>> such a nice guy. >> we didn't bring our instruments to work today. thank you so much. we'll see you soon. >> he sounds musical. >> tomorrow we have tyler farr on our show for our all american concert series. >> on radio, we will vacuum around you. >> bye, everyone. >> bill: good morning, an update on the missing submersible. one rov has reached the sea floor and we're holding on to hope now. dana has the day off today. the team is back together. the team at last. how are you, nice to see you. >> always good to see you both. >> bill: thank you for saying yes to the alarm clock this morning. >> i bound out of bed to "america's newsroom." i can't wait to be with bill. all good. a lot going on.

>> bill: a plot to get to. >> shannon: this vehicle that bill mentioned has now made it to the floor of the ocean and we talk about these banging noises. they say they are in the area where they were heard. although other people say sometimes the sounds echo from very great distances. so it is tough to say. this is part of the last ditch effort to rescue these passengers in the final hours. >> bill: great question coming up. the vessel went missing sunday with a dive to the titanic. the search has grown roughly twice the size of the state of connecticut at this point. >> martha: the experts say the sub may have drifted. it depends on what its navigational ability is at this point whether it has battery and technology to control it in any direction. they also say it may have attached or hooked onto part of the wreckage. >> there are many pieces of the

stern, the bow of the titanic and all sorts of pieces that fell off during that wreck. that's one of the problems in trying to find the submersible on the sea floor. it is like looking for a needle in a hay stack. >> bill: five people are on board. the oxygen supply is expected to run out this morning. the u.s. coast guard says this is still a rescue mission and family and friends are not giving up. >> so we've got to find them, the vessel. we have to find out what happened and we're ever hopeful we'll find the vessel that has some people alive inside it. you will recall the thai school boys in the cave system and they were found. >> martha: we begin with mike tobin, who is in st. john's newfoundland where the story

began. hi, mike. >> martha, time is of essence as we're in the final hours for the potential for survival inside the titan submersible that went missing sunday with the potential of four days of air inside. still as you mentioned the u.s. coast guard captain frederic is not giving up hope of finding survivors. what we see to the ships to the southeast the search is still very much on. in the last hour, the coast guard announced they have a french vessel launched on rov. prior to that announcement that the canadian vessel horizon arctic deployed an rov that reached the sea floor. sounds described as banging were detected yesterday in 30 minute intervals indicating something natural did not generate the sound. discouraging is you have sophisticated secondnology and

they can't pin.the sound. the search area is gigantic, twice the size of connecticut. the co-founder of horizon maritime services that operates the ships from which the submersible was launched says they're hopeful. >> the equipment that's been mobilized for this is the finest in the world. the most capable in the world. we have to hold out hope. i think as you are aware, there is still life support available on this submersible and continue to hold out hope until the very end. >> the system has arrived in newfoundland. the deep ocean salvage system. a big crane mounted on a ship. a ship hasn't been selected to mount it. the clock is ticking. the port here in st. john's is the port from where the original

expedition initiated. you first have to find the submersible. >> bill: want to bring in captain david marcay. trying to get some answers. i want you to see some of the assets on scene now and there are many more and more coming, in fact now. we have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 now on the screen that you can see here. of the rov, if it can reach that depth which is reportedly at 12,000 plus feet, how does that rov even find the sub? >> the good thing about this particular rov is that its power comes down a cable we use to control it. it doesn't need to keep coming back to the surface to keep chargeded. it can stay down there persistently and crawling along the floor being controlled by someone on the ship using a joystick or looking at a little screen that has lights and a

camera. some also have side scan sonar. i don't know that this one has it. it would allow it to search a larger area more rapidly. because there is so much other stuff on the bottom you need to put eyes on it to confirm this is the mini sub and not just another piece of the titanic. >> bill: you know how dark it is down there. can you see more than five feet in front of you? >> barely. it's pitch black. the midnight zone we call it. but these rovs do have powerful cameras typically designed for research or work under water oil wells or cables. >> bill: midnight zone is a new one. 20,000 pounds for this submersible. even if you find it, how do you raise it given the weight and the pressure? >> that was devastating news i

just heard. the navy has a system that stands for flyaway deep ocean recovery system and it is designed to be flown there. the airplanes that arrived a couple days ago, i had thought that it was already on a ship on its way out there. that's the system with the big cable on a spool that would go down and that would be able to pull the submarine up pretty rapidly, maybe half an hour or an hour once it's found. in the absence of the system, we need a really heavy duty rov which you can get to the mini sub and piggyback it up to the surface. if the rov is found clear of the debris field, that's maybe still possible. but if it's lodged somehow in the propeller or got too close and stuck underneath an over hang i'm really quite fearful for the recovery.

>> bill: appreciate the candor in the answer there. you are giving hope that if you locate it you can lift it out of the depths of the ocean. last question, when you talk about the sounds, how do you differentiate those between manmade or a mammal or whale or in the ocean itself. and how do you pinpoint the location as to where that sound emanates? >> so these sounds are being picked up by sonar buoys, listening devices. airplanes drop these. they are flying along and drop them every 30 seconds or minutes. if you hear it on one, then hey, we know it's in the vicinity of this one. if you start to hear it on 2 or 3 from the time difference in the arrival and direction, now we can intersect those and we now get an area, if it's good, maybe the size of a football

field, maybe the size of a shopping mall parking lot and we think the sound is coming from that area. the problem is we've sent a bunch of ships that make sound to the area where we're looking for specific sound. someone doing maintenance in one of the engine rooms on one of the ships could be making banging noises detected and sounds like human. >> bill: thank you, you are a terrific guest. thank you, we'll be in contact with you as the story progresses. holding on to hope. the midnight zone is something you have to think about at that depth and that cold and that dark. >> martha: this question of whether or not it is hooked onto a piece of debris from the ship raises questions why that would have triggered a shutdown of the system. the communication, battery and all that, right? there are two scenarios, either there was a catastrophic disaster that shut all of that communications down, because

normally they were able to do communication. if it's unhooked it seems unlikely. who knows. our hearts go out to these people and their families. >> bill: also this from last night if you were watching on the floor of the house. check it out. >> martha: house democrats lashing out after republicans voted to censure congressman adam schiff. the house floor erupted into chaos last night. democrats heckling and interrupting speaker kevin mccarthy who kept his cool through this situation. watch this. >> ayes 213, nays 209 with six answering present, the resolution adopted without objection the motion to consider to be laid on the table.

house will be in order. [people chanting] >> resolution 521 the house has resolved that the house of -- i have all night. >> martha: that was the second round of trying to censure adam schiff by the republicans. this one went through. he was censured for his role in relentlessly promoting the russia collusion narrative against former president trump as if he had already investigated it, weighed all the evidence and found him guilty over and over and over again. it was mostly along party lines. >> bill: 242 cable news appearances within one calendar year which is a lot nor anyone. anna paulina luna is the congresswoman from tampa, new to congress. she headed up the censure. she tried it once and was going to fine him.

a lot of republicans didn't like that. she revised it and was successful. talked to jesse. >> he will go down in hills tree, someone that tore apart our country. exploited and abused his position of power and responsible for one of the biggest fraudulent investigations into any president in the history of the united states. i think regardless of what he is saying it is weighing heavily on him. one of a few to be censured in u.s. history. >> bill: schiff says he wears it as a badge of honor and will likely use it if he is the u.s. senate candidate in california sometime soon on the democratic party. >> martha: then they start evidence chanting santos. how can you censure schiff and not santos? >> bill: we're awaiting major rulings, martha.

u.s. supreme court bigies on the line. free speech. affirmative action, student loan plan. we could get some of those coming up at the top of the next hour. stand by about 15 minutes away. >> martha: close to wrapping up the session for the summer. bombshell evidence in the killing of four idaho college students. nancy grace on how it links suspect brian kohberger directly to the murder scene and where this case goes from here. >> bill: more states looking to bar transgender athletes from competing in women's sports. it is a fight they are willing to put up. we'll see if they can be successful and what it means in the fight for fairness. have a listen. >> to believe it's a non-issue or only happening in a certain area could not be further from the truth. i know this because i get the messages. i brought in ensure max protein with 30g of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. uh... here i'll take that. -everyone: woo hoo!

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believe will tell us a lot about what we know about the wuhan lab. michael shellenberger is hot on the trail and we'll talk to him coming up next hour right here. >> martha: a major breakthrough in the deadly stabbing of four university of idaho students and friends. the dna taken in a cheek swab from suspect bryan kohberger is a statistical match to the knife sheath that was found at the crime according to new court documents. nancy grace host of fox nation crime stories joins me now. always good to see you. thank you for being here. so we could put this number up on the screen that shows the likelihood that this is brian kohberger's dna and it is 5.37 october tillian times more likely than not that it's a match, nancy. >> well, you're right. that includes 270s, 5.37 is more

people than are on the planet. not only that, it's more people than have ever been on planet earth. and the way -- it gets very confusing explaining dna. it's confusing for lawyers. the only ones that can really get their mind around it are the scientists that conduct these tests. a simple way of telling a jury is that it's about one out of 5.37octillian that is kohberger's dna found at the sheath but in one of the bedrooms partially under her body and partially under a comforter placing him in my mind, at the scene of the four

murders. >> martha: it is very compelling evidence. you have to wonder, you know, when he realized -- this is a rhetorical question. we don't know the answer. when he realized that was gone, that he didn't have the sheath with him when he got back in the car, this alleged quadruple murderer. that was a huge mistake on his part and the background that we know about him is he study all of this very carefully. >> i've wondered that a lot. i traced his route. i rode it and stood there myself in the night as i believe he did. he could have gotten home in 9 or 10 minutes but drove a long circuitous and dark, dimly lit, no-light path home. i wonder when he got rid of the murder weapon if he threw it into a body of water when did it hit him where is the sheath? oh dear lord in heaven i left it behind. we also believed he returned to the scene. i wonder if it was to return the sheath.

this kind of dna evidence is damning. i wonder how the defense will explain a way his dna on a knife sheath at the scene. >> martha: it is a huge development in this case that they found that. now the dna testing is back. i want to ask you about another case, nancy. judge neumann who handled the murdoch trial in a skillful way. a way a lot of people, his closing when he looked right at alex murdaugh and talked about him seeing his wife and son nightly in his dreams. he said he feels sorry for alex murdaugh in an interview he did. let's watch a piece of this. >> i feel sorry for him. i cannot imagine him having a peaceful night knowing what he did. i'm sure if he had an opportunity to do it over again, he would never do it.

>> martha: what do you think of that, nancy? >> i met judge newman and he was on the bench, as you see him there, methodical, well thought out, merciful but he did not let his empathy for alex murdaugh get in the way of his empathy for the victims. he followed the letter of the law. so i firmly believe he did feel pity for murdaugh but it did not affect the sentence. >> martha: thank you very much. what a case that is as it continues with the mother adjunct related cases to play out in the future. thank you very much. >> bill: thanks, nancy. 24 past now. the leader of the world's biggest democracy about to arrive at the white house for a meeting with president biden. we're talking india, talking about 1.4 billion people that he represents. stay with us for that all-important visit there. plus we have fierce backlash out of beijing.

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ago from sarasota. brought out a lot of interesting points. we'll let you know as it goes. a lot of assets now over the open ocean and we hope for the best, martha, soon. >> martha: russia denies an appeal request from detained "wall street journal" reporter evan gershkovitch. he will have to wait until the end of august as he awaits his trial on espionage charges. alex hogan live in london with more with more on the story for us. >> another heavy blow for wall street reporter evan gershkovitch and family members in the courtroom today. 32-year-old appeared yet again in what is essentially a glass cage when he made his way into the courtroom. that court today denying his appeal against his extended detention meaning that he will remain in custody for another ten weeks until his trial. he only got to see and speak to his mom and dad through that glass box.

u.s. ambassador lynn tracy was not allowed inside the courtroom but spoke to reporters outside condemning this decision. >> such hostage diplomacy is unacceptable and we call on the russian federation to release him, as well as paul whalen, another u.s. citizen wrongfully detained. >> gershkovitch had an official credential from russia to report there. he is accused of spying and gather secret military information. the u.s. denies the charges declaring him wrongfully desand. in april his legal team appealed forward him to be held on house arrest until the trial and it was denied. if he is found guilty we know he could face up to 20 years behind bars. >> martha: we should bring them both home. >> bill: president biden apparently on the west coast this week calling chinese president xi a dictator.

that was at a fundraising event. china said this, they are an open political provocation. the president's remarks coming after secretary blinken met with the chinese leader in beijing trying to ease tensions with the nation's biggest rival. important relationship whether you like it or not. pu pu public we have our power panel here. thank you for appearing together, fellows. appreciate that. china said it is extremely absurd and extremely irresponsible. i guess congressman james, whether you like it or not you have to deal with china. what does it do to the relationship at the highest level? >> it starts at the top. i certainly didn't have on my bingo card president joe biden saying something that i agree with and intelligible calling xi a dictator. i fully support that line and i think that getting the entire country holding the ccp

accountable for its malign actions all over the world and united states is the first step to getting back on the right track. >> bill: i take your point. congressman ryan, a lot of people may agree with it. is it smart pool when it comes to politics? >> we have to be clear about the threat from china. they are our greatest challenge not just militarily but economically. we have to compete to bring jobs back to america that john and i are working on and compete with them to cut off the flow of deadly fentanyl that's pouring into districts like mine and those across the country. so absolutely he is a dictator and we need to compete with him in every dimension. that strength will help deter their provocations and insure peace and stability here in the country and across the world. >> bill: you guys are sensitive but he talked about the spy balloon. i think this is as descriptive as he has ever gotten. he said two box cars full of spy

equipment in it that he didn't know was there referring to president xi. congressman james, again, is this the way to do diplomacy with a man that you have to deal with? >> the first thing is to dealing with the problem to acknowledge that you have one. it is telling the truth. i think that this is a first step. we've been saying this in congress in a bipartisan manner established a committee to see exactly how china has been hurting us. now to have the president on board is a necessary first step. i think that blinken just left. the president is telling the truth. i think with congress looking out to protect the american people against the malign actions of the ccp in my state in particular forcing businesses like ford motor company and general motors to partner with entities of concern rather than building our own technology and supply chains and deploying our own american workforce is problematic.

as my friend congressman ryan said we have to compete to make sure america is the first choice both here and around the world. >> bill: you are doing this together and looks like a great program. you both went to west point together is that right? you guys have known each other a long time. we have a republican and democrat. you guys seem to get along. maybe contrary to what the american people saw on the floor of the house last night around dinnertime. nonetheless here you are. you are pushing for a bill to help veterans. what is it about in terms of apprenticeships for young men and women? >> and we were classmates and lived across the hall from each other. members from the class of 2004 of west point and we're here to not only work on the threats from china but to recognize, as i said, the economic competition. we have the whole as a nation mobilize in this competition and our bill led my by colleague mr.

james is making sure as veterans transition and we have both been through this, they get a good-paying jobs that helps them provide for their family and they can be proud of that starts to bring down the number of veteran suicides across the country, over 22 a day, absolutely unacceptable. and to show we can do that in a bipartisan way. to your point i'm proud of that and that's delivering for our constituents and fellow veterans. >> bill: part has to do with housing and tuition. you guys know that better than anyone. going back what, 19 years right now. who will be against this, congressman james? >> we'll make sure that this is a bipartisan effort and pat is humble. we couldn't do this if we didn't work together. a bipartisan effort for a nonpartisan issue. when it comes to taking care of our veterans we can all agree with it and why we're leading this effort. it is something that will help provide that bridge to prosperity for veterans not just

looking for skills and a passion for service but also provide the resource they need to get into these apprenticeship programs to not only address the labor crisis but to address the suicide crisis. we need more than just profession but purpose. smoothing the transition from combat or service out into the civilian world is essential. that should not be the cup of spite we fight when we get back home and we're doing everything we can to look out for our brothers and sisters. >> bill: who played the music louder back in the dorm? >> we were both studying all the time. >> yeah, right. >> bill: good answer. thank you, gentlemen, pat ryan and john james. democrat and republican doing things together >> martha: a great story. the nation's report card is out and it is pretty much a failure for public school students. what these really record low scores -- if this isn't a wake-up call, i don't know what

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>> nearly all participants expect it will appropriate to raise interest rates somewhat further by the end of the year. inflation pressures continue to run high and the process of getting inflation back down to 2% has a long way to go. >> bill: you got that. federal reserve chair telling lawmakers inflation is running hot and they don't like that. interest rates expected to rise again later this year to try to cool it down. the fed has already hiked rates ten times since march of last year. look at that graph. making the price of borrowing money everything from a car to a home a lot more expensive. inflation sticking around near

historic levels. that ultimately will shrink your paycheck's buying power. it is a bit of a riddle how to get a handle on this after we spent all that money. i don't know, do you have an answer? you follow this kind of stuff. >> martha: in polling no matter what people care about it still continues to be the thing they complain about the most is when they go shopping, things cost a heck of a lot more. that's the last thing to turn around. the fed will keep doing what they need to do in their mind but for the numbers to really come down the businesses have to be super confident they can lower them. >> bill: they say the election next year is pocketbook issues. right now they are right about that. >> martha: we'll see. >> bill: meet the mayor of dallas. >> the primary responsibility of any government is to protect its citizens. if dallas residents don't feel secure, our city's other objectives are guaranteed to fail. we prioritize public safety no

matter which way the national political winds blue. >> martha: our next guest is bucking the trend of cities seeing crime. arrests, murders, rapes all down double digits in dallas on his watch. here to tell us about it is the mayor erik johnson, the democrat mayor of dallas, good morning to you. good to see you. >> how are you? >> martha: i'm doing well. tell us how you are doing this. >> i tell you what, we have had tremendous success over the past two years, in fact, lowering everything form of violent crime the f.b.i. tracks. all forms of violent crime have fallen in dallas over the past two year and hopefully we'll end this year with three consecutive years of falling violent crime and it has to do with three main things. we have a great police chief. i think that's critical. you have to have the right person in that role.

someone that can inspire their department and make sure the morale is high. it's a tough job. i think that chief has to have a plan. a plan is something that's in writing and something that you can actually consult and look at to make sure you are actually staying on course. our plan involves hot spot policing. it involves focused deterrents and emphasizes some non-law enforcement-based strategies that are very important, remediating the blight in high crime areas, improving the lighting there. we have some violence interwrappings programs and summer safety pushing hard our youth into our summer programming that we have throughout the city and we've done something that no major city in the u.s. ever does. we dropped crime in the summer months. crime actually falls in dallas under this plan the past two years during the summer months. which is incredible. the last thing is

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violent for dallas. we had a year in that time frame with 500 murders in a year. i remember how traumatizing that violence was and how scared we were to live in a neighborhood where people our age who looked like us were being killed for their sneakers, being killed for starter jackets, walking home from school you could get shot in a drive-by. i never wanted to see my city go back to those days. when crime starts to tick up during the pandemic, i don't care who gets upset about this or what activists or what so-called leaders said, we were going to prioritize the safety of our people. i did stand up against defund the police and they protested outside of my house for a week. >> bill: one question on this. i heard a quote from you about my fellow mayors bow to the political pressure. you didn't. they either bowed to it because they were weak or they believed

it. what do you think about what they've done now? >> well look, i think here is the thing. i can't say what anyone was thinking when they made the decision. i have to look at the decisions that people make. that's what i'm talking about. i'm talking about what people actually did. i saw mayors and city councils across the country making arbitrary cuts to the police department to appease a movement, appease and activist community that didn't live in the cities in some cases where the violence was occurring. i refused to allow people who don't even live in our city to help me make about keeping my people safe. so i prioritize the people of dallas and we've been rewarded as a city with, again, going on three years now of falling violent crime in every major category that is tracked by the f.b.i., all of them. we're the only city in the united states in the top ten with that type of success.

>> martha: powerful record likely to lead to re-election if you're not careful. thank you very much. great to see you today. >> bill: thanks for having me. >> martha: affirmative action, election redistricting. student loan forgiveness. huge issues on the docket for the nation's highest court and we're waiting for those decisions to come down today live.

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everyone. some schools are getting it right. we have team coverage for you. william la jeunesse with a look at charter schools and the gains the students are seeing. first cb cotton live in new york to lay it out. >> students have returned to the classroom. many aren't rebounding according to the nation's report card. the national center for education statistics says math and reading scores are declining. average scores show 13-year-olds lost four points in reading and nine points in math tward to the the 2019 school year. math and reading scores returning to levels last seen in the 70s. the federal education group says declines first began in 2012 but became steeper since the pandemic. many parents have said following school shutdowns their kids have struggled to connect with the curriculum. a colorado math teacher says educators have to keep kids

engaged now that they're back in the classroom. >> our students are not doing well and we need to do something about it. what can i do to help you connect what you are passionate about already and build some sort of a passion or a love, at least, an application of using mathematics? >> education secretary released a statement about declining scores saying it will take years of effort and investment to reverse the pandemic's impact on learning and said the white house's pandemic relief funds have helped make strides on lost learning time. back to you. >> bill: something we can't allow to keep going in this direction. we have to change it somehow. we do a story about a stanford study suggesting students at charter schools are making academic gains and in most cases out performing public school students. we have a look at that live in l.a. william, what did you find out about that? >> stanford has done the study for 15 years. the first time in 2009 public

schools out performed charters, four years later tied. now academically charter school students are doing better. in both reading and mapth on standard statewide tests charter schools out performed public schools. charter school networks which operate multiple schools do better than stand aloans in reading and math. both types do better than traditional public schools and not true charter schools are skimming high achieving white students. they have a higher percentage of minorities and their low income students had higher academic gains than the same demographic in public schools. finally across 31 states studied, charter school gains outpaced public schools in both reading and math. on average charter school students achieved 16 added days of learning in reading and six more in math. >> that translates to more than

two extra weeks of school. imagine having your child go to school two extra weeks every year, year in and year out. that accumulates. >> charter school network schools did even better. their students 27 extra days of reading, 23 days in math. over public schools. all the data came in before the pandemic. it will be another four years before we have the same study. back to you. >> bill: numbers don't lie. thank you for that. william la jeunesse. brand-new hour begins now. fox news alert. the search for the missing sub intensifying as time continues to dwindle. coast guard officials say search and rescue efforts will continue throughout the day and they have a lot of assets in the area. the update comes as we learn more about ocean gate, the company behind the vessel and the potential red flags that may or may not have been ignored. big open question out there. bill hemmer, good morning today. dana has the day off on this thursday. big welcome back t