about it. they've been overconfidenty and they haven't known when to stop. and this is now the result. ses >> so you're going to see issues about espionage and whether or not could becomet the president. is that what biden was implying ? the timing? you could have waited a couple of days afte r the the house got the the fbi whistleblower. you know, evidence regarding the biden family, but they didn't even to do that. this is so dramatically. >> but also it is you want something unconscious to know something that is interfering with an election. but more than that willing to destroy the entire dynamic of our system to punch in the face, not just us, buto punc washington and adams and jefferson and hamilton and everyone who came aftere af
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lincoln, everybody who died on the field at gettysburge to save this nation, that th who is being punched the face right now. donald trump, thank god he is willing still stand for us and for this country. hesr past and her future because this is the kind of guy he is. >> and no matter who you are ifu you're wobbling about him or you're just not sure thisot sur vote now is about everyonee,im and not just him. and it shows you what they're afraid of. shows y what th a future that is clear and that exposes them, but also remakes us againagai as the sovereign, that is what they cannot stand. >> you know, they started thisol criminalization of political differences. dier i whyences. do i believe if there's any adherence to any single standard, the people are going to that will be sufferine peopg the most are going to be the bidens. and it looks like that is comin.comingg to a quickerwe conclusion than we might have thought.
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>>w. yeah, look, that's what i'm interested in, sean, is the joe biden administration who it's the end doj, right? >> we don't interfere in dojerfe investigations except oh, wait, i will say i have greatn confidence in my son hunter. >> i'm proud of my son hunter, which is af my s clear to doj. don't go after my son. hunter. so dojot go independent until e son hunter comes into. >> not only that, joe biden admitted to pbs that part of the classified documents that he maintained by his corvettt oe or wherever they were in the various locations were documents 1974, which were his time in the senate. so974, whi would have had to tam out of his skiff, as we've discussed before. wand them, which is an egregios violation, but one of the things i found so interesting today in the reporting, cnns i found soms someone at doj talking to them because they reported on this witness, who apparently briefed
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both biden and trumpwho on documentsap. and that witness said while prosecutors in the trump case aggressively focusedprosecas ons personal comments and the biden one, they just askedand th about mechanics. >> isn't that interesting? trump there agreed.sive they're aggressive. we have biden. it's just mechanics. we have to leavebiden,st mecha . kelly i'm just out of time. thank you both kelly and tammy . that's all the time we have. left. let not your heart be trouble. laura's next will have a is a lotght. more tomorrow night. >> thank you for being with usto . >> i'm laura ingraham. this is the "ingraham angle" from washingtoi am laun. earlie now, earlier this evening, the news came from the defendant himsel newf. donald trump told his millions of followers on social that was going to be indicted and he'st m also being ordered to report to federal court in miami th tuesdayia, 3 p.m.. now, the criminal indictment and the supporting filings against, trump have yet to be officially unsealed, but we've been informe officiad seven coun them include the willful retention of nationa
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