listen to my radio show tomorrow from nine to noon amongst our guest, judge jeanine alexy, la and kirk cameron talking about different stuff. brian kilmeade show that com and on fox and friends amongster our 3 hours of get a three hour show mike pompeo will be her e and carli lloyd the latest fox hire should be covering the women' s world cup. thanks so much for watching. i'll be here all week. the grea i' allt sean hannity is next. >> keep it here. >> and welcome to hannity. welcot, we're going to take you inside one of the most liberal executivee yo america for an exclusive interview with californierica governor gavin newsom. now, no topic was off the table, no restrictions ator all whatsoever. i did promise the governor that i woul himd give him a chance wo to respond to each question without interruptionut. so especially in the beginning of the interview, it is less debate i oriented. it's a little more debate oriented as.ight

the interview goes on. and as you might imagine, while nem and i strongly disagree on pretty much everything, but to the governor's credit, he did sit a down for an entire hour. he answered most of our questions. and by the way, that was something that the president of the united states, joe biden, is not even remotely capable of doin g. so without further ado, here is part one of my interview with california's democratic governor, gavin newsom govern. . >> all right. so i write you this pick on a lot of pick up. aot opicki'm sure. you saw as well. and i'm like, okay, i want to day, o an interview.o and but i don't want to do an interview. i want to make sure the audience understands upfront this is noupront, tht g me. i want you to answer and give your views. i would saany you representry probably about half the country, your view, yos ande other half represents mine. >> you agree? what kin ine.d of divided plus or m minus? >> certainly divided. yeah. question. wee'rn, you know, we'rinus polarized, we're traumatized. we clearly are in these we're

in these echo chambers. i mean, let's be candid, john. i mean, you know, nightrspect your folks are watching you and getting a certain perspectiviv and my folks are watching other networks getting shot. we have studies thats show showi of democrats watch me. well, including me. so i'm actually i'm here me. for a reason, too. with the point, though, i think we need more of that crossointde pollination. we need more of these kind of conversations. and we need to not d to just, you know, accuse each other off misleading the american people, but i think confront each other thee e context of provid opportunities to address some of the facts that are often omitted in terms of the conversations and topics we choose to pickt up.s >>i so what i what what i see is i don't know how you reconcilcilee some of these differences. now, you either believe in secure borders and lawd and order and people wantm to come into our country. you have to do it legally. i'm a product of that. all righa prodor thet. >> there are people that want open borders. you believs.e in defund,

dismantle, no bail laws like cities like the new york wheredl the show originates from. >> or you believaws likee law ae safety security is a prerequisitecu for the pursuit f happiness. you want energy independence or you want you don't want any any domestic energy production. w dy i mean, how do you reconcile those? i don't see those binaries at all. i don't see its atl. at all. no, i don't. i mean, i want border security. democrats want borde br security. we also want. you don't want any walls. i want comprehensive immigration reform>> it co. i want to actually address the issue more comprehensively, just like ronald reagalike n did in 1989. just like and with respect yo yourself promoted with the gang of eight and bipartisan legislation that got 68 votes in the senate, only to die in the house d that could fundamentally address this issue, which is the issue. so which i don't see that i alw had as my position build the wall first. >> you're against building any w wall. no, i have no probleall. m withr 650 plus miles we havedells. on border walls.

i come from a stat lawith the largest i mean, senate. see, drill is the largest landhe port in the western hemisphere. i don't need to be educated on the issue of the border por r issues of immigration policy, but i don't think medi-cal for illegalscated. is $2.7 billion e state. and how many billions are we fo for uncompensated care? people end up in the emergency. and i ask you on the back enncy: wasting taxpayer money, why is it wrong to just demand if you want to come i, to this country, obey our laws, respect our borders, respect our sovereignty, apply come in and we can expedite the application. it'satter pa the latter part. now you're having a conversation. this is where i think the vast majority of americe vast a that's why i'm here. well, that's the point here to bring us together. and that was the point of the comprehensivs whree reform. >> where's congress? i mean, i'll get look, you can criticize biden all the timeth biden's border crisis. i watch 24/7 surround sound anger machin anchoe around that. >> i get it. wait a minute. in three years, he will allow over seven and a half million people illegally into. thin this country. you have to see there's

something wrong with that. no, i dog wi and i see there's something right with what he's done. post title 42, a 70% reduction, taking a lot of the core tenets that the previous administration used. >> he's now bein he's nowg sued by the left, not just being applauded. certainly by the right. that said, here's what's missing. the conversation, you just, wit you know, just suggest that we should be having around dealing with seekers and backlogs and updating and modernizing our visad s and addressing a pathway that ronald reagan himself acknowledged. let me ask you right visas. befe this, things are missing. >> should we have background checks in the middle of a pandemic, health checks we did. should we have means testing?he the people that enter this country are not going to be a financial burdenrden on. the american people we prioritize already with certain alrerioritiz--h e with stem, we prioritize with visas already we give a free college education and $2.7iforni billion of taxpayer dollars in california to medi-cala , and that's for illegal immigrants only. >> and we're spending the money

already. i know everybody on the right can't stand sanctuarstanary. >> i understand that. rudy giuliani, by the way, trump's oliani, by, d attorney,s a huge proponent of sanctuary policy. i didn't that actually said it kept you healthier, safer and more educated actually mades those arguments when he was governor or ratherwhyo mayor of new york. it's the cards that are dealt in the absence of comprehensiv thel fo reform. i'm all for comprehensive reform. i'm for background checks. rebackgrou bordergcomprehe security in all its forms and manifestations, not just walls. i'm addressingof a legal pathwa. i'm actually wanting to address all of these issuellegals, but t to do it in a rational way and not just bastardize the conversatione nd as exclusih about the border. okay. i have here my pile of stuff,la the exact federal law that prohibits. now, there are two court decisions that you might be able to cit able. l one is the the trump lawsuit thn the ninth circuit. o the other is some wordinneg j and in one opinion that justiceb scalia gave some years back. but foacit ir the it is unambigu

when you read the u.s. code as it relates to entering the country, that you've got to do so legally by by characterizing the state as sanctuary. are you therebsanctuary violatiw federal law, the laws that are on the books and that our ownn s constitution states very unequivocallti statey that, in e you should be following sanctuary policies have been on the books for decades, cities, democratic cities, republican ledn the book citiesn the past, democratic states, clearly more moder, demon concen around dealing with reality. th. o comethat are dealt. >> you want people that are victims of crime to come forward and reportport those crimes. that's the purpose of sanctuary. you want a kid be educated that's here regardless of how they got here. you want that kid educatedo --,n you want to take care of someone that's an emergency nom concernedthe d that they're going to be deported by a nurse. the point is, you deal with realitypowith . but look, i stipulate i'm happy to get rid of thos e those

protections by doing the hard work of actually comin bger as together as a nation across our differences and support comprehensive reform and modernize our asylum system and moderniz modere our immigray system. this issue will only get worse. it's not get. just a border iss. it's seven and a half million joe bidener will illegally enter this country in three years of his ye. .dency to me, that's unconscionable. that's unfair to the american people amit'se. that's unfair to the states, including your state. that's unfair to border like texas. but here's what sti wantates tod pause a second and ask you a really serious question. >> i don't think joe biden is mentally, physically capable of being the president ofofunit the united states. hang on. edi suspect if i took your phon and i took a look at it, not that i believe in privacy. i would never do that. i would bet on a daily basis that there are people urgingmary

you to run for president and primary him. am i wrong i n my. my phone's been lighting up how well he did with the uk primh the minister.hought my phone let up and how he sounds like that's a nice dog. mccarthy on the phone, light up a phone lights up with republican friends saying, you know what? despite all of the rhetoric, these bipartisan bills, he keeps passing on infrastructure and the chips and science act, the bipartisand scienc he did on legislation reform and around the debt ceilingt ceilin make m maybe he's done a little bit better job. >> and so that wasn't my questioean: thasn't mn. gavi, ah, does your phone light up with gavin? you need to get in this primar y . >> he's not able to run. he's not up to the job. look, there's everybody has their quiet chatter and everybody's out there ody isrooting for america. i'm rooting for our president, and i have great confidencate i his. i don't i don't want him to fail to accomplish. yoil arehis policies failing. chip's act science act. you oppose thau opt?t? ur i will tell you, on every measure from the economy, inflatiothe n, borders, energy,h

national security,e' he's missig in action. let's talk about them in order to hang on. okay. but i wantder. >> i want to to challengeeconom the premise, you said the economy, 13.1 million jobs. y?he's created more.u these are post-covid jobs. you know that. i mean t, that's an artificial number. no, no, no. then let me just let mee st stipulate this a as an as an opportunity to engage civilly on this. okay. fair point. your president, donald trump,on lost job 2.6 million jobs during his four years. we've create 1d 13.1 million. cv fine. you can maintain a covered frame. how about the fact thaid how about six joe biden's created more jobs, six times more jobs than the previous three republican president, joe biden? >> sl me that3so telombined. the average family where we havef amer two thirds of americans now living paycheck to paycheck, it was 70% under trump? that was true. >> sean:it was 70% under donald. living paycheck to the largest unemployment rate for every demographic. we have the lowest black unemployment in history. and you and i are living with the lowest unemployment we have i arewith then our lifetimg

every demographic and the economy was unemployment's record low under joe biden. okay. we had historic low after historic low under donald trump. donald trump.e bide >> i mean, here's why.n. but he's got i don't want hen increatip's clock bide terms of the progress on job creation, you look at what he's doneon on jobs, would you grade joe biden's presidency because you're at odds with thbideidenci american and the democratic party? i'm just dealing with facts. i'm dealinparty. g with what is your grade? i'm going to go back. let's talk. you brought up six. wellp si , you got to answer some questions. i'm answering the ones in order. listen up. theconomy.the economy on the ec. let's talk about the economy. >> se hi stubbornion around the globe. let's let's. but let's talk about inflation is dowe globn percent since last mimmer, ten months in a row, 4.9%. he was just with the u.k. prime minister. nisterit's 6.9%. is that because of biden's? i think it's economilicyc. d th and energy policy directly impacted the u.k. is inflation. nou.k.'s, i aware the fact thata france is 5.5% of germany's that you're going to get you're not inflation. >> we're moving in the right n on i of on the issue

the border security heritage, >s 1.4% inflation. it went up to a 40 year highea, a 40 year high. >> billy globally because you've just broughon- t you were making an excuse for trump'sakin dismal jobg s record due to covd wasn't he is kelvin's relationship to inflation globally and by the way covi d for and impacting our inflation. let me stop you. all right. he i would assume that's we're getting annoyed tonight. >> here's the probleblem tham t joe biden has. you're arguing, you're fighting, you're battling, articulate. we could sit here for 3 hours, probably have a beer or two in the middle of this and you can keep going. the problem your yourconver president can't have this conversation not cap. he's not capable of it. now, my question is a serious one. all right. to okay. is joe biden up to the job off being president? >> and as a little reminder, take a look at your president in the monitor the a look. >> and there's an awful lot of stories that are told

on probably much apocryphal about a guy, the former prime minister, i think, take parts of that wandering around aturchl three in the morning. >> yeah. winston churchill, by the way, i mel. way,et wt with the who those gus that fly over shortly. you heard him having and theheer chair from mother for which they're for muslim athletes like kareem al-jubei kr. now jabbar, i know him and isaiah mispronouncing that. so i'm trying to think those are the lastk what where is the last place i was? >> it's hard to keep track.. >> i mean, yeah, you're right. irelane d thatcher was 80 8%. he shouldn't do too much. said too much lik ye a guy who led . e revolution you saying that? the guy who is a prime minister? i don't. he said you u gohave tt to be le

a military guy. >> they shot him. but god bles>>s all. let's go, let's go. let's look the world. let's get it - done. >> and then you got joe bidend is having a hard timtie standing up. take a look at that one.k at t standing up. take a look at thahat. i wading up. >> i want you to tell me that you he is cognitively strong enough to lead this country against china, russia, iran, north koresia,a and a new axis s evil. and that he's the gu they. e ecn he cannot articulate the economy the way you just did. yeahomthe way u just, but i donk he's capable. i know he's capable. i ses. esult i've seen a masterclass of results the last few years. you don't see the resultresult s on the chips act. you don't see the results on the infrastructure. you had infrastructure week every week for years. >> so importing them all from taiwan, whiche?h is about to be taken over by china, we had $4 billion proofpoint just here in californiaiwand with applied materials bringing semiconductor investment back here in the state of california. my pointg semi being i'm goingru to talk about real results, but

bipartisan results, real resultltn s jobs programs. the ira, i know you don't like it. i mean, hundredsu of billions f dollars in green energy investment, mostly in red states. y you're biggest beneficiary of the ira, raise taxes on australia raised. oil, gas, coal, pensions and, quote, taxes. corporations. corporations don't pay taxes . they pass the cost on toer consumers. that's all they dos. . e >> you know that on the issue of energy independence, i think it was your second of the list of items you think is cognitively you thi strong enough to be president. conversations them all the time. yes. and i'll tell you whatyes. , you do. i'm dead serious about that. i've come i've talked to him when he's been overseaerseas, i've been in air force one, marine one. i've been in the limo with him. i'vewith spent time with him, never answered my question directly. how many timeswere your phone pinging a day? people saying you need to get in this race because they agree with me that he's not up to the job. >> i would say i see asking. your question. where are you going with that? i'm asking no and i'm not

answering under any circumstances. would you ge t in this? no, no, none. i look, i really am i think he's a man of decency and character. i'm really proud of the president, proud of what he's accomplished enoughe di to be president. >> that's a strong and going about what he just did. mccarthy he ran circles. w >> i look at the vote cardou and just got voted for it.n go exactly. kevin got played by tht playe president. i states i'm for results. i'm for results. i don't thinr sults.>> seak thed people benefit. i like the plan that would have saved 4.8 trillion. al hved l now.o we'r >> so we're at a point i think you are far more articulate, far more versed, verse far more energetic. i'm just i have this theory that people are going to comi hd because i don't think inon your party they think he's the guy that's my myguy., i now i'vt got a buddy have wel wl, i don't want to make this an argument. i want you to explain because argument to you is conservative policies worconserk. you know, i don't care if it's ronald reagan. i don't care ii dof. it's newt gingrich's contract. i don't care if it's donald

trump's four years as president. i believe his policies were peace through strength , wa building up our military, building a wall, enforcingll la and order, energy independence, which biden gave up, which you didn'trg bring up. i >> let me which i'm happy to direct. let me sho -w you a list of corporate headquarters that are leavin g your in. >> well, it's very good. i look forward to having this conversation. i' >> i'm well aware corporate headquarters are leaving. look a awat san in particular. they're closing down because they can't keep their product in the store because they're getting robbed. ini got another one for you.seas >> seasonally adjusted business applicationson. orida. you always bring up florida. i compared you to florida. i think you have a higher population highe, i'm not mistai >> a significantly higher power. why are they doing better incank business formula? we'll have to take a look at that and more. take a look. i'm happy. thdetail i'm happy. go. looking forward. how many more of these you have? let's go about aean: eig bring a let's do bring them aln:l on. ak let's have this conversation. okay let me ask this is a tough question for you. i don't think it will be will. let's find out all

think right. so you're the first governor ins a story that has had a net migrationen of the golden state. >> go west, young man. yeah. yeah, i lived here. i lived here five years. horace greeley. i was the poorest guy in santay barbara at the time. >> in the early eighties. ifk you look at.this i want you to really look at this. yeah. and explain for the year 2021wh and 2022. yeah. why florida is taking in nearly a thousand people a dayople and you're losing 800 people a day. they're leavin dayg. >> tell me why they're leaving your state. so we'll stop at the three.at a >> or you want to do the whole. no, no, we'll just answer 1 one of the 18 states. 18 states had declines in population. relifoia wascalifornia's was 0.. >> you didn't bring up any ofd the red states that had declineddeclin in populations. >> it's an interesting fact,g and i don't see it on here. >> an interesting admitted fact. what's that? per capita o, more floridiansmoe moved to california than

california califor is moving d to florida. that, i don'ont imagine is in sa one of your eight slides. let me take another stab at thisb at. in 2021, california, 7.8% of gdp, gdp growth in this country, one of the fastest growing economies anywhere on planetomies an earth. this state continues to be the temple of the american economtent p they. rican 25.6% of all american jobs camei from this state in april. in the last two fiscal years, we enjoyed hundred and $77.7 billion in operating surpluses l . we're on our way to bear the fourth largest economy. eat your heart out. ea outy in the world, number i one in r&d, venture capital. more scientists, researchers, more nobel laureates, more patents emanatingl out of this state than any other state in america. with all due respectof , fordte doesn't even come close. eat your heart out. texas. california to be the dominant economic engine for the. >> i promised you before this interview i would let you give full answers. that's a fult u l answer.ow i'm thank you. okay, now i'm going to challenge it.

good. fio allenge and the challenge is is the first time in the history of the staten th. o. >> that you've lost population. yes. >> right, time right now i'm going to give you another sheet here. th taxis is about income. write your state income tax. is 13.3% at the highest number. i also did more digging. pay the top 1% of californians payal 50% of that total income taxe ta bill. >> yeah, well he has roughly now that's redistribution of wealth does it it well it's progressiv e tax policy now look at yours 13.3. what does florida what does that saylorida? >> so zero. well, it's factually untrue. it's not zero. o. and they have zero. >> the top one, while the top one percent pay pay. >> look here here sean: you're promoting your a zero. is that alive? no. let's here's what you're promoting. you're promotingromoting promoting regressive taxwe don policy. we don't believe in regressive tax policy't belie. o you're promoting one component of entire tax systemneomponent,. with all due respect, you andmaa i may pay the 1%. the vast majority of people watching. don't you pa the vay taxes in

states like texas for the middle class than you do ian states like california right now? >> hold on. no, no, no. this is we have too many of the american people don't know this. we have the highest tax rate for the 1%. th familiesalifornia.erican pwee actually pay less than the majority states in america, in california. >> so who are you for? a so who are you fighting for? i am for. i'm just wonderingre fig, becaue i have homes in florida. yeah. and pay a lo. i'd ay at of property tax. they're double what you pay in california, i would think. >>y except if you addyou the millionaire property tax that you just put in l.ajustn . county, that's a transfer tax. and we didn't do that on our taxes. we do i half a million dollarsa i don't know if you can get health insurance down. sonce in you're telling me the s of net population, 18 states? t we were number 0.4 inun this number here, 13.3%. >> now, every californian also- had since not for a decade, right and you supported it for a decade. >> the public actually initiated iitt wasointi

supported by the public. >> but the point is, florida has zero. the net population growth. hang on, per florida is almost 8%. it's almost 1000 people a day0 p is tyou'rele 100 people in the states. >> my question is this connectehit?d to that? no, i respect your audience too on.this.et them be misled >> this the audience is alive in that rare if i know this>> is a lie you you're manipulating some fundamental facts. amental you're omitting the fact the vast majority of people do not live in the 1%. you're talking about the 1%% tax, 1% pays half of it.pa >> yeah, i understand that but i'm talking about the american people don't live there. and the reality is whee.ne they live in texas versus california. middle class pay more than a they do in the state of california is higher taxes in florida, that's for sure. x you seems to be with ron desantis. >> watwas glad we could talk about the kidnaper. >> we'll get into that a little. but, you know, here's my point >> we've h estab . we've had a progressive tax bill. i didn't establish the 1 the 13% that was done before i even got here. >> i have opposed new increase d

is in the top 1% tax. i opposed the statewide wealth tax. i'vese sta never been a proflig democrat. i balanced budgets. we make the hard choices. the i'm a business guy stati hae a deficit of $32 million billion dollars. this year.pital, this state we dominate in venture capital innovation. we the finest system of publicne higher education anywhere on planet earth. we convey more taleneartt than y place on the planet. this state r&dplanet, what whatd what did tesla just do? they moved back into the state of california. disney's their jobs back from florida. in the state of california. dis movingirom florida.per capita more floridians coming back to california than californiansk going to floridaw this was anomalous. 18 states saw declinase i loved this state. don't count us out. i've been here in this bastion all my lif out e i am not. >> but i have a list of all the state headquarters and i'll scroll them on ourea screenn ta and you could take a look at them. these are all the corporations that have leftke your state, and we're creating a corporate headquarters. >> one after another afteran another. >> there's a lot. so what i'm pointingother.s is. are we creating a unicorn company? the iprno is three times florida

so a number of texas don't emit all of the facts. >> okay. but that's okay. i'm askingfacts. you not to adm the facts. so we have all thesefact corporations let me give yo a list here. >> here's the whole list. tesla, appl nationally, - they're world headquarters of r&d, their business headquartersean: bus out of you. and how many jobs are created in the list i gave and hows th d jobs left with them? >> how many jobs? i keep it. no, but you need to know nono e. it was insignificant, inconsequential. we create solar companies every- single day. more billionaires. i'm scrolling these. >> i? te no. but one half of america's $1 billion valued companies1 are . the state of california. this state economy thisd the nation 3.1%1% in the last decade, 2.1% nationwide. i've been hearing this nonsense for half a centurye literally half a century, but they've only allowed us in recent years. >> we create how man many hay wi created, how many new ipos, how many new opportunities, how manypod ne jobs were taken f

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since 1990. and that exodus continues to this day. inand especially palpable in san francisco, the city's famedb union square neighborhood is now quickly turning into a ghosors not town with 19 major store closures since 2020. so what's going on in the golden state? theand the state's governor tae any responsibility. withre's part two of my interviw with governor gavin newsom. >> let me ask about quality ofle life issues. when you have these back, by the way, i'm well aware of these. >> i think if you put themthis around the governor's mansion, this is going to be a classic intervie iw. >> you know, listen, it mayit my seem and you're very appreciate your passion for your state. i love it. i appreciate>>e the fact that you fight for the things you believe it down. eve and this goes back to the original premise of not only this discussion becaus this ie really is a friendlyean: discussion. no, i know there's there's no personal animu there's n s betw. >> it's just i don't agree with your views.

>> you're very good at giving reason, rationale for losing population and higher state income taxstat and now i'm going to ask you about the homeless population. wee stores now in san francisco because of smash and grab wabberiean francs. they're leaving. yeah. you know, walgreens has one, i think targetlg's is e.th is tr is at least three. >> whole foods is another. they'ryou're san francisco. >> okay. so my question to you is between taxes, bureaucracy, d crime, homelessness and the homeless numbers t h are not rey good for you in your state of knowledge. and no. and then i went to paris sending money. well, it's a disgrace. the homeless issue. in 2008, you had a ten year plan. it's a >> sean:u ten-yeari got the tape. let me play it for you. w do it, san francisco. we believe fundamentally that food solves hunger. that shelters solve sleepd and that housing solve s. g and if we're going to solve the problem of thosee th that aw

out on the streets that we define as homeless, we better solve the housing problem if we're going to have an impact. and that's imp we establish this framework, what we call a ten year plan to end chronic homelessness in san francisco. >> it's in san francisco. okay. here we are.w th you want to know the results after ten years? okaye resu . >> here's a comparison. i don't need to look at my charts. >> ye i charts. i know the charts. i know these charts so well. after ten years, we reducedstret the street population by 33%. you know what? i'm proud of the fact weth it established the goal. we did it with the with the bush administratiothshwithn repr . we did it with a framework. what we actually identifieifiedd by george w bush as one ofn stab the leaders in terms of establishing not only a frameworlish k of a plan, but delivering on what we promoted and promised. and i agree with you . e bi you know, michaelangelo said it best. the biggest risk in life is not hiat we aim to lowggs lifes thah it's way too high and miss it rather the opposite. my point beings it, we have to e audacious, and in so doing wetht

made progress. this state has not madeat progress i pron the last hom two decades as it relates to homelessness. >> why? >> be housing costs are too high. our regulatory thickets are too problematic. localism has been too impactful . people locally are pushing back against new housing starts and constructionpushingainstng.' i've been here for years.p fo i can't make up for the fact in 2005 we had an historic number of homeless under republican andhomele now there's 171,000. >> it's great. disgraceful.lorida >> and all right i'll comparen. to florida. er get 26 hours, of course. same weather, similar state that i lived in.here growth dynamics are very different. that said, we own this, sean, not here defending, but here's the difference. you're going to buil >> sean:d 1200 homes this year. >> i read that's not true. you have a proposal thatho true eight thousand people off the streets last year. >> and by the way, that's been politifact 68,000. >> we had we had over 15 pointot $3 billion. homeless plan when i got here was half a billion dollars. tha notte of californi here,bi involved in the homeless issue. we got involved. we're holding cities prd counties accountable.

i'm suing cities and not producing housing. housing. wehousin actually have a 15 year high. and new housing starts in the state of californimousing s we're actually seeing programs produce real results. but i want accountabilitesults.y i'm not the mayor of california. i'm governor onia.i'm gof six s larger than 21 states populations combined. morgern and the difference betwe and most politicians is i owstn this. i take responsibility for this. this is personal. me. i love ime the state and i like what's happening with the encampments. i wasn't like that's happened. the streetappening s and sidewalks. i don't like the bashing of my old city, san francisco, whole foodhings did shut downs i one business, but that was a bad location to begin with. they're opening a new one. >> we have two point sisters out here recently with a team and ti said, all go to wha the wharf. >> certain parts are bad and we own that. wei put the national guard and the chp down there hundredsc and i know, by the way, you'vecu mentioned defund police. don't accuse me of tha that.t ie never been part of that. >> say people who are saying i' anydn't want to build more border wall that that caught our eye because it was

sort of farcical. this notion that somehow you can have a physicacal.ve al0 structure that's 2000 miles long. why not? with all due respect wi, i sit here watching the former president say he did it, itin for it.a xico >> it's laughable. those are certainly you got a better trade deal with mexicm and canada not i'm not here to take cheap shot on that for and coming up next but you know sanctuary state why don't? you embrace dealing with the cards that are dealt them for comprehensive immigration reform? >> i'm proud of our president for puttinrehensivg a strategy t and you guys have been silence on it. you haven't even discussed if you are not a sanctuary state, why don't you embrace them and say thank you fothem and thd them? we embrace everybody here. we deal with the card to date in a humany. i way. g >> now, i asked governor newsom about his feud with florida governor ron desantis. remember, he was accusing ron desantis. kidnapping illegan immigrants. they actually went voluntarilyt. wa ,signed waivers. but by sending them to this sanctuary statbuo the, californg plus, will gavin newsoavm agreie to debate governor desantis

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agree to debate one on one witha me hosting. >> here's what he had to sayt a >> here's my question. maybe i have idea that you'd agree with. i want to start a seriesnt t of debates and get some of the best, brightessome of t leag conservative minds and some of the best, brightes t left wing minds or liberal minds. i put you in that category, and i want to call it like the great debates. i love it. wan ded the first one i want to do is with you and governor desantis. great. i've offered. it. vernor >> i've been trying to debate. here's how this debate format will go. could i say governor newsom, governor desantis, economy. . that's the only word i'm going to throw out of it. you minute, minute. then you go at it. next topic. right. and i'll moderate it that way. >>u have my word. >> i'll moderate that way. s i'm all in. you will do.ake >> a two hour debate was wrong to say i make it three three

hour debate. yeah, i hear me with one day notice with no notes. i look forward to that. we can talk about his zest for demonization. we could talk about his assault on his kidnaper. dnappe everything i said. question mark, still beingr? a questionuestion mark. mark, wl being investigated, still want ask, and he may bring charges. >> the people, you know, kindf t of your kind of faith tradition . >> how nice was this as you said, to spotlight this goart. going of the goodness ofl his heart. he's going around the country to try b to migrants and bring them to states because he's been a base. he why is it he sends a plane load of people to martha's a liberal enclave rights from one and a half million bucks. >> okay. what is lux? who's the fiscal conservatives part? we wenvative?n:t and we looked a were more than double the amount of rooms available te for every one of the people that landed there that day. >> okaed therey. er, al >> and all of them signed a waiver. all of thel m -- m by the way, e i read the waiver. they showed me the way. i couldn't even understand it.

>> and i have a decent education. they got this sanctuary, dec liberal enclave, couldn'ent handle. >> you know, 50 illegal >>migrants don't they rule them out? >> and let's say throughou seant the last 20 for our children, then why didwhy did they do thy why didn't that literally for most people, pawns.what f >> i mean, this is what faithai tradition teaches you to treat human beings like this, to belittle that, you know, for sanctuar bely state, why don'te you embrace dealing with the cards that are dealt them for. comprehensive immigration reform? i'm proud of our president for putting a strategy or out. and you guys have been silence s on it. you haven't even discussed if you arcan youee not a sanctuary, why don't you embrace them and say thank you for sending them? was it we embrace everybodyy here. we deal with the cards, a date and a human wadon't yoacy forwa it's not sanctuary state being told under false pretense. ld falseone thing i don't thinks happened. i know it. i sat down with these migrantsie . i talked to every single one of them. they were lied to. they were misled.

and what was it? they were told they had jobs. they told they were goingd to get certain court dates changed. they were droppe courd. doo they knocked on the door and they left. and there was not coordinateleft d. d >> i mean, what kind of faith? tradition? every source there is a video videotape of the people getting on them because they were all lied to and told and they were. taken care of. everything's going to be great. i would bed be proud and happy. and then because by the way, i have the replicas, they landed in your sanctuary state, you're going to take care of them. they should be happy sanctua. i. look. well, we'll deal with the big come on. this is california . larges i know. it's it's it's on its way. omd.the fourth largest economy. the work we can handle, ofi' course. yes. okay. i'm a borderm ron desantis is not. i know he's desperate to get in on the act now becauses a las belly flop. donald trump is going to clean. is it thisclock. the joe biden to santos? >> yes. belly flop. it desanllly will clean his clo. >> he i don't have a crystal mansion and he set this up months ago by doing an rfp. i have the contractor. okay. my quote he tried to hire

saying he was going to send people to california. thisa it's embarrassing, pathetic. >> i just don't i think he did the right thing. his state's not a sanctuary state. well , joe, by just wanted to help people. >> he will be the same standarun a. joe biden, he's flying all these illegal immigrants who are in aiding themg -- , >> i'm coordinating with me. i'm engaging directly with the administrationaged wit. estchest when at 330 in the morning inno westchester airport, not not kennedy, westchester. you know why? becaus e they're sneaking themhere's in when states aren't looking. >> and he's perfect, but it's're coordinated and there's a different spirit. there's a different level and game level. it's it's different in daylight, darkness. it's not perfect. i'm there's some humility in this isn't joe biden . oe b dumpingiden people in florida on all these other states isn't dumb people anywhere. >> what's the difference between what he's is doingean: e pretty decent as an asian and coming up next saying that's the way you should bring up a good french laundry. >> so it was a dumb it was a terrible mistake. it wasn't illegal, was wrong, and it totally violated the spirit of what i was

preaching. the and it was wrong. and i own that. i don't care. and you know what? for the gracf e of god, no. one else has ever made a mistake. i guess i did. i owi n everybody makes mistake. however, that was a dumb one. it was dumb and i own it. t so. so i don't need to be remindedoe of it close quarters, no mask. >> and i'm like, all right. it was right.as you >> i think it was your birthday party, right now. ovid i asked the governor about the french laundry covid scandal.l and asked about the trump indictment and his relationship with the formery president. that response will likely surprise you. straight ahead ight ahe ahead. if you have diabetes. getting on dexcom is the single most important thing you can do. eliminati was really frue painfs helps lower agency and is covered by medicar se before using the dexcom g7. using the dexcom g7. i was really frustrated al that finger you may wantwi to see was still stuck. >> my diabetesthout s. was out f

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