that will do it for this. thank you for your time today. we'll see you back in washington. many thanks to our audience here and across the country and the globe on fox nation. i am shannon bream. former president trump maintains his innocence and lead in the polls as another former president sparks controversy as he weighs in on the 2024 field. the nation's first black president calls out to republican presidential hopefuls how they talk about race in america. now senator tim scott is firing back arguing once to deny progress to protect its power. fox news to send a system exclusive ascender scott to discuss whether this upbeat message can peel away boats are

made by didn't reelection. meanwhile a second trump indictment doing nothing to slow down his fight to win back the white house. >> we won't win bigger and better. >> is not spy up stopping his rivals one young a political outsider. >> and the first millennial to ever run for president as a republican. >> vivek ramaswamy says he can win young voters and pet the government down to size. >> we have a bureaucracy that becomes so hardened, so toxic can't reform a top, you shut it down. vivek ramaswamy joins us live in his longshot nomination is about to part of the former president. then, secretary blinken that lands in beijing for high-stakes meeting among fraught relations as chinese president xi cozies up to more u.s. business leaders. we have a deep dive on the prospect for diplomacy.

plus, florida versus california as the rivalry between governors gavin newsom and ron desantis heats up. >> you do it to our debate with ron desantis? >> omega-3 pig rex desantis is turning the tables, derek newson to take on a president bided in the democratic primary. >> is going to throw your hat in the ring and challenge joe? are you just going to sit on the sidelines and chirp? >> will ask our sunday pan out what this means for 2024. all right now on "fox news sunday". ♪ 36 telephone fox news in washington. dynamics in the republican primary have never been more complicated. for president trump since he has raised millions of dollars in the last few days on the keels of and possibly because of an indictment over his alleged mishandling of classified documents. now is 2024 primate rivals must balance the impossible for them to carve out their own lanes as a challenge him but they do not

want to alienate his voters for this moment you will hear at length from two of them republican senator tim scott who says he charges are serious but also it says he sees a double standard in the justice system. an vivek ramaswamy is pledging to pardon former president trump. we begin with a publican center tim tim scott senator welcome back to "fox news sunday". >> good morning thank for having me. shannon: you been in the headlines to get your name checked by president obama. talk about republicans and race. here's a bit of what he said on the podcast this week. >> i think there is on history of african-american or other minority candidates within the republican party will validate americans say everything is great. and that we can all make it. state forces aspired to be skeptical of candidates who did not acknowledge and do not address hundreds of years of racism. talked about your experiences followed by store clerks,

getting pulled over, sometimes a hard time getting into the capitol testing your senator to those make president obama is a point? >> actually not. there is no higher complement to be checked by president obama for the democrats feel threatened they pull out, drag out the former president have to make some negative comments of someone running. hoping their numbers go down so people need to know. the two proof of my life disproves the lies of the radical left. talk about addressing the issue of poverty. my opportunities seen more than $50 billion go into the poorest, hardest hit communities in this country. the majority of them aren't minority. hp you funding in his administration he totally missed it. we took the funding for hbcus to the highest levels in the history of the country and then shannon, we made it permanent. the radical left and the teachers unions refused to allow

quality education and big blue cities. i support school choice because i support common sense. the radical president obama have failed. they have failed and they have failed. we will make it happen under scott, under my administration will make sure kids have quality education in every single zip code. opportunity zones 2.0 to make sure we bring more resources more opportunities and more jobs to the hardest hit areas whether that is rural iowa city chicago. there is a way for us to alleviate poverty. not by raised by the statistics themselves but that is what america stands for. if anyone should be standing and shouting at the mountain tops that america is not a racist country, it should be the man that americans supported twice for the nomination. i'm becoming president. the evolution of america is a

palpable. progress in this nation undeniable. shannon: let's talk about bigotry scott administers real click clear politics advertises and says present times that 50% can you give up place or to a policy or to where you're different from him and your offering something better? >> certainly. the one thing i will say i continue to campaign in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, our voters primary voters are starving for a message filled with optimism, hope, anger in conservative values with a backbone. my numbers continue to climb. were i am campaigning is good news. we moved to third place in the polls in iowa. recently third place in hampshire as well. people are responding credibly positive to hope and opportunity has long as we talk about it from a conservative perspective for i'm the most conservative person in the race for preside president. shannon: this idea be conservative and being optimistic is different than what president trump is offeri

offering? >> what i am saying is that voters are responding to my message but that is good news, number one for the size of my audience has continued to grow. the enthusiasm continues to go higher. my policy positions talking about the next era of x preprint manufacturing homebrew talking about the fact we are in the midst of a cold war, economic cold war with china. having the ability to secure our borders and to stop the thousand americans from losing their lives to fentanyl. two-step people from crossing the border illegally in our national watchlist more importantly to address the failures of the radical left and joe biden. our americans continue to face crippling inflation. 16% since he has taken office. as a guide raised in a single-parent household mired in poverty when my mom's gas goes up by 40%, the electricity 20%,

food by 20% this is a crisis. having lived on both sides that proverbial track means that my life disproves a narrative of the left but it also reinforces that in america any kid from anywhere at any time we as a nation by your character your grit and your talents. talk about this optimistic political message. right now the mood of the republican base is nothing but agreements. the hard time reaching them emotionally ration them in their hearts but how do you convince voters who want a fighter and most of them in your party see that in president trump. what you offer can be just as effective. >> fighting is good. but winning is better. we have lost seven on the last

eight presidential elections as it relates the popular vote. three in a row. but we have to do as a party and what we need as a nation of someone who stands on american values or of persuasion. americans today need to be persuaded we are not talking about red or blue, black and white. we are talk about the future not the past. i provide the necessary incentive to bring people to the table so that we get the job done. let's go and get it done. shannon: gives anything the d.o.j. indictment of president trump is a serious issue. do you believe it's politically motivated? you said you would in-store integrity of the d.o.j., what would you do? >> the first thing we have to do is fire joe biden. the second thing we do aspire merrick garland. and we fire chris ray. if the clean out the political appointment to the department of justice to restore confidence and integrity in the d.o.j.

today we want to know that in our justice system lady justice with a blindfold. all americans will be treated fairly by lady justice but today this d.o.j. continues to hunt republicans while they protect democrats. it's not just the former president. think about the fact the pro life activists, his home was invaded by a swat team guns polled. think about turn to show up at school board meetings. by this and d.o.j. are called domestic terrorists and then a weapon icing the d.o.j. against your political opponents. i cannot think of anything more un-american and unacceptable. before you think the indictment is political in nature because my going to get you on that. and we signed on with our next guest is asked auto which is if truck gets pardoned. >> it will not yield hypothetical out by every

american is a proven guilty. shannon: it's under scott thank you for your time. thank you so much. >> thank you shannon. so far out you can hear a lot more from center scott twos and is going to sit down sean hannity for wide ranging town hall beach, south carolina. 9:00 p.m. eastern on fox news channel tuesday. turn out to a 24 republican contender vivek ramaswamy the biotech entrepreneur and political rookie pretty made a surprising presidential bid back in february calling himself an outsider. now standing headfirst republican culture wars and says it's time to rethink a number of federal agencies. but vivek ramaswamy like other corrals the republican front runner former president trump. vivek ramaswamy hasn't been a vocal defender president trump joins us to discuss his campaign in the pledge support for the former president. vivek ramaswamy welcome to fox news and j. >> is good to see you shannon. shannon: you said you part of me president others to join in and do the same. you talked about this being a political indictment political

in nature. talked about dismantling institutions wholesale like the fbi. the "new york times" which is covering in iowa said this of the question becomes for many people, are republicans like vivek ramaswamy risking the stability the country for their own political fortunes? some fear the aggressive rhetoric he and other republicans regularly use both in defense of mr. trump and in attacking system out lasting damage. she acknowledged that possibility? are you worried about it? >> look i'm even more worried about the opposite possibility. which is when the department of justice weaponize is a police force against people based on the political viewpoints. that already undermines trust in the justice system. i think it is important for leaders, including like me too stand up and call that out on sparingly. i think it helps build up trust in our institutions to say it does not have to stay this way. under my watch will make sure the fbi first of all does not exist as an institution. the local level of local

prosecutors and local police. the federal level you have u.s. marshals the department of justice. but we have large bureaucracies that fit in between is a formula for correction. whether was that fbi going after martin luther king jr. threatening to commit suicide is to go or whether it's going after political conservatives like president trump today. that is not justice. president trump or not in the rictus is not not about my pogo calculus. at helps to build trust in our institutions. that's i'm speaking out. for both you and the present have embraced this label are raised eyebrows american nationalist or nationalist received cap that might be uncomfortable for some people it might turn off some voters. so why embrace it? what does it mean to you? >> to be in nationalism does not have to be a bad word. means we stand for the ideals set this nation into motion to years ago.

the pursuit of excellence. the rule of law. free speech and open debate, self-governance these are the values that won the american revolution. we need to be proud of these ideals again. young americans across this country are no longer proud to be american. i am. as the first millennial to ever run for president as a republican i think it is part of my responsibility to revive that >> pride in the next generation. the beautiful thing about america is we are not a country founded on ethnicity or on a single language or a monarch. we are a nation founded on a set of ideals that brought together a divided group of people to it 50 years ago. i think those ideals could still bring together a divided group of people today. that is what i am running and i expect we can't that's i'm in this race. shannon: let's talk about why you were in the race. looking average of 2.4% real clear politics pulling the averages there. the folks at national review are not convinced you're actually running for president for they

write this, like mitt romney vivek ramaswamy speaks conservatism as a second language and like mitt romney does not really know it. he's not really running for president he's building a giant enormous mailing list. the writer argues running and losing can be very lucrative. tv and radio contracts, speaking fees they think that is what you are about. >> that is laughable. you know what i did? i did not take a tin can ask a bunch of dollars of patent hand with permission to run. i have live the full arc of the american dream. i am proud of that. i put over $10 million of my hard earned money required for more than that into this campaign. the ideas is profitable for me is actually a joke. the reality is you make the sacrifices because we care about something greater, that is our country. we are in the middle of a national identity crisis. if you ask most people my age and even younger what is it mean to be an american? you get a blank stare in response pretty think that is a

problem. i think too long the conservative movement we have been running from something. i am in this race to start leading us to something. to our vision of what it actually means to be an american today. to speak the hard truth that others in the democratic party and even others in the republican party are afraid to speak out loud. there are two genders, god is real. fossil fuels are a requirement for human prosperity. that last one got me censored on microsoft owned linked in. i do think it's going to take an outsider but not someone who grew up in the blue political system. but a to get the job done. that was trump in 2015 for i will tie on pulling a little bit ahead of work trump was in june of 2015. the debate stages of the shelton except i'm competent were not going to win the election but do it in a landslide like reagan did. i think the single most unifying thing we can deliver the country request to talk loving outside of your needs the clinical game. what is your most ambitious and

desires is to dismantle part of washington. you talked with the fbi earlier federal agencies and the administer a statement "washington post" george will writes a pieces from islam is not encountered many problems that are impervious to his charisma and certitude believes a forceful expressive presidential vision can conquer washington's viscosity. when he has lived longer, he will know better. even president trump talked about how hard it was to drain the swamp for the agencies here the infrastructure, the bureaucracy. what makes you better equipped? >> to bring a unique combination of someone is an outsider has had success in business. but with a deep understanding of the constitution's statutory authority to do it. if i may say this i think i am the presidential canopy the last 30 years who has the best understanding of the legal basis to actually shutdown the administrative state. five usc 3302 empowers the president to set the regulations governing the office of personnel management. setting the roles of people who

work in the civil service department. there is one thing i can promise but i am leaving office the top thing i will say we have done is when time or done while three branches of government in the u.s., not for what will shutdown the rated tory state. that's when the keys to actually unlocking the economy itself. we are slated to grow at less thans year. we've grown over 4% for most of our history. the administrative straight the weight shackled the energy sector. the way it stays people at home and cynical back to work this is a big part of the problem. i understand this deeply on constitutional grounds but i believe it agency deserves to be shut down. very quickly before going to ask you about the comment it's bad for corporate america is

actually good business and people are looking ahead to the customers in the future. quick comment from you. businesses have a purpose. their products and services to customers who actually need them and yes, to make a profit unapologetically. most businesses weighing the social dispute often that's bad for business look what happened to bud viper look what's happening at target. more importantly it's a bad for our timid culture and our country. we need political spaces that bring people together with a black or white or democrat or republican bring the private sector the sports stadiums of the country the labs of this country that is where americans unite regardless of their partisan or dented terry affiliations. i feel so bad for capitalism is also bad for american democracy. as i've been leading the crusade against a full assembly or some take it all the way to the white house. several but you and mark on opposite sides of the conversation vivek ramaswamy thank you so much. execution m.

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this is called election interference in yet another attempt to rate and steal a presidential election. more importantly it has a political persecution like something straight out of a fascist or communist nation. before president trump's take on the federal charges he is facing retype of the centigram usa today white house correspondent francesca chambersburg present the constitutional accountability center elizabeth wydra.

former chief of staff for mike pence, marc short. bloomberg news mario parker. welcome back everyone. you heard of the former president had to say the popular mind for him out on the camping stump or writer said trump x-ray $7 million for the campaigns of the federal indictment: suggest trump strategy is working a vast majority of republicans, some 81% believe the charges are political motivated rate that's according to writer polo that came out on monday. francesca, he's not being heard by these indictments anything politically it seems like they help. quick desantis campaign sees it as a sugar high for their strategy here is essentially to keep trying to chip away at it for their helpful even though right now republicans are supporting him maybe you could talk to her, november there are other cases that are still out there. they will be able to eventually hold their numbers up in the generally the response with the letter the gop field. examines fighting to get there. to get the criteria out it's a busy summer and winter and get

to that stage. political notes this. portrayals of her six month span during of the 2024 campaign. in january, one in march. possibly more indictments and comfort elizabeth is when my fellow attorneys on the panel today. to manage any one case is a lot were present as a lot. deck for cases in the middle of that it takes a lot of energy. cuts it takes energy these are really important issues that he is facing. these are not some small side trial. were talking about charges of violating the espionage act reasonably potential indictments on the horizon deal with attempting to overthrow democracy. we have potential indictments coming of the state of georgia. potential federal indictment with the actions ungenerous six. what we are looking at here is a group of everyday americans. by that i mean the jury that indicted donald trump for the

jury that found him liable in new york. groups of everyday americans are holding him accountable. to francesca's point as this continues to be of those everyday americans holding him accountable come to the fore might see a change in attitudes. >> innocent until proven guilty on any of these charges they do take a lot of energy forces rivals to come to his defense. repeatedly progress outsourcing of the interview just have with vivek ramaswamy. versus the rest of the field they contort themselves around a rival these cases it strengthens trump's argument that he is the fighter for resolute basis sticks with you no matter what. the primary voting.

>> the policies that they what it would to decide the globe and the debate stays. former governor asa hutchinson is not happy about this breeze running a patent essentially says you got to support whoever the eventual nominee is not going to vote for him. many president trump, if he is a convicted felon babies convicted of espionage are not going to vote for him. you think everyone will sign onto the pledge? >> must've on the platform sta stage, launch exceptions donald trump he said i'm not going to sign the pledge. there's a lot of question what everyone else is going to do for this not to spend as much focus as to what donald trump is going to do it comes that pledge. i think about everybody coming to his defense you saw that in the manhattan case. think everyone thought it was more political. do not since that's the case this particular one. vivek ramaswamy's pledge i don't think using a classified document is life it's kind of understandably does not understanding gravity of human intelligence and what comes in

the closer some the accusations of what trump was in with these documents. when it comes to pardons, candidly with the most unseemly part of the administration to choppy cap to family members who people guilty of violent crimes. gift of real conversations what would people do with the power of a pardon? a couple people in the stage of been governors understand it. if you look actually donald trump's record when it came to pardons it was indefensible for building $750,000 to lobby is to try to gain a pardon. it's a question for all of us how he handled the pardon for quick surveillance of which party the president is from the get a ton of heat for these pardons they do at the end of their terms. >> trump is going to make clinton's family blush. stew for the psyche of the pledge and who is going to sign on too. richard walters tells us candidates who are complaining about this to the press should seriously reconsider their priorities whether they should even be running.

sound like the not going to pl play. was he going to ship to the debates? christiana another network you can essentially sign the pledge if you want there's not that much the rnc can be after-the-fact. if you debate in don't suffer the nominee is. asa hutchinson's campaign as you are noting something other tenants will get in on this to recant on that pledge. especially if trump is convicted of crimes. others can pick that the issue as are they want to get on the debate stage. so far past the ground anymore from you coming up or deceived just a minute this note for our viewers my colleague bret baier is going to sit out for president trump tomorrow for an exclusive interview by its wide ranging for the going to discuss the federal indictment, the race for the white house and much more. that's going to air 6:00 p.m. eastern on special report with bret baier and fox news channel medic don't miss it for their

new reports the u.s. and iran are quietly trying to negotiate and possibly provide the nuclear deal or some form of it. the dangerous disaster. their ports are not accurate there is no deal but there would ask retired military leader general jack keane whether he

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as a go secretary of state entity blinken arrived in beijing to mute senior chinese officials brings first biting cabinet member to make that trip to china for the visit comes after the discovery of a chinese spy balloon that flew over the entire country earlier this ye year. and amid reports china's growing ties with few but the four-star general jack keane. first let's turn to lucas thomas of the white house whether blinken can amend relations and skeptics are questioning whether he should be there at all. hello lucas. question and the first time in five years to a of state has visited china. secretary blinken last trip was abruptly scrapped in early february when the giant chinese spy balloon flew across the united states. secretary of state entity blinken keeping it diplomatically for the cameras. and at meetings of chinese officials the days and weeks before he got there china saw a procession of american chief executives passing through beijing including microsoft and

bill gates. president xi telling gates quote you are the first american friend i've met with so far this year. president biden has not spoken to his chinese counterpart yet in 2023. he has played down the berlin incident as quote so late. i still think the leadership new art was new but wasn't it new is going on. >> is more than the blown intent balloon shirt shoot down recent security question for chinese fighter jet buzzed an american surveillance plane in the south china sea. a chinese warship dangerously cut in front of american guided missile destroyer in the taiwan strait. that was just hours after biden's defense secretary said the u.s. would not be bullied. the white house also recently acknowledged china has maintained a spy base in cuba since 2019. president biden could meet his counterpart at the g20 summit.

support lucas thomas at the white house happy father's day. during exam fox news senior strategic analyst retired retired four-star general jack keane. welcome back. >> right to be a shannon. shannon: let's art clinton's visit. based on think lucas outline there a lot people do not think our top diplomat should reward them including congressman mike waltzer. >> here we have our secretary of state on the international stage after harassing our ships. harassing our planes literally breaking into military bases in alaska, despite balloon and now the revelation of a spy base right on our shores in cuba. at what point do take a stuffed stand and say you do not get a meeting until his behavior stops? can we put conditions on our diplomacy? steve are calm and sent mike gallagher wrote the silent song invariably leads to appeasement in the face of fort aggression prints should the secretary be there? and if so what she does message

be? >> ever have any problem of the secretary going for and we have to have discussions with the number-one adversary in the world. the issue we all have is a diplomacy with this nation has real limits. we are to economic military and economic superpowers with fundamentally incompatible it irreconcilable differences. that is the reality of what we are dealing with. when we have entered into diplomatic phases take the previous administration and previous it ministration the good faith was diplomatically with president xi his advisers were at the end of the date when i spoke to a senior advisors and they sitting in general, despite all the overtures we made to china and all of the good words that were exchanged, nothing changed. the aggressive action at the expense of the united states was in full motion. nothing ever slowed down. we have to go into these discussions with that in mind at

a minimum. let's make certain the military people are talking to each oth other. that in case there is a mishap, a miscalculation, a misinterpretation we can pick up the phone and talk to somebody on the other end who we have some kind of relationship with, with that person despite the differences in our strategic and national goals taking place he here. we have to come to the realization our actions that are going to make the difference with china. not our words. and that is most significant. what am i talking about? one we got to make certain we continue. to do more of that. secondly, economic decoupling of a selective basis but not completely no one is suggesting completely. third, making certain we are arming taiwan or relearning a heckuva lesson in ukraine for we have to catch up militarily in the end of pacific region and

dominating. those are actions. those actions make a difference in china's pursuit of its goals. shannon: even mention how it impacts -- what's happening in ukraine messaging and the optics they take from that. i want to ask about ironic. this extensive reporting there's informal conversation about a deal coming together with regard to the nuclear program. the white house, entity blinken himself has said this in accurate reporting. it's not true there's no deal for the wall street journal's very skeptical about this whole thing. it's an unwritten agreement the clear technical restrictions that would compel enhance when they quote understanding it inevitably iran would face a world in a stronger position. we are talking about wiping out vans on billions of dollars i would flow in and allowing to continue things. what do you make of this question or should we be negotiating with them?

>> to give them another windfall of cash as of it as a result 2015 nuclear deal which led to an expansion of their proxy wars in the middle east it does not make any sense. it's not in our national interest. it's not our strategic interest in the persian gulf. and in israel. they know they're going to do with that they're going to fuel their proxy wars and they are seeking domination and control the middle east. that is the windfall this going to take place. hold them at 60% enrichment and curtailing some activities against sierra and iraq. no it was not a good deal in 2015. it's not a good deal now. shannon: there are concerns amongst members of congress this deal may be an attempt, if there is one, to go around them, the ratification process and them not getting a voice in it by let's talk ukraine. secretary of defense lloyd austin said this week is the counteroffensive heating up there here's the priority.

boxer remained focus on is making sure we are providing ukraine the security assistance it needs to be successful in this fight. >> i think the u.s. is doing on the front providing them that assistance they need? how's the counteroffensive going? >> we provide assistance it is not been timely enough. it has not been completely enough. as an example of the russians are using fighters and attack helicopters against the ukrainian offense right now as we speak. and over a year ago helped to fight in the offense. the europeans have put pressure on the administration. that's likely going to be the end of the same kind of pressure was put on tanks and armored vehicles the united states relented. the fact of the matter is the ukrainians, despite the challenges we have imposed on them were not given them everything they need in a timely manner. they are going to put up a fight here taking back their territory

but they want all the territory back. even the territory of russia took in 2014. operationally their goal is to reach and cut out the major supply route from russia to crimea the so-called land brid bridge. that's a major success that they are able to achieve that part that will give them the opportunity to threaten crimea with long range weapons systems and drones and possibly a ground attack the following year to wrap up taking a territory back. that's what it's about here. tactically the gym with a russian who is better defense in the art offense. they have to penetrate through six and are my lines of defense. that is new york city to charlotte. but they are doing is not much publicity. because it's low, it does not look like much is happening. a lot is happening is ukrainians are to find the penetration points. what's the best place they are to go through the obstacles and go through russia's mainline defense forces as they are pursuing the security forces in

front of it? that takes time. they do not want to give a lot of casualties which is the best place to do it. we get through the defenses you will exploit it and move rapid rapidly. that is what the plan is spirits for gently pushing your insight in these. thank you very much. happy father's day to everyone out there. we want to bring attention to an open letter group of 32 senators rachel wall street journal reporter. he has been detained in russia for monthly journal vehemently denies the spying charges russia's sent leveled against and for the dinners of letter expresses a profound anger and concern the senators say it is unjust they will not stop working until the journals to safely home. up next democrats fight over the order of their primary count of the could be setting a precedent by them for an embarrassing dilemma. could the incumbents are the voting season here for to give a

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>> a lot of politicians in this country cannot say the word union. but you know i am not one of them. i am proud to say the word. i'm proud to be the most pro- union president in american history from its present biden embracing his record after clinching a very early endorsement a big one from afl-cio purdue back out the panel per thousand good news for him. big endorsement yesterday. there are other headaches they're worried about on the campaign trail. one of them comes in the third party bid "washington post" opinion piece on that note labels can at the idea that went good third party candidate in all 50 state ballots. democrats and republicans

together put a piece together and said if he or she the third party candidate takes a small part of the anti- trump boat away from biden, trump is likely to be returned to the white house. that is why the note labels effort poses such danger to our democracy. how much of a headache is it for the d's are the hours? what is more of a headache for the d's i think. what you have got here if there is a rematch between biden and trump, we look at what happened in 2020 the difference between those two and the key swing states you could not fill a base pulsating or football stadium with that number voters for his to be razor thin close election. and so for biden if he is not able to call alyce again all of those anti- trump voters that is a problem. that means trump makes it a lot easier for trump to squeeze in. so far it's only a small percentage that moves that could change the entire election.

the cofounder and ceo of no labels were a piece in response to this the los angeles times saying them and republicans are meeting to subvert the third-party option for the do not care voters want for the two party sadly to quash our effort then to compete against it for they do not seem to realize that by trying to suppress our movement they are showing the country exactly why we are needed. >> i concur with mario on this. it's not bad to have multiple candidates. if you are in the pure political analysis donald trump has enormous support enormous opposition. i think we make fun of biden running the campaign in his basement he knew the opposition was enough to propel him in 2020 if that opposition is fractured with the multiple candidates certainly that's a bigger impact. >> and it keeps coming up is joe manchin he spent a headache on some big issues. i asked him a couple weeks ago he will not take it off the table would rule out the potential. it won't taste him he won't

seize not absolutely not doing it. >> the people i've talked to with response the potential third party they say who is the candidate? that would determine potential who it would cut into more. if you look at usa today poll that came out last week there's a lot of american saying they could potentially support a third-party candidate and in unspecified third party candidate. nearly a quarter of americans. that would significantly make a difference in the election potential depending upon who it was. so for another headache they have to navigate is a talk about change in the dnc calendar for this boats pushback state laws all kinds of conflicts rules committee met this week seems like they gave an extension they make some concrete decisions about this but xes notes this could be tricky. democrats in iowa and new hampshire could defied biden and move ahead with their contest. if he's not going to be on the ballot this is what happens with that sets up a scenario robert f kennedy jr. another longshot democrat could win those states

and embarrass the president but we know the beginning of this primary caucus rush perception feeds reality. you lose and feel my sort of questions. >> i think the democrats as well as the republicans know this is an incredibly important electi election. while there is always the jockeying of who gets to be first i think people will take seriously this is a serious contest party should vote for the person you want to be president and who you can be a good president. i think the desire to have south carolina or estate that's more reflective in terms of particular racial makeup of the area nine states as a whole is something that's good to keep in mind. as we are going to the primary process think about the overall will of the people in support for that thriving multiracial democracy. shannon: how do you think this plays out the folks in new hampshire like we are not moving. the folks in iowa are like we are not moving.

some of them have state laws and play they cannot sail yes so we agreed dnc were to move everything. >> is an irony this much of the democrats they were going to show and i will south carolina because the racial makeup, iowa propel the first african-american president of extrusive victory in iowa for barack obama the problems the presidency. it isn't insult to the folks and i the democrat party is chosen to do. that's their business i let them handle it. >> the fact of the matter is joe biden set this order he did not want iowa, new hampshire to go earlier. quick south carolina saved his campaign regrets essentially are facing here is a choice for the democratic party as to whether or not they're going to use strip new hampshire of its delegates are allowed joe biden to appear on the ballot if they want to avoid a worst-case here like you are describing. they've kicked it down the road into september 1 not formally made a decision yet whether they want to love the things happen. they're just kicking the

decision on the right is what they're doing. shannon: you you shaking your head south carolina change everything for president biden. >> propelled his candidacy, resuscitated his campaign. the problem is again but the other two states as there's not a lot of enthusiasm for the president's reelection campaign right now. the last thing you want to do is have them bloodied going into the general election. >> 's continued pulling out there are concerns within the party by his age, his ability. elizabeth, what could he do to better meet that? people of always said joe is going to be joe. how does he give, even his own part of the after the four years? see policy achievements have been extremely notable. even that they may be dumped all the credit they should. i think as my concern getting jackson on the bench is a huge milestone. i think more performances like he gave his life state of the

annual show he's vigorous dedicated to progressive ideals on policies. before elizabethan i are going to watch and close the big decisions in the supreme court to any day now panel thank you very much. cap next my conversation about fatherhood with a pastor who has a unique take. shares about his own data by the way helped create a very famous logo you're going to recognize. his words of encouragement for all of us on this father's day, next ah, these bills are crazy. she

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it's on the b want to wish all the dads out there happy father's day. i sent out lead pastor louis earlier this week for the discussion of challenges and

joys of fatherhood. in his newest book seeing god as a perfect father, seeing you as love, pursued and secure. pastor good to have you on the show. let me start with this. you have said there is a fatherhood crisis. what do you mean? >> well, we look around at the statistics and our current state in america. one and four kids are growing up in a home without a father present in that home. that does not count the homes where there is a physical data in the building. maybe that that is antagonistic or abusive, or not plugged into the life of the kids. think about that. and every four kids is growing up without the presence, the covering of, the shannon: want to read something you wrote in the book. years ago after speaking to the a group of college students, a young man told me if god is like my dad, i'm not interested. how do you speak to those folks who don't have a great

relationship with their dad, and you're asking me to think of god as my heavenly father. >> god is not a bigger version of our earthly dad, he's the perfection of our earthly father. and so no matter what was broken in our relationship with our earthly dad, we can have a new relationship with a perfect father who loves us as sons and daughters. shannon: so how does that then transa late to our earthly relationships as far as a dads who wanted to be better at being a dad. >> well, i think for every dad out there and for every mom it begins by being a son or a daughter. of course you want to be a good dad, you want to be a good mom, you want to be a good leader, you want to raise a good family, but how to do you doha? you have to start by receiving the fact that god can give you what you need as a loved son or loved daughter to help you be the leader of your family, to help you raise your kids in a way that god wants them to live. shannon: how did your dad make

an impact, make a difference in your life? >> my dad left a great mark on me. he wasn't a spiritual guy, my dad, necessarily. he wasn't like the spiritual mentor to me, but he was a creative genius, he was amazing with language. he cared for people and was so generous, and he was a one of a kind, original, unique guy. and a lot of his marks are left all around the city of atlanta where i live. the chick-fil-a logos, a low to go my dad did in 1964. there are a lot of his imprints all around my life and on my life. anything i've done creative or anything i've try to do innovative is all because i watched this genius all my life, and i learned from him every single day of my life. shannon: and you can hear my extended conversation on my podcast this week, living the bream, it is brand new this morning. check it out wherever you download your podcasts. you can also download "fox news sunday" podcast and set your dvr

for your local fox station. that is it for us today. thank you for joining us. happy father's day to everyone celebrating today. i'm shannon bream. have a great week, or we'll see you back here next "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ see you next weekend. ♪ ♪ mark: hello america i'm mark levin this is "life, liberty and levin." we have a lot of ground to cover, thank you for being here this is important. first tell you about this prosecutor jack smith, i call jack the ripper smith. he is a very bad guy. in my opinion, quickly as