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just that. liberal media have snappedmber to the one attention to do bides bidding with glee and leaving no room for the american way. you know the part that says presumed innocent until guilty . no president in the history of the united states has been indicted like this. trump iserican w the first. then could joe biden be next? of coursit has beee, biden has n classified document case under investigation by a separate special counsel. >> it's so quiet, though, you wouldn't know it's happening. >> the justice department has appeared to be iet you wld not y on that. but trump oh, yeah, they're ins a hurry. special counsel jack smith was eagel jar to tell the nation thi he is leading the investigation into trump and gavs stigatioe ag statement right after the indictment was unsealed today. >>onal my office will seek a speedy trial in this matter, consistent with the publicl se interest and the rights ofek ait the accuse wd. we very much look forward

to presenting our case to ay muh jury of citizens in the southern district of florid lesentinga. >> speedy. just hours ago on his social media platform, truth, social, the former president blasted jack smith as, quote, deranged a and a lunatic and a psycho. thosl,presidene are his words. we now know the trump indictment has 37 criminal counts against the former president for his handling of classified material after he left the white house. jack smith and the doj allege trump's behavior was, quote, putting at risk the national thosrity of the united states foreign relations and the safety oe his wof the ut military. the indictment accuses trump of house.g defenser e departmentthe un and military secrets and intel g our country's nuclearmi program. the justice department alslitaro is accusing trump of personally packing some of the boxes himself. stunning images in the indictment. inside the indictment, i have it here. e de they included pictures where they say trump waspa storinginside these documents at mar-a-lago.

boxes are pictured t include ino such as the ballroom, the former president's bedroomom ,a bathroom and a shower. again, in a series of posts on true social today, the former president disputedain the characterization put forth in the indictment and those pictures aoday the. ures here's what he said. everything about the boxes was so neat, orderly and clean. and trump asks, did the fbi tip over the one box the way they stage the papers on the floor during the raid? and nobody said i wasn't allowed to look at the personal. records that i brought with me from the white house. bout the should former president trump ? s i brouson to worry what should his new legal strategy be with a brandthe wh b new legal team as of today? y is aan turlera george washington university law professor, a legal scholar ,and he joins me now.nivers jonathan, good to see you. i really want to digitprofes th. thank you. first of all, let's start with the tools in trump's defense kit that you think,

yeah, that'll work. th the ti. >> well, they're going to be making an initial threshold attack on some of the statuteso involved here. the trump team has argued that the presidential records king an on some is, in fact, a civil statute. it's not a criminal statute. and yet that was used to sort of bootstrap this into a criminal investigation. thatey're likely to argue the department of justice sort of played a fast one here t by using the presidential records achet initially in this matter. and then they switched over to the espionage r act. and there is this conflict between the two. they're citing an opinion by a trial judge in washington thatwo deal. t with the clintonat dea administration when bill clinton removedltton tapes of conversations he had with foreign leaders and the judge in that case said that these matters are really left to the president's discretion and that the gray hair,

the presidential records act, sort of this toothless tiger. so they're going to emphasize issues like that. there's also questions so about whether their attorneys should have been compelled to testifyob against their client. many of the most damaging the t arecomingindictmene elledo coming from donald trump's former lawyers. >> f you know, it's interesting what you're talking about, because now i understand why there have been some questions about whether or not you can, you know, defy yar something tht isn't a law in a the first plac. >> well, this is going to be this is a tricky thing to to pull off. look, i think that the odds are still against the trump team on this particular claim, but >> t a novel one.team o >> there is a conflict betweenni these statutest's a and the opn likes the one from washington, d.c., but that's just one of the issues they're likely to throw up there. >> the biggest frogton problem i smith is not trump. it's time.is n

he's got to troty to get this to trial, preferably before the election. that's the reason i think heelei emphasized in his remarks. we want a speedy's the r trial. well, the sixth amendment protects the defendant, nothe the prosecutors and defendants usually waive a speedyndant no f >> but foror smith, there is a looming problem here. if this trial goes beyond the election, no beyont only cod trump pardon himself, but various other candidates have said that they might pardon him. right. they're electenly could d presi. >> right. vivek ramaswamy is one of them. be one ofat wouldd presid the first things he would do. i want to talk to you about the speediness, though, because how far short do you fall before the election? . you say, no, we're not going to have a decision in this case. you knowness because, on the evt election, or does that noton matter the? >> well, first of all, in terms of the schedule, you know, you have the sixth amendment

itself, but there's actually a federal statut fethat sets the period, and it's generally aroundde 70 days where you need to move in unless there is a waiver that would put a trialr. in august. and yeah, they obviously could y, convict or acquit. you know, donald trump. the the problem is that he's got these threshold challenges to make, and i expect they're going to waiveo e the speedy trial. so once that happens, the cour t is going to get increasingly uncomfortable as these elections approach. singly the department of justice has always maintained that they try no uhese ele t to have these cases interfere with elections. well, this case is going to be one of the issues in the election. hmm. yeah to bene of , well, trump'sy started there. i mean, he's comparing it to all those things that turned out to be fake and false and hoaxes and everything else. and we kno.w that there wereande politics now at the highest level inside the fbi k from a the durham report. the fbi says it's fixing those things. we'll see about thatt est side tuesday in miami, the former president goes before a federal

judge appointed by him, eileenef cannonor. she got bipartisan support in her appointment. what can you tell us aboutus how that makes a difference for the former president? >> well, it's distressing to see people already attacking this judge. i guess it's par for the course in our age of rage that we cannot give the benefit ofjudges the doubt to judges to do their job. look, this indictment has some very damaging parts in it. . we have only heard the government side. every indictment is strongestvee when it's first released. ev every indictment ever used against any of my clients has tended to diminish with time. but there are still some very damaging things in this indictment, not just the photographs, but an. audiotape that the president's going to have to dea phol with. but that judge is going to start on tuesday to try that schedule. and that's going to be very difficult with a presidential

election looming. >> and then i've got to let you go. the audiotap e e that got leaked, some of the other media were playing that audio tape with transcripts of the former president. i mean, we are in kind of prest. renudiotape with oh, i don't even know it's next level in terms of how the media itay a role in all of this. we's don't know who leaked thatt but it was blaring everywhere even before the indictment wasen unsealed today. >> well, of course, this the department of justice case. s have been leaking at an almost unprecedented level. >> that happened that audiotape. >> well, these are clearly many these are strategic leaks. you haven't seen these leaks coming out on the biden n. of tatio but it seems like every time the department of justice needs a boos t, there's a leak. >> and they don't seem to have much interest in finding outit r the sources of these leaks, which makes it even more suspicious. >> yeae h, you mean like the one out of the u.s. supreme court? yeah. they weren't interested in

finding that leak either. wow. jonathan turley, it to start the hour off with you and get your perspective and your expertise. tic i really appreciate it. thank you.i the trump indictment is causing a, as we wereedi just talking about, to go as far as to spill their own secrets, like hoping for a potential justice department o lessen or wipe away even their case in exchange, for one thing, they want trump dropping out of the presidential race. they can jusepartmen hope.identl >> you have to wonder if help. the justice department is considering whether theree tw is some political solutionon to this criminal problem. do they consider as part of a potential plea offer something that would prescribe him, proscribe him fro. m from from running for office again? >> wow. she said that quie pre from t part right out loud. well, former president trump himself predicted he wouldself be prosecuted precisely because . was running >> here he was just in april. and i am the one that they don't want to run against. that's why they're coming after me like this. if they wanted me to run,

they'd say, oh, no, he is the most perfect human being. we'vthe moste seen.ever s instead, they put these monsters in theree these me. they put these radical left, crazy people. and now if they want to tear the party of this information, remember that what they say, you can usually go the opposite. they say, oh yeah, we want to run against trump. in the meantime, they got 5000 prosecutors after my . >> wow. so is this all really about trump out of the race? alina harbor is one of the president's attorneys and she joins me now. great to see you. we've been together two nights in a row, pre unsealing of the indictment. and now and i want to get your take on why you think it's all happening. is it, in fact, to keep himnigh from runningts? keep hi >> 100%.from they are afraid of run donaldtr trump and they should be. he is leading in the pollsan. and ever y time they hit him, he just gets up and hits them harder. it is frighteninme they t him h if you are a comey, pelosi or a schumer and you are sitting

there in the justice system as ray is and you are not turning over documents that indict a current president and donald trump could takeer you out. that's got to be frightening for them. but you know what? i know he didn'tuments tindictsb wrong. we have our day in court and this indictment is completelutnot do y one sided. it is their story. it is who they want to put out. and they take a grand jury of people. they show them their own evidence and they come aftern ah the greatest president we've had. and the 47th president. hav that is what they're doing. that is whate ha they're doing. they're taking away your right to vote. and that is a very scary time for our countr the nt. y. a scar we saw the president today shake up his legal team a bit. and i know thay cout you're not representing him on this case, but you are close to the former president in your legal advice nonetheless. represen him on what can you tef anything, about how different whe as a teamas a t compared with how it was even 24 hours ago? o.i think when any indictment comes down, you have to assess

what the best strategy is.strate the more information you have, the better. gyre infortionso he's going to that everyone thinks is best suited for this case. now, we have some color to it. you have to remember, when there's a grand jury, we don't have details. we don't know what the charges that they're bringing are. we don't have the people with those particular expertisee . of course, i'm not licensed in florida. he has to bring people who are licensed in florid wthose exens we didn't even know the venue as of yesterday. right. so so this ow the v as of y is all part of a strategic plan in in any legal community. and he'll be all over it. >> he already is. yeah. i mentioned eileen cannon, who will be the judge presiding over this as a trump appointee in the southern district there and in south florida. and so that's ump appos one name that may be familiar to people is is what he's about to face, going to be with a team that l. 're familiar with at al of course, in terms of the legal team, they will be properly vetted. they will be people that w

e really use and vet. there's a lot of attorneys that want to work use for donald tru and i want to clear that up trumo much gossipsto and literally that is all it is. but we have so many people that we have to vet and go through a proces have sos to make sure the right team for him. this is not a jokesure t you ge. it is a privilege to represent president trump. so wvilege trepresene have to v we have to make sure that the right people for the team, right people for the jobma and when we feel comfortable and he feels comfortable, ultimately he will make that decisionel. but yeah, there will be people that are, you know, referred to us and vetted and thare aretn know through reputation. >> well, as you heard maybe moments ago from jonathan turley, he said, look, this does have some teeth in it. there ar.>> as you heare some t but he said every day that goes past and his experience with ant indictment, you're building your defense against it and it looks a little biting more pal. and in the light of day, as you go forward. so we'll see. all in all, but thank you again for joining the program. appreciate your timen e light u . we app >> thank you.re well, we're about to take a very close look at special

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1231. >> will the liberal media ever learn their lesson? r after all the fake scandals they've pushed and hadon? to clarify because they never really apologize? you'd think they would have learned how to hold their tongue until the facts are there. o, they're back to piling on trump. thirsty for his downfall before the fight really has begun in court a ten person panel. look at that. that's like two people short of a jury. of course, they're not interested in justice, though, on that supersized panel. >> some of the most notorious trump haters in the country are on that panel. e most mueller's pitbull, so called andrew weissman, forme ntrump hn white house press secretary jen psaki, ex-senator claire mccaskill. where is the coverage of joe biden's scandals? one former trump attorney pointed out that, well, here's a

what he had to say to georgeat ' stephanopoulos. >> no person is below the law. that's really the issue here. i mean, you've got these investigations in delaware that are 1000 times more serious by a sitting president who has i authorized his doj to try the to sink the candidacy of his prime opposition while thaacy oy has unsecured documents that he stole out of a scif dozens oft years ago. so, look, you know, we're not talkinha stg about something about you talking about that is a ridiculous state. there's this issue. nice try. there's an issue that anyone that reads any newspapers would. agree. there's a parallel track, whic h is the delaware documents scandal of joe biden, where there's a special counsel rob her that's investigating it. you know that there were documents that were sensitive, that were marked classified, found in a garage, a corvette that made their way through chinatown, through the penn biden center.

>> oh, jason chaffetz is former of house oversight committee and the author of the branh chid new book, the puppeteers the people who control the people who control america . >> jason, who's controlling the liberal media for the president? , they are masterful inontrol getting together and issuing a single t memo. isn't amazing how many times you will hear them say the repetitive thinggether a anr they're all on the same word track and that it's a coordinated and there are puppeteers that will come in and say, here's what you're going to talk about. and they do. it is unbelievable. they get out there first, even leaked audio comes out of the department of justice. had to. right. that's that's undone. yeah. it'sd there come i already there.mes ou >> well, and i askedt of j jonathan turley, i said, well, you know, you saw the same thinustiit hg happen at the u.s. supreme court. no one wants to knowthe how the highest levels of government are breached and leaked. curiou >> no one's curious, but over a thousand pages from l, michaeltor genera horowitz, even criminal referral. a criminal referral on somebodty

who was doing that, somebody at the department of justice at and the fbi that was taking money and tickets and taking, you know, favors. and they don't ever do. >> i have watched this time and time again. i was the chairman of i e oversight committee time and time again, the inspector general that the inspectorme general at the department of justice is not allowed to interview and loogenek after attorneys. >> what do you mean? how can you do your job as an inspector general if you can interview an attorney, the department of justice, where there's 110,000 employees. ther do yo? s he doing >> well, he makes these referrals. but this is the problem with congress the prs, too, tho because they go and issue a subpoena. i issued subpoenas. ed >> okay. i would issue preservation letters. do the onl y way to get that enforced is to have the department of justice enforce it on itself. and it took congress gets a backbone. it stands up for itselasf. nd trey gowdy has talked a lot about this. i think it is fundamental problehink it'sndm and you see it playing out in this case as well. >> that is so circularlaying o.

>> yeah, well, it doesn't actually. how do they provide any oversight? the inspector general can't do that. and then you have this case with joe bidenthe inspector tha the hunter, james comer is doing a fantastic joban. but why is a unclassified document not coming out? because the fbi is stonewalling it and they know that they can get away with it. yeah, they're not officials, so they just ignore it. well, i do want to mention thata trump realigned his attorneys today and who we heard from thered offic it.e was was james. >> right. who you and i both interviewed. we know him well i want hat tru and so he stepped aside.he he and another attorney have stepped asidd aside e as. they, as elina harbor on trump's team told us, they are now honing on florida attorney, so on and so forth. but you saw how hard he was still fighting for president trump just a few hours ago and he gave l answer and he gave the right answer because the media is not going to do this. the fourth estate's not going to go after these people. >> and the other thingis not g a wanted to mention here is, is we watched inntris. the irs i which was intimately involved with in the case of hillary

clintothe casen, these people hd classified documents, federal records, and they destroyead cld them and they didn't even care. nobody was prosecuted. wow. the people who control the people who control puppeteers get the book. jason, good to see youo .contro thanca k you. president trump was not the only president to take records home from the house, of course. how, of course, we know he wasn't. president biden took scores of classified documents, some of them top secret. >> a high level of sensitivityt. problem for biden is that he-se. took some of that when he wasitt a usy. senator. that's a crime and someone he was obama's vice president. the doj says it's activelynts investigating documents he stored at the university of delaware library. that's where some 1850 boxes are. and when are they going to grab all thos850 e? why haven't they filed any charges against joe biden? judicial watch is on the case. they've just filed a foia

request to learn more about those boxes and boxes in boxes. tom fitton is the president of judicial watch. the oftom, welcome to the hour. what do you know about what could be there at the university of delaware? >> well, it's the president's lawyer accuratelersityy recountd there's classified information. >> and by the admission ofthe ps biden's lawyer among his senate records. wed theirs classif sued with thr news foundation at the beginning a few years ago for the records at the university of delaware. they pushefor thd at us. we can't even get the secret deal that they have. with the university to keep t these records secret from the american peoplhe e. >> we have a hearing next week before the supreme court of delaware from th on this battle. >> so biden can end this in a minute. right. inute. >> h e can just say releaselease th the records. but the deal is currently as best wee s but th it we won't get these records till two years after he leaves politics these. >> so explain to me this. how long have those records from sitting here?

because for the first time and i've been covering the story for a while, i haven't heard anybody attach the word years to the 1850 boxes that are sitting at the university of delaware library. ords b well, you know, he left. when did he leave? in 2000. eight,eehereime been co 2009, as a vice? president, as senator. so he's been? there for they've been there for many years. have beand they've been secret and over our objections, legally for two or three years. and, you know, the delaware supreme court's beens legallhre delaware supreme court. this will be the second time. and it highlighte second s disparate treatment. it's not only secret records. he has, but it's the treatment. no raids, no. ity. i'm not aware of any grand jury activity. right. you know, it's amazing how that doesn't happen. related to his handling of records from his n't days as ays as a senator and frankly, with the whole trump thing. senator president trump had a rt to those records. they were necessarily personalpe

under prior justice department policy. the clinton sock drawer casece , etc.. that same law applies to vice president biden, but they've changed the rules. and if they're going to follow those rules against trump, why isn't biden being hauled before a grand jury or people around him? >> i tell you, it's it's not a double standard. i think it's one standard target. trump and people, we don't like and protect our own. if you're a democrat and that's what's happening aisn't bieforeu department. and jack smith should be ashamed of himself for putting out thismp aeople wedonu political indictment. tom fitton aemocrat , thank you your time and telling us what you're working on. on for you.on. for those 1850 boxes of joe biden, some of whichen's, su classified at the university of delaware. k you. >> activists are now pushing puberty blockers on children as if they are in the safe mainstream of medicine. but the science suggests quite the opposite. we lay out the potential dangers. and by the way, the fda has nont

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left's new moral code could be more important to the citoti just look at this recent social media post from the san francisco policeso departmenciar i'm on my wan y. the lgbtq flag is being used for a municipality and politicians to flex their works. pois it more revered than the star spangled banner and in the new america, are we expected to pledge allegiance to an additional flag?the now?d douglas murray is a fox news contributothr, "new york post" columnist and douglas, old glory has some competition. colu >> what domn you say about it?so yes, thime cs is such a grotesqe spectacle. what we've just seen, the idea that anyone is obligated

to salute the rainbow flag, let alone the military, is just a sort of grotesque thing. in america. there's meant to be one flag, and it's the unifying flag of bn the united states of america and for the militarye unifyi ans to sort of now start to sort ofi bow down to the so-called pride flag. >> it's really it's sort of sickeninas wg as well as sort of comic. i mean, what do they think they're doing exactly? the only explanation i have is that they're massively overcome and sating.that t you know, most of the peopleco who now go around wavingmpensa e flags and going on about pride month now with no way to be seen when gay rights and other civil rights were actually to be fought for. but now they've all beenpr acquired. it's as if they were never fought for at alide so about pl. or but all these people are at n the barricades, as if nothing . s ever been achieved >> really grotesque. well, and i wonder how people e you, lgbtq, really feel about this? d, ean, they are being use

you know, along a political line of gains for otheeing usere . and it's pretty obvious. i mean, i can't imagine that they fee cal linend it's l, you know, any more loved. and we and we love everybody. we want everybody to love the way they do. but yeah, gosh, when we gotev to the mooeryonen, we put one fg on it. iwo jima. do you think we raising likee p multiple flags? flagi mean, i'm just trying to imagine history if we toy with our future way, we can love people and they can have their freedom. but do have to change red,have t white and blue. >> no, the thing about thiheom harris, i mean, there's just been this massive idiocy that'sp happening in our time. gay people are not paren t of an lgbtqia plus two spirit community. there is no such community. it wouldn't cohere if you couldh try to create it. there is this ideamunity. now. n >> all gay people from history are being described as lgbtq, whitg e and. >> nobody would have known what they were talking about. oh, that's interesting. a new invention and it

is an invention. it is being pushed inve cynicallyom any apart from anything elseth by corporate americaate , which is which loves just rainbow washing itselfloves , because i means we don't look at things that they're getting wrong elsewhere. geg wrong a new way to just wah yourself in woke glory. and i think it's sickening. and people are being used and it's very cynicackening l at that's really a sad part of all of it. and alsosad part getting caught up in this are children. i mean, it gets younger and younger that those things come into play how salute this flag do thisnd getti use this. we're going to go more now with dr. segal douglas, thank we'rso very much. what i'm talking about are those puberty blockersith and t controversial treatment that many countries now, like norway sweden, finland, some that are actually known to be very liberal have banned pubertybannd blockers for minors. >> they say they're dangerous with many lasting unchangeable side effects like rendering children permanently infertile

. the fda has never approved that medication for this kind ofneve use on minoraps. doctors prescribe them for off label. so why are activists alwaysmi telling us that they are safe for kidnorsprescribs dr. m, who actually is a doctor and not an activist fox medicaln aci contributor now? >> so no emergencyvi. authorization needed for this like a covid vaccine because they can use it off label. can u >> what does that mean? well, it means people couldse prescribe it, but what's really disturbing about this is how about considering the side effects of let me be really clear on this. lupron, which is the leading for this is a drug i use for prostate cancer. it causes chemical castration. and every male that i've seen on this and it could be life saving for prostate cancer is fatigued. they feel terribleand every ma u start giving this to minors. and the fda has received thousand adverse eventsin reported up until 2017 alone.

we're talking about brittle bones. events report severe headaches, and we're talking about suicidal thinking changes in thinking and emotions. and we want to give this to kids. >> well, doctors should be thebr ones that lead on this notit su why aren't they?uld be >> well, that's a good question. they should be because tlead ot. they're their life. their license is on the line. we're talking about c oath here.ti>> we right. do no harm. look, harris, you and i are both known for our compassion.we we struggle and are troubled by children with gender dysphoria that have not sure what their gender is, but let them get mental health support. th suppothey already have a lots issues regarding depression and anxietueregardy why enter tt drug. >> it's not reversible. some of them, like fertility. go you forgot to mention fertility. if they decide to go the other way, they may very not be able to have a child. >> let me step in two things. you said chemical castration yoi for little boys and what? f camerafor ,me off of more endometriosis for young girls increases there. >> it changes it decreases

estrogen dramatically at a time when they're going into pubert y . and you make that decision as what, 11 year old with their parents. i mean, that is frightening. >> what if they change their minds? is it reversible? well, reversible, but most ofveb them don't end up changingle their minds because they're going down a political course. and what about the gender changing surgeries that we're talking about here that the president was was wasge the advocating for? >> i mean, those are not reversible once you have a mastectomyir wn a all of this is on the table. and really the question here ting fore about here? you know, by the way, the national health service adde.th. d to the list that wasab said at the beginning. they're not allowing this outside of e nation clinical trials. why are we and why are some states like washington considering not even the need for parental consent? can you imagine a 13 year old voting for this without even a parent? >> mm-hmm. why mm-hmm.eed fo >> florida is fighting this battle and a court, a judgr ent? e has just put a stay on their ban on this sort of thing down in the state of florida. n the st we're watching that, too. dr. siegel, always good to talki to youda. .

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an unprecedented bombshell in the 2024 presidential electionre . how are his gop rivals reacting to the news? asnt ela hutchinson called for trump to drop out of the race, saying he needs to, quote, respect the office and end hisle offiaignd for . mike pence's reaction wasn't very different. gnno one is above the law. and in america, we have to stand on the rule of law, st irrespective of politics. secondlyonthe ru, the handling l classified materials is a very serious s matter in this nation. >> vivek ramaswamy, meanwhile,pn committed to pardoning trump if he wins, it would be easier for me if donald trump were not in this race. but this is not about politics. to me, this is about principle . i stand on the side of principle, and i'm committed to say that if i am electedere o as your next president on january 20tht but thi, 2025, ir pardon not just president trump, butinm commit r victim of a politically

motivated prosecutiotrump n. >> brian kilmeade is host of fox and friends. brian, you listen to ramaswamy and maybe there are other republicans out there. we'll start to hear from donald trump. have some support. doing but what vivek ramaswamyis is doing is going further. pardon the president. t if h hee needs it. >> we got a couple of things at play here. harris number one, how they really feel. ings a you know, jim jordan's got hist back. you know, others senator joser h hollings got his back. others are saying, wait a second, this is an opportunity to maybe get closerh to the frontrunner. number two, ife fr they do want to win and want to be president, you can't do it without the trump base. and if you want to alienate the trump base, go ahead and say this guy's guilty. i hope he i hope he goes to jail. good base. . not only don't you have a shoth at the gop nomination. if do find a way to get it. if you don't get that 30 to 40%y of trump supporters, you're not going to win. th your time.gou and then you have senate senator tim scott who says he

sees the dual path of justice. ron desantis comes outzealou and says, why so zealous ins pursuing trump yet so passive about hillary and hunter, the double standard. >> so that was an opportunity for him. he did not jump on it. he's backing off. people want to see what happens tuesda the dd not juy. tuesda we saw the indictment today. it's there are some things that toe goiny an g to be troublingr trump. and there's other things where you just say, wait a second, isn' be t there another guyy wh who lives in the white house who also has a countlesslu amoud of classified documents at all different levels oveocr the course of decades when he was senator and vice president? no excuse to take it. no one knew it was gone. so if you want to have people trust the department of justice, just make ipartmentt em like it's equal. well, and i mean, pence clean in this either he just gave his classified documents that heande taken back. and some are wondering, well, why doesn't everybodwondery do ? well, you know, we don't know. we don't know why biden hasn'twn let them have access to the 1850 boxes. there's no way for us to know

that. we don't know why the doj is not curious enough to go knock on the door aton't kno the university of delaware and raid. well, i think they did not . i think they have the way i understand that they did take the university of delaware documents. we just don'sue neckdid understat know what would happen to them. did they take the one from the court right. they >> no, no, it's very differentdi that one. that's what i'm saying. they didn't knock on the door. and you saw i don't know ifor. you were watching earlier. tom fitton from judicial watch wants to for you for those yocuments to find out exactl what you're talking about. how long were they, therefore, where are they?ey the we don't know. brian, talk to me about what ite means. real quickly are t, for these oa candidates, though, i mean, there's a money issue here to fundraising. donald trump is a master upin te the oxygen in the room. and now the government has made hi roomm again the victim in a e that they're pressing. ng. we don't know how it's going wi to turn out, but that's got to be something that in his own team has told me. his attorney, elina harbor, has said. this is going to help hihing hin

the short term. >> i mean, if we're looking at another georgia indictment, why not think know it's going to come and you got to think the january six will come. and then after a while, ome know, you say, well, how court cases can one candidate deal with? but the big picturidate deale donald trump keeps taking more oxygen becomes the story. you don't see the other candidates front and center. harris it's all about's trump good or bad, it's about trump. >> brian, you will be guest next week.ht here you'll be returning here to fox news. yes. tonight. exciteturning d that. have a wonderful weekend. thank you. and there you. don't miss him. 8 p.m. eastern. i love a good cowboy him story. real life cowboys are keeping the highway safe in michigan. o >> more on that after the break. look, there they areco. . >> hello, i'm mike lindell and i'm here to tell you about my brand new product, my slippers. >> what makes my slippers different from those other

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that blacktop gets pretty slippery when you get going that fast. >> you can fall down pretty easy, you know. i know you're standing next to trinidad and i'm curious to know, do you do you do this as a team? i mean, a cowgirl standing next you. >> absolutely. i couldn't have done it that day without her, actually. so when that steer, i got him roped, he up jumping the guardrail and i had to have her come put another rope on him and hold him there so i could run all the way down to the cop, turn around and come back. and i and i put my rail upon him on that side, and we ended up taking him safely off the road after that. if it weren't for the team, it wasn't. it got done. o i co sure. between the dogs, our horsepower and us together. betwme back , it's just how we . >> that's how we do things. i love that. horsow we do that so talent and. .st onet one for you fhow often.e this >> have you done this? i started about eight years ago, but we catch cows now. it started off like maybe like five cows or so a year.

and now we're catching like two, 250 head a year. ooh, save and save in livestoc k on the highways. i'm most of the time is in rural areas, which is a lot safer, but this one ended up blowing up pretty big being you know, just north of detroit t of fo it was pretty pretty pretty unheard of for most of thoser oo peoplese. >> great to see you. god bless you both. thank you. ricky little john, there. have a great weekend. it's been my pleasure. my honor of blessing to be with you this week.at to sean hannity is nosew hi, welcome to "hannity". >> the 45th president of the united states, donald j. trump, now been indicted by the biden justice department overruh alleged crimes that biden himself is alsasindicto accused of committing. but while the ongoing federal documents investigate nation into joe biden is going seemingly nowhere, donaling fedd trump is now being forced to appear before a federal judge on tuesday to face what is now criminal charges. alar befor