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platform that he likes. he is running for senate and helps him raise small dollars from democrats. >> it is an amazing moment in history when you have what's going on on the floor and schiff attacking in committee. >> bill: thank you for hanging out with us and see what more we get. >> dana:s here is fay "the faulkner focus." >> harris: reports of something banging from deep in the north atlantic ocean giving a sliver of hope at this hour. running out of time and oxygen, a multi-pronged mission to find and rescue the missing tourist vessel. the sub titan vanished in waters the 12,500 feet deep. five people including tourists aboard went down to get a special look at the remnants of the titanic ocean liner that
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sank. scientists saying they have fewer than 24 hours now before they won't be able to breathe inside that sub. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." the mission to save titan is growing. u.s. and canadian crews are sweeping an area larger than the state of maryland. 12,000 square miles. the titan sub is only 22 feet long. >> getting equipment on scene is a top priority. i can't give you an exact timeline when it will happen. there is a full-court press effort to get equipment on scene as quickly as we can. >> harris: let's look at the picture which shows the astonishing depth that the sub may have reached. again 12,500 feet is where the titanic rests that they went down to see. compare that with twice the size of the depth of the grand
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canyon. the water pressure there is nearly 400 times greater than that on the surface raising new questions now about rescuers' ability to reach the vessel even when and if they find it. a lot coming out in reports about the sub's owner oceangate at this hour including a whistleblower complaint to the occupational safety and health administration or osha over serious safety issues in 2018. ocean gate fired that whistleblower engineer who worked there. separately from him. dozens of maritime experts wrote to oceangate with the same concerns. we reached out to oceangate and told us they aren't commenting at this time former navy
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psychologist describes what they are feeling down there. >> certainly there is sheer panic where their heart is racing and they are having trouble breathing or feeling like they can't catch their breath or they feel like they are going to lose their mind. and certainly in a cramped space that is dark like this situation, that can be exponentially worse. >> harris: molly line reporting from us from boston. a u.s. coast guard update expected soon. >> this group of industry leaders are talking about sending a letter to the ceo and founder of oceangate in 2018 expressing concerns about the development of this titan sub and the planned titanic expeditions writing our apprehension is the current experimental approach could result in negative outcomes from minor to catastrophic with serious consequences for
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everyone in the industry. oceangate began taking paying customers in 2021 and rush is now among those missing on board the titan. a canadian aircraft detected underwater noises in the search area. efforts to discover the origin have yielded negative results for the u.s. coast guard. navy experts are analyzing the data and remotely operated vehicle is moved to the spot. the coast guard not clarifying much about those sounds. they aren't saying if they could be tapping from inside the submarine or pinging from the craft. per the u.s. coast guard a multiple of vessels are vfld in the search. they released a picture of one. the first picture we got from the coast guard of the search scene. a bahamian research vessel and three more arriving on scene with one having sonar capabilities and part of the
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search patterns being conducted alongside others. 10,000 square miles have been searched. the port of st. john's in canada really the vessel departed carrying it is a pub being used to bring a lot of the assets out to sea. canadian coast guard vessels are seen leaving. the crew there on site a massive rescue vessel the arctic horizon has left for the search area carrying gear recently flown into canada by the u.s. air force. they've been trying to pull together all the expertise, the equipment needed for a potential deep water rescue including calling on help from the u.s. navy. based on the estimates provided by the makers of the submarine the five people on board the sub could run out of life support as early as tomorrow. a huge effort still underway. you mentioned the update. we expect it from the u.s. coast guard at 1:00 or 1:30 this
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afternoon. >> harris: the red flags existing, the whistleblower i told our audience about, we'll get into more of that. thank you. we'll go into more of that about the submersible's safety and hough it could be retrieved if found. how difficult that part of the story. in "focus" marine veteran dakota wood, senior research fellow at the heritage foundation and former strategist for the marine special operations command. a great guest to have on this morning. we'll go to breaking news now. you are looking, you recognize her. the ncaa college swimming star riley gaines who has been very vocal in fighting for the right for actual women to compete against actual women in women's sports and not biological males. right now the senate judiciary committee is hearing her testimony. this is about lgbtq rights. let's watch. >> of course not.
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who would ever want to be responsible in a potential death. that's the emotional blackmail that is plaguing this country especially in universities. >> last question and i will ask this and give you a chance to respond. i'm done with this, mr. chairman. something that lia thomas said recently publicly. she said this publicly. they are using the guise of feminism. they meaning you, news re using the guise of feminism to push trance phobic beliefs. you advocating for women's rights is a cover for trans phobia, do you want to respond to that? >> feminism is not a fluid term. the original and meaning of what it means to be a feminist is to uphold, respect, honor, embrace and celebrate women on our own phis call uniqueness. the term has not changed and what this really is, is a male man saying what it is to be feminist which is ironic and
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something we've seen before. >> thank you, senator hawley. i would just like to add something for the record. there is no evidence that trans gender athletes are an issue in certain levels of sports. no transgender female athlete has won an olympic measure. they have competed since 2004. one non-binary athlete assigned female at birth found a medal in 2021. >> thank you, mr. chair. i want to turn to you, ms. robinson and talk about something that i think is important given my background as a prosecutor that we don't forget. that is the attacks that we've seen, unprecedented number of
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attacks on lgbtq americans. we know that lgbtq americans face violent attacks and there is hateful rhetoric dehumanizing them and the f.b.i. found this year crimes motivated with bias against lgbtq people is 208% of hate crimes. when i was a prosecutor i was -- i never had been in a member of the white house president clinton was president and he introduced the hate crimes bill and i got to meet the family of matthew shepard. they were there along with police who investigated the case. a moment for america flipped how people thought about things and he was just pursuing his own life and ended up as the
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investigators looking like a scarecrow someone thought pinned to a fence. talk about what trends you are seeing in lgbtq hate crimes and why you answer that first. >> reality is scary. we are sitting here seven years since the pulse nightclub shooting where 49 lives were stolen and over seven months from the shooting at a club. the uptick of violence is real. one in five of every hate crime is by bias. >> harris: we have covered a lot of what they are talking about in terms of crimes against that community. but the question that is of issue today that they were talking about with the star athlete riley gaines is biological men in women's sports. matt whittaker is a former acting u.s. attorney general and here for a host of reasons. we'll start with the breaking
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news. i appreciate you watching that with me. i'm curious how far -- i say particularly democrats because you saw the sort of shift of topic there by amy klobuchar, how far can they go with pushing actual women aside in women's sports? >> you are seeing it slowly but also happening in the broad daylight. we have the democrats nominees for supreme court won't define what a woman is. they want to murk up and muddy up what gender is defined as and want biological men to compete with females taking away the opportunities. there is a natural difference in sports especially between males and females. they want to get to the courts. >> harris: how far can they go? >> obviously title ix has specific defined terms. but if all of a sudden the main
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defining term gender, the difference between men and women and opportunities that women get are given to men that say they're women, then the whole regulatory scheme is off. those women that are in rowing scholarships are subject to being bumped off the team for a man who says he is a female and row stronger and faster. >> harris: what happens to the science here? i have know we can't get into every nook and cranny of this. touching title ix and having those conversations that put men on women's rowing teams, that -- chromosomes matter, don't they. >> the science should matter. we were twofold to believe the science during science. they don't want to talk about the science and genetics in this instance. >> harris: the outrage over hunter biden's plea agreement
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now. republicans ripping it as a sweetheart deal and angry he will serve no jail time in his fax fraud and gun cases. republicans promising to keep up their investigations. his business dealings, foreign, and the bribery claims involving the biden family. the u.s. attorney for delaware also says the investigation of hunter is jongoing. >> that's to block the house republicans from getting documents. just imagine if they would have said case closed. they would have had no excuse, the department of justice, from providing those documents to the house republicans. now that they say it's on owinging. we have an investigation. it provides a roadblock against the republicans from subpoenaing those additional documents and it's very shameful.
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>> harris: president biden has maintained hunter biden's innocence for years. after the plea deal he said this. [reporter questions] >> president biden: i'm very proud of my son. >> harris: what is your reaction? >> he should be proud of his son. he got a deal that no other defendant would get in the federal system. as a former u.s. attorney, i know what those cases look like. when someone has these tax charges, when they have the gun charges, this is the lightest slap on the wrist that only the son of a president could get. >> harris: i want to dig deeper on that. the big reaction yesterday was yes, sweetheart deal. nobody broke down how sweet was this? >> so first on the tax charges.
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the failure to file your taxes is a misdemeanor. if you file them and don't report certain income it can be a felony. the facts and circumstances of this are very important. things like foreign bank accounts, the sources of those funds, money laundering, routing things through multiple llcs, that appears to not been part of their inquiry on the financial crimes. gun crimes it was such a slam dunk case. they are cracking down on these exact crimes for other people, mostly poor and minority defendants. >> harris: i saw quite a few people of color on twitter last night. some former rap stars saying i got this and it was the same crime as hunter biden but we didn't get treated the same. is their fairness in their complaint? >> there is not. the guidelines if you brandish that gun that you illegally
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possess you aren't eligible for diversion. that says if you stay clean we aren't going to prosecute you for this crime. but if you break the rules of your diversion, then the felony pops back into place. so he is actually not going to be a convicted felon. most likely his gun rights won't be interfered with where many others have. >> harris: a known drug user at the crime and lied about it when he got the gun. >> it is a serious crime that i prosecuted. he lied on a federal form. there is so much pressure right now on federal firearms dealers. they have oh 0 tolerance policy. then you see this intentionally checks the wrong box not an active drug user and gets nothing. >> harris: you can stick around for a bit. fireworks on capitol hill now
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for the first time former special counsel john durham is testifying. let's watch. >> such a way where it willfully ignores exculpatory evidence throughout the course of its investigation. i don't understand that. >> that in my experience that is not the norm. that is not how the f.b.i. performs. in this particular case as reflected in the report there appear to be people, persons in the f.b.i. who are central to opening the investigation that had rather strong views concerning then candidate trump. >> and we've heard in your report that you reference confirmation bias. a lot of times or sometimes we see that the investigators, perhaps the f.b.i. investigators have a confirmation bias because they want a guilty outcome and find the suspect guilty. but we did not see that to be the case for hillary clinton. so it makes me think that based on the investigation into the
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conduct and continuous disregard for duty, there was a special motivation to find this suspect, donald trump and his campaign guilty among anyone else. would you agree? >> i can speak to what the facts show in the report . people draw their reasonable inferences and conclusions from those facts. with an honest reading of the report. >> if either you or someone on your team willfully ignored exculpatory evidence and refused to interview key witnesses, favored one suspect over apt or did one or more things that the f.b.i. did in crossfire hoc. >> there ought to be -- if first thing would be to report it to the court and probably second thing would be to report it to
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the superiors, third thing short of that agent never worked with me again. >> i appreciate your remarks earlier in your open testimony where you said my colleagues and i carried out our work in good faith with integrity in the spirit of following the facts wherever they lead. i'm disappointed in some of my colleagues that have said disparaging remarks about you. i have seen few that talk about your report. they want to talk about everything else. you are on to something. i would yield the balance of my time to the chairman. >> danchenko is a primary sub source. a few years before this work he was investigated f.b.i. for are espi espionage. that case wasilewski >> we remained living in d.c. right? >> he have was right here in d.a. and we'll stop it and then he go hire him, use the tax
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money of the people i get the privilege of representing to pay this guy who they knew was a russian spy. they hire him who is the source of all the false information. is that true? >> they paid him, they hired him and they paid him. >> over 200,000. >> this guy is hanging out with charles dolan, a buddy of the clintons who is also a source for the false dossier used to spy on an american citizen. don't they meet on a park been much somewhere in arlington virginia on news years day? >> middle of the day. >> straight out of the movies, right? the f.b.i. says but we won't talk to charles dolan. this is two of the dumbest things i've ever heard of. they won't talk -- they pay a guy who is a russian spy, the source of the dossier, the other source is charles dolan who neither with that guy on a park been much in arlington and they
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don't want to interview him. you can't make this stuff up. that's what comey's f.b.i. did and still doing this kind of baloney because we were told so running operations and investigations out of headquarters instead of assigning a u.s. attorney. that is a huge problem. in your report that's why your report is valuable. i yield back to the gentleman who was out of time and we now recognize the gentleman from -- oh, i'm sorry, here, >> harris: we'll be dipping in and out of this. matthew whitaker is former acting attorney general under former president trump. first of all, you have been watching this all day. it seems to be building to a crescendo. what are we watching in terms of democrats putting pressure on john durham? >> they are trying to point out where there are holes in his report. they are using sources like the former inspector general's
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report and several of them early on saw where the democrats were trying to -- they were trying to confuse russian interference with american elections with the idea there was collusion between the trump campaign and russian government. it is clear there wasn't. every report found their re there wasn't. >> harris: where are they getting that from? >> they are trying to confuse the american people. the dishonesty on the left particularly today and their messaging. they want to drive home a message and you heard a lot especially early on from former chairman nadler, now ranking member, about the trump indictment which is not even part of john durham's scope at all. >> harris: he brought it up. the reason we're here today is the 37 count indictment. i said did he not read the syllabus on the hearing? >> the reason we're here today i
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thought jordan did a good job, they said they fixed all the problems and it wouldn't happen again but we just learned the mar-a-lago raid was out of the headquarter he not field office. the special counsel p jumped between the grand jury in washington, d.c. and p miami miami. some of the reports haven't been fully made at the f.b.i. we're watching for really any admission by either side that there is a middle narrative, which in american politics especially in the house committee that i appeared in front of several years ago now, there is no middle ground. it is either you see the world as the democrats see it and people in california and new york especially see it, or you see it the way middle america from places like iowa where i'm from. there is a the tier system of
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justice. the fact that they are targeting american citizens with the full power of the federal government. >> harris: wow. of course we have seen that with the i.r.s., yeah. we will dig into it today. i'm so glad you were here across two important points of breaking news, thank you very much. >> they lost power or knew they were in trouble deep undersea there was no emergency beacon received on the surface that confirmed the location. maybe they got entangled or trapped in the the titanic. >> harris: that was navy veteran with me yesterday in "focus" and what people are up against in finding the submersible and five
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passengers. they could be more than the 12,500 feet in the ocean. the u.s. coast guard is sent to give an update -- set to give an update about 1:00 p.m. eastern this afternoon. so we're waiting for that to come up. it has been saying a canadian aircraft detected underwater noises. that bit of hope comes as there is also very little oxygen, about a day's worth left inside that sub. back in 2018, this is part of what's also coming out today, an employee of oceangate, the company that owns the sub, warned the company's owner that the tourist submersible had a potential for catastrophic problems with the titanic voyage going so far down. part of the complaint they didn't do stress testing on the hull to make sure there was integrity there. that has been reported. a similar warning in a letter from dozens of maritime experts
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as well. mike reiss, a writer and former show runner on the simpsons says he is not optimistic about the rescue mission after he himself took that trip last year. >> there were problems with the ship. problems with the submarine because it is an experimental vessel and they are learning as they go along. when we went down, it was -- there were communication problems on every trip i've taken of the four separate dives i have taken with oceangate. every time there was a problem with at least sporadically communicating with the surface. >> harris: dakota wood. from heritage foundation and retired u.s. marine served as a strategist for the marine corps special operations command. great to have you in "focus" today. take us into where the mission is now. our reporter says our military is sending in assets.
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some just left to hit the waters. less than 24 hours left. what's the mission? >> they are grabbing at every straw they can find to get whatever resource, any kind of small submersible that can go to those depths. whatever is available in the time they believe they have left to them given the oxygen supply that you have already talked about. you are talking the depths that have already been mentioned. there isn't much on the planet that can go that deep and operate. normal submarines, most of the max depths are 1,000 feet and that is straining things. some can go deeper than that. trying to get something down 12,000 feet under water and then attach some kind of table to it and drag the thing to the surface. that's a pretty substantial feat and that's once you find it. it is a problem because of the characteristics of ocean waters.
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they have to overcome that at first. >> harris: talk to me to that. >> the ocean has differing levels of saltwater and a change in temperature from one layer to the next where if you ever stuck your finger into a glass much water or a stick into a pond you see how visually it appears that stick or finger kind of shoots off away from you because the light rays operate differently in air than water. the same thing occurs with other energy like sound where you are using sonar. as you go through different layers of water with different salt contents or different temperatures, those sounds are redirected. so we're talking about the clanging that has been heard and talked about. they will go to that area but
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the sounds could have been coming from miles and miles away on some kind of an angle. it just makes findinging things underwater so difficult. >> harris: it helps us understand once they reach this, if we are blessed in you have to watch that happen and now with the ceo of ocean gate and four tourists. the number one thing they have to be doing now is conserve oxygen. how do you do that when you are possibly panicked. i can't imagine they wouldn't be now. >> it's the panic part of that. some of the people in this submersible have a lot of experience. the billionaire we talked about before has been to there. if you have a 19-year-old from pakistan, what is his experience with these sorts of things? the more breathing becomes labored, if they have power. if it's still functioning with
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the battery packs, do they have light? if darkness closes in, there is no light on the bottom of the ocean floor like that. this emotional psychosis can set in. heartbeat develops and start breathing rapidly and worsens the problem. >> harris: thank you very much for your update and detail today. appreciate your time and expertise. the biden administration missing a critical deadline to declassify intelligence on the wuhan china laboratories possible links to covid origins. remember when it was called conspiracy theory and all that? now critics are calling out the administration's stonewalling on what we need to know. hunter biden's agreement is called a sweetheart deal but it won't stop them from doing their jobs. >> actually should enhance our investigation because the d.o.j. should not be able to withhold any information now saying the
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>> harris: republicans tearing into president biden for a missing deadline release information about the wuhan lab's possible links to the origins of the covid pandemic. congress voted unanimously in march to give the united states 90 days to make that intel public. but that deadline came and went. biden administration didn't cough that up. the white house directed fox to admiral hain's office. mike turner had this to say.
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>> this is a deadline passed that was put-in-law. she will have to have some explaining to do in addition to producing these documents. when these documents are made public and they are read they will be in sharp contrast by the unclassified version by the biden administration. people will believe the administration was being disingenuous. >> harris: fox confirmed a prominent united states-funded scientist who worked on coronavirus projects is 1 of 3 chinese researchers who became very ill with an unspecified illness during the initial cofield outbreak. those things were talked about but we were stickered on twitter if we asked questions about them. kat cammack from florida, member of the energy and commerce committee and the select subcommittee on the weaponization of the federal government. great to see you today. what should we be focusing on as we learn this new information? >> well, harris, it seems like
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every day is a game of whack-a-mole with this administration. if it is not one thing, it's another. we're seeing this deadline has been missed in conjunction with the bombshell report that has been verified that patient 0 worked in the taxpayer-funded wuhan lab. that in itself right there means that there is so much more for us to uncover. but of course what we've seen in the past from the biden administration is them continually missing statutory deadlines like the budget, for example. is this incompetence or malice? at this point neither is acceptable. what we need to do is continue to uncover all of these documents but more than anything the american people deserve to see the unclassified document. they need to know the truth about the origins of covid and what the administration and congress have known all along. transparency and accountability that americans have been
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demanding regardless of party. they are hesitant because they recognize this report that they are quote, unquote, attempting to did declassify and taking so long it flies in the face of the political narrative they have been pushing out there. they will have explaining to development mr. clean is on perpetual duty. one more example of walking back statements. >> harris: it complicates where we are with china right now. how can you hold their feet to the fire when you hold no leverage? mike mccaul said that with our secretary of state sitting down with president xi of china. they got us. let's move on. after hunter biden's plea deal with the department of justice, house oversight chair james comer promised to forge ahead with its investigation ongoing into the bidens. top house republicans totally on board. >> if you are the president's
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son you get sweetheart deals. it does nothing to our investigation. it should enhance it. the d.o.j. should not be able to withhold any information now. >> hunter is not out of the woods yet, though. the house -- oversight committee is on the issue of the source of these funds. there is no real clarity. >> i have a fundamental question. if joe biden is not the big guy, who is? that's what we're digging into. be forthcoming and let us see the information. >> harris: one op-ed headline hunter biden's plea deal wreaks asking how it could take five years to come up. another argues hunter biden's plea deal is proof democrats are the untouchables in joe's america. post cover highlighting the gun that sparked the charges with the headline hunter gets away with it. there are so many pictures and videos. i know it's offensive but it is everywhere.
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he is prolific. >> if this isn't democrat privilege, i don't know what it is hypocrisy. call it whatever you will. it highlights the two-tiered justice system we're seeing now in america. the destruction of some of the most important pillars in america and our constitutional republic. you wonder why americans are losing faith in the media and justice system. it is because of things like this. he gets two years probation, a slap on the wrist? this guy faces his first drug charge in 1988. the year i was born. 35 years this guy has been building up a record, a rap sheet. all he gets is a slap on the wrist and two years probation? never mind the fact he wasn't eligible for the program that has allowed him to divert into probation rather than face trial. rather than face jail time.
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that's a slap in the face and goes against the principals and guiding documents on the d.o.j. website now. we have to get to the bottom of this. where there is smoke there is fire. it doesn't mean we turn away and say what's done is done. we need to get to the bottom of it. if they have nothing to hide they'll stop obstructing what we need to do in terms of investigation. >> harris: i want to bring you back on another way and dig deep into the next time we talk what regular americans like some of the rappers that have come out now and said they faced. kodak black faced something similar and didn't get the same treatment as a rap artist that joe biden's son got. it will get interesting. >> ask leslie snipe, the actor. he have will tell you. >> harris: hunter biden's plea deal is shaking up the 2024
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>> harris: the name game is off to a strong start as the 2024 presidential race heats up in a crowded gop field. frontrunner former president donald trump had this to say about his closest competitor ron desantis during part two of that exclusive interview with bret baier. >> the way is going right will he be 3 or 4. i like fighting number two.
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>> harris: a new poll shows a 6-point drop among trump supporters since the federal indictment. 71% say politics played a role in the case. mark meredith is in washington, d.c. with more. mark. >> good morning to you. former president trump continues to downplay the competition he is facing in the 2024 republican primary but his challengers are making headway according to the latest polls. we have a break down. likely republican voters trump commands 46%. florida governor desandt in second with 26% and mike pence up slight slay at 9%. trump focuses most of his criticism of desonolith and accuses him for being disloyal. trump doubling down when speaking the bret baier. >> i got the guy elected. he came to see me let's say weeping because he was dead. he was getting out of the race
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and looking for jobs probably at law firms or wherever he will look. he was totally dead. he ran a horrible campaign. >> they have put together the multiple time trump complimented desantis as a strong leader. most of the field including tim scott voicing outrage over the justice department's deal with hunter biden. senator scott says if elected he with overhaul the entire department of justice. >> we are going to fire joe biden. and then we are going to fire merrick garland, and fire christopher wray and we are going to restore confidence, integrity, in our department of justice. >> the department of justice was a big issue in 2020. looks like a bigger issue going
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forth. >> harris: thank you. hunter biden's plea deal triggered a political firestorms on both sides of the aisle. associated press with this headline. democrats downplay hunter biden's plea deal. republicans see opportunity to deflect from trump. pollster power panel now. kellyanne conway fox news contributor. and former senior counselor to president trump. doug schoen, former clinton advisor. talk to me about the recent polls show and is there any worry for democrats? they were saying trump eva's polling will really fall off. what is your take. >> there is a worry for democrats. the a.p. headline doesn't reflect voters will digest this. the first presidential election, harris, where the voters know more information about that laptop, about the deals in ukraine and china. about the fact that 51
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intelligence national security experts lied in a letter, gave a political talking point to a debate and joe biden denied it being true. his son has a criminal record. if i were a democr, i woulbe distancing myself from the entire biden family. they get nothing out of joe biden except having to defend his poor record on everything and polls are underwater on tougher major issue. now this sort of aching little peek into hunter biden. it will be litigated by voters in 2024 if they contrast it to president trump who they feel is being treated unfairly. are >> harris: doug, talk to me about that part that kellyanne just leaned in on how the president said his son didn't do anything. how does it make the president look? >> it doesn't help him. there is a sense the whole thing is political.
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but until we get to the point that there is credible evidence to support the allegations that the republicans are making about the $5 million bribe and influence peddling and the like i don't think it will have as much impact as kellyanne suggests. >> harris: let me step in. what we are talking about is a plea deal the president's son, called a sweetheart deal just took. all the other allegations of bribery are out there. james comer, chairman of house oversight will go for that. and we know that. but he has been -- he have said he committed crimes. he pleaded guilty. >> his name is hunter biden not joe biden. remember billy carter went to libya. richard nixon had a brother who was involved in some unsavory affairs. kellyanne, i believe it will be
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about the economy. joe biden is getting bad ratings there. that to me is his real exposure. donald trump's real exposure is with the weight of the criminal charges against him. well, he is doing fine. >> harris: he is still in a tie with your leading candidate, >> but independents are moving away. >> no question election is about the economy. i have faith in voters. they can look at many issues and make a choice. what will bother them here they know that hunter biden vel cowardly as a small man sued to not allow his 4-year-old daughter to have his last name. they are watching all of this. he went on a friend's private plane to go to arkansas and plead poor that he can't pay child support. i think the biden family is hurting the democratic party long term. they have are force evidence to defend them all the time. in 2016 the campaign i ran to a
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successful inclusion we won four states with less than 1% each. florida, michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. this is important because things do balance on the margins. this is going to be part of what voters consider. not the biggest issue, but an issue. >> harris: what doug said is huge is the economy. i have yet to see after he spent a previous 20 days talking about the economy the numbers move for the president on that issue. >> they haven't. >> harris: thank you both. "outnumbered" is next. in my pocket. and my service was my down payment. i talked with newday on a thursday, put a contract on this house on saturday. 30 days later, we were moving in. i would tell other vets out there who are dreaming of getting into a home to stop dreaming. pick up the phone. call newday. you served your country. allow newday to serve you.
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