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>> john, when the president said yesterday he expects to meet with president xi in the future near term, can you define what that means? should we expect that by the end of the year? >> near term, i don't have anything more specific than that. the president will absolutely -- >> john: all right, and with that, we will jump out of the briefing and back to our regularly scheduled programming, john kirby at the white house taking questions, nothing on the pressing issue of the day and that is newly revealed testimony from those whistleblowers about the hunter biden investigation. however, the next 60 minutes, lots more on that coming up. watch here. >> these are big allegations, these relate not only to interference from the department of justice, the bigger question in some ways is why were these allegations that relate to, you know, such significant -- significant crimes not fully investigated. and we may never know. >> john: a representative for an irs whistleblower speaking out
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earlier as the house ways and means committee releases stunning testimony from two agents. they say the lead prosecutor overseeing hunter biden's investigation was not actually in charge of the outcome, thanks to meddling from the justice department, despite attorney general merrick garland insisting it's not true. >> mr. weiss had more authority than a special counsel would have had, as complete he had and has complete authority to bring a case anywhere he wants in his discretion. >> we will get reaction from republican 2024 presidential candidate will hurd, he's joining us in just a moment. david spunt, you got to ask a.g. garland about all of this today. what did he say to you? >> aishah, about 90 minutes ago and the attorney general has remained consistent over the past two years saying that david
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weiss has fully been in control of the hunter biden investigation. now, there's a notion out there that david weiss was told not to bring charges against hunter biden last year, according to a whistleblower. weiss announced a plea deal with hunter biden on tuesday. irs supervisory agent sat with a six-hour interview after he cape forward publicly, he told congress that david weiss who entered into the plea deal champions he tried to bring charges against him in 2022 and was denied. >> notes from october 7, 2022, meeting with u.s. attorney david weiss and his supervisor was there, agent in charge, and that's what weiss told us. >> i asked garland about this assertion that weiss was told to stand down. >> he sent a letter confirming
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he had that authority. i don't know how it would be possible to block him from bringing a prosecution, given that he has this authority. >> garland mentions a letter, to jim jordan from june 7th, weiss insisted he was fully in charge of the probe since the beginning. letter reads in part, i have been grant ultimate authority over this matter. hunter biden will plead guilty to two misdemeanor tax offenses. he learned more than a million and a half, owing 100 grand in taxes each year, hunter biden will enter the plea july 26th before a trump appointed federal judge in wilmington, delaware, but the key, the judge has to approve the terms of this plea agreement before it can go through. back to you. >> the only person who has not said anything yet, the president, and so we will see if he will any time soon.
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david spunt, live for us, thank you. >> thank you. >> john: let's bring in will hurd, a former texas republican congressman, and joins us now. so, the hunter biden investigation, whistleblower testimony, does it look to you, will, as though this investigation was interfered with? >> look, it looks suspicious. one of the things i think is fascinating is that the democrat lead of the ways and means committee said he was supportive of the tapes being released. he just did not -- he didn't like the process of what's happening. i think ultimately what we need to see, let's get neil to testify the way durham testified a couple weeks ago so there is a level of transparency. this is my criticisms of the department of justice. when you have these investigations, whether it's in the donald trump or to joe biden, you have to show a level of transparency so that the
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american public can be comfortable with what they are doing and the fact that a lot of americans feel like there is erosion of trust in their federal law enforcement is a problem, and the way you solve that problem is to make sure you are showing some transparency. ut matly people are frustrated with these kinds of issues, the baggage that joe biden has, baggage that donald trump has, americans want our leaders to be talking about forward thinking issues and how do we ensure that america stays the greatest country on the planet. >> john: you mentioned the donald trump investigation, you are no fan of the former president, but do you believe there is a two-tier system of justice here. >> we should be concerned with all of this stuff. if you are concerned about the transcripts and that hunter biden is a national security threat you should also be concerned with the classified documents at mar-a-lago.
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if you were concerned about the former president working with the russians, then you should also be concerned about hunter biden and his drama and problems because of his drug addiction and things like that. >> john: and ties to china. >> and ties to china. and we should be concerned the department of justice is doing things and upholding the law in the same way. so i think all of these things we should be concerned with. personally, my problem with the classified documents, someone who had spent time, i spent nine and a half years overseas, stopping terrorists from trying to blow up our homeland, preventing nuclear weapons and bringing dirty bombs into the country, if any of these are true and you are innocent until proven guilty, if any of those things are true it's devastating someone that the former leader of the free world was -- had this kind of information strewn about his business.
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>> john: let's get to your presidential campaign. 12th republican to jump into the race. the third republican in the anti-trump lane. that's already occupied by chris christie and asa hutchinson. what do you say you are only diluting the voter pool that may unseat the former president as the nominee. >> this is the united states of america. it's always better to have options. we should have a competition of ideas and here is what i've learned. only 23% of americans vote in primaries, that's republican or democrat, because that means 77% of americans are sick and tired of everything that's going on in both parties. those are the people that we have an opportunity to activate and so for me this is about making sure we are talking about the issues that i hear that people care about. this is people being to put food on the table, roof over their head and the people they love are healthy, happy and safe. and so that's the lane i'm running in.
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i'm going to be the guy talking about the ideas of the future, not complaining about the past. and engaging with folks that are frustrated with president biden and donald trump. >> john: one of the issues i assume you would be interested in is illegal immigration, you used to represent the 23rd congressional district in texas, probably the biggest border district in the entire country, runs from el paso to laredo. what would you do to solve the border crisis? >> look, you got to start and this crisis that joe biden has created is astronomical, and the fact that his administration is not using those -- the proper words to describe this is a problem. start by not having policies that are encouraging illegal immigration. and this starts by stop treating everybody as an asylum seeker. this is super nuanced, here is the reality. i'm going to the united states because you want a better job is not a reason for coming in
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asylum. if you come in between the ports of entry that is illegal and you should be deported immediately. you don't need a u.s. supreme court case to give you the authority to do that, that's the authority the department of homeland security has. that's one. two, we should be addressing root causes in other places. northern triangle is where a lot of illegal immigration comes from. we spend a lot of money on foreign policy but it's not regional. and treat the drug trafficking organizations like the national intelligence threat that they are. the human smuggling organizations and the drug smuggling organizations in mexico, made closer to $60 billion last year on just moving people here. the entire u.s. intelligence budget is $60 billion. we need to be -- we need to dismantle those networks happening and that's going to see a big change here in the
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united states. >> john: one last question, quick answer because we are out of time here. you want to make it to the debate stage i assume in wisconsin on the 23rd of august but you say that you are not going to take the rnc pledge to support the eventual nominee. why not? >> one, i'm not going to lie to the american people in order to gain a microphone. i've taken -- i do one pledge, when i put my hand on my heart and pledge to the flag of the united states of america, i've taken one oath and that was to protect and defend the constitution, and taken one vow, to my amazing and beautiful wife. and i don't think political parties should be trying to rig who goes on to the debate stage and i'm not going to lie to the american people what i may or may not do, and so the rnc can make whatever decision they want, that's my decision. >> john: long road between now and the first primary, will hurd, thanks for joining us.
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>> thanks for the time. >> john: not sure how he's going to make it on to the debate stage, that is one of the criteria. >> aishah: i think it's going to be a big problem for the rnc. at least two other people. trump is the biggest one to say he would pledge loyalty, it's going to be a problem for them. >> john: it will, you want to get on the stage, you have to make the pledge. maybe they'll have to rescind that. we'll see. >> aishah: check it out, protestors are gathering outside a school board meeting in new jersey after the board decided parents need to be kept in the loop about their child's gender identity. seems noncontroversial but that is sparking the governor now to take legal action. we are going to fill you in on what is happening there next. plus this. >> every justice that sat there during their confirmation
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more. what do the parents think about the policies? >> john, many parents are happy because the amended policies require teachers to tell them if their child is, say, changing pronouns or using a different name, anything related to their gender identity. but new jersey attorney general calls it discrimination against transgender students. >> my children belong to me and no one else. >> teachers i think should be there to teach. not -- [applause] >> you need to listen to trans people and listen to your transgender students. it is not in your place to decide whether somebody is at home or not, it is up to us. >> right here, john, you see this group was outside that school board meeting. this is in middletown, new jersey, chanting "save trans kids," and the attorney general agrees with them, saying the policies harm our kids and pose
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severe risk to their safety. this is the second time in a month that platkin has challenged a similar policy. he won an emergency stay against the hannover board of education for a policy that requires teachers to notify parents if their child's gender identity and sexual orientation. an attorney who represents the marlboro school board, one of the three boards sued here, tells fox news it is our position that keeping parents in the dark about important issues involving their children is counter intuitive and contrary to well established u.s. supreme court case law that says parents have a constitutional right to direct and control the upbringing of their children. tells fox he expects a decision in the next 30 days about a requested injunction from the state. the case will likely go to administrative court in the next few months. back to you, john. >> john: going to be a big issue for the 2024 elections, nate, thank you.
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>> aishah: the supreme court justice samuel alito is denying any wrongdoing after he was accused of undisclosed ethics rules of a fishing trip, and penned an op-ed to defend himself. >> john: political fighting over the nation's highest court. democratic lawmakers are calling for stricter ethics guidelines, and republicans say democrats are trying to undermine the court. >> aishah: all of this is happening almost a year after the overturning of roe v. wade sparked protests across the country and the justice's homes, so let's bring in shannon bream, anchor of fox news sunday, so shannon, alito is fighting back and i have a piece of his op-ed here that i'm going to read off here for us. he says that i had no obligation to recuse in any of the cases that pro publica sites. on no occasions have we discussed the activities of his
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business and have never talked about any case or issue before the court. of course he's talking about hedge fund manager paul singer who he went on the fishing trip in 2008. he's taking none of these charges from pro publica are valid. >> he is saying that and explains what happens to the court internally, tens thousands of cases every year, and the internal vetting, we have people who dig through, the parties to the case, connections to the case, he was not aware paul singer was connected with the cases he ruled on. and defenders of clarence thomas doing saying some of this went to the judicial conference, they made decisions whether or not we had to report the trips or other things and following their guidance. >> john: what the wall street journal said, pro publica fishing expedition for justice alito, this is a nonscandal
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built on partisan spin intended to harm the justice and the current court majority. there are conservatives, many in this country who say the liberals don't like the make-up of the court and so they are going to do anything to try to discredit it or if they can put pressure on the justices to either recuse or to resign. >> and listen, the supreme court is unique, no one can tell them to recuse, no framework other than their own personal judgment. the rest of the piece talks about the fact the left is very unhappy about the decisions from the court and that's why they are trying to rest control of the court back they say through the allegations that don't land anywhere, according to the wall street journal editorial board. democrats say they have questions if people are travelling arounds with luxury trips and wealthy donors, the appearance should raise questions so they want to pass an ethics code, or want the court to do it, and dick durbin is among one of the top democrat
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senators who says we will pass legislation. >> congress cannot even pass a stock trading ban on itself. today is the anniversary of the supreme court ruling decision to send the abortion issue back to the states. obviously democrats want to play it up big, it worked out well for them in 2022. republicans seem to not be on the same page on this. what's the strategy they should be sticking to? >> a lot of pro life leaders will say we should be more full throated in explaining what we are doing. they think the republican candidates have been too shy, not clear about where they are and you'll hear a growing talking point from the republican candidates to say, ask democrats where they stand, are you three months, six months, nine months, states in the country allow abortion up until birth. so they want to have that part of the conversation but a number of republicans feel like the midterm they believe is a warning to them, it's not a topic that's going to win with
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voters. >> john: patch work of laws across the country, some allow the abortion theory up to birth, and some like the fetal heartbeat. >> like the six-week. >> and others like lindsey graham, say 15 weeks. until the republicans get a good solid position, how can they counteract. >> i think that's what we are seeing -- they want the 15 week for the national ban. six weeks, 15 weeks, whatever it is, a majority of voters would favor restrictions a the 15 weeks, they think it's in line with most of america is. >> susan b. anthony says if you want our endorsement, you have to be minimum 15 weeks. and john kirby was finally asked about -- finally asked about the
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hunter biden situation. did not give much of an answer. >> does this not undermine the president's claim during the 2020 campaign and the reaffirmations of that claim by his two press secretaries since then that he never once discussed his son's overseas business dealings with him? >> no, i'm not going to comment further on this. james, say -- let me say -- let me say -- let me save you some breath if you are going to ask about this. i'm not addressing -- i know you do, more than i would like you to have. i'm not going to address this issue from this podium. i'm not going to do it. >> aishah: usually it's about election campaign stuff. >> i think it's a tough spot for the white house, anybody in the administration to talk about. the president is trying to do campaign events, so to get questions about hunter biden it's not where they want to go.
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but with the whistleblowers coming forward, it sparks new questions that you heard attorney general merrick garland in back and forth with david spunt, getting more animated about saying david weiss, u.s. attorney will complete autonomy, in conflict with what the whistleblower has said, shown his face, his name on the record, we have to figure out where the truth lies in there. >> john: i'm old enough to remember back when mike mccoury was asked questions about monica lewinsky, and i have nothing to say, looks like they are taking the same tact here. >> mike pence says in his heart he will be the nominee. he's big, where do we land on the 15 week ban, and calling aut the gop standards that as a minimum and senator ben kern talking about policy stuff.
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>> i cannot say if the president has had a conversation with the attorney general last night. what i can refer you to is the white house counsel's office as it relates to the allegations. they have already addressed this. this is something for them to deal with. i defer you to the department of justice on anything else if you don't want t speak to the white house counsel's office. >> reporting earlier in the week after the plea agreement was reached by hunter biden, the president felt relieved that part of it was behind him, is that true? >> i can't speak to that. i cannot speak to the president's mindset. -- to move into india more, and invest, what assurances did you get from prime minister modi -- >> john: karine jean-pierre there as ed lawrence asked a question about foreign policy and the economy.
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again, like john kirby refusing to answer any questions about the irs investigation, about the special counsel david weiss or about the alleged whatsapp message that gary says was sent to his business partners in china, so it's not likely we are going to get anything from the white house on all of this. karine jean-pierre referring journalists in the room to the white house counsel's office. and we don't very often publicly hear from them, so for the moment at 2:32 eastern time on friday afternoon, that's br all of this stands. >> aishah: so the house-led gop is taking a stand on the biden administration new mortgage rule. some democrats joining the republican counterparts in voting to reverse that plan which they say punishes responsible americans. you at home trying to buy a house by making them pay higher borrowing rates. grover norquist, president of american's for tax reform is
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standing by to weigh in. first hillary vaughn is live on capitol hill with the latest. hillary, so it passed the house, what are the odds it passes the senate, too? >> not impossible, aishah. 14 house democrats voted with republicans to overturn president biden's new mortgage rules that basically mean if you are a home buyer with good credit, you are paying more so that home buyers with bad credit are paying less. >> you, the middle class, are now going to be punished under the new biden rule because, guess what, people who didn't do the hard work that you did to make sure that they maintained good credit so that they could participate in the same way, you and i are now going to subsidize them. this is harming home ownership and it's attacking the middle class. >> and when you do the math, that's exactly what the mortgage rules do. according to bank rates analysis, for homeowners looking to take out a $350,000 mortgage,
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people with good credit under biden's rules are paying 1300 bucks more in fees, people with bad credit are paying $2,600 less in fees. but democrats are brushing off concerns from republicans these rules don't help everyone in the middle class, it hurts the middle class who were financially responsible. >> president biden and house and senate democrats standing up for the middle class and those who aspire to be part of it and trying to make sure that the things traditionally associated with the middle class lifestyle, like affordable home ownership are sustained in the united states of america. >> aishah, it's not just people with good credit that are being punished under these rules. if you have the money to put more than 20% down on a house, you are going to pay the highest amount in fees as opposed to someone who doesn't have enough money to put down 20% on a home. >> aishah: hillary, beige a house, not the same as it used to be.
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>> john: you would know, you just bought one. and it's not just white house policies making it harder for the middle class, low housing inventory, rising mortgage rates are pushing many buyers out of the market. grover nar -- norquist, average 30 year fixed mortgage, 6.67%. i remember when i bought my first house, my first mortgage was 15%, second mortgage was 20%. the house did not cost a lot. >> there was back at a time when jimmy carter was president. >> it was. >> double digits and unfortunately, with biden's extra spending you are seeing over the last may to may, 12 months, 5.3% inflation, that's added into anything you borrow money on. increase the interest rates. and make it difficult for every american. the democrats are trying to make some fight about middle class versus poor people.
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and point of fact, it hurts everyone trying to buy a house and it's really bad policy, and it really gouges the middle class and hopefully the senate will join the house in voting no. the house did it with 14 democrats as you pointed out. >> aishah: i just bought a house, as john pointed out, a couple weeks ago. not my first purchase but it was the most difficult. i didn't have to fight anybody for the house, so that was good, which is an indication of where we are in this market. but man, those interest rates. it really made me even up until the last very last moment of signing off my life away, i really was thinking am i doing the right thing. so, are people -- for people who have had to buy in these awful interest rates, six. whatever percent, should people wa it?
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>> if they want to bring inflation down to 2%, they have to bring the interest rates up more. then you have unemployment, and higher interest rates. >> john: take a look at what all of this is doing to the housing market, it is having a profound effect. home sales in the differences may 2022 to may 2023, overall, existing home sales down 20%. national median existing home price down 3.1%, great for buyers, bad for sellers. national median, came up a little bit april to may, but still way down overall. year to year. i guess the only shining light for people who are trying to sell a home, it does not work for buyers, is that there is low inventory, so that's artificially buoying prices. >> prices have come down and if your life savings are in your
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home, prices are down and an ira or 401(k) prices have fallen because of biden's policies on energy and taxes, it does not bode well for people retiring any time soon. >> aishah: how long can the housing market withstand before it becomes a problem for our economy and for people who are out there really pinching pennies right now? >> well, we lived through this with jimmy carter, but it was cut short because reagan came in and did the opposite of everything carter did. if biden gets re-elected, we'll see more of same, to probably wise to buy now. >> john: i should have waited until reagan took office before buying my first house. i bought it in 1980. but here is the thing. my late brother said are you nuts? buying a house in this market with that level of interest rate? but turned around and sold the house for double what i paid for it at the time. so i did come out on top.
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>> i don't think i'll be able to do that. i think i paid triple. >> john: perhaps not. grover, great to see you. >> thanks for not calling me an idiot on live tv. >> john: the white house briefing got more fiery as reporters pressed karine jean-pierre about the hunter biden whistleblower allegations. we'll have that sound for you coming up next. my name is brian delallo. i teach ap and honors economics in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. financial well-being to me is knowing that i can be free to do the things that i love to do.
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>> john: the white house press briefing just wrapped up, what we saw earlier was a taste of what was to come. reporters pressing karine jean-pierre on the hunter biden whistleblower claims and exactly what the president knows. want this rather tense exchange. >> i would refer you to him and the doj. just not going to comment from here. >> text message -- >> what i can tell you, i know my colleague has dealt with this, he addressed this at the white house counsel. i don't have anything else to share. i just answered the question. i just answered the question. >> yes or no, was the president involved -- >> steven, steven, i just answered the question. it's not up to you how i answer the question. i just answered the question by telling you my colleagues at the white house counsel has dwelt with this. >> can you just remind us what
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your colleague said from the white house counsel so we have it. >> i would refer you to them and they will share their statement with all of you. >> question is about your statements from that podium. you've stated the president stands by his comment from the 2020 campaign that he never once discussed his son's overseas business dealings with his son. and you stood at that podium and you reaffirmed that. do you stand by your reaffirmation. >> nothing has changed. i just answered the question. you just asked me, does my statement change. i just told you nothing has changed. that's answering the question. >> the president was there two days -- steven, i'm calling on your colleague right now. go ahead. >> john: doing everything she can to not put a statement on the record or camera. >> aishah: and she cannot control how reporters go back and write their stories and wondering and waiting how long
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the press corps would take this, no answer, no answer, refer you to this person or that person, people are getting fed up. >> john: the moment they are. but don't forget how long did it take us in this briefing to get to there, how many questions about other ancillary items and issues were asked before they drilled down on this, and some degree like a school officials when they discover the bait is there, they nibble on it to some degree. she managed to skate and get away again, as did kirby. kirby packed up and left, too, after he was asked a question about all that. >> aishah: waiting to see what the president may say about this, whenever he is available next, maybe today. so americans have gotten two startling wake-up calls to just how far china spy program is reaching. first came in the form of the spy craft for about a week, and then a stunning report cuba is allowing china to operate a spy
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base located just 90 miles off the u.s. coast. scary stuff. historian at harvard kennedy school of government and an author, calder, thanks for joining us. i want to pull up a full screen for folks at home that may not realize just all the different ways that china is allegedly spying on us. spy base in cuba as i mentioned, the cranes at u.s. ports, the sky craft, cell towers, land purchases, on and on, and i want to ask you, i don't know what we are doing to them, but are we losing the intelligence war? >> well, it's great to be with you. thanks for having me on. i'm not able to say whether we are losing the intelligence war. the activities of the u.s. intelligence community and allies are secret and we shouldn't know about them, i don't know about them. we'll know about them in the future one day when the archives
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are revealed. but what we can say very sure, china is a for midable adversary with the collection on the united states and other countries. it is cross domain, involves human intelligence, involves cyber, it involves technical intelligence collection, all done for the overall grand strategy of the chinese communist party's effort to overturn the existing established international world order led by the united states. >> aishah: if they are trying to move us out of the way, push us out of the way and gain more influence, then should this administration continue to try to reach out and the president over and over saying that he is going to talk to xi at some point, but xi is not taking his calls. despite the fact, you know, all
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these instances of spying on us keep happening and yet we haven't quite admonished them for it yet. >> well, what i can say for certain is the history shows the importance of back channel communications, especially when tensions, international tensions are so acute. so during the cuban missile crisis and many people are drawing parallels with the cuban missile crisis in 1962 with events today, there was a back channel communication between the white house and the kremlin, so i would look at it slightly differently, which all the more reason for there to be back channel communications. i hope there are, but we should not know about them now. >> aishah: and calder, we are losing the a.i. race, we are not close to passing regulations on our own.
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discussed his son's overseas business dealings with him? >> no. i won't comment further on this. james, let me say -- let me say -- let me save you some breath. if you're going to ask about this, i'm not -- >> [question inaudible] >> i know you do. i'm not going to address this from this podium. i'm not going to do it. thanks, guys. have a great weekend. >> i'm not going to address it. it's time to go. where are we with this? karine jean-pierre said she had not asked the president about it. when asked whether she would, she said no. she also referred everyone to the white house counsel's office statement, which only really reaffirmed the independence of the justice department, but she wouldn't put that on camera. that's where we are at 2:56 friday afternoon. we'll see where we go with this monday. >> tense moments in the white house briefing. listen to this.
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lab grown chicken. lab grown now safe to eat according to the usda. could be coming to a plate near you. kelly o'grady is live in los angeles. kelly, would you eat it? >> you know, i think i would try it. i tend to be adventurous. so it's two startups in california, upside foods and good meat. it's not plant meat. they start with chicken but the plan is to expand. it's produced by feeting animal cells like sugars, vitamins, minerals. the cells did ply and develop it to fat and muscle tissue. you wouldn't see this in the grocery store any time soon. they're going to start small and partner with local restaurants because it's expensive to make and sell. they can make it in limited quantities. i spoke to upside foods and the hope that not only the economics play out but also improve the environment. >> you cultivate meat, you just
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grow the parts you want to eat. we're confident at scale you'll see not only substantial environmental benefits in term of energy, greenhouse, land and water but animal welfare. you don't need the mass raising and slaughtering of animals to supply our love of meat. >> a lot of folks are saying is it a food? controversial foods could make it in a way that doesn't hurt animals. back to you. >> those are real. just send in the aliens. it's over. it's a wrap. thanks, kelly. >> that is just weird. get ready to be teleported back in time. a new barbie movie is in the works. madison alworth has an early taste live at the malibu barbie calf fee in new york city. what are they serving over there, madison?
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>> they're serving up a huge dose of nostalgia. many photo opportunities like this. real size barbie box that i'm standing in. that's because it is the summer of nostalgia brands. they're looking to the past to get forward when it comes to finances. millennials, families, they're all about the old brands. i want to bring in ilene. she's been serving me all day. she's going to make me a cocktail. the movie cost about $100 million to make and expecting 55 million in opening box sales. thanks so much, eileen. it's the other things like the drinks, like the cafe, which could $40 to just get in. that doesn't include the drink or the food. people pay big bucks. barbie -- i'm clearly ready for it. but it's not just barbie. indiana jones also going to be in the movies this summer. mission impossible as well in july. the movies are tapping back in to the past to make future
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dollars. they're hoping for the barbie bump. barbie makes them a billion dollars a year. you look at a cafe like this, you understand how powerful nostalgia is. doing partnerships with gap as well. some items entirely sold out, guys. >> madison alworth, cheers to you. >> looking like barbie herself. >> yes. it's been so nice being with you today. >> have a great weekend, john. good to with you. i'm aishah hasnie in for sandra. >> in john roberts. i'll see you in a couple weeks. "the story" starts right now. >> martha: thanks very much. good afternoon. i'm martha maccallum. explosive new whistle-blower testimony that makes these answers from president biden increasingly difficult. watch this. >> i have never discussed my business or their business, my son's or daughters. >> i have never spoken to my son about his overseas business
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