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neil cavuto. let's go to nate foy to the president's northern home, if you will. he has the big operation at the trump tower in new york city and this is where he golfs and sleeps and nate is outside the club right now. >> hey, yeah, any moment now if he hasn't already, former president trump will be in the air to georgia. he's speaking at 2:30. his motorcade drove by about 20 minutes ago and this all comes as he faces 37 felony charges for handling of classified documents and numerous occasions accused of showing people the boxes. take a look at the boxes at mar-a-lago and showed four people who did not have security clearances an attack plan and another military operation. take a look at the breakdown, will any retraining national

defense information, withholding and concealing documents, making false statements and conspiracy to obstruct justice. now, the indictment describes an incident where trump was quoted as saying, quote, as president i could have classified it, and now i can't, but it's still a secret. allies and supporters contend he's being unfairly targeted. >> we're going to have to either hear from merrick garland or jack smith or we're going to have to hear from someone that has direct knowledge as to why they're going after donald trump and not others, and so, that two-tiered system of justice, neil, we've talked about it before is the biggest issue here and that, plus the interplay and a lot of legal people have been talking about this, an important question on the presidential records act versus the espionage act and how those interplay and until the supreme court hears those case and the arguments are made, that we're going to know

the answer to that. >> neil, many classified documents were found during the fbi raid of the president's mar-a-lago home and aide faces six felony charges for his handling of the documents. president trump is capitalizing on the indictment urging his supporters to donate to his 2024 campaign. he calls the indictment election interference and referring to it as the box hoax. back out here live, neil, he's expected to appear in miami federal court at tuesday, 3 p.m. neil: thank you for that, nate foy in bedminster. and let's go to north carolina, and the former president will be there as well as georgia today, alexis. >> hi, neil. a lot of people at the g.o.p. convention are looking forward to hearing from former president donald trump. he's expected to have a fiery speech. it's a jampacked 24 hours

before the g.o.p. convention the only that has trump, pence, desantis at the same event. and last night we heard from governor desantis of florida who slammed the doj for this decision saying he's ready to shake things up. >> you've got to be willing to go there on day one and spit nails and with me, you know you'll have a new fbi director on day one, you know we'll clean out all of these agencies. >> now, before trump heads to north carolina tonight, the former president speaking at the georgia g.o.p. convention in a state where he faces criminal charges there related to allegations of election interference in 2020. this is trump's first public appearance since learning that he's facing 37 federal charges in florida and that second indictment. north dakota governor burgum is running for president and another candidate against the indictment. >> the eyes of the world are on the united states and when we're potentially weaponizing

the department of justice to go after a former president, not just a former president, but a former president who's running for -- to become president again and that justice department is being driven by the leading candidate of the opposite party, i mean, this is the kind of stuff that you never thought would happen in america. >> trump's former running mate vice-president mike pence will take the stage here soon in greensboro as democrats and republicans are focused on winning over voters in the battle ground state. the tarheel state has a large number of independent voters. back live, vice-president mike pence, the former vice-president, we'll listen closely if he has anything to do about the indictment. and it's been sold out and many are trying to listen through the doors to hear what trump is going to say about the indictment, neil. neil: i could understand. all right. alexis mcadams, thank you very much.

let's go to john yu, the former assistant attorney general, john, good to see you. help me out with this and the process, similar to the alvin bragg one, different? how does it go down? >> hi, neil, it's great to be with you, like you and martha stewart we need to be working in the office all the time and in the studio. neil: i hear you. >> i think what's going to happen is similar to what you saw with al bragg's prosecution of the president in new york city earlier this year. president biden is going to miami federal district court, not state court, and get processed and then the most important thing, he's going to be presented in court and read the indictment and going to have to make a plea, plea, i expect in the course, he's going to plead not guilty. i expect the judge will release him on bail and he'll be able to leave pretty quickly. the thing i would worry about and i was worried about this with new york and i think you

were worried about it, too, didn't materialize, are there going to be protests? i hope not. fighting between pro trump and anti-president trump people? i hope not. is he going to go down the front steps and add fuel to the disruption? i hope he doesn't, but i could see it's attractive to make a fiery speech after being arrested, processed and indicted by the federal government. neil: let me ask you about something jack smith mentioned the prosecutor in this case, the push for a speedy trial. of course, anything, even a few months from now, you're knee deep in the presidential primaries and race, but that already, i believe it's next march, that the criminal trial would start. so, this could get busy and i'm wondering whether that timeline

is realistic? >> neil, that's something we all should be worrying about, how does the schedule of a trial overlay on the political calendar? if this were a normal trial, it could be a doomsday scenario and you could of the criminal trial in the courtroom actually starting and going forward around the time of the political conventions, around the time when people are going to be voting as delegates of the convention whether to have president trump run again. you could see jury deliberations going on around september, october, right before the election. now, look, the speedy trial is actually considered a right that's supposed to benefit the defendant, so that the government doesn't throw you in jail and sit on your case while you waste away. usually defendants don't want a speedy trial, they want to waive that right to spend more time and money on their defense. look, i think there's a lot of risk here. president trump may want to

gamble and may want the trial to go on the same time as our political calendar is going forward, but also, people are not mentioning the big risk the justice department is running. what if trump wins? i think they're almost guaranteeing-- i'm sorry, what if doj loses and trump wins? i think the doj could almost hand the presidency to trump if trump is acquitted by a jury. neil: what if he loses found guilty on one or multiple counts in either trial, the judge in either case could remand him to prison, couldn't he? >> it's a great point. it's a risk, but i could see why someone like president trump might run it, he might think even if i get convicted i kind of win it only enhances the story that i'm being persecuted. the deep state, the justice department, the jury is out to get him. neil: let's say it goes as far as that, can you still run for president if convicted of a

crime. >> luckily, we haven't had to face that in our history. under the constitution, you can. the only thing that prevents you from running from president again is being impeached and in some way disqualified from office, this is a really interesting question and people haven't really been talking about it yet. suppose he does get convicted, suppose a judge does sentence him, does he become disqualified under the 14th amendment from running for office again? i would say not because the 14th amendment requires you to have committed treason or and the charges he's being charged with her don't rise to that level, or insurrection. the january 6th investigation, suppose jack smith brings another case against trump. neil: working on that concurrently. suppose you're in jail, working on that extreme, but curious. he's in jail, gets support and elected to the president of the united states, and we get to the point that he's the

republican nominee and beats the democrat nominee. can you be elected from jail? >> the quick constitutional answer, yes, nothing that prohibits you running from jail. here is the pressure that's going to be, judge cannon. suppose trump is convicted, judge cannon is going to ask, can my trial donald trump be allowed to go free while appeal. there are serious appeals questions. and the thing that jack smith did not address in the press conference are the deep constitutional issues here, overriding the attorney-client privilege, overriding of executive privilege, and records act, and all those could go on appeal. judge canon could say while those go up maybe to the supreme court i'll let president trump stay out on his own recognizance to run his

campaign, but sometimes they're in jail. neil: thank you, john yoo, the former assistant attorney general. the basic requirements to run for president of the united states. i can't stress them enough. they're simple and our founders never entertained these possibilities. you have to be 35 years old. born in this country, spend the last 14 years in this country, and that is it. nothing more, nothing less. all of this other stuff is drama they've never considered. we'll explore the fund raising potential for the former president as well as those who want to beat him for the republican nomination after this. i bought the team! kevin...? i put it on my chase freedom unlimited card. and i'm gonna cashback on a few other things too. starting with the sound system... [autotune] that's caaaaaaaaash. cashback like a pro with chase freedom unlimited. how do you cashback?

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it's unknown on these charges on the former president. and joining us is a great history of student on this matter. noel, great to have you. first for the president and the fun raising and maybe the bump in the polls he could get from this. too soon to tell? what do you think? >> i think it's already happening now. there are fund raising e-mails going out and i woke up to one this morning telling supporters if you stand with me you will donate. we need all of your support, we need all of your financial support, and this is where you see a lot of the small dollar donors that come in to try to show their loyalty to donald trump. he is appealing to that base so when you see the fund raising tolls, it's very, very important that you pay attention to the amounts being raised because if you're seeing those small increments, that means that that momentum is

building for donald trump. he's already ahead in the primary in the polls. neil: right. >> but the fund raising is really going to gather a lot of momentum especially after they feel that he is being targeted and picked upon. neil: let me ask you for his opponents. most have supported him and called various criticisms of weaponizing to go after him. not all. chris christie says the indictment is evidence-filled and devastating. and asa hutchinson, the indictment, enough for the former president to step out of the race. obviously that's not going to happen. how do you see it falling out right now, as far as donors to those candidates or potential donors? >> well, i tell you, that's a great point that you brought up, neil. there are two things with both of those types of candidates. you're not probably going to see a big push with the small dollar donor. you're not going to see big

momentum for both christie and hutchinson. what you may see are some pretty major donors, sick and tired of trump, that do not like trump, do not like what he stands for so looking at chris christie or asa hutchinson for some sort of alternative and they want to boost them because they agree with their message so you would see a bump in their fund raising totals, neil, but you would see it mainly from a large donor. much like when you say desantis come out and he had initially raised that $8 million. five of it was given from ken griffin, who is a major, major donor. neil: now, i imagine if you're a major donor and if you're one of the prominent candidates, obviously, desantis is the second most so, but a distant second i should point out, you want to be careful how far you go. you hope that donald trump implodes, right, that he either can't run or that there gets to be indictment fatigue,

especially if other cases results in the same type of treatment. so, how are they playing that? >> that's a great point and i'll tell you, as we all know, in the media, donald trump has very thin skin and if he sees somebody stroke a check to someone that's anti-trump, someone like a christie or a hutchinson, he will remember that and if he can come through this entire process and end up, you know, coming through clean in the primary and going onto the general and let's just say he wins the general, he will remember that. he is very, very thin-skinned when it comes to people that are against him in the beginning. so, any of those donors that are going to come out big and strong to someone with an anti-trump message. desantis is not anti-trump, but he says i'll be better in the general because i don't have

all of this baggage. hutchinson has said get out, get out of the race and chris christie saying you're a distraction. both of those are anti-trump, any major donor that comes out and gives to both of these candidates versus trump, it will be payback time and they all know it. neil: i guess it will. the question, can you endure that and go ahead and roll the dice, especially if you're 40 or 50 points down in the polls to try that. noel, nikpour, nice seeing you again. neil: new york has a drug crisis, a migrant crisis, how it's addressing both might strike you as odd, very odd, after this. veteran homeownes to combat today's rising prices. lower your monthly payments with the three c's: pay down your credit cards, pay off your car loan, consolidate your debt with a va home loan from from newday.

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smoke we're getting from wildfires up in canada. it's dissipated a bit, but not gone. it moves around a lot. and meteorologist extraordinare, craig, where do we stand with this now? >> great to see you, neil. it looks likes it's improving, it's moving and some of the midwest is dealing with smoke, but it's high up in the atmosphere. a rundown of what happened. remember all of those wildfires going on in canada? a counter clock-wise rotation and caused hazy conditions, red skies, filtered out of the greens and blues of the color and all we saw was red sky going into wednesday. and indianapolis, inside of buffalo, air quality that's going to be an issue for anyone with upper respiratory problems, maybe the elderly or the young. look at this, as we track the smoke, the good news, the winds are shifting direction and

pushing back into canada. however, a lot of wildfires from british columbia, alberta, clear over to quebecen some of that smoke will give you a bright sunrise and sunset over places like montana. this is impressive, i can't believe this when we're talking about this, 253 fires burning right now that are greater than 100 acres in canada. so far, 10 million acres have burned, plus. good news is, there is some rain in the forecast and a couple of systems to watch that will bring some rain to the midwest for us and portions of the northeast, as it spins up to the north and we've got a few more rounds of energy and we'll bring rain back up into canada. that will help, but when you think of how many acres have burned so far. when we look ahead through wednesday most of this darker shade of green, one to two inches of rain, locally two to three and i wish we could send it up north and every little bit will help and it should keep the skies clear and doing better here in the united

states. neil: thank you for that, craig, have a great weekend. craig herrera following those developments. new yorkers forget they were not this hot and bothered by things looking hot and orange in the city. vending machines that help deal with drug habits were another source of, let's say concern. cb cotton has more from new york. cb. >> neil, the public health vending machine behind me is the first of its kind here in new york city. inside it you'll find kits like this to reverse a drug overdose and contraceptives, but there are items inside that the city says will make using drugs safer. the machine was unveiled on monday and reportedly emptied out overnight. inside items like crack pipes, lip balm. fentanyl testing strips and opioid reversal drug narcan. all the items are free and type in a new york city zip code. city officials say with this

machine that they're trying to save lives. a sad statistic, every three hours a new yorker dies from an overdose and there are plans to place three more machines just like this one, in neighborhoods ravished by overdose deaths. >> so there is a shelf life for the materials and that's why we'll be checking it regularly and so excited to put it on one of our sites. we have an office down the block where you can come get services or helps or people on site to check and restock. >> at least 18 other states and washington d.c. have debuted similar narcan vending machines, not everyone is on board with this concept. new york city republican congresswoman slamming the machine as quote, something out of a dystopian science fiction novel arguing we're spending much, too much money trying to support people's addictions instead of putting necessary resources into rehabilitation and other services.

now, city officials say future machines could also include syringes to inject heroin and other drugs. neil, we've reached out to city leaders how often they plan on restocking the machine behind me. we haven't yet heard back. back to you. neil: thank you, cb cotton for that. completing the list of growing concerns for new yorkers, this plan on the part of mayor eric adams dealing with the migrant problem in the state and particularly the city, floating an idea that will offer residents some amount of money to house some of the asylum speakers in their homes. and joe, what is this about and can he do this? >> he can, there's certainly no prohibition of putting people in residentially owned properties. that's allowed. the problem this is being welcomed by almost no one in new york city. no one is jumping down the street in joy, hoping to get

more migrants in their building. you know, as well as most people, that new yorkers live many times in dense, high rise buildings. this essentially is turning your building because your neighbor wants to make a few bucks, into a homeless shelter for people who have come here illegally. that's not something that a lot of new yorkers are willing to tolerate. if you're stuck next to a bad neighbor who wants to make the quick buck, it's unfortunate for you because there's almost no way to stop it. neil: you know, new york is a sanctuary city, so it's behaving like a sanctuary city. the surge in migrants has sort of tested that. i know there are other ideas out there, on average when we house them in hotels cost a minimum of $300 a night. i'm sure city residents will be footing that bill when all is said and done, but this could get very expensive, joe. >> yeah, yeah, i mean, but you did point out, this is almost less expensive than the hotel situation we have. i mean, that hotel problem we have now is costing more than

the fdny and more than the fdny and department of sanitation combined to give scale. the mayor has to do to offload some of the costs or reduce them. he should be going back to the court of appeals, the highest court. reverse the callaghan decision, turns us into the world's refugee camp. that was never the intention and by some democrats who supported it in the past never intended it to this scale. neil: that's an understatement. nice to see you. the republican city leader and the surge in migrants where you've got to do something, to honor your role as a sanctuary city and by the way we did reach out to the new york city mayor eric adams and hope to hear back from him soon. hope springs eternal.

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miles off our shore and permitting another foreign nation to establish a facility that close to us. neil: the cubans say this isn't happening, we say this isn't happening, the chinese say this isn't happening. something is going on there were reports china want to establish an espionage base in cuba, 90 miles off the coast of florida. and it wouldn't be as soviet union, but some the same. the white house statement doesn't go to the details of this. let's go to the author of so many more, on this apartment cuban missile crisis type issue, potentially. what do you make of this? >> well, neil, 20th of may, interior minister of cuba and

counterpart from china met to discuss some issues, security related issues and i suspect something from that, an after-action, perhaps, triggered the wall street journal's report on this. now, if you understand that the chinese have been conducting for decades unrestricted warfare against the u.s. and a major aspect of that is of course, espionage. they use cyber, they use spy balloons, flying over the united states, they use our education establishment, they buy off politicians, and it's according to the fbi, every 12 hours it opens a new counter intelligence investigation against chinese entities. now, having said that, recognize that the cubans are in desperate situation. they haven't had the economic crisis we're facing today for decades. in fact, it would appear, based upon reports that the cuban military is really driving, you know, a lot of decisions in that country.

so when you get the bigger picture here and recognize that china is very pervasive all over south america as well as central america, the panama canal and the caribbean, it's hard to reject this report. it does seem to be credible. neil: so, the difference, i'm told, even some were pooh-poohing it this past week, colonel, it's not as if they're building missile launch sites and the rest the case with the soviet union in 1962, this is the espionage for from structure to spy on us, that's explained to me. no fuss, no muss. >> i'm not reassured. >> neither am i. the chinese ballistic program with nuclear ballistic weapons was on a steady path and all of

a sudden, six months ago it rapidly accelerated. are the chinese now thinking of weaponizing some of the regional allies they've built through belt and road initiative? their economic leverage program across the world. it's also noteworthy that the chinese have had, based on media reports, a radar facility just south of havana all, you know and that's not coincidental, i don't think. near where the soviet union had a facility, also, up until 2002 and now we understand the russians are talking about reopening that facility. you know, all of this is happening, neil, as there's a perception abroad, right or wrong, that the united states is weakened. and i think there's some evidence of that. neil: amazing stuff. colonel, thank you very much. and you might be confused what you're looking at there. these are training videos out of china, the chinese communist

party not an attack on the island of cuba itself. in case somebody saw that, oh, they're here, what do we do. you probably heard now that banks are using artificial intelligence in a lot of ways, including customer service. what could possibly go wrong? the bureau director says what a lot. tell us what's going on here and about the risks here? >> well, we're seeing all parts of the interaction with consumers. when it comes to banks, people might be talking to sandy, erica or amy, but it's not a human, it's a bot. one of the things we underscored in our analysis is that we need to make sure that the data, that sensitive data that's given is protected, that when things are complicated,

you don't get stuck in the doom loop, and that you can actually get help, especially when you've been a victim of identity theft or fraud. neil: you know, this far better than i, director. i actually heard one of these chat bots, whatever you want to call them, sounded like the real mccoy like i'm talking to a real individual. and that was what was disturbing. it then dawned on me, wait a minute, i am not talking to a human being. >> you're talking about something generative ai, the production of voices, video, other content and so, what we find is that people, when they have a pretty simple question, they can often get a straight forward answer, but as soon as it gets a little bit complicated, and let's be honest, it often does, whether it's a flight cancellation or a mysterious charge on your bank account, you often need help and you need help quickly.

and i really worry that we're shifting away from relationship banking into this algorithmic banking where maybe there's no access to a human at all and all the while, so much of our sensitive data is being sucked up, maybe to train other ai bots. so, we're cautioning banks that deploy these, we want them to make sure they're doing it the right way, and we hope that it's not a reason to cut off access to a human when you really need help. neil: but, a lot of them have been cutting off access to humans and you know that better than anyone, you wait forever to talk to a human on a help line and it's not just financial institutions and they might come back, better dealing with this new ai than no one, so, there. what do you say?

>> well, i think we saw this a while ago when the off-shoring trend really accelerated. lots of call center representatives were no longer in the community, they were overseas. it was a way to reduce costs and often, you've got to wonder, when call wait times are so long, are they doing that so that you are almost forced to use the bot? and again, many cases, you might get a good answer, especially if it's something simple, where is my closest branch? where is the closest atm. but what if you do have a serious error that needs urgent attention? you know, we have state and nonstate actors trying to get our personal data all the time and that's where fraud and identity theft can be a real harm. we want to make sure that people can get help and they can exercise their legal

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crash, investigators found the plane, along with the mom, the pilot and the co-pilot. they were all deceased, but the kids were all missing. so the people began to wonder what happened to them? now we know. reports say the authorities believed the indigenous children survived because they knew how to navigate the jungle or one of them did, or they could have had local help. we'll keep you posted on the amazing story. i can picture a lot of hollywood types standing in line to get on the production deal to make that a movie and a stunning one. it's all true. just amazing. you often hear the back and forth when it comes to ufo's, unidentified flying objects and what the government knows and doesn't know. now reports of a whistleblower that had details on this and might have gotten shut down and fortunately, alexa who have

has this. >> the ascertain that congress had been kept in the dark about ufo. uap's they're calling now. and a whistleblower, and he details that the government had been retrieving partially and fully intact non-human vehicles and he spoke out on monday. >> when you say crash retrieval. what do you mean? >> these are retrieving non-human origin technical vehicles, call it spacecraft, if you will. it's probably not the right parlance, but no kidding, non-human, exotic origin vehicles either landed or crashed. >> he's an afghanistan combat veteran served on the aerial task force. and he provided congress

information believing it was wrongly withheld, he launched a complaint saying he was retaliated against. >> i want to know what he's talking about so i'll definitely be asking the questionsment i don't have the answers at the moment and when i get the answers, i can't tell you it will be classified, but we'll definitely be looking for those answers. >> lawmakers are intrigued by this. multiple credible high level sources have come forward claiming that the government is indeed in possession of at least a dozen non-human crafts. >> the descriptions range from the classic disc shape to triangular shape to another person described one of the ships as sort of a modified huey helicopter or deep sea submarine. these are all people that are sane, highly intelligent, in position to know and also cleared at high levels of

security clearance. they were very anxious and speaking with me. i protected their identities, didn't even reveal their genders or the institutions that they work for. >> yeah, so more people speaking up about this and a spokesperson for the department of defense told fox digital this week there is no verifiable information to substantiate claims at this point, neil. neil: i understood all of this, alexandria very well. in the meantime, donald trump faces a 37-count indictment over his handling of classified documents. that's not all he's facing. separately state prosecutors in georgia are considering filing charges over the former president's efforts to apparently overturn the 2020 election results. that's something that jack smith is looking at at a federal level. georgia secretary of state is next. never come in for just one thing. so we've got to know a lot of things about a lot of things. like which mower makes the cut.

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>> all right. i'll give you a live shot of columbus, georgia. donald trump will be visiting there, first live appearance in georgia after the justice department indicted him on handling of classified documents. and honored to have brad raffensperger, georgia secretary of state. glad to have you. will you be going to this event? no, i'm not going to this event today. neil: i heard and i didn't mean to be coy, that you weren't invited that they didn't want to see you at this event. >> exactly. for some reason. and state republican office holders weren't invited to that event. neil: what do you make of that? >> the party has to be coalesced and we need to be

focused on broad-based coalitions. i had the largest winning percentage of any republican statewide office holder and that's how republicans win not only in georgia, but niationwide particularly as things are more competitive. neil: and i don't want to pile on. you showed enormous character and whether people agree or disagree with what happened to president trump, you and the governor were reelected. what could be happening in your state, ironically, mr. secretary, looking to what the president did to influence the vote or the recount going on. are there possible charges pending there? >> you'd have to pull in the d.a. but i believe in the rule of low and that's a bed rock principle of america and should be of every republican that runs for office. neil: we do know that jack smith, the prosecutor in this classified document case,

secretary, is investigating those possible efforts on a federal level. so we could be having, by the end of the summer, yet another series of indictments on this matter and i'm leaving out the whole january 6th issue. so, some of these cases are piling up fast, if that happens. what do you make of all of this? >> like i said, i support the rule of law and i think that republicans and republican party would be best served if we'd find leaders that are principled when they hold themselves up, and that's the type of people that we should be nominating for high offices in this country. when we do that, we're going to have great success. >> could you support donald trump, secretary, if he were the republican nominee for president? >> i've been pretty darn clear about that. what i'm looking for is someone that's a principled leader with integrity because integrity does work. i've shown that it works. character, honesty, and the ability to engage in civil

discourse instead of creating division, creating some unity, looking at a common purpose, a common american vision so we can get things done for all of america. neil: so you would not, you would not support donald trump. >> like i said we're looking for principled leadership up and down the line the highest level. that needs to be a position of high character. neil: so, i know, governor brian kemp is not invited to this event or not attending this event as well so there does still seem to be a split in georgia. you were both overwhelmingly, in particular your case, reelected. i wonder if you fear whatever your personal views of donald trump that republicans are at risk of losing georgia again in a presidential election? >> well, in every race the voters get to hold people-- hold themselves out for office, they get to hold them accountable. so in georgia when we have our primaries, the republican voters get to side who they want to represent them.

so this accountability will work itself out. when you build a coalition like the governor has and i have here in georgia, you will win. when you don't do that, you'll end up with the disasterous results like they had in arizona so it's really about building a broad-based coalition that resonates with the majority of voters. neil: secretary, you, and a lot of people don't know this outside of the state, many who follow the news do -- you endured punishments, attacks and even death threats for simply handling this and counting the votes and counting them again and making sure everything was accurate. and there are wide swaths of trump supporters who simply don't like you. like i said, it doesn't affect you getting overwhelmingly reelected, but how do you explain yourself to them, that you didn't help donald trump? >> well, first of all, i do understand their anger. this country is polarized. we've had polarization coming from the left, trying to split people apart and now from our

side of the aisle. at the end of the day, i understand that, but they need to understand that the republican principles are based on character, integrity. honesty and making sure we get our budget under control. strong national defense and these are strong unifying positions and best put out by president reagan over 40 years ago, those are fright unifying for us. and i'm a conservative and i'm also going to follow the law and follow the constitution. that has to be our guide post, that's the constitution, that's the rule of law. if we don't follow that, then we start going down a dangerous path. neil: very quickly, secretary, most of the republican presidential candidates are saying this is a weaponization of the government against donald trump. what do you think of that characterization? real quick? >> i just said that people need to have character, they have to have integrity, but i think they also have to have courage, the courage to stand up and make a stand, make a stand for

the rule of law, make a stand for principled leadership. neil: brad raffensperger, good to see you again. georgia secretary of state, took enormous heat and criticism for simply doing his job. that was then and enormous election since. that does it here. fox continues. ♪ >> a newly released mug shot of joran vandersloot, the prime suspect in the 2005 disappearance of natalee holloway. vant er vandersloot is now in the u.s. pleading not guilty to wire fraud. jacqui: i'm jacqui heinrich. he was extradited to stand trial on american soul, accused of trying to sell holloway's mother fake informio