will: yeah. rachel: darn. we were going to see the seersucker rip. will: almost went down right away. oh, my gosh. and there goes the mic and the materials. i can't hear anything. rachel: make sure you catch. the belmont stakes today at 4 p.m. eastern. bye, everybody. pete: have a great saturday, everybody. [laughter] neil: the haze lifting over the northeast, but it is thickening over the 2024 presidential race. donald trump is set to appear in a miami court on tuesday as he faces 37 federal charges for his handling of those classified documents. but before appearing there, the former president appearing in georgia and north carolina today. we'll speak with georgia's secretary of state on the investigation the former president still faces there. and if you think the former president's primary opponents are slamming him, think again. most are actually defending him.

the newcomer in this race, what does he think? we'll ask him, he's here. first, on the fast and furious fall with all of this from nate foy on what the former president is facing and saying, alexis mcadams in north carolina on his opponents, and lucas tomlinson at the white house with how the current president is responding. welcome, everybody. happy to have you, happy weekend, i'm neil cavuto. let's go to nate this new jersey with the latest from the former president there. hey, nate. >> reporter: hey, neil. you mentioned it, former president trump is back on the campaign trail today as he's set to appear in miami federal court early next week, but we learned yesterday he's facing 37 felony federal charges, and we also learned he's accused of being personally involved in moving those classified documents from the white house to mar-a-lago. take a look at these pictures that investigators released. they say that these documents contained sensitive military secrets. they were found in a storage room, a ballroom, a bedroom and

bathroom at mar-a-lago. federal prosecutors say former president trump showed people who did not have security clearances an attack plan that was prepared for him by the defense department. and on another occasion, a map related to a military operation. the indictment describes an incident, neil, where trump is accused of saying, quote: as president, i could have declassified it. now i can't, you know? but this is still a secret. special counsel jack smith described the severity of these charges. >> -- laws that protect national defense information are critical to the safety and security of the united states, and they must be enforced. violations of those laws put our country at risk. >> reporter: neil, former trump's aide, navy veteran walt nada, faces six felony charges for his handling of these documents, accused of lying to fbi agents. president trump is again using

an indictment to fundraise for his 2024 campaign. remember, he saw a big boost in donations after he was indicted on state charges in new york. the former president is again imploring his supporters to donate to fight election interference. back out here live, neil, as for the former president's schedule today, thing he's set to speak at the gop conventions in georgia and north carolina. his first speech today is set for 2:30 in the afternoon. we'll send it back to you. neil: all right. nate, thank you for that. want to go to alexis mcadams on what she's hearing on the campaign front. hi, alexis. >> reporter: hey, neil. yeah, a busy 24 hours here in north carolina. there's been a lot of foot traffic from a lot of important candidates, and we're just hours away now from the former president taking the stage here in north carolina. as nate mentioned, he'll first symptom -- stop in georgia. and before that we're going to hear from mike pence. governor desantis spoke also yesterday accusing the doj of playing politics. take a listen. >> hillary had had had the

e-mails with the classified, and my view was, well, gee, as a naval officer, if i would have taken classified to my apartment, i would have been court-martialed in a new york minute, and yet they seemed to not care about that. is there a different standard for a democrat secretary of state versus a former republican president? >> reporter: before trump does head to north carolina tonight, the former president speaking at that georgia gop convention, neil, a state where he faceses criminal charges related to allegations of election interference back in 2020. that'll be first appearance that he makes publicly since learning that he faces 37 federal charges in florida since that second indictment hit and faces 34 counts of falsifying business records out of a separate case in new york. his former running mate, vice president mike pence, will also address the crowd of conservatives here in the tarheel state in just about an hour or so. republicans and democrats are focusing on north carolina. they're really trying to win over voters in this battleground state which is dealing with major population shifts, and the

state has a majority of voters not affiliated with either political party. >> you can't win without winning north carolina, and you think about it, we are 30% republican, 33% democrat, 37% unaffiliated. so it is truly going to be that battleground state. and we're excited to have these guys down here, because they understand the strategic importance of being here for that super tuesday state. >> reporter: and, neil, the gop convention continues here in greensboro as the former vice president will be are on this stage behind me in just a short time. he'll be speaking with voters here at this luncheon and trying to connect with them on a personal level. we'll see how that goes. but in the afternoon, we're going to hear from the former president donald trump. they already sold out tickets, neil, i guess a few weeks ago, but people are still trying to get in because they want to hear what the former president ooh's going to say about indictment number two. neil: yeah, this is his first chance to speak with an audience about that. thank you,, alexis. now to the white house, how the present occupant is dealing with

all of this, lucas. >> reporter: north carolina's a pretty crowded place, president biden was there as well yesterday. he was asked many times about the trump indictment. he did not want to talk about it. >> reporter: mr. president, are you concerned -- [inaudible] in light of the trump indictment? >> i have no comment. >> reporter: president biden, have you spoken to attorney general merrick garland yet? >> i have not spoken to him at all, i'm not going to speak to him. >> reporter: president biden visiting rocky mountain the, north carolina, to tout the achievements of his administration, he recently wen, the recently-renamed fort bragg. his deputy secretary says biden didn't know the indictment was coming. "the wall street journal" editorial board sounding a lot like governor desantis there saying, quote: in the court of public opinion, the first question will be about two standards of justice. mr. biden had old, classified

files stored in his delaware garage next to his sports car. when that news came out, he did not sound too apologetic. as alexis pointed out, governor desantis says if he's elected president, he wants to change the name from fort liberty back to fort bragg. neil: lucas, thank you from the white house. matt whitaker joins us now, the former acting u.s. attorney general. matt, thank you for coming in on a saturday, no less. >> hi, neil. neil: i know where you're coming from and i have heard a lot of others saying sympathetic and loyal to the former president, even those who might personally not be, saying this is a mischaracterization of justice and unfair. having said all of that though, i was reminded, secretary, by what something bill barr had to say, former attorney general, that mr. trump is his own worst enemy, quoting him here. this would have gone nowhere had the president just returned the documents, but he jerked them around for a year and a half. this is what happens.

do you think at least partially that's true? >> well, it's good to be with you this morning, neil. you know, i think this case is more complicated than just that point you're trying to make. i think this case can never be divorced from the fact that a democrat president's administration is bringing it against their former opponent and their future opponent most likely. and so, you know, that context requires, i think, a lot more explaining. and, you know, the point that the reporter made before this is the distinction between hillary clinton, mike pence, joe biden, all those different cases is not made in this indictment. and so we're going to have to either hear from merrick garland, smith, or we're going to have to hear from someone that has direct knowledge as to why they're going after donald trump and not others. and and so that two-tiered system of justice, neil, we've talked about it before, is, i think, the biggest issue here. that plus the interplay and a

lot of legal people have been talking about this, but i think there's an important question on the presidential records act versus the espionage act and how those interplay. and i don't think until the supreme court ultimately hears this case and these arguments are made that we're going to know the answer to that. neil: you're quite right, the presidential records act allows a president and former president to access document, and that never came up in this 49-page account. but there are some specifics here, matt, that make you wonder. there are some special situations with the former president that just for want of a lacking of legal term the, look, the icky part would be the former president saying, allegedly, in these documents among other things, wouldn't it be better if we just told them, referring to the national archives trying to get the documents back, that we don't have anything here? and when his lawyers told him in may 2020 that he had to comply with a grand jury subpoena seeking the return of these documents, he wouldn't answer. in the same conversation he

apparently praised the lawyer for hillary clinton for what he claimed was the act of deleting those 30,000 e-mails when she was if in government. he did a great job, the former president allegedly said. that's discomfiting, is it not? >> yeah. and, neil, i've signed personally hundreds of indictments when i was a u.s. attorney, and i know, you know, sort of there are ways to write indictments. like you said, i mean, this is made to look as bad as possible. they brought specific examples of evidence, it's a speaking indictment that tries to pile on with a lot of counts to make it look dramatic. let's just say that. i'm just, my point is this is the high water mark for the government -- neil: no, you're absolutely right, i understand that. but are some of the comments themselves dramatic and a 180 from what the former president was saying when he was running for the oval office in 2016?

at the time he was talking about the importance of protecting classified information, recounting at that time that he had said one of the first things we must do is enforce all classification rules and to enforce all laws relating to the handling of classified information. i think it's pretty clear that that didn't happen here. >> yeah. yeah. and, you know, i'm going to say the quiet part out loud, we must protect our national secrets. however, presidents and former presidents especially are just different than, you know, an e3 at the u.s. navy. and, you know, what the president of the united states did, you know, certainly they should have been more careful when moving out of the white house, but there is certainly a period of time, to your bill barr quote, neil, that there needs to be an accommodation, there needs to be a way to sort through the voluminous records of a president. obviously, the national archives

together with the fbi reached a point where where they got frustrated, and and they decided to elevate this to criminal chargeses. and, you know, the question is was with it a one-year -- what's the standard? how long does joe biden, when he lees, how long does he have -- neil: you raise a good point, and it's possible, i'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt. a great lawyer -- >> you're too kind, neil. neil: but the one thing i don't understand is whether the former president understood the gravity of this and the seriousness of deflecting or delaying getting documents back to the government, whether he knew that could be a criminal offense. do you think he did? >> right. well, i don't want to get inside the mind of donald trump, but i will tell you that i think if you look at what happened in this period of time, he thought he was under the presidential records act and probably was being told that by his, you know, lawyers. and all of a sudden, the fbi

determined that he was under the espionage act even if he's a former president. again, that is not explained in this indictment. the federal government has not explained it, and i still just point to that i'm very concerned when, you know, when former presidents and former e leaders and current leaders of political parties are targeted by administrations. it's just, it's the natural way and i'm not saying that anybody is above the law, but we have to have equal justice under the law, and i fear for what this portends for the future of our country. and it's going to take a lot of statesmen and stateswomen to put this back together. neil: we shall see. matthew whitaker, very good having you on. former acting u.s. attorney general. thank you, matt. there are some basic requirements to become president of the united states, actually three fit the bill. you've got to be at least 35 years old, you have to be born in this country, you have to have lived the last 14 years of your life in this country. so on those standards, donald trump is ready to go. even if he's indicted. even if he's convicted.

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♪ neil: all right, the president is going -- the former president, donald trump, is going to be in georgia, north carolina today, the first opportunity for large audiences. in fact, soldout audiences to hear what he has to say about his indictments that went down down the, the first federal charges that have been made against a former president in history. but the president has popped up on his social site truth social saying: america went to sleep last night with tears in its eyes. someday soon, however, it will be able to wipe away those tears and smile bigger than ever before. for we will have defeated the radical left marxists, fascists, communists, lunatics and deranged maniacs and cleared a path to put america first and quickly make america great again. wonder what doug burgum makes of that, the latest to enter the

presidential race, governor of north dakota. good to have you back. >> great to be with you, neil. neil: i know you and others have spoken to the won't -- and i don't want to misquote you -- a weaponization of government to go over an individual, but there is a lot of smoke there, there is a lot of things he did there that maybe he did not know were potentially criminal, but they raise questions about why so many documents, why so reluctant to turn them over, why store them the way you did, apparently lie about what you were doing to give them back. a lot of questionable behavior there. what do you think? >> well, the eyes of the world are on the united states, and when we're, you know, potentially weaponizing the department of justice to go after a former president, not just a former president, but a former president who's running for, to become president again and that justice department is being driven by the leading candidate of the opposite party, i mean, this is the kind of stuff that we never thought would happen in america.

and so i think it's a dangerous precedent and, of course, it's -- i'm sure what the democrats want is to have the whole nation talking about -- neil: but is it only political? the president was not charged with mishandling any of the classified documents that he returned to the national archives under the records administration. he was only charged when he refused to turn over what authorities had sought. so it makes you think a had he just done what he was supposed to do and turned over the documents, none of this, none of this weaponization or whatever would be going on. >> well, we don't know that. you're speculating, neil. but what we do know -- neil: well, i know what came out in the indictment, right? it had nothing to do with documents that were handed over, it had everything to do with documents that never were. >> yeah. well, i can just tell you when we're on the road in iowa the last two days and here in new hampshire talking about the economy, energy policy, national security, those are the things that are hitting every american

every single day. and to the extent that the democrats want everybody in the nation to be talking about the as opposed to the future, that's good for them because then we're not talking about biden's disastrous record on the economy, on energy or national security. neil: you're, no do you want, right on a lot of that -- no doubt, but you're also down, what, 40, 50 points behind the president right now, and you've got a lot of ground to make up. you have nothing to lose just going to question a lot of the things that were raised here. and to separate yourself from what's going on there. when you glom onto a view that this is all a weaponization, it might even be the case, you really can't distinguish yourself. and yet you do have a great record. you're a billionaire, you're a rags to riches story. you've been a very productive governor in north dakota. but on this, you seem to be more vanilla in line with the standard party response, ask i just wonder if a guy with your skill set and business

background, you could pick apart this and see the weaponization part but the other part too and raise it on the stump. >> well, neil, thank you for those kind words, but again, i think we're -- this is, this interview is an example of what the democrats love which is all we're talking about is the past. when you talk to actual voters on the ground in iowa the last two days -- neil: but you're running for the republican nomination, governor. other republicans are going to talk about it too, and they want to see where you are in the field, whether you agree with someone like a chris christie who seems to say that there's something of substance here, that this is, you know, the former president's own doing or asa hutchinson, the arkansas governor, the former governor who's running for the same job you want with, saying this means that donald trump should step out of the race. i'm not saying you have to echo what they're saying, but they're talking about it. your thoughts. >> well, sure, they are, neil. and again, when i was a ceo and

when we were doing a start-up and we were trying to create differentiation about the first trade show i went to when we had this tiny start-up, there were 64 other companies doing the same thing. we didn't come out of the box and say here's what -- nobody knows who we are, nobody knows our product, let's talk about what the other 64 companies are doing wrong. you talk about what you can bring to the party, what you've got of value. and the things that we're talking about to the voters or in the republican primary are about the things that they're worried about. they're worried about inflation, they're worried about the price of gas, they're worried about the border, and that's what we're -- neil: but they're worried about this too, governor. 54% of americans think if this stuff is true, at least criminal issues they're concerning enough they're worried about it. why can't you as a guy running for president distinguish yourself and say, all right, if you had a is situation like this, would you do what the former president did? >> well, when i'm president, there's going to be an equal application of the law because i think the concern that the

voters have about this is that there's a double standard. is there going to be one principle that's applied to republicans and another principle that's applied to democrats. and i think that's a very legitimate concern that people have. but this is a -- in america you're innocent until proven guilty. and so right now this terms of our campaign -- in terms of our campaign, we need to focus on the things that matter the most to the most number of americans, the economy, energy and national security. neil: all right. and clearly, for the time being, not this. governor, thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you, neil. neil: all right. stay with us. lowe's knows you never come in for just one thing. so we've got to know a lot of things about a lot of things. like which mower makes the cut. the mulch that finishes the look. and picking a color that pops. you got this. we got you. type 2 diabetes? discover the power of 3 in the ozempic® tri-zone. ♪ (oh, oh, oh, ozempic®!) ♪ in my ozempic® tri-zone, i lowered my a1c, cv risk,

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neil: well, finally at least in much of the northeast the smoke has cleared from those wildfires still raging in canada, i think

better than 300 still out of control, 189 in question beck alone. the race is on, back on, there were some doubts in belmont whether we'd ever see this day just a few days ago. janice dean with more on that. hey, janice. janice: hi, neil. i had no doubt that we were going to have clear skies for this race. you know, lucky though because wednesday we had the worst air quality in new york city. but the winds have shifted. instead of coming from the north where we have all those fires still currently burning across canada, now we have a southerly flow, and it is really a spectacular day for the 155th annual belmont stakes taking place on fox for the very first time. post time is 7:02, and yesterday i got to speak to a legend, a hedge jend horse caller. he's been doing it for over 40 years. he retired almost 10 years ago, but tom during rkin is back in the announcer booth to call this race, and i got to speak with

him. take a look. >> this booth has been here since 1964. mis: wow. and you called races -- >> oh, this was home. janice: will you be looking at the monitor or -- >> no, i look at the horses through 15 power by nonlahrs. janice: we have to talk about the colored pens. what do you do with this? >> i color in on the program, here's what the program is going to look like, and, you know, tapping shoes is going to be yellow with a pink hat, and then so i'm looking at this, and there really aren't too many that look alike. janice: i i am so excited to see tom call this race. of and, neil, you know, he is one of those people that's very forthcoming. he got out of the business because he had tremendous anxiety about calling races. and when fox sports came to him and said, tom, we'd love for you to come back out of retirement to call this 155th belmont stakes, he said, yes. and he because all sorts of

breathing exercises, a lot of zen moments. he taught he how to breathe. so to see tom during kin back after retirement is really exciting and, of course, this is the first time fox is going to be broadcasting this epic race. we don't have a triple crown winner, but this is the 50th anniversary of the best of all time, secretariat, so we're going to be, certainly, celebrating that incredible race here at belmont. neil: phenomenal. thank you very much for that, or janice. you're such a natural at this. janice dean following all of that. [laughter] dr. marty makary is with us right now because i said the smoke is cleared, but there are lingering concerns. by the way, it's cleared in much of the northeast, hasn't cleared everywhere. doctor, good to have you. what do you do or what do you recommend to people now that they think it's clear outside and in most places it's fine now, but it hasn't completely gone, so what do you tell them? >> well, good morning, neil. you know, one of the greatest

hazards of this smoke has been motor vehicle accidents. and when people think of the danger of the smoke, most of it's related to the visibility. the sort of medical harm from the smoke is related to the duration of the direct exposure. and there are some people with asthma and respiratory disease, they're still having a little shortness of breath or some irritation of the respiratory tract. you know, if you're on an asthma medication, take an extra puff. every -- now and then somebody come to the emergency room with shortness of breath and they get a steroid treatment or nebulizer. but, by and large, the medical harm is proportional directly to the duration of exposure t not like you're going to catch a virus being out and exposed to it for five minutes and then you test positive. this is something cheerily related to the duration -- clearly related to the duration. i think we tend to see medical harms now in extremes particularly after the politicization of covid where it's all or nothing, it's always

wear a mask, never wear a mask. the reality is that this is something that is clearly relational to the duration of exposure, and that duration has been short for the vast majority of americans. neil: all right. meanwhile in canada can, especially in the eastern part of the country, that's an ongoing situation. so for those residents, you'd say? >> yeah. so there's a good example where you've got some prolonged exposure. and and, you know, during the covid pandemic we told people there's clearly a distribution of risk, right? the young, healthy people are in a very different risk profile. go check on those who are at risk. go check on those who are older, senior, vulnerable, have asthma and make sure they're okay, see if they need food, go buy food for them. if you are young and healthy, you've got a physiologic reserve that means you're resilient to this wildfire smoke, and you want to check on those who are particularly vulnerable especially in those areas where now in canada there's a prolonged exposure. neil: wise words, all. doctor, great catching up with you.

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>> i had gone down there expecting to see, you know, the kind of prototypical, essential american refugee from guatemala, el salvador and nicaragua, but that's not what's happening. these are people who have,

because of the open border policies, they have -- they're now being, they'ring being with called and summonedded from all over the world. there's advertisements in these countries that it's easy to get into the united states. neil: donald trump, who leads for the republican nomination, he was an advocate of building a wall, shutting down the border. you know, he had mixed success there, but the republicans argue much better success than we're seeing now. how would you differentiate yourself from that approach? >> well, you know, i actually think some of the things that trump did, as much as i opposed them at that time and i still oppose a wall all the way, i don't think we need a 2200-mile wall, and the border patrol people i talked to don't believe that either. but you do need surveillance on that, you know, that -- most of the border. and we need a physical barrier in the -- neil: he was right, he was right about that. you're more in agreement with

his approach than you are with president biden's approach to, it would seem. >> i am on this particular issue. neil: you know, we talk about the border and the concern that's largely along party lines about what's happening there, democrats not so much, republicans very much. but there's a crack there when an rfk jr. comes out and tells me as he did and visits the border the that we've got a serious problem there and it will get the better of us if we don't do something soon and fast. no comment from the white house on what the challenger to the president has said on all of this. want to go to chris oliveras, the texas d. of public safety -- department of public safety, trying to deal with this issue head on. you know, chris, i was thinking a lot about what robert f. kennedy jr. was saying, and it echoes a lot of what you've been saying. what's remarkable isn't you saying because you've been consistent on it, it's another thing when a prominent

democratic presidential candidate says it. do you think that is a turning event? >> i believe so, neil. that was a great interview, by the way. just the fact that, you know, robert kennedy jr. actually went to the border, was actually at the border, you know, 2 a.m. where you see all the activity, especially there in arizona, got to see people crossing the border, that's what's needed on both sides. of course, that's why this shouldn't be a political issue, because this issue affects the entire country. just seeing that, you know, in itself really shows that it is a turning point. and i think that's what's needed. but, of course, we've been doing it, you know, for the past two years, governor abbott's been doing it for over two years now. now to see somebody from the other party actually go to the border, talk to officials and have an understanding, actually agree with the previous leadership what was working really goes to sew show you everything we've been saying has been consistent and really goes to show what works in order to stop this border situation and really put something in place to secure the border. neil: well, what's interesting,

and maybe you can tell he a little bit about it, chris, is this new thing that the governor set up in the rio grande river. it almost looks like a pool if divider you see in a lot of, you know, swimming zones in various communities. but tell me what's going on here, what this is all about. >> well, this is just another added layer of defense, neil. we saw what we did in brownsville, texas, or during the week of time 42, we were able to use our state troopers, national guard and place razor wire along the river and actually stop thousands of potential crossings in that particular area and actually redistrict some of those immigrants back -- redirect back to mexico. we carried that strategy to eagle pass, texas, what you're seeing where this actual barrier's going to be placed. this is a water barrier. it's going to contain 4-foot buoys that will be placed in the middle of the river. of course, we've seen many drownings over the years especially when some of the correspondents have been down there reporting on it. now this is going to prevent

potential illegal crossings between the ports of entry and most importantly prevent drownings and those smugglers who are bringing people across on rafts. it's going to be nearly impossible to cross that river. an unprecedented action by governor abbott to stem that flow of mass migration. and, you know, this is a strategy we're going to carry on throughout the texas border. it goes to show how texas has stepped up in the absence of the federal government where really this is something they could have done, but they refused to do it. we'll find ways to enhance operations, and that's a good example of how we're able to actually step up and take over what the federal government should be doing, and that is secure the border. neil: can you swim under it, chris? >> it'll be with very difficult. neil, i can tell you it's nearly impossible to get around that a barrier. you have to be a very, very skilled swimmerrer, and even fen that -- swimmer, that that makeses it more challenging. we'll have technology, manpower in that area, so it's going to

be nearly impossible to get across that barrier. i'm very confident and we're confident as a state that this is the next step as far as, you know, barriers to enhance border security. you lay layer that with razor or wire, with the border wall, with boot withs on the ground, it's going to be a very effective strategy. neil: how are we doing on the migrant front? much was made when title 42 went away and we had the surge, that was briefly dealt with, but i'm curious how things are looking right now. >> well, the numbers have subsided, that's clear. i think right now the daily encounters that i just saw most recently, this morning, were anywhere from 3500-4000 which normally we were seeing 7-8,000. so the numbers have subsided but, again, we have to look at what the administration's doing. right now they're releasing the majority of these immigrants at the ports of entry which the use of the app, they give them a notice to appear. but they don't show up for the court date. we are still dealing with human smuggling, the drugs that are

coming across. just over the past two years with operation lone star, our troopers have made over 29,000 criminal arrests or 418 million lethal doses of fentanyl statewide. clearly, there's a lot of great work that's been done by our personnel and, of course, the work has not stopped. we're going to continue to move forward. the governor just signed some legislative bills, we've got another $4-5 billion for border security, so we're going to continue moving forward enhancing our operations because we have to maintain the posture we have because the border is still not secured, and we have to step in. we have to do something. and until the federal government does actually step in and put some consequences in place, we're going. to continue filling that void. neil: so the 3500 or so a day, i don't want to misquote you, lieutenant, so while that looks a lot better than 7,000 plus that we were seeing, i can remember a time covering you and and talk to you when it was a few hundred a day. so we have to put in perspectivn perspective. how long do you think in this

lasts? >> well, that's a great question. the numbers have been good luck -- fluctuating, typically over the she months we see the increase. but we work with border patrol very closely, or also with national guard, and we're still dealing with that aspect if of the border as well, those gotaways. that has not changed. human smuggling has not changed. the drugs that are coming across, suspected cartel members, all that is still taking place along the border, but we're just not seeing those large groups when you have hundreds and thus crossing the river hawaii that's not taking place because, again, the administration wants to hide those negative optickings. what better way to do that, by releasing immigrants at the ports of entry where majority don't meet the criteria for aeye lumbar -- asylum. economic reasons is not a reason to be released into the country. that's another abuse that's been taking place, but we don't see that. so, again, we're still dealing with that criminal aspect and that's the main part of our public safety. neil got it. chris, always good talking to

the to you. lieutenant chris oliveras, texas department of public safety. in the meantime, want to go along the west coast and you might be noticing we've got a bit of a cargo container crisis going on. all packed up but no place to go. it's a labor dispute this time, and it could last a lot longer than the last time. i'll explain after this. ♪ hit it ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a thing go right ♪ ♪ it takes two to make it outta sight ♪ ♪ one, two, get loose now ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a... ♪ stay two nights and get a $ 50 best western gift card. book now at bestwestern.com.

neil: on the west coast, it could be a case of cargo, oh, no, here we go again. last time we saw cargo stacked up, no place to go, was during covid. very different events going on right now. kelly o'grady in los angeles with more. kelly. >> reporter: well, it's good to see you, neil, and that's right. you know, we could art to see a traffic jam -- start to see a traffic jam at the port. we remember how impactful that was on our supply chain crisis

and inflation as well. this congestion is brewing because of labor negotiations that started may of last year. we have started to see some delays here. six ships that week, that technically moves us past normal to what's called a stressed maritime supply chain. but for context, this is nothing like we saw during covid where we had over 100 ships waiting in the harbor there. i did speak to the port of los angeles, they have seen some slowdowns at trucking gates, but their terminals are overall operational. up 22,000 union workers -- you have 22,000 union workers, there's a lot of green pushes at the port that have workers concerned for their jobs. the union shared this with fox business, quote, we aren't going to settle for an economic package that doesn't recognize the heroic efforts and personal sacrifices of the work force that lifted the shipping industry to record profits. we haven't seen a prolonged shutdown yet, just pockets of workers striking for a day here and there, but there's brewing concern among retailers and manufacturers because 40 of imports in the country come through these -- 40% -- two

ports here. now, the national retail federation, they've gone so far as to urge the president to step in. they said in this. thousands of retailers and other businesses depend on smooth operations at the ports, we urge the administration to mediate to insure the parties quickly finalize a new contract without additional disruptions. and we're also learning the u.s. chamber is urging the president to step in the as well and appoint a third party mediator. so, neil, certainly a lot of concern brewing about what about economic impact could be if these labor negotiations fail. back to you. neil: all right, kelly, thank you very much for that. of in the meantime, it's one thing when google and microsoft tell workerser get your fannies back into the office, it's another thing when the domestic diva, martha stewart herself -- who made her fortune talking about the stuff she cooks up and deck rates in -- decorates in her home -- is saying get out of your home and get back to work. after this. ♪ ♪

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neil: all right, you can cook at home, you can decorate at home, but9 if the domestic diva, martha stew i wart, is right yot actually work from home. those days are over, says you're destroying the economy while you're at it. she goes on and on here, but suffice it to say she thinks that just like those big corporations like google, microsoft, a lot of banks, enough already. get back to the office. samantha joins us right now, what do you think of what she's saying? >> well, first of all, martha's empire would not have been built on a remote work force for martha putting in a hybrid day. she is a woman who works 100

hours a week and has cone that her entire life -- done that her entire life. so her entire empire was built on hard work, so it's understandable why she thinks it. is she right? is she out of touch? she's out of touch. neil: so if you think about what you just said there, a lot of that was built on what she created at home, which was stunning. and i'm not saying, you know, she has a show and an office, the kitchen, all the rest. so i get that part. but there are a lot of jobs where they're not at least one or two days a week certain members of the work force could continue to work even part time remotely, couldn't they? or no? >> i think what the pandemic showed us is almost any job can be done from home. and whether we're as productive as we were before remains to be seen and probably the trends are saying we are not. but at the same time, we have a culture, we have a generational gap. younger people refuse to spend their lives at work the way people in my generation, the way

people in martha's genre ration did. and -- generation did. and so because of that, people who are middle-aged or older are going to have to adjust their expectations. i think about it almost like fraternity and sorority hazing. the reason it doesn't typically change is because the people who were hazed feel like it's unfair that younger people wouldn't be hazed like they were. and it's a little bit like that when you think of work with ethic and office habits, because we worked our butts off to get where we are, so it's almost unfathomable to see young people say i'd rather just work from my couch. neil: yeah, but it you think about it, it might not be young people. i think 10 million jobs go begging in this country, it doesn't all break to young. i get your point there. i don't know what's going on. it's not as if the economy is soaring, certainly doing much better than conventional wisdom, but that always intrigues me, why so many opt not to take

these available jobs. >> well, we have a tight labor market. we also are one of, you know, the only developed country without national paid leave, so we have a lot of structures in place that make it difficult for people to return to the office five days a week. so unfortunately, our policies do not match this kind of ethos, and so for us, for workers to even consider going back to the office full time, a lot of our policies would need to change. it used to be that people lived to work, and now people work to live. and that is a cultural shift partially because of the pandemic, but it is not going backwards. less than 20% of people want to go back to the office full time, so it, if you are attracting talent, you need to be focused on what the talent wants, and that's a hybrid work environment for the most part. neil: all right. and until that changes, this might not. samantha, thank you very much. >> thank you. neil: all right. in the meantime, this will be

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