you don't know what you're getting into, but at the end of the day, you know you have a team behind you that can help you. not having to worry about the future makes it possible to make the present as best as it can be for everybody. >> john: a researcher funded by u.s. taxpayer dollars at the wuhan lab, the grant that paid for his work given out by a unit at the national institutes of health that was led by dr. anthony fauci, despite his

insistence they never looked at gain of function research is he lab. john roberts in washington. here we go again for another excitement-packed 60 minutes. >> sandra: you never know where it's going to go. kentucky senator rand paul is fired up and ready to react in just moments. but first this fox news alert. >> we currently have five service assets searching for the tie and we expect ten surface assets in the next 24/48 hours. >> smack dab in search and rescue. we need to have hope. i can't tell you what the noises are but we are searching where the noises are. >> john: update on the desperate search to find the missing crew aboard a submersible exploring the wreck of the titanic. >> sandra: they have heard more

noises from the search area, but equipment may not make it there in time. >> john: admiral john mauger, it's good to have you on with us again. first of all, jamie frederick, captain in a press conference was talking about continuing to hear these noise from underwater. i know they have been recorded, sent to the navy for analysis. do you have any indication what those noises might be? >> john, thanks for having me back on the show. this is a really complicated search effort that's going on, it's complicated because of the area where it's happening, complicated because of the water, it's complicated because the nature of underwater search, and as, you know, we have been working through this, our thoughts have been with the crews and the family members involved, i know this is a really difficult time for the family members and so we are doing everything that we can.

as we have got data back from the sonar buoys, we are sending it off to the navy experts to see if we can classify those noises. but as captain jamie frederick noted we are searching where the noises are. we are not waiting to hear what they might be. but we are making sure that we are putting rov or remote underwater vehicle assets in the vicinity of the noises to keep looking. >> john: early word they were happening at regular intervals about 30 minutes or so. do we know if it's the case? >> the sonar buoys are picking up information that we have sent to the lab and then stuff we get -- gets reported basically from the aircraft. and so i don't have the latest from the aircraft in terms of the frequency but understand that they are still detecting

noise in there and so we are going to continue searching there and continue to get that information over to the navy for analysis. >> john: so news cameras at st. john's airport in newfoundland last night caught a glimpse of three c-17s from the u.s. air force, taken off for transport to the scene, do we know what the equipment consists of? >> we absolutely do. one of our most capable rovs that we expect to be on the scene early tomorrow morning with the operators. and so it's capable in operating at depths of 6,000 meters there. excuse me, at 4,000 meters, and so we are very fortunate.

two 20 foot containers of equipment and a lot of logistics that went into and appreciate the work of the united states air force and transcom and all the folks involved, including the canadian coast guard and military to get that equipment to the port and loaded on the vessel. >> john: is that the curve 21 rover? >> so this -- this equipment was -- i have it as the pol polagic odisius equipment. >> john: have any of the rovs been down to the titanic since the submersible went missing, have they been down there to see if the submersible might have become entangled? >> we have had the ross operating at the depth of their capability and beyond their capability. the two rovs we have working, they are from the two vessels

right now, do have some limitations in terms of their depth, and complexity of this case is as we pushed the one rov all the way down to the bottom, we had some complications operating it. but we also have, from the sonar buoy information, potential noise sources in areas that we can search and so we are searching in those areas with the rovs as well. with the new capability that's coming on scene between the equipment that was loaded there in st. john's we just talked about and the french research vessel moving to the scene now as well, we don't anticipate any issues with operating at the full depth. and then they'll also bring additional capabilities as well with the rovs. >> john: time is running out, about 20 hours left, according to the specifications of the

submersible. >> so this is -- time is one of the big challenges in this case, and again, you know, it's really difficult and our thoughts for the family members and the crews there, but we are doing everything that we can in bringing the resources to bear to search the surface, to search the subsurface and the water column, and so we are going to continue working this hard. >> john: motto of the coast guard, always ready, proving again, admiral, that you are. thanks for joining us. appreciate it. good luck. hope you find them. >> john, thanks for having me on. >> john: sandra. >> sandra: china slamming president biden for referring to president xi jinping as a dictator. foreign ministry calling his words extremely absurd and irresponsible. >> john: just days after secretary of state antony blinken traveled to beijing trying to ease tensions between the two superpowers. and they though agree to stabilize relations, china is

still creeping closer to u.s. shores. >> sandra: and new reporting sparking fears that china has been eaves dropping from cuba. tracking a pair of telecom companies on the spy base. >> john: and two countries reportedly in talks for a joint training facility on the island of cuba, just 100 miles off of key west. how can the u.s. deter china's growing influence? we will ask senator rand paul in just moments and get his reaction to brand-new covid origins reporting. >> sandra: first to gillian turner, live at the state department with the latest from there. hi, gillian. >> gillian: it turns out that president biden apparently believes president xi jinping is a dictator, revelation that came during a political fundraiser along with new intelligence disclosures about the infamous

chinese spy balloon. the president reportedly told donors the reason why xi jinping got upset in terms of when i shot the balloon down with the two boxcars of spy equipment in it, he didn't know it was there. no, i'm serious, what a great embarrassment for dictators when they didn't know what happened. now, china's foreign ministry today is calling biden's dictator comment irresponsible, extremely absurd and a political provocation. yesterday secretary blinken confirmed a leak that revealed china and cuba are indeed planning a new joint military training facility less than 100 miles from florida on cuba's northern coast. they could use to gather intelligence and even launch troops. >> this is something we are going to be monitoring very, very closely and we have been clear about that and we will protect our homeland, protect interests. >> gillian: the white house

national security team appearing to confirm this reporting. take a listen. >> china is trying to improve their global reach and influence and again, their global intelligence collection capabilities, it's not like we are not aware of it, monitoring it, and not like we haven't taken steps. >> gillian: the state department is busy briefing reporters right now. we have not had a chance to turn the tape around for you, but i can tell you they just said it comes as no surprise what the president said, and should come as no surprise the white house has differences with beijing and this is all sort of just business as usual and to be expected. we'll try to get you that clip asap. >> sandra: gillian turner live at the state department, thank you. >> john: one of the first covid-19 patients was a researcher at a u.s.-funded lab in wuhan, china. we are also learning that part of that funding came from a national institute of health

unit overseen by dr. fauci. let's bring in kentucky senator rand paul. we know one of the first patient gs, ben hu, was probably a star student of known as the bat woman who made gain of function research, her oyster, and we believe he was operating on the same thing and turns out, according to reporting, senator, that some of the funding for his research came from the nih. what do you say about that? >> i've been saying this for a couple years now. there is a certain irony to the fact that we may well have, the taxpayer may well have funded what became the pandemic which killed millions of people and we need to know that, need to a add -- admit it, explore it, we don't want it to happen again. i've been asking the biden administration for help for two years, and what i've gotten at

every turn is pushback, hiding documents, so now we have intelligence that says yes, one of the scientists who was creating the super viruses in the lab, in wuhan, was the first guy t get sick. this is in november of 2019. most people think that a pandemic, the first person to get sick is about 13 weeks or so before the pandemic hits. so in january 2020 is when it starts exploding in wuhan, it's everywhere. all over town, not just the wet market, all over town. but in november, 8 to 10 weeks before that, they now think the very first infection was a guy that was actually handling and not only handling dangerous viruses but handling them in an unsafe manner. what i've been asking china to do is work with us on this. they are not alone in this. there is some blame to go around. anthony fauci, nih, yes, they funded it and pushing it. they deserve some of the blame for the terrible judgment in this. but really it's not about blame,

it's trying to make sure it does not happen again. we have to admit it happened and then go on to say we are not going to let this kinds of gain of function research happen without any kind of scrutiny. >> sandra: you've been calling for a ban on that. republican colleague mike gallagher in the house on the documents the white house is not turning up. saying congress overwhelmingly passed legislation requiring the administration to declassify all relevant intel around the origins of covid. biden cannot continue to ignore this overwhelming bipartisan consensus. congress must use every tool to make sure the president makes its information available to the public. they are not doing that. so what next? >> think about it. you know, pompeo and trump did he classified in january 2021 the fact three researchers got sick. we didn't know their names or they were intimately involved

with gain of function research and creating the viruses. you are right, passed unanimously to declassify the information, it was to be done by sunday. people said monday is a holiday, certainly on tuesday. outbiden administration is saying they have not done it. it's difficult when you have branches of government, will they resist us and not do it or just saying they are late. i think ultimately they are going to do it but declassification does not mean they will reveal it. most of the information i've been looking for for two years that they have denied me is already declassified. declassification is part of the problem, but they have to give it to us. i want to see and see the documents that list the names of the three scientists. if we have intelligence gathered that says we know these three scientists, particularly ben hu is the patient 0, the person who got covid before anybody in the world, let's release that. we are still having trouble getting democrats to even believe that this happened and until democrats admit that it happened we can't get them to

agree to any kind of reform or regulation of this dangerous research. >> john: so senator, this search that ben hu was under taking, was it strictly civilian in nature or a military connection? there has been reporting that suggests the wuhan institute of virology was in some way connected to the chinese military. >> there's a lot of connection between their civilian and military. what we do know, the gao, a part of our government, revealed that nih money was going to u.s. universities and one was revealed recently, university of california davis, university of california at berkeley, and at irving, all subcontracting money to wuhan and some going for civilian, and some a group called amms, academy of military medical sciences. so we know that military research was being founded by the nih.

all done only because dr. fauci approved going around the committee. there was a committee set up in 2017 that was supposed to review dangerous research and see if it was too dangerous to be done. all of this should have gone before the committee but it only happened because dr. fauci took away the scrutiny and he funneled the money around the committees so the scrutiny did not happen and there should be culpability and should be punishment for what he did and his abuse of power. >> sandra: so how would you characterize our relations with china? i mean, you -- there's the assumption that the administration is trying to delicately dance around this to not damage those further. >> you know, i'm of two minds. i've been a very big critic of socialism and communism, i wrote a book, and talked about mao, the great famine and the history of china. but we live in world with china who has nuclear weapons so

i'm for continued diplomacy. part of diplomacy convincing adversaries it's in their best interest to do something. we cannot make china do things or russian do things, i would say to xi jinping, work with us. funding of this research is dangerous, we want to reform the way we fund it also but want to work with you but thfi thing we have to do is admit it came from the lab, admit the first people were lab workers and not just kicking china about this. we funded it, partly responsible. and we are doing this all over the united states in many different labs. we have to have more oversight on this, and ultimately the unwise terrible decisions of dr. fauci to exempt this research and not allow it to go before the proper committee, he bears the full brunt of the responsibility for this. >> john: a lot of food for thought for the future, senator

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american economy. so we will return to 2% inflation and maximum employment. what will be the level of interest rates there, that's a really good question, and do you suspect it's going to settle at a higher level than we have known historically. >> it's really hard to know. it's a great question. >> john: it's a great question. not the answer americans want to hear, that was jerome powell telling the senate inflation has a long way to go before 2%, but powell says they are making progress, pointing out the housing prices are beginning to cool somewhat. are the markets reacting to it? the survey says -- oh, not too bad. it was down a little earlier, now it's up 12 points. so, sandra, wait and see attitude. >> it goes up, it goes down, as john roberts always says. sharply unchanged what i say about a market like that, up 12 points. >> john: i like that, sharply

unchanged. >> sandra: stewart varney uses that, know i had it first. business is booming for a lot of folks, thanks to the popular app tiktok, but the influencers and ever changing trends are rattling business cycles. some are even shaping their product decisions around the app. let's bring in jackie and brian, co-host of big money show. maybe it was hemmer -- i have to think that out, stewart is like sandra -- so keith lee does this chipotle ad and he changes everybody's chipotle orders and then chipotle has to deal with angry customers, where they can't make this happen. the original ad. >> this is the --

>> just dropped in the app. >> vinegarette. >> get it in the app right now. >> sandra: that happened and everybody said i want one, but not every chipotle could accommodate this, so jackie, chipotle faced a decision. give to the whims of tiktok or risk losing business. it's now a permanent item. >> the key, it's an in-app thing, and some counters you cannot get it. my chipotle does not have this. >> sandra: you asked for it? >> no, no, it's not on the menu. and we have become this culture modeled off kardashians, they made a reality show and doing nothing, and now it's making people influencers, we are copy

cats, where is originality. we have had conversations with tiktok exists, why people use it, i strongly suggest people to rethink their tiktok addictions and think about the way, you know, why can't you go to chipotle and create your own thing. i make my bowl different every time. we are trying to copy each other. a cultural phenomenon. >> sandra: governors in some states like in montana, calling for a ban on tiktok. listen. >> the issue with tiktok and these other applications owned by foreign adversaries is they are able to steal data about americans and ship it back for nefarious purposes. it's not what the app does, it's where the personal data goes. this is a national security issue. >> sandra: people just keep on using it. so a lot of companies are saying

we cannot deny this has the attention of the key demographic out there. people out there spending money and eating at fast food restaurants. this is the los angeles review, brian, the journal headline keith lee helping a restaurant, how an influencer helps a vegas eatery become national news. before the tiktok, there were four employees, and now 25, plans to hire more. frank and sons is a national attraction, not uncommon to see tourists with suitcases lined up out front. they cannot deny it brings a lot of money in the door. >> you get eyeballs on the brand, whatever the frankadilla, whatever he came up with, it's like free market research that chipotle gets. it's crowd sourcing. i think it is a benefit of social media. generates ideas. you get more variety, the problem is if it's a chinese

company, then it is susceptible to a law in china that says if we want your data we can have it. you've got to give it over. that's not a marketing question. that's a national security question. they are separate things but i don't think the united states is in position to say well, nobody really cares about national security so let's forget about the whole thing. china is putting a surveillance operation in cuba, 90 miles from where people go to chipotle in florida so we have to take it seriously. and if you have to find note platform, maybe that's what you have to do. >> sandra: dave's gourmet, a partnership with pink sauce. first watch. >> why did dave's gourmet partner with chef p? we saw the pink sauce go viral on tiktok along with everyone else. but with our 30 plus years of making sauces we offered expertise instead of criticism.

>> pii, chef pii, is taking social media by storm and a real thing. this is driving decisions of companies. >> that looks gross. i would not want to eat that. and remember on tiktok, kids are doing these challenges and hurting themselves, in some cases even dying, too. my dad used to say to me, if everybody jumped off the george washington bridge would you, and i would say of course not. but you know, you think about that and if everybody is eating pink sauce, should you? >> sandra: the main ingredient is dragon fruit. >> my dad did not say jump off the george washington, but jump into lake superior. >> sandra: you don't want it on your kids' phone or whatever it is, you can't deny a massive audience out there. >> the power is there, it has to be dealt with as a parent and a country. >> sandra: at last glance, #pink

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we have also mobilized the horizon arctic to add vessel support for this mission. we acknowledge and thank our client, exxonmobil, who has without question given the vessel the time and space needed to respond to this incident. we also thank premier andrew fury for his support from the province of newfoundland and labrador. no traininger responding to difficult incidence. we work together to ensure every possible effort to bring people home. the people on the titan and their families are our focus. we care about their well-being. all of us in newfoundland and labrador, canada, united states and the world are unified in this work. while the united states coast guard and cooperation with the canadian coast guard is leading the search and rescue effort, our critical role remains in the support capacity. it has been a very difficult few days for the crew and families of those on board the titan and the polar prince.

the polar prince captain and crew have been steadfast in providing support during this difficult time. we have been supporting the titanic expeditions for many years. polar prince, 72 meter vessel, remains at the titanic site. iconic former canadian ice breaker updated with advanced technology and expeditions in the arctic. horizon arctic is also involved in the mission. 94 meter vessel is one of the most powerful support vessel of the world. often working internationally, rig moves, offshore wind infrastructure installation and sea bed surveys before returning to newfoundland and labrador for a seasonal project this summer. horizon arctic was en route on sunday and then returned to port

in st. john's to pick up deep water equipment. they loaded an rov, arrived by air to st. john's airport. they deported at 5:00 a.m. this morning and will arrive at the titanic site tomorrow morning. we are aware of the time sensitivity. the crews and on shore team are experts in their fields and will support the effort in any way we can. we remain holding out hope they will be located and brought home safely. chief joe. >> thank you, sean. thank you all for being here, too, as well. my name is chief joe, and our people are very concerned for the crew of the titan. we are proud of the polar

prince, its crew and work they have done, remarkable vessel, no doubt the captain and crew have been using the expertise and professionalism during this difficult time. also want to thank sean and the support team here at horizon for all they are doing to support the search-and-rescue operations. i have been in constant contact with the operation team reaching out to prayer groups across the country to bring hope and effort, we are praying for our friends on board the tighten submersible. we want them to come home. we want them to come home. we want them to come home. we want them to come home safely. we ask everyone across canada and the world to pray with us that we can find and rescue the titan. thank you.

[inaudible] >> so the u.s. coast guard is leading the search and rescue effort as you know. we are taking our direction from them and all the communication are flowing back through them. they had a fairly in-depth conference about an hour and a half ago i think and they have covered all that. we have nothing further to add. >> [inaudible] >> the north atlantic is always a challenging place, especially in the region that we are in. the weather is not overly significant at this point, but it always presents a challenge in the region. >> polar prince -- [inaudible]

>> the equipment that's been mobilized for this is -- is the finest in the world. the most capable in the world. we have to hold out hope. i think as you are aware there is still life support available on the submersible, and we'll continue to hold out hope until the very end. >> [inaudible] >> after the dive began, an hour and 45 minutes after you lost connection, can you say anything about what, if any communications you've had when the dive started and the period of time that we don't have any information until authorities were made aware that the vessel -- [inaudible] >> all i can tell you there is all protocols were followed for the mission. >> details from the coast guard about what's going on, can you tell us about your staff on the

ship, what are they telling you, what's it like out there, what's the mood on the ship, any of that that you can provide us? >> these are extremely professional and experienced crews. this is an unprecedented situation but i can assure you they are handling their responsibilities professionally and fully focused on trying t find the submersible and bring those people back safely. >> did any families go out on the vessel? >> are the families -- [inaudible] >> that's a question i can't answer. >> [inaudible] >> the u.s. coast guard is leading the search and rescue effort and all of that is funneled through the u.s. coast guard. >> [inaudible] i take it this community, this exploration, they have been here for many years, friends and family to you guys, what is -- you do a lot of things, but what is this situation like?

>> yeah, core values of maritime services is customer focus and we are focused on all our customers and the various missions we operate and making sure they are carried out with the utmost safety. >> [inaudible] is there anything out there that's capable of lifting this thing up from the depth that it's presumed to be and bringing it back to the surface? >> there is a lot of variability around the question you are asking there, but the equipment on-site and coming to site is the most capable in the world and some of that equipment is capable at reaching those depths. >> [inaudible] >> there's variability around that question as well, patrick. it's -- it's difficult to -- for me to give you any more detail than the u.s. coast guard has provided in their briefings. >> can you tell us what time

your vessel [inaudible] >> i don't have that off the top of my head, i'm sorry. >> [inaudible] >> i've been in the marine industry since a very young age and seen a lot of situations and never seen equipment of that nature move that quickly, the response from the u.s. coast guard, the u.s. military, the folks at the airport, the people here, various companies were involved in the mobilization of the equipment to the arctic, it was done flawlessly. it's a deep water rov. >> and how long of [inaudible] >> how long can it stay out? >> how long will it stay out. an it will stay out until the

search is completed. >> sean, can you talk about what -- [inaudible] before it missed the timeline that it was supposed to be -- [inaudible] >> there was regular communications up until a point, and then i think as you are aware, communication ceased. >> was the crew doing well with everything going as planned, was there any moment they communicated a distress. >> i'm not aware of details of that. >> at what point did communications cease? >> a lot of concerns of safety and what oceangate was doing. >> oceangate runs an extremely safe operation. our whole focus right now is getting that submersible located

and getting those people brought back safely. >> at what point did communications cease? >> when -- when they were -- diving to the titanic at some point during that. >> do you have a timeline on that, specifically? >> there is a timeline. i don't have it off the top of my head, no. >> okay, that's it. >> ok, that's it. thank you. >> we are in constant contact with the crew of the polar prince. emergency procedures kicked in immediately. our emergency room next door is staffed 24/7 with a group of extremely capable people and there's live communication with the vessel at all times. we have 17 crew on board the ship. that's it, thanks. >> john: ok, so that's sean leet, the president of the

horizon maritime, and we saw chief mizal joe, the company who owns the company and they don't seem to know a whole lot more than the coast guard has been able to convey to us either. sandra. >> sandra: and detailing what he believes is the most capable equipment that is on-site and heading to the site able to rescue that crew. brad mcdonald is joining us now, former commanding officer of a naval attack submarine, the company that owns the polar prince the first to drop off the sub and the first to look for it. >> well, my true reaction is more of a heartfelt reaction than intellectual reaction in that i understand everybody is trying hard to maintain hope and that's a good thing. and as the coast guard captain said earlier today, it's still a search and rescue mission as oh supposed to just a recovery mission. as i mentioned to you earlier, i

speak to a lot of my former sub marine shipmates, and everybody is speculating, and certainly hope is mentioned but most s submariners i know feel it's a dour situation. >> john: and he said they tried to get a rover to the titanic, as it got to depth ran into some issues but now the horizon arctic, part of horizon maritime fleet is bringing from research services, a 6k rover, which has full capability of operating in that depth. brings a lot more technology to the fight. i don't know if it brings a whole lot more hope, not with time running out the way it is, the ship is not expected to arrive tomorrow morning and that's about the time the clock goes to 0 and the 96 hours of

oxygen the submersible had. >> you know, a lot said about the ability to live for 96 hours on that vessel, and as i've said before, i'm not an expert on the new vessel or the rov, i am aware of the difficulties operating in the depths and i can only imagine the conditions on this vessel. one submarine i was on in 1979 during the iran hostage crisis, we are waylaid on station, and we got delayed 45 days beyond what we thought we were going to be at sea, and we ran out of just about everything to eat except for steak and prunes. good news, the nonsmokers were happy the smokers ran out of cigarettes. we thought those were bad conditions but that's nothing

close to being stuck on a vessel like this for three days without a lot of vital necessities and probably not a lot of hope. >> sandra: brad, finally, do you -- how long do you think that they are going to hold out this hope and remain -- have this remain a search and rescue mission? what would they be relying on? i mean, they said don't rely too much on the oxygen left or the hours that oxygen would be left because we just don't know how fast they are using that up, there's a lot of variables involved, when would you expect them to call that if they are not able to find this vessel? >> well, i can't imagine the emotional burden of whoever the person that has to make that determination and say ok, we have decided officially that we are no longer in search and rescue. i would suppose that official statement would be made well after most of us would have said there's probably no hope left. as for the timeline, i don't know. that's the thing we have been hearing for two days now is 96

hours of oxygen, that seems to be determining factor. my suspicions are that the 96 hours of oxygen is not the issue, that it's more like this vessel is flooded and that it's full of water, and that's the problem. >> sandra: that is a tough -- tough situation to comprehend. brad, thank you very much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> you believe the department of justice should be defunded? >> i don't believe these discussions about defunding the police make any sense at all for the security of the nation. >> 60% of americans now believe there is a double standard at the justice department. >> chairman jordan seems to be looking for any excuse to discredit law enforcement and doj finally holding donald trump accountable for his serious violations of the law. >> john: some of the fireworks to come out of special counsel john durham's testimony before

the house judiciary committee earlier today why he concluded the trump russia probe should never have been launched. many republicans say it shows bias, and democrats disagree and let's bring in bret baier, interesting back and forth and at one point durham claiming that fbi agents apologized to him forever launching crossfire hurricane in the first place. >> yeah, it was fascinating, some of this testimony. sometimes fiery. democrats look through it as a prism of this is a nothing burger, and that it's exactly like the office of inspector general and it's a waste of time. obviously and you heard that from some of the questioning. republicans say look in the deep substance of this, and the first time we heard from john durham, he is saying the steele dossier was a fake, that the president of the united states, the vice president, the fbi director, cia director, national intelligence

director all knew there was a plan by the clinton team and the democrats to try to tie donald trump to russia. they knew that ahead of time. the fbi moved forward with this investigation even though they knew that and they knew that the dossier was in question and had they known all of this, the court would not have granted what it granted. >> john: a lot of pointed statements from durham, including this one about the overall effect of this. >> the fact that these people made these findings as reflected in the report is of concern. and should be of concern to any american who cares about our civil liberties, the rule of law, and the just and proportionate applicationch of the law to all of us, whether friends or foes ought to ap aplay -- apply to everybody in the same way.

>> john: and hillary clinton was treated one way, donald trump was treated one way. and now the biden case. >> said he looked like a benedictine monk in a strip club, jonathan turley's conversations, he did look uncomfortable but you got the back bristled up when steve cohen said your reputation is going down the tubes and he said my reputation, my family, my lord, i'm not worried about it, sir. and the report has not made it out of our channel or other places, interesting to see the testimony. >> john: something happening on our channel in the middle of august, you and martha will be hosting the first gop

presidential debate, and he had this statement about ron desantis. >> he is dropping like a rock, number three, number four, i like fighting number two. in a golf match you have one guy that's close and others are not -- i'm going after two. >> and the pack has spent money on ron desantis's head than in all of 22 supporting gop candidates. i think there's a question whether the former president will be on the stage in milwaukee. he has not made up his decision officially, we'll see. by the time he gets there, whether he wants the spotlight. he clearly, i think, enjoyed the back and forth, he told me it was tough but fair at the end of the interview and afterwards. >> and you'll be back together at some point. >> at some point. >> weekly event. >> maybe so. probably not weekly.

>> john: his point about the debate, why should i debate people who are 30, 40 points less than me. >> and we invite every candidate to come on, and hope to interview every candidate and give time, tough the questions. >> sandra: california congressman adam schiff could make history today by becoming the 26th member in house history to be censured. chad, does she have the votes? >> sandra, it appears the house will penalize adam schiff. luna tried to censure him earlier, $16 million fine, 20 republicans blocked it. but brian fitzpatrick is a yes. >> constitutional check. blatantly violates any article or amendment of the constitution we have to stop and fix that. now no 27th amendment issues in

the resolution, now it's good to go. >> the new resolution eliminates the fine, schiff is running for the senate after feinstein retires in 2025. it could boost him against porter and lee. he embraces the penalty. >> this is a badge of honor driven by extreme maga members of the house and donald trump threatening republicans with retaliation if they don't vote on this bogus resolution. >> there is no love loss between schiff and house speaker kevin mccarthy. if censured, schiff must stand before mccarthy in the house chamber and face a verbal rebuke. >> sandra: chad pergram live on the hill, thank you. >> defending women's rights is not anti-anyone. following only two sexes and real and important differences between the two sexes is not hateful, it's fact.

the number of female athletes denied opportunities or traumatized or hurt growing at an alarming rate. >> john: swimmer riley gaines speaking at a senate hearing about the need to protect women's sports. mike emmanuel is live in washington with the latest. she's very outspoken and had one of her biggest forums in order to tell her story today. >> you are absolutely right. riley gaines talked about the recent dramatic shift in culture on behalf of the transgender movement. dick durbin of illinois acknowledged riley gaines pain after competing and sharing a locker room with a biological male. but durbin talked about her rights and someone that is transgender. and opportunity to hear from a transgender high school student from alabama. >> i'm asking for you to help us stop certain people from using the transgender community as a political pawn. please stop attacking our lives for votes or money.

these are human rights hanging in the balance. >> republicans focused on preserving women's sports. ted cruz tried to get the president of the human rights campaign to say if there is a difference in the genders. >> is that -- i'm trying to get a yes or no, not trying to get a speech. >> oh, i -- >> is there a difference between women and men. >> i think there are definitions for biological sex. >> you are not answering. >> the judiciary committee during pride month taking upstate laws having an impact on transgender youth. >> john: mike emmanuel covering that, a dramatic hearing and we will follow that issue as well. thank you. down to the final hours of survivability, at least according to the -- the statistics on the submersible. let's hope that some time between now and tomorrow morning they find this sub. >> sandra: seems they are rushing any equipment they can

to that site to look for that vessel, john. we'll continue to watch it hour by hour. we'll see where we are this time tomorrow. i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts. we'll see you again tomorrow. "the story" with martha starts right now. >> martha: thank you. good afternoon. i'm martha maccallum. so this is the story of five adventurous explorers, the kind of people that throughout our history have stretched our knowledge of our planet, of space, of our oceans. they understand the dangers and they take the risk. they all, all of these individuals, have friends and families and loved ones who know them and who are intensely worried about them right now. hoping and praying that they can just pull out a miracle here and make it out alive. their hope right now is largel