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we appreciate you coming. you have another hour to practice on the turf. you don't have to go to school today. >> who will be a professional soccer player? all right. all right. >> thank you very much. thks for joining us today. we'll be back tomorrow. see you then. >> bill: that looks like fun. good morning, everybody. regulate before it's too late is a growing chorus of experts are saying about ai. the first all-senators briefing on the topic today. i'm bill hemmer. intriguing story coming up for you today. nice to see you. love to see the gals on the plaza today. >> dana: they were fun. ainsley looks amazing in purple today. i'm dana perino and this is "america's newsroom." this is a big deal. you don't get an all-senators briefing and how the topic has
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risen. it's the first of three today and part of a push to keep lawmakers up to date on technology with terrifying potential. >> bill: a major concern with the ability to manipulate and could be used to sway elections or start a war. it is advancing at break neck speed and pressure on lawmakers to get something done. >> there are places the risk of ai is so extreme we ought to impose restrictions or ban their use. one of my areas of greater concerns. the ability of models to persuade and provide one-on-one interactive disinformation. >> one of the most significant technological innovations in human history. what kind of innovation is it going to be sew like the printing press that diffused knowledge or will it be more like the atom bomb? huge technological breakthrough but the consequences are severe.
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>> dana: criminals are using ai to their advantage. a few months ago we brought you this story. scammers cloned the voice of this 15-year-old girl and used it to place a ransom call to her mother. the mom is set to testify at a separate hearing this afternoon and we'll speak to her in a few minutes. let's go to capitol hill. aishah hosni will catch us up. >> good morning to you both. there is an urgency on the hill to regulate a.i. congress hasn't done anything about it yet because lawmakers are still learning about this technology. senate majority leader chuck schumer is taking the lead on a.i. today he is kicking off a series of briefings for senators from what artificial intelligence is currently doing to where it is headed and how the pentagon and our adversaries might use ai against each other. >> it's imperative we senators take time to educate ourselves on a.i. and its implications so that we can insure it becomes a
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force for human prosperity while mitigating its very real risks. >> the clock is ticking on the mitigating. last month the creator of it is having lawmakers -- we're already seeing a lot of problems for example the f.b.i. is now warning about an uptick in sextortion cases where bad guys are using a.i. to manipulate innocent pictures and videos into believeably sexually explicit content and sometimes it involves children. senators will talk about how a.i. can harm humans. meantime we have seen a flurry of bills in recent days. one would create a brand-new agency to track a.i. advancements in rival countries like china in the same way we compare weapons, tanks or ships. we will have to see what leader schumer brings to the senate
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floor for a vote this year. congress does not have a good track record when it comes to wrangling technology. we see what they did with social media. still haven't done much with that yet. >> dana: great to have you. thank you. >> bill: with us now, you are from arizona in the spotlight in washington today. a scammer used a.i. to clone your daughter's voice as part of an extortion plot. they wanted a lot of money. what da hear on the phone call zbh >> i received a call from my daughter crying and sobbing asking me for help saying mom, i messed up, please help me. these mean get on the phone after she said she had been kidnapped and that these men had her and then they started demanding money otherwise i was never going to see her alive again. >> dana: i read that your daughter is not on social media or wasn't at the time and they were able to get her voice off of some interviews she had done at school?
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>> we're not sure where they got her voice. she was a ski racer before so she had some photos and what not public but not her voice. even with the interview at school athletes are commonly interviewed especially if they try to seek scholarships. but there was no cry, no sobbing. that's what really baffled us. where did they get that? >> dana: that's strange. you are there at your other daughter's dance rehearsal and surrounded by other moms. you are on the phone. what happens then that made you realize that your daughter was actually safe? >> so the one mom ran outside and called 911 who informed her it was a common scam going on. not only the voice but inflection, their sounds and cries. they can replicate everything. it gave me hope but still didn't guarantee she was safe. the other mom was able to get my husband on the phone and able to locate her. i didn't believe she was with
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her husband and not with the kidnappers because i had a conversation with her. so i didn't believe her until i spoke to my daughter and reassured me she was safe at home and had no idea what's happening. >> bill: they wanted $1 million. they went down to $50,000. most relevant to parents watching this now. you were around adults and could get help. what if they lure a child? >> that's my greatest fear. as i hung up with that it's what haunted me. what if it was used in the luring of kidnapping of children? they wanted to come pick me up. refusing a wire and wanted to physically transport me with a bag over my head to kidnap me. how they use it to lure children. >> dana: as i understand it, you said at&t had reached out to you. you didn't initially talk to them because i can imagine you don't have a lot of trust when it comes to who is calling your phone. then they did say that they have been able to trace the call and
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it has been turned over to authorities. do you know anything more? >> i haven't heard anything more. again i'm really skeptical to pick up any unknown numbers or communicate with anybody who reaches out to me without validating who they are. i haven't made contact with anyone on it. >> bill: what will you tell lawmakers who are -- listen, a lot of them are just still learning about this. as you are yourself. >> yeah. i had no idea how far and wide it can go with the deep fake videos. we need regulation. we need accountability. otherwise if we don't have any we won't be able to stop this. we're enabling them through the lack of action to keep perpetuating this. >> dana: your story is remarkable and so glad we had a chance to meet you and watching your testimony today. let's stay in touch, okay? >> thank you so much. >> bill: good luck to you and your daughter. what she says not being able to
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trust anyone anymore on the phone. you can understand that. she has a big job to convince senators to act. >> dana: it is strange. no audio of her crying but the mother says that's my daughter's cry. so how does that happen? maybe that will be a question today that the senators will ask some of the technology folks. we'll move on to another retail giant giving up on san francisco. westfield it stopped making payments on its $558 million loan effectively giving the mall back to the bank. the company blames crime and homelessness for tanking its business. newsom was pressed on that by sean hannity last night. >> we got involved holding cities and counties accountable and suing cities who aren't producing housing. i'm governor of a state. the difference between me and most politicians is i own this.
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i take responsibility for this. this is personal to me. i love this state. i don't like what is happening with the encampments. >> bill: one topic of many. sean had many more questions for the california governor. william la jeunesse has a wrap of last night's exclusive interview now. nice to see you. >> it is generally accepted here in california it's not if newsom runs for president but when. he is backing president biden for now but staying in the headlines. touring the red states. picking a fight daily with governor desantis and talking to sean hannity. on immigration he says he supports comprehensive reform. problem is so does everybody else. it is meaningless for 25 years it has been politically dead in washington. newsom called the border wall, quote, a monument to stupidity. last night he said something else. >> i have no problem with the 650 plus miles on border walls. i come from a state with the
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largest land port in the western hemisphereened i don't need to be educated on the issue of the border or issues of immigration policy. i'm for background checks and addressing border security and all its forms and manifestations, not just wells. >> california has the highest individual tax rate. newsom claims california's total tax burden property, income and sales tax combined is lower than a dozen other states. >> with all due respect you and i may pay the 1%. vast majority of people watching don't. you pay more taxes in states like texas for the middle class than states like california. >> on his infamous visit to the french laundry during the height of covid while telling everybody else to stay home and wear a mask. he admitted last night. >> it was wrong, a dumb mistake.
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i violated the spirit of what i was preaching and it was wrong. >> on reparations newsom supports it in principle but not handing out bundles of cash. he is not worried about people leaving california. accepted hannity's challenge to debate florida governor ron desantis. more theater than reality. the interview was entertaining. >> bill: nice to see you in l.a. today. they got a lot in. >> dana: i think it was -- i thought it was smart and strategic of governor newsom to come on fox and did himself a lot of good. sean hannity has all the information and he has a way to keep it conversational and show everybody a side of gavin newsom they might not know. i think it was a good thing. >> bill: 13 years since he has done our channel. back then he was a mayor. he is a whole different situation now. really on a national level this
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topic came up. he asked gavin newsom to give joe biden a grade. >> what would you grade joe biden's presidency? you are at odds with the american people and democratic party. what is your grade? >> you brought up -- >> didn't get very far on that. joe biden as president went overseas in july of last year and gavin newsom went to washington and when he went washington, he started going to the west wing and took a detour with his aides so the cameras, the way it is set up at the white house can get a clean shot of him. >> dana: you can walk through a door on the side and not be seen but he was seen, super casual. biden was out of town at the time. i can imagine the white house both wants newsom out there as a surrogate but wary because i think newsom is playing for two
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possible contingencies. that biden might not finish it out and also the one out there elevating desantis when the white house wants to elevate trump. fun to watch. glad he came on the show. >> bill: a day of historic proportions in miami, florida. what will happen when donald trump goes before a federal judge today? we'll check in there. plus there is this. give it a listen. >> the foreign national who allegedly bribed joe and hunter biden allegedly has audio recordings of his conversation with them. 17 such recordings. >> dana: senator chuck grassley claiming a burisma executive has conversations of joe biden and hunter. what does it mean for the investigation? >> how a group of kids survived for 40 days on their own in the amazon junk will. the first thing they said to those who found them there.
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tanker truck crashed underneath the underpass. it caused the upper lanes to buckle, melt and crumble to the ground. he leaves behind his 7-year-old daughter and long time girlfriend. >> bill: historic today. yet again we can say donald trump set to appear before a judge in miami. he will become the first former president to face federal charges. indicted last week, 37 counts related to the handling of classified documents. from outside the courthouse in miami jonathon seary gets ready for a long day. >> he will turn himself voluntarily ahead of his 3:00 first appearance court hearing this afternoon. he will be digitally fingerprinted and photographed. the photograph will not be released to the public. supportsers mixed with protestors lined the road as the former president's motorcade brought him to his doral golf
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resort in miami yesterday to meet with his legal team. he gave a preview of what to expect in an radio interview. >> the judge will ask how do you plead. are you going to say anything beyond not guilty? will you make a statement in court tomorrow? >> no, i will just say not guilty. i did nothing wrong. presidential records act. not even a criminal event. there is no criminality here. it is ridiculous. >> mr. trump has been indicted on 37 counts related to his handling of classified white house documents that he brought to his mar-a-lago estate in palm beach, florida when he left office. in an interview with a spanish language news outlet he said he did nothing wrong. >> under the presidential records act i'm allowed to do all of those things. you are allowed to keep the documents. you negotiate with the archives and even the archives, by the way, have red flagged the constitution of the bill of rights because they're dangerous
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documents. >> police have brought in additional officers and say they have a multi-layered response that can be implemented depending on the size of any rallies and protests outside the courthouse, whether it's 5,000 people or 50,000. a small group of pro-trump supporters has gathered in front of the courthouse now. so far things are peaceful and miami city officials say they expect no major problems. they say miami residents have a long history of respecting the first amendment right to protest as well as respecting the rule of law and law enforcement. bill. >> bill: we'll wait for more. live in miami. thank you. >> the foreign national who allegedly bribed joe and hunter biden allegedly has audio recordings of his conversation with them. 17 such recordings. these recordings were allegedly kept as a sort of insurance
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policy for the foreign national in case that he got into -- >> dana: a stunning revelation from grassley on the alleged bribery scheme and the ukrainian energy company burisma and joe biden and hunter. john levine joins us now. the news hit last night. senator grassley was on our show, bill hemmer did the interview. asked this question what was in the documents. >> senator, how damning is this document to the sitting u.s. president? >> well, i don't know that. that's what we need to -- >> bill: you've read it. >> let's put it this way. there are accusations in it. but that's -- it is not for me to make a judgment about whether these accusations are accurate or not. it is up to my job to make sure the f.b.i. is doing their job and that's what this is all about as far as i'm concerned. public's business ought to be
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public. >> dana: he said he read the document. now the committee has seen the document. nothing leaked from that and then last night senator grassley says this. what do you make of it? >> a shocking revelation. people who have been following this have feared for a long time. the whole point of the hunter biden and joe biden is about joe biden. whether the president, through his exposure to his son's business dealings is somehow compromised. the answer to the question appears to be yes if you believe the allegation in this f.b.i. document from the confidential credible source. we're in no man's land. >> bill: you said this is bigger than the laptop story. >> potentially. >> you've gone through the laptop. why is this bigger than that? >> this is the first time you can link joe biden to specific crimes. you could talk about the laptop all day long and hunter biden and the big guy. this is the first time joe biden
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is involved in criminal behavior if you believe the allegations. >> bill: two questions, why did grassley tell us that then? secondly, he wanted to insure the f.b.i. is doing its job. we can't answer number two, can we? >> the roll-out of information. i don't know what motivations go into when they reveal things. is senator is almost 90 years old. maybe when you asked the question it wasn't top of mind. >> dana: new york congresswoman believes the f.b.i. does understand they have a problem with people believing things are not necessarily fair for whatever your ideological perception is, especially as a conservative. >> i believe director wray understands that we on this committee have very deep concerns about the two tier justice system we have now. if your last name is biden or clinton you live by a different
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set of rules rather than americans targeted who happen to be republicans. >> dana: and why you imagine it is that again it's the "new york post" and fox news the ones covering these grassley revelations and no one else. >> it is fascinating. this file comes from june 2020 before the hard drive became known, before the larger malfeasance of the biden family became known. unclear the f.b.i. did anything with this information. if f.b.i. director wray didn't investigate and launch a probe in response to this credible information we need to know why. i think it's incumbent upon lawmakers to subpoena him to answer these questions if necessary. >> bill: 15 audio recordings with hunter biden and two with joe biden. >> this is that they warned us about donald trump. now showing its face and it is joe biden. incredible. >> bill: nice to see you, "new york post." i know you'll stay on it. >> thank you. i will.
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>> dana: thank you. >> bill: an accused serial rapist freed on bail. how that happened and how the alleged victims are reacting in a moment. a new report shows inflation might be slowing down. what does that mean? we'll talk to the co-host of the big money show brian brenberg and jackie deangelis are coming up for you next. ♪ the heartland of america. we rely on hard work and honest manufacturing to deliver high quality, heirloom inspired bedding, bath towels and more, all made in the usa. experience the farm to home difference for yourself. go to red land cotton dot com and receive 15% off your order with code fox news.
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devastating stuff. >> dana: this month's inflation report was out moments ago and still significantly too high. consumer prices up 4% from last year with continued interest rate hikes. brian brenberg and jackie deangelis here to break it down. inflation slowed to 4%. the white house will be happy with that number. >> they'll love it, yeah. the problem is how does it feel for people at home? you have 4% inflation year-over-year last month but that's on top of 8.6% the prior year. at home you're saying it doesn't feel like 4% inflation. it's more like 13% inflation. that's what we miss in the headline. these are really high prices for people because it is building year-over-year. they have not kept up. you are paying those high prices and you can't pay out of your pocketbook. what do you do? put it on your credit card.
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that has been the story. >> bill: almost paid $4 for gas. getting close to that. >> what i think is particularly interesting is core. that strips out food and energy. that's what the without loves to tout. it's higher than the headline number. so i won't sit and say today's report is horrible but i won't give it an a plus and say it's great. the market is trading higher today it thinks there is a 75% chance the fed will pause this week when it meets and not raise rates. that doesn't mean there won't be more rate hikes coming down the line or lick i had tee problems or not going into a recession. it doesn't mean a lot of things. >> dana: sean hannity asked newsom. >> inflation is down 4% since last smear. u.k. prime.
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6.9%. on inflation we're moving in the right direction. >> it went up to a 40-year high. >> the low bully. because you just brought up -- you were making the excuse more trump's dismal jobs record related to covid. >> dana: more of that great interview from last night. what's interesting traditionally voters are willing to look backwards on the economy in an incumbent president and punish them for things that happened in the first two years. even if things get better going forward it is not like the consumer forgets. >> it hits on my second point i wanted to make. this is 2 1/2 years of extreme pain for the american consumer. they don't forget when they go to the grocery store. they don't forget at the pump or restaurants and in this report, what we did see shelter and autos are still really sticky and really tough for people. it's the number one thing people
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worry about aside from food and energy prices has come down. administration will say we get a check mark there but opec is trying to manipulate prices again. i wouldn't say the energy situation is involved, either. >> look, it is always -- if you don't have a great story to tell compare it to something worse. what he is talking about there, it was 9% last year. nobody wants 9%. nobody wants 5% core inflation, either. the point is we've got to get down to two. we've still got a long way to go. >> bill: do you see any pro-growth policies coming from this administration? >> no, that's the problem. you way you get from 9 to 5 the federal reserve turns up interest rates. 5 to 2 you get a growing economy and people back in the labor force. and we don't have that right now. we don't have pro-growth policies. we have regulatory policies. the headline is a new restriction on your stoves and cars every week. we need to go the opposite
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direction if we want to economy to grow out of inflation. >> no one is saying stop spending. spending is what got us here. this move from 4% to 2%, the fed's target will be the hardest to achieve. >> dana: the last two miles of a marathon. >> bill: exactly."big money" on fox business >> dana reads sports. happiness running a mile high in denver. >> it is over. at last, the long wait is over. >> dana: the nuggets beat the miami heat in game five last night. winning the team's first nba championship in its 47 year history. >> bill: sure is. >> dana: nikola jokic was named the series mvp.
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this is a sight nuggets fans have waited a long time for. the championship trophy. i was seven years old and went to a nuggets game. >> bill: just one? >> dana: yeah. i think they actually do think they were good for a little while. >> jokic is amazing to watch. denver is so lucky to have him. listen to the commentary. good stuff. >> dana: watched last night. congratulations, denver. >> bill: they will have a parade on thursday. they had a little bit of a party after the game last night. got a little ugly. >> dana: wonder if they'll clean up downtown before the parade. you're welcome, denver. >> bill: out of the blue the nypd top cop quits yesterday only 18 months on the job. blind sides the city. what happens next year at home? the university of oklahoma softball champs credit their faith for their success. where the team says they got their strength. one of those players will sound
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off next. >> i think that is what makes our team so strong is that we're not afraid to lose because it's not the end of the world if we do lose. for too long, big pharmaceutical companies have bought off politicians so they can get away with ripping us off. that's changing now. joe biden just capped the price of insulin for seniors at $35 a month. gave medicare the power to negotiate lower prescription drug prices. and prices are already starting to go down.
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on a half million dollars bail. that decision prompting outrage from one of his accuser, molly line on the story with more. hello, molly. >> hello, bill. a man prosecutors was linked to a series of rapes in boston dating back to 2007 is set to be released from jail pending trial. matthew, 35 years old working as an attorney. that job in question. the new jersey man was extradited to boston where he pleaded not guilty to several charges including three counts of aggravated rape and two counts of kidnapping. his attorney says the family expects to pull together the $5 hundred thousand cash bail needed to secure his release as soon as this week. once released, he will have to wear a monitoring brace lets. one woman is speaking out. >> i have waited so long to have my day in court with him and, you know, now he is able to just
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go back to his life and walk around for a year and, you know, he could get away or, you know, he could do it to somebody else, it just -- it's just sad. >> prosecutors say he lured several victims into a vehicle, threatened them with a gun or knife and took them to an isolated area in the city. the cases went unsolved for 15 years until the f.b.i. linked cases using dna 0ing in as the defendant and snagging a drinking glass during a corporate event hoping to confirm a link. the attorney says investigators illegally obtained the dna releasing a statement it does appear the government obtained dna evidence from my client without a search warrant. it will most vigorously be challenged in court. he has also lived in wisconsin,
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california and new york. investigators are urging anyone they may have been a victim to come forward or if anyone has information about the cases they are currently pursuing to come forward to that information with boston police or f.b.i. >> bill: molly line, thanks. >> latched onto his eyes up. you guys see us doing this and pointing up but we're really fixing our eyes on christ. >> we have had a lot of success this year. joy from the lord is the only thing that can keep you embracing the memories, moments, friendships. >> we worked our butts off to be here an want to win. it is not the end of the world. our life is in christ and that's all that matters. >> dana: oklahoma winners of the women college world series their faith is their most valued principle and how the team achieves victory. one of the players you heard earlier joins us now. grace, great to have you here. tell me about the teamwork and
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the workouts you do together and how the team pulled together. faith is the base principle, i understand. >> after this high level there is a lot expected of us. there is so much work that goes in and the team really has to rally around each other. the coolest thing is we're united in faith. there are some unbelievers on the team but we all truly believe god has given us these talents and abilities and our responsibility to give him glory and point others to him on the big stage we have on college softball. >> dana: it's a very competitive sport. has it given you a leg up? >> yeah. thankfully we know that god works all things for the good of those who love the lord. that's romance 8:28. our faithfulness doesn't lead to results. god's will is god's will and we can just trust that if we are being faithful he knows what's
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best for us. that's the message that we're telling our team. jada said that in the interview. even if things didn't go our way we'd still be faithful and know god has great things in store. it may not be good in our eyes but in his eyes he knows what's best. >> dana: what's next for the team and you? >> well, i'm excited to be getting married. it is coming up in a few weeks. i'm super excited for that. then from there just seeing how much of an impact i can make for his kingdom. softball was my mission field for the last few years and i'm just excited to see where he has me next. i'll be involved in fellowship of christian athletes making impacts and young kids and college athletes. i love sharing what god is doing in my life and how it can impact those kids. >> dana: tell us about your future husband. >> michael turk. he was a punter at ou.
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he also has a youtube channel called hang time. give it is subscribe. he makes awesome videos with football, bible studies. he just signed with the miami dolphins. he is pursuing that dream and excited to support him in that and live out a godly marriage that god designed for us and just we're so excited to see what the lord has in store for us. >> dana: thank you for giving us all inspiration this morning. good luck to you and michael. grace, thank you. >> bill: good story. there is a bail hearing for the utah mother accused of killing her husband before she wrote a children's book about grief in her life. the judge's ruling on that. mark cuban shows his woke side argues the far left ideology is actually good for business. actually good for business. so you only pay for what you need. you could save $700 dollars just by switching. ooooh, let me put a reminder on my phone. on the top of the pile! oh. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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columbian children who survived 40 days in the amazon jungle. when a search party found the children on friday the first thing the 4-year-old said was my mother is dead. the first words from the elideest child credited with keeping the family alive were i'm hungry. the four miracle children found in a forest clearing without shoes and thin from mall nourishment. too tired to walk at that time. 40 days. they survived. the mother did not. one of the kids was 1-year-old. >> dana: the older siblings kept that baby alive. amazing and we will learn more as they rest and get ready and stronger, amazing story. shock waves sent through the largest police force in the country. the new york city police commissioner resigned 18 months into the job. no clear reason was given. reports of conflicts between her and the mayor are coming to
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light. nobody is at the head of the police force at the start of the hot and violent summer. paul mauro is here now. you think it is a real shame. >> i can tell you this is highly unusual. this is not the way these handoffs generally go. they're very choreographed affairs, press conference, back slapping and the key point is the successor is almost always named. the whole city knows what we're getting into. that didn't happen here and indicative of turbulence at the top. >> the "new york post" on saturday gave us a clue. i thought these people were tight. nypd commissioner losing power to adams. shootings down 17%. murders dropped 13. that trend continued into this year, 27% drop in shootings, overall crime jumped by 23% in her first year.
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a mixed bag here. we were really at a low point when she took the job. >> we really were. a turbulent period coming out of the post george flied era, etc. she was stepping into the maelstrom. she put her print on things very early by standing up immediately to alvin bragg on his day one memo. it raised eyebrows. she came in quietly. not a name known here in the city. she immediately put her stamp on that by speaking up and saying that this is not good for the city. this is not good for the cops. she continued that tone. i want to highlight something she did recently as last week. the fed that monitors the stop, question and frisk came out a report claiming almost one quarter of nypd stops were essentially unlawful. she fired back and said i don't agree with your numbers. we are 6% lower. we think it was primarily an
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articulation problem. then she said this. 96% of my shooting victims are black or brown. 90% of my homicide victims also. we go where the crime is. she was responding to the racialized narrative coming out of the federal report that was being supported by the usual suspects. she says we go where the crime is and shut the whole thing down. that's a police commissioner. >> dana: one thing that is interesting because there is not a lot of women police commissioners. there are more than there used to be. a black woman as a police commissioner comes in, the first one and what does she get but the respect from the cops. that's remarkable. >> she earned it, man. because she comes in, not a name that's known to them and police can be very defensive in these circumstances and a bit paranoid. she came in and worked it and did it. as a police executive the glue between the bottom and the top,
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some places that big squishy middle. the overhead was the mayor's office. ultimately you have to decide, you have to say where will i triangulate, am i with the people that workers or with the politicians. that's always a police commissioner's role. she threw her lot in with the rank and file and really supported and respected her and maybe was one of the things that led to some of the turbulence that she experienced. >> bill: we need more cops in the city, not fewer, right? here is the mass exit of nypd. 36 officers resigned up 36%, up 117% since 2021. how do we change that? >> that's tough. i will tell you a nuance in that. most of the police department ranks except for the pba, just the police department rank are out of contract and without a contract for a good long time. so when people coming into
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police agencies, right, you want to be a cop wherever you are from. nypd used to be the gold standard. it still is but the attraction is gone. i don't know what i will get paid if i make rank. there is a ton of agencies that -- a ton of oversight. you say to yourself maybe miami p.d. is starting to look good. they might make it a sweeter deal and do it fast. >> dana: a big loss for new york city and check against the mayor here. we'll find out. >> we'll see in six months where we are. >> dana: thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> please do not let corey out on bail where she will be a risk to do further harm. please protect what eric put his life on the line for. his three boys. >> the utah mother of three children accused of fatally poisoning her husband after writing a children's book about coping with grief following his death. welcom
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