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on board. one pilot. four tourists. the company leading this tour is ocean gate expeditions. type of sub they used is pictured here. the dive takes customers to see the wreck which sits 12,500 feet beneath the ocean's surface. they're stuck down there somewhere. the company has yet to comment on the report or confirm whether one of their subs is currently missing. the coast guard, though, telling us that the rescue operation is way off the coast of newfoundland, canada 900 miles east of cape cod, massachusetts. let's pause there because oceangate has issued a statement in the last few minutes saying they are able to do whatever they can. they do confirm that this is actually their sub. and they will keep us updated as best they can. we're following them on their social media platforms but also now in contact with them and we'll let you know how this is going. a couple of things have changed about the story. we weren't sure if they were supposed to be down there for

days or hours. we now know what that mission really was like. but what we also don't know is how long can they stay down there? what's on board this sub? if it comes to days, is it going to be ok? we'll ask the company and follow the story and bring you everything that we learned. we're on it. thank you. "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today with my co-host kayleigh mcenany and emily compagno. also, joining us, kennedy. host of "the kennedy saves the world" podcast. bill hemmer, co-anchor of "america's newsroom". good to see you. >> good afternoon, ladies. >> harris: you got this started. the titanic. >> bill: we saw this about 10:30 eastern time, hour and a half ago. we were hoping for the best. i learn there could be up to five people inside this submarine. a little difficult to tell based on the size. >> harris: crew one, four tourists. >> bill: that's what we understand right now. the titanic has captured the imaginations of millions of

people around the world after it sank in 1912. if you go to belfast, northern ireland, they opened a museum there 11 years ago, 2012, it is one of the most visited places in the entire country. get upwards of 800,000 to 900,000 tourists a year. and it's got accolades from all over the world for how they did it. my point being the titanic has captured the imagination of a lot of people for a long time. however, this story captures a different kind of imagination. and that is the fear that you would have if you are below water up to two, 2.5 miles below the surface and what sort of equipment you have on board to help yourself. elon musk runs a satellite company called starlink. and he's using that to help the ukrainians communicate during this war. this company oceangate, out of the state of washington, also uses starlink as its communication source. what happened there? why the disconnect?

we don't know. but douglas kennedy did a story a bit earlier today with dana and me on this virtual reality, you know, you put the headset on and they can use that, they believe, to help people overcome their phobias. now, i don't know what your phobias are, but i always tend to fear snakes for whatever crazy reason. but imagine the phobia you would have of being underwater. it is really dark two miles below the surface. >> harris: of course it is. >> bill: imagine the phobia you would have not to have the proper oxygen and the ability to ascend when you want to. >> harris: yeah, i'm asking our team. we had it on "the focus" and i want to read you this statement. we knew that oceangate had spoken. we didn't have it off the top of this. as soon as they get it to me, i'll share it with you. there it is. we are exploring and mobilizing all options to bring the crew back safely. our entire focus is on the crew members in the submersible and their families, hoping for a

little bit more than that. and hoping to answer some of the questions that bill just asked. this would be hell underwater. i mean, 12,500 feet? that's two miles, more than more than two miles, as bill just said. and we don't know, you know, the capacity, the ability of this sub. we don't know what kind of lines are going in and out. what's it tethered to? is there something that could have pulled on it? how in the world do you lose this? you mentioned elon musk. is he not at the heart of this briefing? >> bill: seems like it. when you see what he's developed for practical purposes for what he's given so many like this. >> harris: yeah. i mean, well, and the fascination with titanic doesn't end and so what's so incredible about this, it almost mimicks the movie. you go down there and actually get to see what the movie "titanic" had to reconstruct, if you will. you're seeing the real thing. >> emily: this is so terrifying

for those people on board. my heart and prayers goes out to them and their families right now. what a terrifying story and terrifying experience. i note last year, it was reported one such excursion run by oceangate costs upwards of $250,000 for a group of guests to take that submersible the 2.4 miles down to where that infamous titanic wreckage lays. and, you know, notably and cbs sunday morning piece six years ago as a submersible titan was under construction. the oceangate founder said by the time we're done testing it, we believe it's pretty much invulnerable. the reporter chip reed noted at the time, that's pretty much what they said about the titanic. it is my understanding that there is a safety feature of this submersible which means that in the event of an emergency, it will automatically float up to the surface. obviously, as details emerge, as the developments of the

investigation are under way, we will learn whether that was implemented or what's happening with that. but i just think at this moment, how terrifying to your point that that is for them and their families. >> harris: absolutely. we want to know the information so we can tell people but we want those families to know the information much sooner than we do dreblth directly from the company. it's good that the company has taken responsibility and come forth and said this was ours. looking at their twitter page now and they don't update that often. this was april 21st, as they were just embarking on their season, i would imagine. we've been working hard to get ready for our 2023 titanic expedition that begins next month so it started in may. we moved oceangate sub titan as emily told us to the launch at the marine institute for final preparations. launch has brand new facilities with everything we need to prepare for expedition! look, this was a big deal. it costs a lot of money to get on board.

kennedy, your thoughts? >> kennedy: a lot of the technology was actually developed by james cameron for titanic. so they could go down and get those shots so we could see and experience titanic like we had never imagined we would be able to because it rests so deep beneath the ocean's surface. you know, but you and bill touched on the fears that people have and claustrophobia and being in a small space like that. that's one of the biggest fears and that cbs news reporter that emily was referencing said that the inside is about the size of a minivan. so you've got five people in an area that small for an expedition that was supposed to be six hours and he even noted that a lot of the equipment there was after market and kind of mcgyvered. they had a video game controller that was steering the vessel. let's hope they've had technological upgrades since then. >> emily: to quote him exactly because i have that here.

as he got situated in the vessel that he showed it was the size of the minivan. he couldn't help but notice many pieces of the sub seemed improvised, the word that he used with off-the-shelf components including that video game controller, like you mentioned. apparently, the titan is the only five person sub vessel able to go to this depth, 2.4 miles which is half the depth of the ocean and you have to wonder if this is a rescue mission. this is the only five-person vessel able to go this depth. what kind of vessels are they using in a rescue mission? i certainly hope there's more than one. because it's a very scary prospect. >> harris: i can think of only one other thing and that's the military. yeah. >> bill: the coast guard out of boston did respond and whether or not they're having any luck, we don't know. but they were -- they were one of the first to get the call. >> harris: absolutely. we pray for those people down below. we wonder if any of them right now, as kennedy was talking about, are able to keep each other calm in this moment. that's a long way underwater. we'll stay on it.

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>> media seems to be deflecting concerns about the president's age even after some new and bizarre biden moments this weekend. listen to the way he wrapped up the connecticut speech on gun control friday. >> i'm going to stand in front of each section. i really mean and then if you can see the camera, they can see you. and it's the least consequential part of this whole meeting for you. i promise. all right? god save the queen, man.

>> it's unclear to which queen biden was referring. that head scratching comment followed by the president's awkward joke about eva longoria at the white house screening of the movie. >> your debut as a director adding another accomplishment to an inalready incredible, incredible career. we've known each other a long time. she was 17. i was 40. thank you. >> there were these cringy moments this past weekend. >> we have plans to build a railroad from the pacific all the way across the indian ocean. the build back biden, build back better. don't make me a dogface lying pony soldier. might add if i didn't, i'd be sleeping alone. where we going? e>> emily: i hope your weekend went better than his.

awkward moments like his may explain why a recent poll found that 2/3 of voters think that biden is too old for a second term. the media covering for him. biden's quirky comments are seen as to portray him being in mental decline. he has been using unique phrases for years and some of his aides aren't exactly sure what he means. meanwhile, others in the liberal media are gushing about the president's busy campaign schedule. >> get this number. 20 fundraisers on the books between now and the end of june involving the president, the vice president and other top cabinet officials involved with this operation as well. so big effort under way here. >> 20 between now and the end of june? that averages to more than one a day. that's a lot! >> emily: that's a lot. kennedy, quirky or the decline of an 80-year-old man? >> kennedy: it doesn't even have to do with his age. it's his mental capacity.

i know a lot of 80 and 90-year-olds that can run circles around the president. i would say running for office, i look at these and i'm wondering how bad does it have to get for people to admit this is a problem? this is a major problem because also, we aren't getting the straight story from his medical team. they're incredibly vague and i would still, i've been asking for this since day one. remember how hard they went after former president trump's doctor? why don't we have same level of enthusiasm and skepticism for our current president? we need to know so much more and it shouldn't be good enough for people that this is north korean level propaganda where people go yes, kim jong un is skinny and stable. back to you, chuck. >> emily: you're right. to your point, president trump seems to be way more with it and the same age range as biden. but, you know, bill, i think republicans need to take a note of caution here because there is a north carolina focus group and nine of the 11 said look, you know, we see the decline of president biden. however, we would still vote for

him. and biden is running a pretty strategic campaign. going into philadelphia where he shaved off some numbers from republicans, small numbers in these key areas that flipped the state. >> bill: that makes a big difference. there's a lot to unpack here. cut me off when you're ready with regard to the age thing. phila philadelphia inquirer had a quote, a union member at the event was 42 years old. he said age is not a concern for him because his age brings experience. i don't know how many democrats are thinking that way but this democrat is. there's a reason why two weeks ago, we were reporting that he was going to rely on surrogates and celebrities and social media to push the campaign out there because he wasn't going to be on the road a lot by just the clips you showed right there showed why there would be trepidation to do a lot of campaigning. let's see how much they commit. at that event over the weekend, he said they, republicans, they're coming for your jobs. they're coming for your future. they're coming for the future we're building for your kids and

your grandkids. so that's a bit of a fear message, i think, that you're going to hear throughout the campaign. now, with regard to pennsylvania, he beat donald trump by 1.2 percentage points. won the overall state by 80,000 votes. but in philadelphia alone, he took nearly 500,000 raw votes. if you're a democrat, running in pennsylvania, that's where you win. he's going to be in philadelphia a lot this campaign time. >> emily: yeah, he is. these big counties, he pulled just enough votes to win the state. >> bill: i say he'll be in philly a lot. that's where you go to get votes but it's very close. wilmington, delaware. >> harris: i was going to say that. he can get on the bike if he can stay on it and get on there. i want to add to what bill was saying about, you know, all these events and what they look like and that sort of thing and why he might go there.

the news anchor from the other network said 20, that's almost one a day! well, they're on average 30 days in a month. we haven't seen him do that many days anywhere except for delaware. i mean, seriously, he spends, what, a third of his time at home in one of his two houses. so i'm just wondering where does he get to the point where he actually talks to the public? because right now, he's kind of speaking at everybody. but he's got to do some roundtables. he's got to do this. when you go to iowa and if you're being challenged inside your party, i don't know, gavin looks a little too lovie dovy, maybe he comes for it. i don't know. kennedy -- bobby kennedy jr. is coming for him and people doubt, whatever, he's got 20% of support right now. but when does he start to talk with the american people? and can he handle a roundtable of six to 12 people rather than talking to the masses in philadelphia? >> bill: we'll see if it happens. >> that's the key distinction

here. he has four in san francisco. one stop fundraisers. i've been to fundraisers with the president. you swoop in. it's a pretty small crowd. you go. the president speaks. you're out. with trump holding a rally and interacting with voters, roundtable there's a categorical difference. >> the difference i see on one side of the aisle, you have a figurehead. you have a vessel that has long since declined from anything resembling an actual commander in chief and on the other side of the aisle, you have potential leaders who are campaigning on the strength of their own two feet with the clear vision for the party and how they would lead it. there is no saying, no even implication that the army of surrogates are actually talking mouths for the current president. no, no, no. they're all just party affiliates. and that's why, in part, their shotgun message is so different from each other which the biden administration has said

essentially that's ok. and we know a little bit of that diverse sit -- diversity is going to happen. that's why the democrats to their unfortunate strength have coalesced around. we know it's for the party. it's not for him. we knew there's only mush in between the ears. i'm sick of my commander and chief being an absolute dearth of leadership and dearth of any type of confidence and i'm pretty sure a lot of other people are, too. quick point about the eva longoria grab, where is the feminists? where is the woke left who reminded us after four women came forward while president biden was then campaigning which induced him to release a video saying i will be more mindful and more respectful of women's personal space. i remember that video from then candidate joe biden. it appears he has lost what he campaigned on. and now as president has reverted back to a dirty old man. >> emily: kennedy, last one for you. there's a hoodie wearing john fetterman standing next to

president biden. and apparently, these two are going to rebuild i-95 together. i want to see if kennedy has some hope. >> i would just -- really like to, you know, the 95, 95, 95, you know, you know, obviously, you know, you're pretty much preoccupied with 95. and i certainly am, too, and we know it's a major artery. >> to commit to work with the governor and the delegation to make sure we get this fixed quick, fast as well, too. this is a president that is committed to structure and on top of that, the jewel kind of law of the infraction bill. >> he was trying to say infrastructure.

he said infraction. he said a few things, i feel -- i actually feel very badly for the senator from pennsylvania. i don't think that he should be subjected to these public events and the scrutiny that comes along with it. it's sad he's not up to the job, you know. i don't say that from a place of politics. i say that from a compassionate humane place where we are subjecting people who should be cared for elsewhere and not in the harsh glare of the spotlight that is only making them worse. and, you know, i'm not only talking about the president but also the senator from pennsylvania. >> emily: i feel badly for both of them and compassion for both of them. at the end of the day, it's about constituents and about the american people and about getting the job done for them. and i don't know if these two are up for it. i'll let you decide. coming up, the media launches another sexist attack on casey desantis. this time going after her marriage. that's next.

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for what they did. >> no stranger to criticism in the mainstream media. the daily beast recently called her a "wal-mart melania and they drew a criticism between shakespeare and macbeth. they are joining the chorus of critics blasting the first lady of florida over her marriage to governor ron desantis. the piece is called tracing the power of casey desantis. here's a quote. as ron desantis goes for the presidency, his wife's rule is endless. why does that inspire so much fear? her rise in tv and insular marriage tell the story. defenders of casey desantis are pointing out a double standard. for example, mary katherine hamm

tweeting it is very inspiring and empowering for a woman to be in an expansive and atypical role as long as she's a democrat. and not in one of those weird insular marriages with only two people in it, you know, the clintons got it right. kayleigh, just when i think the mainstream media can't get any lower, they seem to find a new layer of fresh hell. it is disgusting what they are doing to the first lady of florida. >> kayleigh: it is. she's unstoppable. she's smart, she's strong, she's accomplished and she's conservative so she will be attacked. i read every word of this piece last night, it was north of 5,000 words and the themes were this. they love to be around each other. ron desantis and casey desantis. they're private. when he was in congress, he would leave at, if the vote was on noon, he'd be on the way to the airport to 12:06 because he wanted to see his family. sounds like a great marriage to me. the other complaint about ron desantis was this. there were three things he liked to talk about with his staff.

the constitution, baseball and golf. i mean, ok, why is this bad? so my takeaway from this is this is the most flattering hit piece i have ever read. and this is the worse thing they have on the desantises, wow, what a great family. role model family, i would say. >> emily: problem is, kennedy, headline travels 100 times around the world before the point makes a landing on the woke left. to her point, it's difficult in this business and we value and cherish our privacy, whatever we can get of it. for them to damn the first lady of florida for being in a committed healthy private marriage is shocking! >> kennedy: and i don't -- i couldn't understand the outrage. they talk to each other and they really like each other. how dare they! it's like the comparisons to lady macbeth if you did that about a democrat were in "the new york post" or national review, they would be called sexist. that would be considered a trope. she has to look at that and be like we must be very powerful.

they're coming at us and using any adjective and surprised they haven't flung at it her yet. all these comparisons if i were casey desantis, you know i would say? bring it! >> harris: first of all, i want to say this about casey desantis. she has done this more than once. this is not her first rodeo. her husband is one of the most popular governors in history. and she did that while raising children with him that are 6, 5 and 3 now which means they're really tiny still and can you imagine? layer that on with something that we spoke about on this couch and that was her battle with breast cancer. and he would talk about that. but when i saw him recently, have to tell an audience, i say have to. you're looking at love. this is what love does. love goes before the audience and says i don't understand why you can't appreciate the fact that i love my wife. like he's having to defend his marriage out on the trail because they're partners out there. they don't just stand next to each other. they stand back to back so they

hold each other up. those are young kids. this isn't easy. tell you what the flip is. these kids are out on the last campaign trail. anybody you can name? oh, hunter biden. i mean, look at the difference between what's on the right and not just this family. they're eviscerating any conservatives they can see on the trail right now. you've got one whose children is very young, both under 3. this is something oppositional to the narrative right now that the left would want you to know. that the values, family values are on full display. and if they can't mimic them, which apparently with the bidens they're not capable of doing that, with nine of them now under investigation for potentially taking money that was gained through foreign business dealings. they'll just tear down what doesn't look like what they are. >> bill: her e.q. seems to be surprisingly high, if you remember when hurricane ian hit florida about a year ago, she came on "fox & friends" and there was a question, what do you need?

we don't need anything. we're strong enough. we can manage this. we can take care of this. just don't forget about us. just pray for us. we'll get through this. i thought that answer was pretty spot on. and i think that was the first time that we had an opportunity to see her under stress in a public scenario and express herself the way she did i thought was very effective. >> emily: i appreciate the point she was making which is one of resilience. >> bill: you remember that? it really catches your ear. she was not tone deaf to the concerns of the people in florida or the people watching at home. >> emily: i think there's a way that she imparted which was essentially we are all together, do not forget us but also, we're good. we're strong. we are strong on our own. exactly. she's definitely got this. casey, we see you as an inspiration, role model and don't forget that hunter is on the campaign trail. but missing a grandchild, though, of course. all right, more "outnumbered" next.

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>> if you're driving a car and a cyclist gets in your way, don't get mad because according to a bizarre new op ed in the san francisco chronicle, that hatred is practically the same as racism. the piece is titled "hate is dangerous including against bicyclists" takes issues with drivers that don't like to drive alongside cyclists. column argues that cyclists pushing for equal status the road as drivers is similar to the fight for women's suffrage and warns readers that the frustrations they feel sharing the road with bikers stem from the same place that racial

hatred and other stigmas come from. "ultimately, hate of bicyclists comes from the same place as racism, sexism, homophoba and transphobia a desire to cling to it over others." there are inevitably more conflicts with those who continually and mindlessly assert that "streets are for cars" but just as gay people are no longer willing to stay in the closet, nor women in the kitchen, bicyclists are no longer willing to settle for crumbs in terms of use of our public roadways. kennedy, i have really big eyes. but my eyes are not big enough for the eye roll that i have in my head for this just -- i don't know the word for it. it's a joke. waste of space. thank you. >> kennedy: the dumbest hot take i have ever seen about cycling ever. ever. >> emily: that's saying

something. >> kennedy: i know cycling is an issue for motorists. as a cyclist, i cannot stand cars. when i'm driving my car, i cannot stand cyclists. so this undermines her argument because as transphobic, you're not going to become a transperson. as a racist, you're not going to become a person of color. but as a motorist, you will become a cyclist. therefore, you can see the world through both lenses and yes, we despise each other when we are in the opposite vehicle. and i have to say this woman is writing from the san francisco chronicle, like i'm 70 and i just started cycling. like well, you're not good at it. you're obviously frustrating drivers. no offense to everyone in the world, san francisco has the worst drivers in the country. they are a menace to cyclists or anyone else. >> harris: right now, they're trying not to get carjacked. >> emily: so here's the thing. >> bill: ironic they're talking about racism on a bicycle on juneteenth. go ahead, emily, what were you saying? >> emily: here's the thing, to have that real estate in an op

ed of the san francisco chronicle can which is one of the most beautiful cities in the world that is absolutely imploded and crumbled to a festering toxic tumor, that's what's given real estate. i argue essentially if your argument says it's about racism, it means you'll be given a platform in a widely coveted, again, spot of real estate that that city could use a lot more hot takes on than that. >> bill: my feeling is a bicycle has been empowered in a lot of great american cities because of the access they've been given. kennedy, i imagine if you hate bicyclist when's you're driving, and you hate motorists when you're bicycling, then when you're driving, you hate other motorists and when you're bicycling, you're trying to beat the other cyclists in the lane. you agree with all that, right? my big issue, it's a safety issue, that's all. new york city is a dangerous town to begin with, come on. it's dangerous to walk in the city much less ride a bike. who knows what the real numbers are because they've never

reported them. >> emily: but the media gives the voice to some fringe, hot ridiculous take. >> harris: poor ruth malone. i mean, come on! you know what? i think about this, though, and i wonder where ruth is really comfortable. i mean, is she -- would she be better off if she didn't have the right to vote? she compared this to women's suffrage. would she be better off if we didn't have a civil rights movement in the 1960s. you're right, irony of the argument is its on juneteenth. i don't understand what makes ruth malone happy. can we get to that spot so she doesn't have to keep riding. >> emily: apparently, my voice doesn't matter because i like to be in the kitchen. we've already expunged that according to the media that put that. >> kayleigh: i hope that pete might become the cyclist spokesperson. he took his bike out after he pulled into the white house and did that stunt riding in. ruth, reach out to pete. he may take you up on it. and we'd get some good material

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wreckage in the titanic has gone missing. we'll talk to the u.s. coast guard commander heading up the frantic search to find that sub. former special counsel john durham attends his first congressional hearings on his report into the russia investigation. what do those hearings hold? and an 18-year-old woman is suing the hospital that gave her a double mastectomy at the age of 13 when she was experiencing gender dysphoria. her attorney says she's suing on stop other children from going through what she did. he is the latest republican to throw his hat in the presidential ring. miami mayor joins us. i'm john roberts. sandra and i will see you for that and more at the top of the hour. it's "america reports." >> harris: as millions of us celebrated father's day yesterday, npr got some attention for highlighting a transgender man who gave birth to two daughters. in a piece celebrating voices of fathers from different backgrounds, npr spoke with a military dad and an immigrant refugee and that 37-year-old

transgender man. he experienced a surprise pregnancy after he stopped taking hormones for a double mastectomy. here's a bit of the interview. >> those of us who identify more on the masculine spectrum because we identify as such does not take away our desire to have kids. and if we have the body parts to do so, why not? a lot of people think that because we gave birth that we suddenly become mothers. and so people always shocked when they hear my child calling me daddy. my children calling me daddy. and they are worried that our kids are going to be confused in some way, shape or form. and that's just simply not true. >> harris: all right, kayleigh, so a woman becoming a man takes hormones, gets the double mastectomy and stops taking the hormones and gets pregnant because she's a uterus.

>> kayleigh: my favorite thing to do is look through some of these publications and all of a sudden, suddenly in society we're at this place where cory bush, she says birthing people, that's her preferred term atlantic they go with birthing people. love npr, they go with menstruating people. that's a.o.c.'s favorite, and the cdc go with pregnant people. this all began two or three years ago. we have to erase woman, we have to erase female and erase x chromosomes. here we are. >> harris: i haven't heard the menstruating people. if somebody doesn't know your name. >> kayleigh: please call me that. >> harris: my goodness. ok, you are in such shock when this was played. >> bill: i don't even qualify for this conversation. >> harris: yes, you do! >> bill: all of it confuses me, i'm sorry. it takes me a minute, you know, during the commercial. >> harris: i know. >> bill: i mean, she said just because we identify as such does not take away our desire to have kids. if we have the body parts to do so, why not?

to which i would just ask why do it? because i don't know. i'm -- i don't know this individual. plead the fifth. >> harris: i don't know that you can plead the fifth on a talk show. ok. >> bill: it's confounding to me. and i'm sorry, i don't know how to work my way through it. >> harris: you know what? you're right where so many millions of people are right now. they don't want to get labelled or canceled. so they just don't want to use any words. >> bill: they're like me and they shut up. >> harris: or just learn people's first names. and then you don't get into the name calling and all of that. and by the way, you brought up a big point, kennedy, this started 36 months ago or so. that means there's another generation of it coming. and so we're going to have to continue to go through this unless what? >> kennedy: no, man, i'm thinking about all the songs that have to be changed. like -- ♪ you my brown eyed menstruating person ♪

>> harris: no! >> kennedy: ♪ i'm a menstruating person hear me roar ♪ like all the -- ♪ i am a menstruating person in love ♪ >> bill: a karaoke night. >> harris: karaoke night will be off beat if they had to add that many words. emily? >> emily: yes, i, you know, how earnestly we were at commercial break dissecting this and trying to make sure we understood exactly what we were hearing or seeing represents a lot of americans out there who are earnestly trying to be respectful and along the way are probably shamed, canceled and, you know, shut up for it because we're trying hard but maybe we don't understand it. and dare to raise the question, where are just women? i have to also put out an anecdote to this is the troopers united foundation the charity arm of the new jersey state police had the most beautiful instagram post. if you want to see the most beautiful father's day quote, go to troopers united foundation and see the photos of those fathers with their children. >> harris: ok. all right.

it puts us in a point that if you did not pass biology or science, and you have children, kennedy, and you and i have teenagers and you're having these conversations, they are tough conversations because everybody wants to do what emily is saying. do the respectful thing. >> kennedy: i wonder if my dad could have had a baby, if he would have done it. that would have been very confusing for me. i miss you, dad. >> harris: we'll go now. more "outnumbered" in a moment. from big cities, to small towns, and on main streets across the us, you'll find pnc bank. helping businesses both large and small, communities and the people who live and work there grow and thrive. we're proud to call these places home too. they're where we put down roots,

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arizona, also walks in pageants. she won miss arizona u.s.a. and will represent her state in the miss u.s.a. competition later this year. she is hoping her new platform will make a difference helping to bridge the gap between law enforcement and the public. i think this is great, emily. >> i love this so much. i think she is absolutely incredible. she started a campaign called yes, she can, that she teaches women self-defense, situational awareness, importance to ensure women never feel stuck in a situation she can't get out of and they can do anything and be anything. i see this two-fold. she's representing as a police officer they are members of the community, they are all amazing human, and they serve day in and day out in uniform and out and also proving these pageants are ones of substance, contrary to criticism and a perfect example of someone that brings to the table so much. i can't wait for her to win miss u.s.a. >> she was on newsroom with us

on friday and she said i'm a pageant queen and police officer and successful at both. >> doing pageants 11 years, she tried six times for miss arizona u.s. a., she got it. >> you talk about the confidence to go after criminals, she would have started with the competitions, different expectations for the confidence but comes from the same space. she can handle anything and no doubt bit, always criticism. wondering what the feminists will say next, to do this coupled with the lane of being a police officer. but i have to tell you, as often as we cover the stories about defund, we need those with confidence and leadership skills. >> nothing hotter than a woman who wears a crown and a badge. you go, officer. >> and a gun. >> and rides a bicycle. >> exactly. the whole package.

>> that's right. be sure to tune in tonight, i'm hosting fox news tonight this week at 8:00 p.m. eastern. we have a big show tonight. vivek ramaswamy, we have a presidential candidate on all three of the next three nights, i hope jimmy brings his sparkly suit. thanks to everyone. don't forget to dvr the show. here is "america reports." >> sandra: begin with an urgent search-and-rescue operation underway to find a tourist submersible that has gone missing exploring the famous wreck of the titanic. it is an ongoing and developing situation at this hour. we are watching it. great to be with you, john. >> john: i wish we were not starting the week out this way, john roberts in washington. this is "america reports." five people on board the missing vessel, began the