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and harris faulkner. also joining us, fox weather meteorologist amy freeze, and retired nypd inspector paul moreau. closed door testimony released yesterday, two irs whistle-blowers say officials at the justice department, fbi, and irs interfered with the tax fraud investigation against hunter biden. the whistle-blower said that the decisions in the case seemed to be, quote, influenced by politics. the shocking testimony also included a laundry list of tips, leaks and possible coverups that prevented hunter from facing more serious charges, along with evidence indicating that president biden was involved in his son's foreign business dealings. white house correspondent jackie hien rick has more details. >> the white house hasn't responded to the whistle-blower's allegation about a 2017 whatsapp message allegedly sent by hunter biden that would directly challenge

president biden's continued statement that he's never spoken to his son about his overseas business dealings, but we just got a new statement from the white house counsel's office responding to the whistle-blower's other allegations, u.s. attorney david weiss wanted to bring charges against hunter in california and d.c. and obtain special counsel status but biden appointed attorneys wouldn't allow it. they say he had full authority over deciding when, where, whether to bring charges, needed no further approval to do so, but the white house counsel's office denies president biden had any influence on his son's investigation. they're saying, quote, since he took office and consistent with his campaign promise that he would restore the independence in the justice department when it comes to decision making in criminal investigations. president biden has made clear this matter would be hand emd independently by the justice department under leadership of a u.s. attorney appointed by former president trump, free from any political interference by the white house, he has upheld that

commitment. but the whistle-blower's attorney says therein lies the challenge in proving his client's claims. >> the real challenge is department of justice denying that any of president biden's appointees, including u.s. attorneys in california, in the district of columbia, they say that they didn't block these charges from being brought. >> now, republicans on the house ways and means committee say that there were multiple examples of misconduct alleged by the two whistle-blowers. >> we saw that with countless examples that they used, how the department of justice intervened in the prosecution of hunter biden, they delayed, they divulged and denied numerous examples of where these investigators tried to go into further prosecution of hunter biden. >> earlier this week, the u.s. attorney in delaware

announced a plea agreement with hunter biden on two tax misdemeanors and a felony gun charge. he will enter his plea in late july, kayleigh. >> jackie, thank you. i think it is worth reviewing what president joe biden said about hunter's business dealings. let's listen to what he said. >> i never discussed a single thing about my son about anything having to do with ukraine. >> i never spoke with my son about his overseas business. i don't know what he was doing. i did not know he was on the board of that company. i never discussed my business on h or their business, my sons or daughters. i have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses, period. >> so he has been emphatic, harris. but has three references to dad sitting by hunter biden, we had the picture, they say there's a picture on hunter's laptop shows him sitting behind the wheel of his dad's

corvette on the same day it was sent and met a data puts him in close proximity to the delaware home, this is after he left office. >> i think it is also interesting that in the whistle-blower transcript we find out that there was a chill put on the investigation from inside and that there was pressure not to bring up dad and the big guy and to look into those allegations, so now it seems to me it is even more important we know what the president knew and when he knew it. >> yes. >> and it is even more important we know what role he would have played. i can't imagine you're vice president of the united states and your son is in a position that can always be problematic, anybody that has a child addicted to drugs knows wow, i have to keep my eye on that kid. he has a big job with an energy company in a country that wanted to be part of nato, but because of corruption couldn't get in. you don't have more

questions about that situation? this must be the most uncurious and unserious vice president in the u.s. history. i don't buy it. i think he is neither of those things. i just don't think we know the whole story. >> it's so true and the interference of the deep state is what's really interesting to me, paul. you worked on a lot of investigations, you have shappley overseeing the investigation saying he can't get the search warrant because of optics, he couldn't ask questions about the big guy. have you ever seen this? >> no. what we have to keep our eye on going forward is that there's going to be more skull duggary. there's a plea deal. we need to see the four corners of the plea deal because as long as the democrats have the white house and joe biden is there, doj is not going to move on this. so everybody is saying all right, if at some point the white house changes, maybe we can peel back

layers of the onion and find out what was going on. the problem is when you see the plea deal, if the prosecutor march develops into the plea deal all the stuff we are talking about, he will be double jeopardy's out, you won't be able to go after him. may be done if you call it a coverup, it may not entirely be done. the other thing that strikes me is are they looking at any of the cases could be madoff the stuff we do know. here's a guy, any place in the country could get an 8 ball of cocaine at 3:00 in the morning. are any of those leads cut to the lapd? he should be a grand jury witness in narcotics investigationses. a plea deal is a deal. what are we getting as taxpayers. what is he bringing to the table for this sweetheart deal. he is a gun perp. i don't want to hear anything from joe biden about guns guns guns.

son got a slap on the wrist relative to that gun charge. >> absolutely. emily, i am intrigued by from a legal perspective, one of the whistle-blowers says david weiss, district attorney, wanted to bring charges in march of 2022. wanted to bring them in the fall in california. wasn't allowed to. merrick garland says i never interfered. we haven't heard from david weiss, but we have a letter sent to jim jordan, he said i want to make clear as the attorney general stated, i am granted ultimate authority over the matter. someone is not telling the truth here. >> that's right. and the only way you can get to the bottom is hauling everyone in before congress and getting their sworn testimony. the attorney general, david weiss, every ada, wolf, bring them in. to paul's point, there's a constellation of alleged and frankly known criminal behavior of this individual. if you had a ton of different symptoms, your

arm is falling off, you have a cold, ulcer, and you're only addressing one, there's 90 more% of that whole circle left to investigate as taxpayers, we need to understand what's going on with any type of improper allegation of influence, with foreign registration. we have seen people go to prison and have felony convictions for a lot less. the misdemeanor from a tax charge which personally i've never seen in a plea deal and slap on the wrist for the gun charge which i have always never seen, those are a tiny portion of what he is responsible for. for viewers to understand it is not just about a president who denies having involvement, it is about the fact that at every level of government we have conflicting testimony involving suppression of search warrants, of prosecutions, of things that we pay in full faith tax dollars to have people pursue this justice. so the notion that someone is getting off scott free and myriad levels is

untenable. congress has oversight because it is impeachable and potential criminal activity. apply that pressure. to harris' point, lack of curiosity by the democrat party, by congress, by media is absolutely unacceptable. put pressure on so we get answers. >> no doubt. amy, the white house have hunter front and center, leading his dad around ireland, it is a big middle finger to the american people. here's hunter. >> someone is not telling the truth. we have gotten to the bottom of that as we pointed out, someone is not telling the truth. instead of looking for the truth, we are getting rewarded. we are seeing the person in trouble rewarded. if it was any of us in the same boat, the american people see that. we don't want to see two different tiers and ways things are handled, we want it fair for everyone. even someone in your own family, if someone did something wrong, they should be accountable. >> just a quick question,

emily. july 26th when they'll do the plea deal. the judge is someone appointed by donald trump. how much does that day matter? i think it is an important day because the doj says the investigation is ongoing, the judge leo terrell put this on its head and reject the plea deal? >> i have never seen it frankly, it is always a rubber stamping. to be honest, never seen a judge reject. by the time it gets to that phase in the hearing, that's long been approved by both parties. maybe there will be hopefully some relief, transparency, as of now expect him to -- >> he has to get that plea deal. >> before it happens. >> lot of questions. coming up, new questions about tragedy of the titanic submersible and the federal government response after we learn the u.s. navy likely detected the implosion just hours after the vessel lost contact. that's next. veteran homeowners. prices are going up fast.

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>> the search for the missing titanic submersible ended in tragedy yesterday, but there are new questions arising about the early days of the search. a u.s. defense official says a top secret acoustic detection system picked up sounds consistent with implosion sunday hours after the submersible lost contact with its mother ship. the official says the info was shared with the u.s. coast guard to narrow the search area. that brings us to questions about the international rescue effort. lucas tomlinson has more from washington. lucas? >> good afternoon, ladies, and paul. somebody knows a thing or two about diving, dan crenshaw spent a decade on a s.e.a.l. team asking that same question. you knew the sub was diving the titanic,

wouldn't you begin searching there. >> the coast guard is acting like it is a search area twice the size of connecticut, that makes no sense. we know exactly where it is. >> navy officials privately admitting they detected implosion when the titan sub was diving when communications were lost, not long after the dive began. on the hill, the top democrat on the armed services committee defended the response with this candid remark. >> we are not omnipotent, can't solve every problem that comes along. if there's a particular capability someone is lacking in a situation anywhere in the world and we're in position to help them, i would like us to take a look. it is not always possible. >> the pentagon says its focus is on winning or preventing wars, not rescuing civilians lost at sea. the u.s. military long maintained underwater microphone to detect submarines. they're asking why didn't the navy share this publicly sooner. >> thank you so much, lucas. bringing the conversation

back to the couch, paul, again, with your investigative experience, the military sort of responded in that, this information is part of an overall constellation of evidence that was not definitive. they submitted it to the u.s. coast guard for their use in narrowing down, triangulating their rescue efforts. we might learn more about that, but that was their defense which i appreciate. the air on the other side would have been to pinpoint something and perhaps risk being wrong, where there were souls to be saved elsewhere. >> obviously the primary thing is preservation of life. everybody recognizes this is a terrible tragedy. we all put ourselves in that, think my god, what would it have been like. that's just human nature. the point i would like to make is just if you're going to engage in this sort of risky behavior, risk by choice, i think there should be some assurity in place before you do it, right, put up money.

you spend a quarter million to go on this submersible, you should put up a commensurate amount, maybe through insurance or something else, so when we have to launch this kind of rescue effort, you have all these guys on all the time, you have to pay for fuel, helicopters, ships, et cetera, this is very expensive. the american taxpayer has to eat it, right? again, it is a tragedy. the preservation of life is the most important thing. everybody recognizes that. you worry about the money later. but i can tell you, i was working the day the plane went down in the hudson, the sully story, i wasn't out, the harbor guys went out, but that was a big all points effort, it costs a lot of money. you have to do it, but afterwards you say that was an accident. this was risk by choice. you kind of have to say wouldn't it be better if we had a plan, then we could have focused efforts better for everybody's sake. >> and it is interesting, i have spoken with a lot of high end security companies tasked with protecting incredibly high worth individuals whose

policies include clauses that they are unable to drive themselves, that they must have private security in the home, for example. there are things that prevent risk taking behavior. kayleigh, we have been discussing with prayers the entire time this ordeal and the question remains in terms of going back to the naval information that sharing with the public is a different ball of wax than sharing with the coast guard. they immediately did share with the coast guard who was sort of heading that effort, so what is your take on the demand that they should have reeltdz it to the public earlier. >> "the wall street journal" article was fascinating. it said the u.s. the noises this he detected, they want search and rescue to continue until they knew for sure it was implosion. their first response is let's not tell the public we heard a noise, the first thought is let's save lives if we can. i understand that response. they apparently heard a variety of noises, u.s. and canadian forces. one sounded like knocking,

and appears there will be investigation into that. they don't know if that was from the titan or something unrelated. this was a very difficult investigation, i thought they did the best they could in a tough scenario. >> the commitment to accuracy is paramount. >> i interviewed ben can hes ling, one of the four reporters that broke theavy hea hours after they lost communication with titan and the mother ship as they call it, the polar prince, above the surface of the water, and he said, i'll quote him here, the navy won't say exactly when they started listening but i've had naval officials tell me that we have vehicles and vessels in the water listening 24/7, that's their job to do that. according to navy officials, it was at the same time, around the same time the sub lost communications with the surface as when they detected the sound of what they know is an implosion. so you have something going on in an area that

turned out to be 1600 feet from the bow of the titanic. my big question isn't why they didn't tell the public, i would hope not because those would be top secret military mission information, i mean, we wouldn't need to know that. but what did they share with families, because to hope for those further days, if they knew they were likely looking at an implosion, if it was even a 10% possibility not to share that with the families begs the question what were we protecting, and wree don't know the answers to everything. and i don't want to spill military secrets, but by tuesday, by the time we started reporting underwater noises, first it was banging, then during my hour, they said no, the government said don't call it banging. we were already getting, that was coming from them, saying don't call it that, call it underwater noises. if they knew, of course not. if it had been an

implosion, it was impossible it was banging. >> i ask to go back to what paul said, having a plan before they go out is the real secret here. we have an unchecked, unregulated system, we have a submersible that was run by a remote control from like atari or some sort of game boy. this was really not in my opinion not a well thought out process. they had a lawsuit back in 2018 that it was not a reliable way to go. in all of the paperwork everyone signed, there were three or four death is likely, death could happen. this was a very risky situation. what's it going to be like in space, are we going to send people to space and have huge excursions going to look for people? this is a situation where they took a risk, we need to rethink, loss of life is tragic, people take a risk, you see this on the street with first responders, some risks are chosen by choice and we have to have limits what we do saving people. >> emily said it beautifully yesterday, for all those people that searched and looked, they

risked themselves, too. we are grateful to all of them for however this would have turned out. it is sadly a tragedy. >> amen. and investigations will yield the facts that we will then report to you all. coming up, an unruly mob of teens ran sack a los angeles mcdonald's as new data suggests crime may be driving again zers and millennials out of cities. that's next. when they ask you where you get your edge. ( ♪ ) be sure to let them know. -hey dad -hey z. the lexus rx. never lose your edge.

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[ bleep ]. >> what is happening to this nation? what if your children are there? how do you even explain that and protect them. it's sick. new data census from san francisco shows millennials and gen z'ers are leaving the city. numbers full from last year. a 21% drop. emily? >> you know, i keep thinking about the first word you used, harris, unmitigated, and the reality is living in this country there should be mitigating efforts on

behalf of the government, on behalf of what we pay tax dollars to protect us, which includes members of the criminal justice system so things like this are mitigated. you put your faith in the system so prosecutors prosecute, so district attorneys lead by example and represent the victim, not the criminal. you put your faith in the president to support law enforcement, to condemn violence, to support parents raising children in homes of faith and structure and discipline. i can't get out of my head the fear of those employees. we showed as well, awhile ago now, an elderly gentleman eating at a fast food restaurant while someone came up and started beating him. it is things like that, the underserved communities, the elderly, the everyone. it is every american that eats regularly at these places, it is unacceptable. this is los angeles. gas con's los angeles, newsom's california, and this is biden's america.

>> amy, the challenge is that the kids are going to migrate. as emily just said, biden's america. so where will they migrate to, if you have numbers of kids going down, among them statistically, some are going to be like this. where are they going? >> it is an entitlement we are allowing to happen in so many of these communities. it is really unfortunate. it is sad to see, and it is scary, quite frankly. in new york city if you have been here the last 15 years, you've seen relatively safe new york. i should say prior to the last two years for me i've seen a major downhill slide, but this is what crime looks like, and you're seeing people talk about it who never before recognized it or wanted to admit to it. there are a lot of apps and neighborhood groups you can belong to in this day and age. on the upper west side of manhattan, the group neighbor which is basically to exchange ideas, community, give references, it has become a crime blotter.

here's what's happening on my corner, here's what i saw in the business across from where i live. it is an unnerving situation. it is an entitlement. wherever they go, they're getting it in big cities to do what they want. >> waves of crime. tells you where the next accident is going to be. i feel like the sanctuary of sanctuary cities has become for criminals, not just people crossing illegally over the border, but american citizens who are willing to kill us. >> yep. and kaldz is ground zero for that, you're exactly right. i spoke with florida governor ron desantis, he said when he went to san francisco, he saw people defecating on the sidewalk, open air drug markets using fentanyl and people using crack cocaine. a police officer thanked him for coming for what he has done in florida where crime is at a 50 year low. gavin newsom, you nailed it, this guy is being praised, he is like a snail oil salesman selling death and destruction. that's california.

he shouldn't be praised. this is who the dems want. >> paul, you and i did an hour-long special last week on george soros, and all that money flowing into soft on crime d.a.s, and you told a chilling story how it effects police officers and you were with nypd for a very long time in leadership. >> you see, i have to ask myself, what is the metric by which theal van braggs of the world think this is working. people are running out of the city. and one of the things happening now is more than ever we can see it, right, people are putting videos up. we are not blind to what goes on. this is the kind of stuff that only the police used to see. right now everybody is seeing what this stuff looks like. here's the thing. you can't have only the carrot, you have to have the stick. post floyd, the big movement across the country was we are going to remove the stick, everything is about the carry. no sanctions. we are supposed to believe

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>> republican presidential candidate vivek ramaswamy is blasting the liberal media's portrayal of republican voters after an iowa newspaper featured

him in a racially charged cartoon. it depicts him at a campaign rally with, quote, maga friends. members of the crowd are shown yelling raigs insults to him. he is fiercely condemning the cartoon saying it is sad this is how the mainstream media views republicans. i met with grass roots conservatives across america and never once experienced the kind of bigotry i regular see from the left. they have the right to print this, but it is still shameful. emily, totally shameful. the media always go after not the candidate but the voters. half the country, good hard working people who are not racist as they suggest. >> it is the dripping disdain from the far left, the elite condescension from the democrat party that we will never escape. i am reminded of the interview with then employee don lemon who said remember, they were talking about race relations in america,

talking about black lives matter, and don lemon said whatever race you are. the disdain. and vivek said hold on, i am indian american, paraphrasing, these are my thoughts. it was such a stark moment, i think of president biden and jill biden's callous, racial comments about multiple groups of people that they tend to knee jerk sort of a trigger to when they want their vote, they cater to when they want their votes, but when they speak about them, it is stereotypes, see everyone as a block. to all of us that view people as individuals, americans first, it is deeply offensive that all of this damning racism comes from the left. i am reminded of seattle cops i told you about during the riots who were very diverse in race, in ethnicity and in sexual preference, said the worst bigotry and worst racism they have ever experienced was on the streets of seattle when the progressive mob was hurling insults at them,

unrepeatable on air. >> paul, you reminded us of some comments from the former vice president now president joe biden. let's watch. >> i had a great relationship. >> in delaware, the largest growth of population is indian americans, moving from india. you cannot go to a 7-eleven or dunkin' donuts unless you have a slight indian accent. i'm not joking. >> terrible. >> so will that cartoonist take that on? i don't think so. doesn't this have the air a little of the white saver thing, this cartoonist decided that vivek who is a multimillionaire tech giant, very successful guy, he needs this cartoonist to protect him from the evil maga people. to emily's point, you reminded me, during the riots post floyd in new york city, i was out there, saw a black

sergeant while crowds were throwing stuff, yelling and screaming. they surrounded him. it was mostly white kids, antifa types, calling him uncle tom and his guys came over to protect him, he was a sergeant, he had a crew. they came over. they were white. it was an interesting dichotomy. the worst grief he was taking. look, what the dems have to recognize aside that we should be color blienld by this point and it constantly comes up, it is not the right that brings it up, south asians, people like vivek, nikki haley, this is a voting block coming, like the ellis islanders of old. they played this game at their peril. these folks are coming and they're going to be players. >> i wonder how the cartoon came about, it was supposed to be funny, wasn't at all. does an editor approve this? it had to go through multiple layers. >> i don't know how it ends up with a high profile feature that doesn't get seen, i don't know who is there, i would

assume somebody saw it. you have to ask what is tolerable, what isn't. somewhere in that area where this guy was creating this, he felt it was okay to do this. i will say that vivek ramaswamy is the american dream, and i met his family and i don't know. while we're at it, you know, donald trump was probably one of the best examples of this, too. you talk about pushing against the rich and elite, also very wealthy, right? but finds a way to connect with everybody. vivek ramaswamy, he loves the guys in the maga hats. he was the person who first said if you were made president and former president trump needed his help, he would pardon him. that's who got the party started. i don't get the cartoonist at all. doesn't he know these men support one another, too, it is your party. you know about that. >> and amy, of all the candidates, vivek is beloved in the republican

party, in the top three names i see regularly on social media. >> a great name, it is memorable. i think taking this experience, bringing to light who the people are is exactly the conversation we are having now is the good that comes out of something meant to be bad. reminding everybody the faces of people, places they've come from. that's the good that comes from this. >> i wonder what tim scott is facing. >> quite a lot. he is feeling it. be sure to tune in, i will host fox news tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. tonight, we reveal answers to the 2024 candidate questionnaire how to keep kids safe at school. we received replies from gop candidates on a question, hasn't been asked anywhere else. we have vivek, dez, nikki haley, vivek ramaswamy and trump with various replies. more "outnumbered" next.

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. >> the white house briefing coming up, the white house taking questions first time since the irs wh testimony was released. john kirby also there today. we'll have that. jonathan turley on

bombshell allegations in the testimony and whether there are two tiers of justice in this country. the loss of the titan submersible may have been detected on sunday morning. why was the information kept quiet for so long? we'll have the latest on the titan disaster. is home ownership slipping out of reach because of rising interest rates and biden policy. grover norquist is here on that. and we talk to the latest republican to throw his hat in the ring, former texas congressman, will hurd. we'll see you top of the hour for "america reports." >> welcome back. it is time for in case you missed it. now, would you eat chicken grown in a lab? federal regulators have just given the green light for two companies to produce and sell chicken cultured from animal cells. last hour, harris spoke with the chief operating officer of up side foods, one of the companies behind this new kind of meat. listen. >> a historic week, with usda approval, it means the fda and usda, key

regulators deemed our product is chicken, it is meat, and it is also safe and of high quality. we are very, very excited that this also means we are clear to sell. the goal is to start being able to give consumers a taste of the future very soon. we are running a contest for consumers to be among the first to try it. >> call me old fashioned, i'm take a lab grown diamond. i don't think i would take a lab grown chicken though. >> ice it up, girlfriend. my favorite part of that, and amy chen was so gracious to do that. some of the twitter, one guy said franken-chicken. when she got to the part where she said the fda and government told her their product is chicken, now we can sell it, no one has to tell me what my dinner is from the government. like harris, your steak is steak. no, baby, it is steak! i don't need a lab to tell me that. you know, i think people

will try this like they did the impossible burger and they'll decide for themselves. my greatest concern is that we are going down the road of the netherlands, where the farmers are hurt by this because we take, they produce 44 billion bounds of chicken naturally. and 2019 as a yearly example. this will yield about 50,000. >> displacement is real, it is a real risk and concern, kayleigh. >> it is. and apparently they have to put a label on, who is like yum, i for one will eat what i love. you mentioned shake shack. >> i tap out of petri dish. she was lovely. i enjoyed the interview. she got me a little excited, but i am not in for that. i will let the rich try it, let me know how it goes. >> it will be expensive. >> a group of activist doctors going after a collegiate team in georgia over its name, macon bacon. they say it is

glorification of unhealthy food, they want the team to promote plant based alternatives. they said they have great pride in the name, the macon bacon will be sizzling, will not consider name change ever. and bacon is my favorite food, but pigs are one of my favorite animals. i love them and i eat them. >> you're conflicted. failure of marketing by the people protesting because the macon plant based alternatives doesn't roll off the tongue. macon bacons. anyway, it is not going to work anyway, to get the south to stop eating bacon. >> no, i am going to add double. >> i love that all food is problematic. we talk about rice, a s staple food group, bacon, now we can't eat chicken. at what point do we realize the insanity of all this.

>> probably never. elon musk is taking the war at twitter and facebook to the next level, challenging meta ceo mark zuckerberg to a cage match. musk's idea came about talking with followers on twitter. didn't take long for zuckerberg to accept the challenge. the meta ceo has been training for over a year, won a silicon valley tournament in his weight class. elon musk admits he almost never goes to the gym. i kid. but we have the card already, we can throw it up for you. that's what it would look like. paul, what say you? >> this is not ali, fraser, these two. zuckerberg won a few fights in silicon valley. the guy owns silicon valley. a little like when they let vladimir putin playing hockey, let him score. you know what, musk is going to have a force field around him.

i am going with musk on whatever the odds are. >> do you think this will happen? >> to me they say they're doing it for charity. they can put in more money than they'll raise for charity, they're that wealthy. maybe it is a waste of time, entertaining for all ever us. my odds with elon every day of the week. >> which guy has time. i didn't know zuckerberg was hanging out on twitter. >> all right, guys. from cage fights to the battlefield, join me as i explore the weapons that help shape america in my fox nation special "weapons of war." catch it on fox business tomorrow night. five different episodes from 8:00 to 11:00 p.m. eastern. you don't want to miss. it is the most exciting project i've ever been a part of. and that's staying a lot. stick around. more "outnumbered" is next.

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>> last but not least, want to truly get away, island near finland is going phone-free this summer. asking travelers to ditch their smart devices and enjoy the beauty. i love this. it's purely voluntarily and cell phones can be used in case of emergency. well, no kidding. but, it's not an emergency to have it next to you at all times. >> all i can say, they better have a psychiatrist on duty for anybody under 25. >> oh, goodness. >> even if my phone is down to about 20%, i start to panic a little bit. >> goodness. >> true confession. >> don't tell me what to do, if i use it on the vacation, i will use it on vacation but i love the efficacy and -- >> i'm an investor, sign me up.

i don't know if i'd go, but somebody wants to go on vacation and do this to say -- >> i've been on vacation with you, and you are fun. emily. >> like an adult only resort, if you want to be a place everyone else is doing the same thing, you find others on the phone distracting, go ahead. >> i'm going on vacation for a little while, i'll miss you guys, and i'll have my phone but put i on music. anyway, "america reports" now. >> john: all right, have a great vacation, i'm right behind you. awaiting a briefing of karine jean-pierre and john kirby in the wake of stunning whistleblower testimony alleging interference at every step of the hunter biden tax probe. good friday afternoon to you. >> we made it, good to see you, i'm ai