in america. we have a deep state this is really serious we have to clean it up. >> carley: we have to leave it there. >> thank you. >> carley: we were talking about evan gershkovich in the show that he appeared in a ruggles courtroom the russian court rejected his appeal. >> todd: it appears he will be behind bars for the foreseeable future. "fox & friends" takes it from here. >> brian: we begin with a fox news alert. the search for the missing titanic submersible intensifying as experts warn the people on board only have one hour of oxygen left. >> ainsley: crews are sending from above. unmanned vessels two miles below the surface. look at that graphic. two grand canyons on top of each other, it's 12 eiffel towers. todd piro, go ahead, pete. >> pete: todd piro joins us live with the latest. >> pete: all three of the coast guard leading the international effort to find the five passengers on board who are

expected to run out of the oxygen at 7:08 eastern time this morning. that is literally one hour and seven minutes from now. right now officials are unsure if those reported underwater banging noises are a sign of life but they are still treating it as a search and rescue operation. with respect to the noises specifically we don't know what they are to be frank with you. i can tell you it's inconclusive. again, i think the important pieces we're searching in the area where the noise was detected. >> todd: search expanded over 2.5 miles below the surface with more vessels and equipment joining. in crews are also surveying over 14,000 square miles, twice the size of the state of kentucky cut. we are learning more about the history of ocean gait expeditions report of technical issues on six prior trips. one passenger claiming he was on the suband lost contact two hours forcing early end to the

journey. safety report detailed several concerns including whether it met safety standards claiming the country had an experimental approach to expeditions. one former ocean gate employee claims he was wrongfully terminated for raising safety concerns and calling for more rigorous safety checks. back to you. >> brian: all right. thanks so much, todd. >> ainsley: on monday, when this story, when we were reporting on this story, i thought well, we have three days. we have three days before the oxygen runs out. let's find these people before thursday morning. and here we are. >> brian: yeah, pete, 5:00 to 6:00 a.m. and they say the numbers should be running out. oxygen running out. they are, of course, expelling carbon dioxide, too. you have got figure the knocking gives everybody hope. the knocks has not subsided, pete, they also have not been able to find the vessel. >> pete: yeah, can you imagine? can you imagine? ainsley, to your point, here we

are, maybe just hours left of oxygen, all can you do is pray, pray for them and hope that somehow that knocking that they hear, it's interesting, i don't know enough about sonar you hear the knocking but apparently means you can't necessarily located it and pinpoint it. let's hope for a miracle at this point. that's what will be needed to find these five souls. >> ainsley: pete, it could be something on the titanic down on the floor knocking against the side of the wall. you don't know if it's these individuals. it is interesting some were reporting it was happening every 30 minutes. so wendy rush is the wife of stockton rush the ceo on this vessel a and -- she is the grea, great granddaughter of two first class passengers on the titanic in 1912. isidore and ida strouse among the 1800 people who died. they were married for 40 years. she refused to get on the life boat. she decided to stay with her husband. they were depict in the movie titanic, the elderly couple who remained in bed together.

>> pete: i remember that scene. >> ainsley: james cammeron's movie. >> brian: come to real life. >> ainsley: imagine how she feels if she loses her husband and great, great-grandparents in the same spot in. >> brian: amazing too how many people came out this ocean gate vessel had problems. not the most investigated equipment. some people refused to get on it. when you have the guy who owns it, who runs it, and he is actually below the surface, it's hard to get caught up in mistakes that were made when he is paying the ultimate price. but the ocean gate ceo last year addressed the worry of the titan submarine being able to return to the surface. he says, basically, life is full of risks. you can sit on your couch and things wouldn't happen to you but you take risks. and this one we don't even know the answer to yet but the only way to go up is to make sure they go up unimpeded and if something impedes their way no way of getting out from under it, for example, a ridge or a net, pete.

>> pete: it would have to happen extremely quickly at this point, brian, considering the timeline. but, if i was getting -- even if it was experimental with the ceo of the company, i would feel pretty confident that this is the best vessel or the most properly guided tragically not the case when you are doing this and going down 12,000 feet you know there are risks involved. these are explorers and risks are worth taking if it means it will help other exexplorers in the future. a moscow court rejecting evan gershkovich's appeal spoj charges arrived in court wearing t-shirts and genes standing behind that glass enclosure. gershkovich was arrested back in march. he is accused of cleaning military secrets and the "wall street journal" strongly deny those claims. the u.s. government claimed him

wrongfully detained and demand his immediate release. >> brian: his parents was in the courtroom. they were from the soviet union left in 197 #. very familiar with russia. really liked russia. he did write a great column a couple of days before he was picked up in a restaurant saying how bad the russian economy is and how much they are suffering through the sanctions two days later the he gets out is exchange, pete. >> pete: exactly. unfortunately when i look through that glass and i see him if you look through the eyes of vladimir putin, he sees a bargaining chip, not a reporter doing work. considering the war ongoing. this is something sadly a human life in between it vladimir putin used to his benefit.

an appeal like this never -- unfortunately never had a chance and vladimir putin knows it. and we hope evan can stand strong. >> brian: only one viktor bout is he wrong. exchange for a basketball player. we don't have anybody else. we might have to detain somebody detained in another country get them out and swap it. if we do that what is going to stop two or three more. by the way, how unbelievable is it this is the one guy who actually liked russia. chose the beat, wanted to report over there this is how he is rewarded. >> he mentioned his parents were from russia. didn't he grow up in pennsylvania? i believe his parents live in pennsylvania. >> yeah. i know they are happy to be out of the soviet union. >> ainsley: he speaks both languages, he was the perfect guy to report on the russian news but, unfortunately, now he is locked up. >> brian: now to this, top house lawmakers set to discuss next steps today following a special counsel john durham testimony on capitol hill. >> ainsley: durham making it

clear that the fbi ignored hillary clinton's plan to link former president donald trump to russia. >> pete: didn't even bother to mention it. lucas tom lingson joins us with the latest. >> day long hearing in washington testimony by special counsel john durham into the trump-russia probe revealing the genesis behind it was hillary clinton's campaign. >> another aspect of our findings concerned the fbi's failure to sufficiently scrutinize information it received or to apply the same standards to allegations it received about the clinton and trump campaigns. as our report details, the fbi was too willing to accept and use politically funded and uncorroborated opposition research such as the steele dossier. it did so even after the president of the united states, the fbi, and cia directors and others received briefings about intelligence suggesting there

was a clinton campaign plan underway to stir up a scandal tying trump to russia. >> the clinton campaign scandal he says. now, durham says some fbi agents had to apologize to him for their conduct into this investigation into donald trump. >> mr. durham, in your report and again here today you said your findings and conclusions are sobering you unpack more what that means? why do you say sobering? >> i have had any number of fbi agents who i have worked with over the years, some are retired, some are still in place, who have come to me and apologized for the manner in which that investigation was undertaken. i take that seriously. >> now, many democrats came out swinging. durham had a few counter punches of his own. >> you had a good reputation, that's why the two democrats supported you. but the longer you hold on to mr. barr and this report that mr. barr gave you as special counsel, your reputation will be damaged. as everybody's represent takes who gets involved with donald

trump is damaged. he is damaged goods. >> my concern about my reputation is with the people ohio respect and my family and my lord. and i'm perfectly comfortable with my reputation with them. >> now, durham received an applause for that answer when asked if he thinks the justice department should be defunded, durham said he didn't think defunding any police made any sense, guys. >> brian: lucas, thanks so much. i don't know how much you were able to watch. i was trying to do it while doing the radio show yesterday, but i was glued to it. i read the durham report. there's a lot in there but, you know, pete, in particular, they are saying well, he didn't subpoena comey when he wouldn't testify. he didn't hillary clinton when she wouldn't testify. he didn't get mccabe to testify. but a lot of these guys already on the record anyway. we saw their text messages. we saw where they were from. i just focus on this, in terms of justice, these guys going to jail losing their job, lisa page and others, case female, that's one thing. i just want everybody to

understand the cost of tens of millions of dollars and international prestige poisoning the relations with russia which don't usually need much help with vladimir putin in charge to a point that might be turning back. this whole thing should have been stopped when it was launched in july. it was discovered by everybody in september they delegitimized him for four years through an investigation they know never should have started. think of all the times john brennan and james clapper hopped on the respective networks and talked about how corrupt and how he is an agent of vladimir putin and think about how many careers were blown up because of this. and think about how many people were working for president trump that ended up having all types of different problems with the law, none related to this from roger stone to paul manafort eastern connections.

michael flynn he had nothing to hide. fbi, if you want to come over and ask me a question, you can. as i'm reading, this listening to him. that's the story. and this guy has gotten awards from eric holder and janet reno, hardly right wing zealots, pete. >> pete: yeah. this should be splashed across the top a 1 of every major newspaper in the country. of course, it won't be, because for every reason, brian, you just laid out, this is effectively a political espionage a word i don't like intentionally for political benefit. i agree with you, there is more he could have done. he could have run sharper and harder at certain people to get them on the record or subpoena, i actually think an investigation where neither side is completely happy is probably an above board investigation like john durham took a very long time, took a lot of people and came to the conclusion this was made up by political opponents and rank and file agents were hood winked, never into the origins of it, so many

people dug earnestly when the people at the top knew it was bunk at the beginning there should be accountability for that there won't be. at loos we get to learn about it, without house republicans, ainsley, we might not know the report wouldn't come out but you certainly wouldn't have hearings like this. >> ainsley: absolutely. if we didn't have it we have heard these political candidates now saying that if we didn't have some of these individuals, these republicans chairing these committees, we didn't have the power in the house, then we wouldn't know about any of this. durham said we interviewed the first supervisor of crossfire investigation, the operational person. we showed them the intelligence information and he indicated he had never seen it before. then he said he immediately became emotional. he got up and he left the room with his lawyer. he spent some time in the hallway and then he came back. and jim jordan said so, he didn't know about this information. they kept it from him. and durham said the information was kept from him. then he said in july of 2016, john brennan, head of the cia, realized the significance of all

this information. he quickly told barack obama, who was president at the time, he told joe biden, who was vice president and top national security officials. they forwarded this information to james comey and to peter strzok. and the subject line was crossfire hurricane. but nothing came of it. and then how many times did we see comey go on tv and say that trump had colluded with russia? >> brian: and that the dossier was real. he had no idea. i don't know if it's real or not. i can't tell you if it's real or not. remember? that was totally disingenuous. that's why people have to pay attention airing 9 to noon middle the week tough for the average american to digest it. many people don't sit there and say i have a 400 page will durham report make the television lower we have busy lives. >> ainsley: adam schiff wouldn't let him talk. several democrats asking him questions that didn't even relate to this investigation. he would say that's not what i was investigating. that's not what i'm investigating. i'm sorry that's not what i was investigating. >> pete: it's true.

you mentioned, brian, folks running to cable news and talking about what they saw behind the curtain. one of those was adam schiff. breathlessly, he had the evidence, brian, he was going to show us the evidence as soon as he possibly could that donald trump was a russian agent. he said it time and time again. durham confirms he was making it up and lying in real time so he was censured by the house last night. 213 to 209, which is the second most adamant thing the house can do to say hey, we disapprove of your conduct as a member of congress let alone the chairman of the house intel committee. this is what happened when the speaker of the house gaveled down the vote. how did democrats respond to their colleague being censured? well, watch. >> this vote, the yeas are 213 and the nays are 209 with six answering present. the resolution adopted. [chanting] >> motion to consider on the table. [gavel] >> house will be in order.

[cha [. >> will representative schiff present himself in the well? [ applause ] [cheers] [. >> you to my republican colleagues who introduced this resolution, i thank you. you honor me with your empty, you flatter me with this falsehood. you, who are the authors of a big lie about the last election, must condemn the truth tellers and i stand proudly before you. your words tell me that i have been effective in the defense of our democracy, and i am grateful. >> brian: you are a liar. everything you said was a lie. leaking was your other great display of expertise. and for him to sit up there has got no choice. the embarrassment must be overwhelming. for people to rally around a guy

that consistently lied over the last three and a half years and constantly said illegitimate president was elected by the russians. yeah. did the russians play a role in the election? a tiny one like they do in almost every one. a couple million dollars worth of facebook ads doesn't flip an election against hillary clinton. but you listen to him and the leaks and real time don jr.'s testimony, he would go out on a break and next things you know it's in the "the washington post" report and cnn standups. and everything that he said, nothing came true. and believe it or not, ainsley, he is going to be running for senate. and he says, yeah, my time is short here. i will be the next -- i will replace senator feinstein. that's what he wants. >> ainsley: censure is one step below expulsion. he has to appear in the well of the chamber and be confronted by mccarthy and get a talking to. >> pete: yeah, embarrassment would require shame and adam schiff is shameless and willing to lie bore b. whatever he needs to which is why he would make a great candidate for the senate

of california. he would have to explain away what great state they have there. wonderful conditions the people are living under there and why everyone wants to move away because it's so great. i'm sure he will line up perfectly. >> brian: his biggest fear is senator feinstein being expelled early because she obviously can't do this job at all that would mean gavin newsom has pledged to put in an african-american woman. so, that would exclude him. he wants to go and win a primary. >> ainsley: is that why feinstein refuses to step down? >> brian: we don't know. i'm not really sure. >> pete: nobody knows. >> brian: meanwhile, up next, a weather alert. severe weather strikes the southwest with flash flooding, massive hail and tornadoes move through colorado and texas. janice dean is tracking it. >> ainsley: plus swimmer riley gaines taking her fight for fairness to capitol hill. >> what message does this send to women, to young girls who are denied of these opportunities so easily their rights to privacy and safety thrown out. window to protect a small

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>> ainsley: we are back with a fox weather alert. four people dead after a tornado tore through the small town of matador, texas. the twister injuring nine others. 100,000 texans are without power this morning after storm winds downed the power lines across that state. several twisters touching down in colorado and nearly 90 people hurt after being battered by hail that swept through the red rocks concert venue. tropical storm bret is strengthening with winds now up to 70 miles per hour as it closes in on the islands in the eastern caribbean area. so let's check in with our senior meteorologist janice dean for our fox weather forecast. janice? >> janice: that was tropical depression number 4 which is going to going cindy. take a look across the maps many storm reports including tornadoes that have caused deaths in parts of texas.

so yet another day of severe weather. and look at this. 97 mile-per-hour winds in houston yesterday. strongest wind gusts recorded since 1969. the airport hitting 100 degrees. we are going to set records again today for del rio, texas. yesterday, highest temperature ever recorded. this is extreme weather many across texas. we have the potential for stronger storms for parts of the rockies, as well as the gulf coast, the southeast, and the mid-atlantic where we are dealing with heavy rainfall and the potential for flooding. there's bret. there's tropical depression number four, soon to become cindy. it's incredible that we have these storms right now so early in the season far out in the atlantic. we have a hurricane warning in effect for st. lucia, tropical storm warnings as well as the storm continues to move westward. we will need to track it over the next couple of days. there is tropical depression number 4. that's going to come close, we think, to the eastern seaboard, but it's probably going to curve touted sea. again, we will have to watch that and then the rain for the

eastern seaboard up towards the mid-atlantic and the northeast over the next couple of days could cause the potential for flooding. lots to talk about. fox weather.com. we'll keep you updated on all of the above that we just discussed. carley, i'm going to toss it over to you for more headlines. >> janice, thank you so much. check out this video coming into the newsroom. a new bus load of migrants has been dropped off in front of vice president kamala harris' residents in washington, d.c. fox news getting exclusive footage of migrants reportedly transferred from texas. volunteers quickly moving the group of about 30 people, half of which were children from one bus to another. the bidens welcoming indian prime minister modi ahead of tonight's state dinner. the visit sparking backlash from some democrats. members of the squad are planning to boycott modi's address to congress. alexandria ocasio-cortez saying this ahead of the speech, quote we should not give this honor to individuals with deeply troubling human rights records,

particularly for whom individuals our own state department has concluded are engaging in systemic human rights abuses of religious minorities. those are your headlines, guys. over to you. >> ainsley: thank you so much, carley. yesterday on outnumbered we were talking about riley gaines and we had watched her testimony on capitol hill. and she got emotional. she was crying at one point talking about walking into the locker room and seeing lia thomas exposed and seeing a male genitalia in the women's bathroom and how uncomfortable that made her feel. how she takes off her swimsuit in front of all of the girls and she doesn't want a man, a biological man in the locker room with her. this is all because the biden administration has this amendment to expand title ix to include regulations on transgender issues in our schools. listen to how riley gaines describes competing against leah thomas. >> by allowing thomas to

displace female athletes on the poll and the podium the ncaa intentionally and explicitly discriminated on the basis of sex. although the ncaa claimed it acted in the name of inclusion its policies excluded title ix was passed to protect. in addition to being forced to give up our awards and titles and opportunities, the ncaa forced me and my female swimmers to share a locker room with thomas. a 6-foot 422-year-old male equipped with and exposing male genitalia. let me be clear about this. we were not forewarned we would be sharing a locker room. no one asked for our consent and we did not give our consent. and i will set the scene a locker room is not a place of modesty. undressing and fully exposed and forced to take off our swimsuit in front of a man doing the exact same thing. if nothing else, i truly hope how you can see this as a violation of our right to privacy and how some of us have felt uncomfortable, embarrassed

and even traumatized by this experience. senator durbin, in your opening statement, you had mentioned that what message does it send to trans individuals? and my comment to that is what message does this send to women, to young girls who are denied of these opportunities so easily their rights to privacy and safety thrown out of the window to protect a small population, protect one group as long as they are happy? what about us? >> brian: what about us? you know what kind of dedication it takes to be a top division one swimmer. riley gaines has won 12 ncaa tournament meets, she san all-american swimmer. graduates, was going to be a dentist. but, when this starts happening. when she starts getting beat on the podium she realizes and does a few interviews and sees the backlash and support this is a hot issue. i'm putting my life on hold to go bat for other women, which used to be a very popular thing to do i always thought. i also thought a great analogy, pete, was the serena williams

analogy basically serena williams lose to the 200th ranked player in the world and best ranked tennis player ever. that's just a fact that she is not under dispute. these democratic senators to pretend that transgender rights trump all female rights and then there is really no difference between men and women is a joke. >> pete: it's a joke but they can't answer the question. the head of the human rights campaign we will play it later on in the program was asked repeat ily are there biological differences between men and women tried to cite that as an example it was pointed out that the 203rd ranked male player in tennis beat the william sisters that does not mean they are not phenomenal tennis players there are biological differences. riley gaines is the best activist are reluctant activists those who weren't looking for spotlight. elite performer who saw the injustice and now has been able to articulate what some people think. ainsley, you mentioned it. the reason this is important is

not because we are grousing about ncaa sports and coicial male to gets in the pool with females. it's that the biden administration is pushing new regulations that will push these types of standards into middle schools and high schools across the country. so now you have a transitioning 13-year-old who wants to go in the other locker room and the school will have no recourse to push back on it based on the policies this administration wants. so this is not just a cable news topic. this is a topic that could be coming to a school district near you if they get their way. 51 years after title ix was passed, which was supposed to solidify women's sports and make sure it wasn't discriminated against. they're finding a way to undo it. >> ainsley: everyone deserves respect and they can live the way they want to. this is america. when it comes to sports and you are putting our children in jeopardy, that's when parents start to stand up. look at north carolina, there is peyton mcnabb, a volleyball player. she was injured in the face by a transgender athlete who spiked the ball, hit her face, she had

a concussion and affected her life she says permanently injured forever. and look at caitlyn jenner he is against trans athletes playing women sports as well. all right, pete. what's coming up? >> pete: riley gaines will be joining us #:00 a.m. eastern time. don't miss it. race to the white house is on 2024 ongoing. coming quick. i'm here in nashville talking to voters about who they like sore far in the horseal race. >>

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and to know where you came from. doesn't that look like your papa? that's your great grandfather. it's like opening a whole 'nother world that we did not know existed. you finally have a face to a name. we're discovering together... it's been an amazing gift. >> brian: we are back with a news alert and not good. a moscow court denying gershkovich appeal. being held on espionage charges which is a joke. he arrived in court wearing a t-shirt, jeans, standing behind a glass enclosure accused in march of military secrets. he denies those claims.

u.s. demanding his immediate release. >> ainsley: making the witch for 2024 heating up. >> created the machine. of the oil was starting, we were energy independent. we were within four months of energy dominance. we were going to be supplying all of the natural gas and oil to europe. the infrastructure was there the oil guys were there. we were going to make so much money as a country i got done. it was all drop. they are getting ready to drill and biden ended it. >> the radical left and their ideology is a problem like a cancer metastasizing across our country. the culture of grievance is pervasive around this country. i want to be the president who stands up to the radical left and says no more. >> when he they're i trying toy inject matters of gender ideology into a kindergarten or first grade classroom, just understand that is a culture war but that's a culture war being waged by the left against parents and kids.

all we're doing in florida is having the temerity to fight back, to protect the integrity of the education for our kids, to protect parents' rights. >> president xi is the strongest, most powerful dictator that china has had in decades. trust me, there's no way he doesn't know what's going on all the time everywhere. it is incredibly naive for biden to think that. and that's why china thinks we are so weak. >> brian: so, nikki haley dealing with lary lehner you pe, you are having breakfast with friends at pancake pantry. do you want to walk around or are you a little tired? >> pete: i'm a little tired. i'm going to stay seated this hour, brian. as more people come in i will walk around. we are at the pancake pantry here in nashville talking to the folks. i have got a chance to sit down next to jacqui and charlie, it's their 58th wedding anniversary, congratulations, take a trip every year, from alabama.

they happen to be in nashville this week. you couldn't hear the soundbite but there was a bunch of candidates on fox talking about issues that matter to them in the 2024 republican primary, who do you like, sir? >> well, i like trump. i believe he did a good job while he was president. his policies are right on track with my values. this country is goings in the wrong direction. hopefully he can become president again and stop the corruption and all that kind of stuff in this country. >> pete: plenty of that going on right now. do you agree? >> i do. there are things i might not like about trump, but i think it's going to take him to get us back where he was when he was in office. >> pete: the fun part about this did i ask you who you were going to say before this segment? >> i forget. >> pete: did i ask you what candidate you like. >> no.

>> pete: fun part about this you throw the mic in front of people and ask them who they like who do you like in 2024. >> i'm definitely a trumpster. >> pete: you are? >> yes, yes. >> how about you, sir? >> definitely going to go with trump. democrats symbolism over substance. with trump we had secure borders and things that made difference in our economy. >> pete: did i ask you guys how were voting for? >> no you, you didn't. >> pete: that's the fun part. you never know. let the folks decide. that looks really good on your play of the by the way. everybody tells me pancake pantry is the place to go if you are in nashville. we are here all morning long. we will be asking about candidates and durham. ask about hunter and his sweetheart deal here in nashville. i'm sure folks have thoughts on that, as well. time for pancakes for me and toss it back over to you, ainsley. >> ainsley: outline four of them for trump. >> brian: ains l and i speculatg not just doing a diner shoot. you are hosting. would you wear a jacket. would you dress like an anchor and you decided to dress kind of

like an anchor. >> ainsley: brian won, pete. carley and i predicted you would roll your sleeves up and tattoos would be showing. >> pete: i wanted to wear a hat and t-shirt but i have too much respect for the program so brian, i'm with you. >> ainsley: too much respect today you do. usually you have the rolled up sleeves. you are doing a great job. >> pete: i know. >> ainsley: check back in with you in a little while. now to a fox news alert. serious news. experts racing against time oxygen in the submersible is expected to run out in less than an hour. our next guest has made the dive down to the titanic wreckage 22 times. what passengers may be experiencing deep below the surface. we'll tell you joint pain was killing my creativity. blue-emu gave me my hobbies back. it's the arthritis pain relief our joints rely on. blue-emu, it works fast, and you won't stink.

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♪ >> brian: fox news alert. crews have less than an hour to find the missing titanic submersible as oxygen is expected to run out. we are learning more about the oceangate the company behind the vessel once faced lawsuit from employee who said he was fired for raising safety concerns. >> ainsley: friend of one of the missing passengers first man to die making the dive 22 times. good morning, dick. >> good morning to you both. >> ainsley: i'm so sorry i know

you are friends with the french diver who apparently has been to the titanic 35 times. my question is we keep hearing that no one can get down there that far to where this submersible is to detect what's happened yet, i know you have been down there 22 files. he has been down there 35 times. do you just not go all the way down? why can't we get down there? >> we can get down there no problem at all. there is no existing submersible that's certified to go down there. so we use work class rovs to die to those depths there is six deployed on the sea bed around the area. >> brian: and those are unmanned? >> yeah. they are tether mounted go over the side of the mother ship, they will pay out a massive umbilical cord system and swim themselves. they are powered through the umbilical the lights and eyes and the hands of the operators

who are sitting in the rov shack on board the mother ship. >> brian: do you think it's hung up on something? is that your best guess? >> so, let's look at this. an hour and 4 a 5 into the dive. the dive profile conventionally is a pretty straightforward glide. we know the temperatures. we know the tides and currents. so they should have a rough idea where the landing place would have been. an hour and 45 losing communication, you're south of 2,000, 2 and a half thousand meters deep. there is a number of hypotheses here the simple two outcomes are that the vessel either imploded due to a structural change or failure and lack of integrity or simply their communication system was lost on propulsion due to a power failure. >> ainsley: if that happened though, if it imploded wouldn't

we see debris at the top of the surface and why do you think the subdidn't rise up to the surface? >> she has drop weights, which have to be manually released from inside. by a person or a crew member, pilot principally and there is very little that would come to the surface at that depth. everything pretty much goes south down to the sea bed. >> brian: when people bring up the vessel being unsafe. what do you think? >> i'm not really qualified to mechanical ability. the titan has dived to this depth before numerous times. but on our guides we use the russian and the french submersibles which is a deep water exploration submersible. it's round in structure. sphere structure titanium ball effectively. pressure doesn't like round

things. pressure likes flat lines and corners. and the titan is a tube, basically. and so potentially there could be integrity issue there. but i'm sure she was 4,000 meters i'm told. but it i don't know about her. i never have been inside her or seen her up front and close. >> ainsley: dick, we have all been praying for the passengers. i pray they feel the presence of god underneath the water in there with them. i'm sure they are terrified if they're still alive. how does this end? >> so, we have got find them, the vessel, we have got find out what happened and we're ever hopeful we will find the vessel it has some people alive inside it. you will recall the school boys and cave system all hope was given up and found and rescued. a different scenario, of course, they are not under water. i think the biggest challenge is finding the vessel, finding the titan and then managing and

engineering a solution to secure it, to be able to bring to to surface is which is another two and a half hour transition because you can't access the vessel in the water, of course, the plus side is they are diving at one atmosphere so the ambient pressure inside is the air we breathe right now so there is no decompression requirements. but the air they have been breathing would be toxic by now you rebreathe it go through the scrubbers, carbon monoxide starts to build up. once get to the surface it has to be cracked opened, screws and bolts taken off and top plate taken off and recover. >> brian: thank you so much for giving your expertise we will talk to you again, thank you. >> appreciate it. thank you. >> brian: meanwhile, more "fox & friends" right after the break

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voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪ ♪ >> brian: all right. welcome back, everybody. i think pete is going to be with us in a matter of moments. a few months ago though, pete was gifted the most patriotic pair of shoes on the market. let's watch. >> i got some shoes in the mail, pretty cool. they are called glory shoes.

>> rachel: sure they are not called pete? >> pete: i'm going to wear them for the rest of the show. >> ainsley: they are so pretty designed in the wake of september 11th attacks. the glory shoe is what they are called. created to honor american heroes and to support veterans and their families. >> brian: pete, i don't know if you are with us yet. we are all wearing edition now. >> pete: i got them. >> brian: here with more morning shoes. pete, participate president and founder of rdc shoe company davis. pete, why don't you start with the first question for darren. >> pete: darren, where did the idea come from. tell us about the glory shoes and what you are doing with them. >> they originated after 9/11. three days after 9/11 my wife actually took a sharpy marker and fabric paint we had a victory show from rd. everyone much wanted shoe we didn't have a lot of options at the time. we housed them for a while and then we waited for the right cause. and we met woody williams the

last surviving medal of honor recipient from world war ii got his medal for the battle of 50e78 mow jet streamma. he helped this foundation. i met many more medal of honor recipients after that. i met a daughter of a medal of honor recipient that was being memorialized look, it's sad that a lot of people forget them once they are gone. so, in every box as you know, pete, we put one of their medal of honor recipient's cards. >> pete: really cool. >> so everybody can understand their story. >> ainsley: who is that in the picture with you. >> rdc stands for regina my wife i'm darren and my son chase. that's was at gary's funeral in rochester, newark where i'm from. >> what is woody's story. >> he was the last recipient of honor world war ii got his each mow jima. most medal of honors ever received. and i think woody was one of the lucky they call them the lucky 1

that survived and received the medal from harry truman. he got his medal from a flame thrower for four hours he took out seven pillboxes on the battle of each mow jima. >> brian: it's it will $10 goes back to the woody helps gold star families and society to help with their programs. >> brian: they are amazing. so comfortable. >> this is the new shoe coming out. >> pete: look at those new ones those are beauty. >> coming out hopefully by christmas. >> ainsley: r.d.c. shoes.com. >> pete: i need a pair. >> send me a pair i have got to have them. >> janice: very comfortable by the way. >> ainsley: thank you, darren. >> brian: second hour of "fox & friends" starts right now. >> moments ago a french deep sea