what was going on in the courthouse but what they think is their secret weapon. what is going on for the former president legally is the backdrop of a economy that could be picking up steam, inflation coming down and maybe, maybe making everyone forget about battles in a courthouse and what is happening at your house or so they hope. "the five" is now. >> hello, everyone. it is 5:00 in new york city and this is the five. trump reacting for the first time moments ago after pleading not guilty to 37 counts related to his handling of classified documents. >> i think it is going great.

we have a rigged country, a country that is corrupt, has no borders, nothing but problems, we are a nation in decline. you see the crowds and everything else. we have a country and decline like never before. >> we are getting new sketches inside the court where trump was the first president to be arraigned on federal charges. he seems -- his chief antagonist, adam schiff and hillary clinton are attacking republicans for defending him. >> a second national security risk, with all of these hopefuls attacking the justice department, calling this illegitimate, they are still criticizing the department. >> the response we have seen in

polling suggests they are going to stick with him, it is a colt. they are going to stick with their leader. >> she never learns. i had not heard her say that. i cannot believe she said that. >> she never learns. they said she made up the russian collusion hoax. a >> calling them the deplorable's. >> and she hates us. today was a sad day for america. if you look at it from 30,000 feet, you have the most popular candidate running for president in the united states. being indicted by a special counsel that works on the

indictment, under the administration needs the approval of the attorney general to get this indictment. which administration's president wants to run against this defendant in this serious criminal case. i said i don't believe any documents have been destroyed. i haven't heard anyone was gigivenaccess to documents and e espionage claim is something americans feel he is anti-american. i don't know anyone more pro-american, but there is no evidence. no one is saying, despite they got the narrative out there before the indictment was unsealed, we knew everything that was going on before it was unsealed. we had this narrative, we found out and there is no indication

there was any harm. harm is an essential element to the crime of espionage. otherwise, you are dealing with a presidential records acts that was created in 1978. this is now criminal. >> it is because nixon had the boxes loaded up and ford was like -- is that allowed? >> they passed a law and they figured it out. we have a prosecutor whose reputation has been sullied by the united states supreme court and juries across this country. you also have a guy who is promising a speedy trial. trump is not up to speed right now in terms of his

representation. he needs attorneys who are classified document approved. you would have to have a death penalty defense attorney who has the credentials in a death penalty case. this is going to take a long time. in the end, it is laughable we are going through this right n now. >> one thing is people on the republican side would say there is a double standard. if you are clinton, you don't get prosecuted. what about the double standard that americans feel and do you think hillary clinton is insane for what she just said? >> i don't think she is insane. i would never use the term deplorable again.

>> she said almost worse. they are in a cult. >> i don't think they are in a cult but donald trump holds a mystical level and power of control over the republican base and they are immune to taking in new negative and dangerous and criminal information about him. did that sense, i understand what she was trying to say. the presidential records act does not apply to agency documents. the way people are using this to say he is allowed to do this, he is not allowed to do it. he is not allowed to have those documents. he cannot decide when he declassifies them. stop using the presidential records act.

in terms of -- >> thank god i printed it out. i am about to smack you with it in a second. >> this isn't classic espionage. there are a lot of things included. most importantly, unauthorized retention of documents and obstruction of justice, which it seems clear they have him on. people on both sides of the aisle have said these are the darlings, what they are looking for. is it a sad day? yes, and $0.01. it is always sad to see a president in this position but what is more sad as we have a president who did these things. everyone says this is unprecedented. donald trump is doing things that are unprecedented and we don't know these documents weren't compromised.

we heard there were two chinese national intruders. he waved around a document in front of mark meadows. the amount of deflection and you throw out hunter biden is a. who cares. talk about what happened today and don't make up things. >> before i get into the act, which i have here, you said the trump voters are immune from taking in new information. that is such b.s. we are learning about the presidential records act, the espionage act, and we are making legal arguments and using precedent and comparisons to how the justice department has treated democrats. you are the ones that don't want to take in new information.

you are the ones, when you show bank records of the chinese lining the pockets of the biden families, you don't want to talk about it. there could be tapes of -- that there has been a bribe allegation. you are hear no evil, see no evil. don't point fingers when your side won't wrestle with the facts. here is the act. under the statutory scheme established by the presidential records act, the decision to segregate materials is made by the president at his discretion. when bill clinton took these records from the white house, the act of taking them home made them personal records. there is no permission in the

act that permits the archivist to assume control over anything that is personal and if he did have a decent legal team, they would have squashed the subpoena with the presidential records act and you are going to hear it litigated in miami. don't act like this is some sort of slam dunk case. it will go to the supreme court. there is no way the supreme court is going to uphold the conviction of a former president, possibly a current president, over where a piece of paper goes. >> i don't have much to say. i was busy. i want someone to look at me the way the sketch artist looked at donald trump. i would look amazing with that

sketch. the main question is motive and the obvious answer, there wasn't one. he could be a violation of a process, but the idea he had an intent to commit treason is a political line of thinking. you cannot indict over carelessness, a president, even if you can, you may be able to do it, but you shouldn't. politics dictates that you should destroy people but patriotism says don't destroy a president, move on. if this indictment caused some kind of damage, if it had caused damage or injury, i get it, but it did not. punishment is for a different crime and that crime is being donald trump. we know this. he doesn't know when to stop, he

plays by his own rules. there are risks involved and this is one. what i find interesting is he stops at a cafe, he plays golf, do you ever get the feeling his world is a video game and is the main character and everyone around him are end pcs and he just makes it more difficult to see if he can get to the next level. i don't know if he has a pulse when it comes to this sort of thing. it is part of that life. these are not big issues. we are going to do it because it is the summer and we have to talk about something.

>> to add that on today in a moment where joe biden is in the toilet and they are trying to figure out a way to find voters that will come back to them and the elite democrats, they do not like you and she is reconfirming it. if i were her, i would say thank you for your service, we are good here. >> they don't want to be murdered. we are going to have to put extra security on you on the way home. up next, another red flag as governor newsom calls homeless price is disgrace. you can't always avoid migraine triggers like your next period. qulipta® can help prevent migraines. you can't always prevent what's going on outside... ...that's why qulipta® helps what's going on inside. qulipta® gets right to work. in a 3-month study,

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>> more sign san francisco is going down the toilet. westfield mall has stopped paying its half a billion dollar mortgage and will be surrendering its namesake to lenders. it joins a growing exodus of retailers leaving downtown. try to blame republicans for it. >> they are leaving san francisco. my question to you is, between taxes, bureaucracy, crime, homelessness, and the homeless numbers are not good for you and

your state. >> it is a disgrace. whole foods did shut down one business but it was a bad location. certain parts are bad and we own it. >> the thing is, we have to give them credit for showing up. why is he answering these questions now? he knows it will be an issue next year when he runs for president. >> he is warming up. i was impressed he showed up on fox, he engaged, took ownership of the issue. being in a city run by democrats is like being in a bad marriage where you pretend everything is great but it is just so they don't have to talk about how bad things are. once you acknowledge there is a

problem, you have to do something about that. homelessness is not about lack of affordable housing. it is about drug addicts that want to wander around and live in tents on the sidewalk. you can't coddle antisocial behavior, you can't subsidize it. you have to stigmatize it. you can't celebrate people with purple hair and nose rings, four kids with four different men who are dressed like trash and make them out to be some sort of cutting edge hero. you have to call them what they are. they have failed in life and they are on their deathbed. >> if whole foods had never gone to that location, they would be

accused of racism or creating a food desert. >> they said they understood, rampant shoplifting. he has overseen, he was the mayor there and now he is the governor. now, you have the westfield mall closing down, there is no place to go. if you want to go to the theater, there is no place to go shopping, so why would you go down there? when the republicans were heading up to new hampshire, the first question every candidate got was about opioid abuse, crisis and addiction. now it is homelessness.

if gavin newsom decides to run, imagine running against him with all those images. >> i just came up with a serial for goths. doom loops. >> and he knows that joe is not going to be there. he is saying on loyal to joe. let me fight desantis. he says i like donald trump, he was great to me. he is a very smooth character.

he owns the fact they have all this homelessness, but he doesn't have a solution for it. he went to the french laundry, i was wrong, but he did not have a solution like this is something we shouldn't have done other than based upon what we were telling people. i love the bad location example. that is. these are excuses, no solutions. the perfect example is the residents are left to defend for themselves. there is one group in san francisco they were so inundated with crime and drugs and homelessness, they did their own gofundme and raised $25,000 so they could buy these 1400-pound planter so the homeless couldn't pitch a tent in their neighborhood. maybe we ought to do more than

that. they are not providing a safe place for people to live and prosper and businesses to prosper and home values to go up. now people have to take it into their own hands. the people are the walking dead. i remember saying to a defendant on an arraignment, trying to decide bail and i said what do you do. he said i don't do anything. he said i am a walking dead. he was a druggie and he knew it. >> jessica, now we are down to you. what do you have to say? i blame the problems in san francisco on you. how do you plead? >> guilty as charged.

the homelessness situation is sad. goes on with straight news anchors, talks to meal, everybody should go everywhere. i thought hannity was fair to him. he has his facts he is going to put out there, but he certainly let newsom put his out there. the numbers about the job creation numbers, and good for each side. when you look at the numbers of who is watching the networks, fox is the only place that has persuadable voters. we have a huge bunch of independence, but people are watching cnn and msnbc, they know who they are voting for. when you see what joe biden was

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>> an arizona mom taking to capitol hill to warn about the growing dangers of ai. >> this is different. this is terrorizing, lasting trauma. it was my daughter's voice, the way she spoke. i will never be able to shake that voice out of my mind. knowing that they are being harmed and they are helpless. is this our new normal? >> ai is not all doom and gloom. paul mccartney revealed artificial intelligence is used to create the final beatles record using the late

john lennon's voice to do it. >> we were able to get it pure through this ai. so we could mix the record as you normally do. there is a good side to it and a scary side. we just have to see where that leads. >> people are using ai to recreate voices. we heard from that mother, these money scams have been around for a long time. how do you differentiate between your own child and how do we get to the point where we can backtrack and identify who the culprit is? >> i would assume people who can code these things and create these things, it can be used for the reverse and the government has the capabilities.

remember the san bernardino shooters phone and apple wouldn't go into it and the government said give me three seconds and i will get you everything in there. all of us were affected by her testimony. these are crimes. they are crimes we don't know how to regulate. there has to be some solution. if we want to get the benefits of it, the new beatles record is a great benefit. if you are going to have people using deepfakes and the implications for misinformation, we are going into an election year. >> there were old crimes being committed in new ways. they need to be able to keep up legislatively and identify it.

>> the mother was on newsroom this morning and one of the things that happened is at&t kept trying to call her. she didn't want to pick up the phone because she is wary of people calling her that she doesn't know. when they did get a message to her, she was able to trace back the call and now they know where the call came from. they were asking her to present herself because they were going to they were going to kidnap h her. the internet regulation, it is too late. anybody watching today, take it upon yourself that you need to talk to your parents and your children and say this is happening, it is real and be aware of it. they could send the check, they could get in the car, or your

children could do that. we have a responsibility to make sure we are protecting ourselves because the government is going to be late to this. >> if you use ai to create a beatles song or any other song, who gets the money? if the label hasn't already done the song, how do you monetize it and how do you access it? weeks it is a weird loophole. i get all the money. you can do this with a beatles song. for the same reason you can't enjoy a lab grown meat, there needs to be some kind of effort supplied by a living thing to make that thing worth it. what i go to a restaurant where the chefs are robots? or steak from a cow will tell your brain it is better than a lab grown steak.

art made by ai on a computer lacks the sweat and tears of the human artist and that is what is going to happen here. you need to have a human hand involved in things. here is a weird theory from scott adams. art communicates the reproductive prowess of the artist subconsciously. you sense it is talent or worth. that is why you cannot be impressed by artificial intelligence, because you cannot sleep with it. >> i am glad you are coming around to my side on this. >> there is something weird about the other story. it is not coming together. >> i was right, you were wrong on ai. you have been touting self-driving cars for years and you need to be able to smell the

marijuana smoke coming from the outside car, whether to hit the brakes. we need the human touch. have you ever been to the restaurant by salt bay? he takes the salt and does the salt like this, a machine couldn't do that. you are just getting pure salt. with this, you are getting the salt and the performance. if a machine doesn't do that, you will not pay that much mo money. what happen to good old fashion pranks? i would call someone and say i was delivering pizza, or what about the nigerian email scam. if only spi had a little more free time, they could go after some of these scoundrels. i wish we weren't caught up in

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>> is affirmative action on the chopping block? john wang is one of the people suing claiming affirmative action is to blame for his rejection from top-tier colleges

and universities despite near-perfect s.a.t. scores. he is now telling his story to laura ingram. >> the schools i applied to were mit, caltech, princeton, harvard and carnegie mellon. they said it is tougher to get in, especially as an asian american. i had a 20% chance of getting admission into harvard than a 95% chance as an african american. >> affirmative action is still the law of the land. the problem is we have a world of equity where there is no real equality what he was saying as he has a 20% chance of getting into harvard with the same numbers, you have a 95% chance of getting in. the scales are so tipped against the qualified people in terms of

what are we doing? we are trying to make up for what happened in the past. get over it and start over ag again. >> if you did it by scores, only scores, which you have a majority of asian undergraduate people in harvard? >> harvard wrote down on a piece of paper if they were to do that, 43% of their student body would be asian americans. the supreme court is going to do away with this. unfortunately for students, schools are going to find a way to get around it. they will call it something else. the students are going to set a precedent not only for colleges, but think about that school in virginia, one of the top

schools. this is an issue for asian americans at that school. those parents said we are not going to allow this. >> guy got a 1590, he should have taken it again. 1600, that is what i got. the reality is this guy is smart, he might be too smart for college. don't waste your time. when you develop quotas for some people, others are going to get elbowed out. asians are not getting a fair piece of the pie because the pie is finite. it is interesting, we talk about how cultures are different, you better not culturally appropriate but we apply the

prism of equity on cultures, which are impossible because they are different. you can't expect the same outcome for this type of person and this type of person. it is not true, it will not happen, why would you want to go to a place that does not want you there? take your brain elsewhere. >> stanford is a poor man's devry. >> if you are running one of these universities, what would your diversity policy be based on? >> grades, we will get data on this. americans want to promote diversity but it gets tricky, the majority opposes a omission

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