have don -- ross to have to done. gregal cross -- greg palkot is tracking the latest. >> reporter: being watched closely by officials here in kyiv, could have a big impact on the war here and watched by a lot of people around the world too. there could be global significance to the what is happening in russia. it's called russian president vladimir putin's toughest test and an attempted coup, an armed uprising, a military mutiny. the man responsible for it all as we've been reporting all morning, yevgeny prigozhin. he seems to be sitting tight for now. he complained yesterday about the war, russian military leadership, russians fighter on his forces. that is why he took a number of his forces, maybe something like 10-15,000, out of ukraine and brought them into the southeastern russian city of process to have on done, and he achieved supremacy there with

very little pushback, anita. he's taken over the main military headquarters demanding to see the russian defense chief and the head of the military. of but the other front that we're watching closely is it seems that he has sent about 5,000 of his mercenary members up the highway towards moscow, could be within about 200 miles. not much resistance either from the russian military inside russia, but we knew that the kremlin is on high alert, sort of a counterterrorism regime. vladimir putin, of course, has been lashing out how. many a video earlier today, he said that prigozhin's actions were internal betrayal, treason, and he's promising a harsh response which, frankly, we haven't seen yet. yes, here in kyiv still russia is waging its war against ukraine. we saw 20 the cruise missiles come in overnight here. just about all of them were shot down, but there was some damage. later on in an online message ukrainian president zelenskyy had this to say about what was

happening in russia: russia's weakness is obvious, full scale weakness, and the longer russia keeps its troops and mercenaries on our land, the more chaos, pain and problems it will have for itself later. again, folks watching closely things here especially another development or, anita. chechnyan forces; that is, from chechnya farrell to vladimir putin, have also been operating in ukraine. well, they've just left ukraine, and they're heading to process to have done, could get very interesting in the coming hour, anita that. anita: it's hard to keep up. so in this prigozhin clearly has command of his troop, and as you mentioned, he is moving at great speed toward moscow. what could happen next? >> reporter: well, frankly, it's really, anita, the next 24 the, 48, maybe 72 hours which will tell the tale. any military analyst would have to say that russia could be able

to defeat 10, 15, 20 the, 25,000 mercenary fighters, but it is a very sensitive proposition because, frankly, for many, many months vladimir putin has been building up these guys and building up prigozhin as a big help for ukraine in their war effort. so to actually slaughter them, to actually go and then wipe them all out might cause a bit of a political problem for him. i think that's why we're seeing this handled sensitively, but in the end his message in that videotape call to his people was very strong, this has toen end, there's no compromise. they've got to deal with it, which means something could, should, possibly will happen in the next few days. back to you. anita: greg palkot, thank you so much for your insight and is that live report are from kyiv. thanks, greg. griff: thank you. joining us now from the faith and freedom coalition event here in washington, republican presidential candidate nikki haley who is also -- who was

also u.s. ambassador to the u.n. during the trump administration. madam ambassador, thank you for taking time. i want to quickly get your reaction, what do you make of what we're watching in russia? >> it's extraordinary to the see what's happening. and we really need to make sure that we're paying attention. this is -- i wish i could say that biden and kamala would be on this, but i'm worried that they're not. there is an opportunity here. you know that putin's been caught flat-footed. clearly, they didn't see this coming with their intelligence. keep in mind, the wagner group, this is a military force that very much helped putin in his fight against ukraine. he's at a difficult inroad in the fact that if he goes and destroys them, he is destroying a major part of who has been helping him push through this war in ukraine. if he doesn't, then the wagner group is moving towards moscow which putin has already left. so the next 24, 48, 72 hours are going to be crucial, but this is the time where america should be seeing this as the opportunity

that it is, get with our friends, with ukraine, get with all of our allies in nato ask quickly move fast -- and quickly move fast on how to make the most of this opportunity. we have to do that. griff: you say this is an opportunity and, clearly, this is the largest threat that putin has had to his rule since he took power in 2000. what as president, as commander in chief if you are elected, what would you be doing differently than, say, the front-runner, donald trump? >> i would already be on the phone with zelenskyy and all of our nato allies talking about how we're going to handle this going forward, looking at the opportunities with putin being very distracted to go and see how we can move this further. i would also say this is a time we should be very much strongly in support of ukraine, and our allies need to be speaking loudly for ukraine. this is a time where we should be pushing putin to get out of

ukraine and to make sure we're all standing with a strong force. this is an opportunity that requires action, and it requires action from all of the alliance and with zelenskyy. putin is distracted, caught flat-footed, he's got very few options, and this is a time where we need to be on our game and make sure that we handle this appropriately. griff: and, nikki, our viewers are watching video that purports to show the wagner group troops on the march of justice as yevgeny prigozhin calls it to moscow. how significant is this for the entire sort of geopolitical picture and what we're witnessing right now? >> well, i understand both sides are not great. wagner group with's not great, putin's not great, so, you know, the thing that we have to do is we have to be very careful. while there's an opportunity the, where we could make inroads to get ukrainians their freedom back, there's also dangers that we need to be careful of because

we don't know what putin's going to do when he's pushed in a cornerrer. this is a time to be smart and strategic, a time to lean into ukraine, and it's a time to pay very close attention to what putin is doing as we go forward. griff: we understand from this administration at the very least secretary of state blinken has been talking to counterparts in europe, and they are in a watching mode. do you believe that there is a time-sensitive decision or action that should be taken from president biden or the administration in the next 24 hours, or do you advise that we do wait to see what happens as our greg palkot has pointed out, we should know perhaps in the next 24 hours whether or not prigozhin's troops will get close to moscow. >> what i would say is what they need to be doing is not sitting back and and watching, they need to be planning, planning, you know, a plan a that should putin go and try and destroy the

wagner group and what happens there, know exactly how we're going to handle it s and a plan b if the wagner group does take moscow and what they do and how we're going to be handling that. we need to come up with good actions that are put ukraine on solid footing. we need to be very strong on ukraine. we need to be able to take opportunity with the fact that putin's very distracted right now, and we need to see what we can do to help the west and make sure our alliance is all and all on the same page to move forward. grieve give do you believe some of the rhetoric against supporting ukraine hurts situations like this? >> i think this is when we need to be loud about ukraine. this is when we need to talk about why freedom and democracy matters. this is why we need to talk about the fact that this is where right can win if we continue to support our friends. this is exactly why we didn't want to get out of ukraine, because a one for ukraine is a one for all of us. a one for russia is a win for china and iran and all of our

enemieses. and so this is anment opportunity where the a-- an opportunity where the alliance needs to be strong, we need to be loud, we need to make sure ukraine knows we've got their back. if they need additional equipment and ammunition, we should make sure they have it so they can finish this deal. this is a very telling moment in terms of geopolitics, and we need to be on the right side of it. griff: we understand already that some of our military trips overseas are being canceled at time. we are, obviously, positioning ourselves, perhaps, to deal with what comes, and really we don't know what's coming next. all we do know now is that you have this mercenary group -- mercenary group leader that has effectively taken control of the southern command center of russian troops in the south, effectively ending it. is now the time for president biden to become more aggressive in his rhetoric towards vladimir

putin who obviously is perceived as weak at this moment if many terms of the world view? >> it's not a time for biden to be aggressive against putin, it's a time for biden to be aggressive in support of ukraine. that's the way we need to look at it going forward. i mean, what you have is what's happened with the wagner group is, look, they've been complaining about the fact that they haven't had ammunition, equipment, they don't feel like the soldiers have been treated properly, and putin didn't respond. you're not going to see the russian people quick to go and, you know, go against putin or support of putin, but they're not going to top the wagner group because a lot of them have lost their children and their husbands in the war as well. so we need to be prepared. my husband is deployed right now on a year-long deployment. we need to make sure that we know where our military is, that they continue to be safe and that we know what we're doing with them, but we also need to be sure with our allies that they have the equipment, the ammunition, everything they need to do to see where this is going

to go. we need to be on stand by, but we also need to plan exactly how we're going to make the most of this opportunity and move forward. griff: republican candidate for president and a former u.n. ambassador, nikki haley. nikki, thank you for your insight and for taking time today. >> thanks so much. griff: anita? anita: for more now on major developments playing out in russia, joining me now live is senior research fellow for international affairs and national security at the heritage foundation, victoria coates. thanks for coming on with us today. really appreciate your time. we just heard from nikki haley, i know you were listening to that interview, saying that, you know, now is the time for the u.s. to look to see how we can move this situation further forward and show more support for ukraine with our allies and try to get putin out of ukraine because she says he's obviously distract thed right now, and this is an opening. do you agree? >> good to be with you, anita. and, certainly, i think

ambassador haley had some very strong words there. i wish she or someone like her were commander in chief right now. my issue is, you know, the biden administration has been very timid and incremental this their engagement in ukraine ever since they got the original intelligence wrong and it wasn't a 3-day war. and i think if this is an opportunity due to the destabilization of putin -- and i would just add the caveat that we don't have any confirmed reports of kinetic activity yet. we have to remember that prigozhin, the head of the wagner group, does run their biggest disinformation group. so we have to keep an eye on the possibility this is a false operation. but if it's not, you know, i do think there could be an opportunity there, i just don't see a lot of evidence that the biden administration was prepared for this or is ready to take advantage of it. anita: yeah. in fact, we have a note from our jennifer griffin that general

milley has canceled his trip ireland -- i'm sorry, to israel and jordan due to the situation going on in russia. so apparently the white house is a taking this very seriously. what do you want to the hear from the white house? what would give you a sense of comfort? what sort of statement from the white house do you want to hear? >> well, it would be nice to actually hear from the commander in chief. having the secretary of state convene a group of european foreign ministers isn't exactly a shining show of strength. and i think if the commander and chief came out and said that, you know, that this was something the united states did take very seriously, we've got to remember russia has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world. if putin is destabilized, we could be left with a nightmare scenario of a bunch of little russian statelets all with their nuclear arsenals which could be an enormous problem for the united states that would dwarf ukraine. we also have to keep an eye on what china's going to do, is

chairman xi going to the make a move to prop up his buddy, putin sentence if so, what is the -- putin? if so, what is the west going to do about it? this is, ultimately, a european war, and i think we need to see a lot more leadership out of the european members, particularly the members of the g7 who have economies that are of tremendous size and resources, and and they are the ones who are the tip of the spear on this because it's in their backyard. anita: uh-huh. the united states certainly has a lot of resources poured into that country though. also, you know, given what's been going on with the russian military, reports of low morale, low munitions, dwindling food supplies, really a lack of understanding among some of the troops as to why they're even there. is it surprising to you what's happening? in addition to these claims by prigozhin, and they're claim claims, we don't know, that his troops were fired on by russia.

is this surprising to you? >> well, it goes back to putin's basic leadership reason style which is to have a whole series of scorpions, one being prigozhinen, one being his defense minister, shoe guy, all of whom hate each other. ask he's been balancing hem off against each other. not, one of them doesn't get too powerful so he can stay in complete control. but eventually the scorpions do get into a tangle, and if that is what is happening here and they start to take each other out and one of them -- probably prigozhin -- becomes much more powerful, then he's really going to have a problem on his hands. and so i think, i think that's where we need to be extremely judicious about in this. watch out to see that we're not creating a worse monster by not being very clear-eyed about the dangers that this situation poses. if anita: yeah, no kidding.

last ten seconds here. this group is on the march to moscow. we hear they could get there in the next 24-36 hours. could we see a peaceful ending here? what do you think? >> that, to me, seems increasingly unlikely given the actors we have here. these aren't very peaceful people, to put it mildly, and i think if prigozhin really has crossed his version of the rubicon, there's no way that both he and the the minister of defense, shoigu, can survive this. i think putin's going to have to make a choice in that case, and it will be a very dicey situation in russia. anita: going to be a very interesting two days ahead of us. victoria cotes, thank you so much for joining us and your terrific insight. thank you. >> thank you. griff: let's get more insight into what's happening on the ground in russia from a man who's been in and out of russia since 1990.

ryan chilcote has covered the country for three decades including since the war broke out in ukraine last year. he's interviewed vladimir putin and joins us live from london. ryan, what do you make of all of this? >> well, this is extraordinary the stuff. i mean, we haven't seen anything like this in the 33 years that i've been covering russia with the notable exception, of course, of the attempted coup. in 1991. but this is in a way much more dangerous and much more unusual than the coup in 1991, and here's why. you know, in the collapse of the soviet union, in the aftermath, there was plenty of chaos and political instability in russia in the 1990s. the coup, the context of that wasn't extraordinarily unusual. when vladimir putin came to power in 1999, he presented himself as the guarantor of stability and peace, tranquility, if you will, within the country, an end to the

chaos. putin's brand is stability in russia, and it's fair to say that, you know, for much of the 23 years that he has been in charge, politically russia has been rather stable. now, of course, that started to change in february 2024 with the invasion of ukraine. but up until now, up until 24 the hours ago, everything that was happening was mostly happening in ukraine or at least because of the conflict in ukraine. so so even the cross-border incursions into russia which alarmed russians, even the drone attacks, they could all be sort of written off by the kremlin as basically this isn't just russia's problem, we're not faltering here against the ukrainians, it's the entire world and especially the west that we're fighting, and that's why we're having trouble. now, of course, prigozhin isn't a western implant. he is a friend, or former friend quite obviously, of vladimir putin. and this problem now is not

something that was created by the west, it is a threat to this perception that vladimir putin is this provider of peace and stability in the country. and so it's extraordinary, it's extremely unusual, and it's going to be very dangers over the next 24 hours. if -- dangers. drive give griff ryan, if you can, take us quickly inside vladimir putin's head. any insight into what he a may be thinking? >> yeah. he's thinking, how can i kill yevgeny prigozhin as quickly and cleanly as possible. i don't think vladimir putin fears that mr. prigozhin is going to take control in russia. what he fears is this ongoing pr disaster for himself. russians are watching what's happening. state tv the is controlled -- but russians get the news and they're watching it at home on the weekend, at picnics throughout the can country, get their news on their telephones from social media which still

exists. he wants that footage of this conflict, of this uprising to end as quickly as possible, get back to some kind of normalcy and get attention refocused on the war. it's a huge ask, but he desperately needs it. he's got only one thing on his mind, how can he kill yevgeny prigozhin quickly and cleanly. griff: coming up, we'll go live to the white house for more. stick with us. ♪

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anita: welcome back. back to our top story now as fighters from a private mercenary group seizing control of a critical russian city. for reaction here in washington, lucas tomlinson is live outside the white house with the very latest. lucas. >> reporter: well, this is one of those moments in history right now that nobody knows how it will end. the situation in russia has gotten so serious, that the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general mark milley, has canceled his trip to israel, pre-scheduled trip, and president biden's national security adviser, jake sullivan, doing the same. president biden just leaving the white house moments ago, that trip to camp david delayed because president biden was speaking to top nato allies in europe, very worried about what's going on in russia because people, again, do just

not know how this will end. the white house releasing a statement about those series of phone calls. president biden speaking to the leader of france, the leader of germany, the leader of the united kingdom. the leaders discussed the situation in russia, quote, that they also affirmed their unwavering support for ukraine with. so, anita, who is this yevgeny prigozhin who's leading this mercenary army called the wagner group and proceeding north at a rapid pace for moscow? this is putin's private army he used to dispatch to syria and africa over the past few years as a way to spread russian influence and maintain deniability. putin recently sent this force into ukraine when his regular forces failed to conquer kyiv, and they've been locked in a stalemate against ukrainian forces for months. it was the introduction of these mercenaries that proved decisive in the 11-month battle for the city of bahkmut, a win because of the wagner group. prigozhin rose to power as putin's chef. he took a hot dog stand and

flipped them into a series of restaurants and catering business in st. petersburg, and as putin rose to power, so did prigozhin. he's been sanctioned since 2016 by the u.s. government for running an internet troll: farm that interfered in u.s. elections. it's notable before the midterms last year, prigozhin boasted openly he was behind those millions of bots and fake personalities on the internet. a retired u.s. air force general spoke earliered today about this uncertain future. >> it could be disastrous as desperation overcomes logic and rationality. you know, anyone who reads history recognizes that putin could resort to anything to keep power and stabilize the situation that's occurred over the past 24 hours. so as i'm sure they are, nato forces need to be put on alert and pay attention to what's

going on because we really don't know what the outcome's going to be. >> reporter: now, the president of russia, of course, has the largest nuclear stockpile in the world, and these aren't just intercontinental ballistic missiles. the russians for years, going back to the '60s and and '70s, they've nuclear-tip thed just about everything, mines, rp pg. and that's one of the reasons president biden is huddling with his team. in fact, not just the pentagon, tate department, but president biden's cia director, he was the russian ambassador during the trump administration. anita: quickly, i know you've pent a lot of time on the ground in ukraine, what does in this mean for the ukrainian army? >> reporter: if you're in eastern ukraine, you're very happy that the wagner group is is not in eastern ukraine, most of its forces have go into

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griff: joinings us now on set to look at where the wagner group is on their way to moscow, senior fellow for defense priorities and retired army lieutenant tent colonel danny davis.. -- i lieutenant colonel danny davis. obviously, in the last three or four hours, prigozhin seized process to have on done -- ross to have on done, has been on

this march of justice, got to believed to be somewhere in here. we're tracking the movements to figure out this fluid situation. but i want to clear the drug on the map there to -- the drawing on the map to talk about what opportunity this possibly could mean militarily for ukrainian troops as they're watching in this chaos play out on the russian side. >> yeah, and that really remains to be seen, what the you know side is going to do about this. this is an opportunity that you just couldn't even draw up in your wildest fantasies, and certainly they're going to want to do everything they can to take advantage of the chaos and the distraction among the russian fighters. so we already know that down and around this area is where a lot of the fighting's been taking place on both the north and south of bahkmut and the zap rose a ya area right here. -- zaporizhzhia area. so far it's been complete disaster for the ukraine side. they've not been able to penetrate even the first line of the russians' defense. but over the last 48 hour, they've been massing much larger

forces because they've had a lot more, and they could have been ready to launch a third wave and attempt. they may take advantage of this opportunity now to see if they can't have the distracted russia and intentionally punch through at a weak point. happen's one of the things i'll be watching for. griff: okay. let's go back to prigozhin's march of justice, he calls it. what happens between here and moscow, we mow the oka river is significant. is it possible -- we haven't heard much, colonel davis, about whether or not prigozhin could be overplaying his hand to be this aggressive. this is the most serious threat to putin's radiorule since he took power in 2000 -- rule, but this is another thing. >> there is no doubt in my mind because he can doesn't have the power to do anything. he doesn't have the power to make good on all of his claims. the best that he can hope for is to have a big, bloody clash. i think he thought maybe he could say enough that putin would back down, that the minister of defense would give in to his demands, but they

don't have the come a bat power to go in there even if they wanted to because all of their supplies come from the ministry of defense. all they have to do is withhold it, and i don't think they could ever force their way into moscow. i don't think putin would allow that. griff: you mentioned the demands, if it's important to the highlight that. so pri goanses' demands of the -- prigozhin's demands of the russian military leaders was that they launch an attack somewhere in the rear of the wagner group troops. that seems to be a sort of straw that broke the camel's back in terms of his frustrations. and what's been a long-running feud between the wagner group, as lucas tomlinson called it putin's private army, and the official russian military. >> yeah. and that highlights a lot of the really bizarre points of this whole story. for months now, pri -- prigozhin has been making these irrational claims, things not proven true on the ground, and a couple of

days ago he said russian forces are running away from the battlefield, they have abandonedded a place about 20 the kilometers beyond the front lines and, obviously, they haven't. they get more and more bizarre. now he's claimed that they attacked them, and now who knows what to believe because a lot of these things haven't been proven. griff: colonel, we want to go out to london and check in with alex hogan tracking some new developments with regards to prigozhin and the situation is. hey, alex, what have you got? >> reporter: hi, griff, some news breaking coming out that is getting prigozhin has reportedly accepted a proposal by the belarus san president to deescalate and to stop the advance toward moscow. now, that again not verified by any means, this is simply a release that is coming out oi by the press. s office of the president. new video of troops, especially these mercenaries, advancing toward moscow -- moscow minute by minute.

all of this taking place, of course, since yesterday as this escalation and this change too we've seen yevgeny prigozhin was a close ally of russian president vladimir putin. but in the last 24 hours it's remarkable to see just how much has changed. it'll with very interesting to watch is ask see if anything does actually change. we start to see some of these roadblocks and some of these advancements start to scale back, we've not seen that at least in the video as of right now. it was yesterday, again, when this leader made this announcement, changing tune, changing course. he's since said that despite being a longtime ally of russian president vladimir putin that he's calling on specific leaders to come speak with him about what has been taking place. one of the aims is at sergei shoigu who is defense minister of russia, blaming him for starting the invasion last year. another person he mentioned was

gerasimov, prigozhin is urging both of them to come see him to discuss what he says simply is a betrayal of what russian citizens should be looking for in this invasion. russian president vladimir putin initially promised punishment to anyone in this armed uprising, but now changing tune also, urging mercenaries to surrender. yevgeny prigozhin is refusing to surrender, he's also saying that all of the mercenaries will not surrender as well. so that is a very different stance. from what we are hearing coming out of this breaking news with this press service release. so really, griff, we'll have to continue watching to see if anything does actually come out of this as we continue to see advancements like we have been seeing minute by minute in the last several hours, or if this is the beginning stages of a reversal and potentially talks to deescalate which is becoming a very scary situation for people with who live this moscow. the streets are now empty, people have shuttered in place.

embassies are urging people from around the world who might be in russia to stay inside and await further information. this could be simply a false flag, or this could be the sign that things are actually changing. griff. griff: i'll alex hogan live for us in london. to recap that that, general, not confirmed yet, reports that this march from prigozhin all the way up to moscow, he has stopped somewhere in this area just north of voronech and is wanting to meet with people like shoe guy or yes razz move. if he does decide to retreat, how does putin handle it, what does it mean for prigozhin? >> i think literally just minutes before we came on air i saw a release from prigozhin's telegram channel where he also said we have stopped our movement forward, and we're turning around and going back. so this seems to corroborate the potential that's a actually true. if so, that actually explains some of things we saw in rostov,

because some people were making comment that the wagner people came into the city and were unopposed. i think that putin's idea has been to solve this with the least chance of bloodshed possible and to have negotiations which he did also before the try to talk prigozhin down. and it could be, and this is one of the things i'll be looking for, what kind of a deal they might possibly have made because prigozhin may be looking for a way to get out. griff: that's the belarusian president. can he afford to let prigozhin just go back to the battle -- battlefield? >> no chance. he's burned his privilege. the best he can hope for now is to today out of jail or to a stay alive. griff: finally, when we look at the control prigozhin who is till in process to have the on done, what is his move? what does he do now knowing that putin wants to make him pay? >> if this report is true that

he has basically turned the troops around that he had coming in, i think that he's recognized that his hand has been overplayed and he has no more cards. i think now he's going to make whatever kind of deal he can to the today alive and maybe stay out of jail, but there is no way he goes back into battle, i don't believe. griff: fascinating stuff. colonel davis, thank you for being here as we follow this information. anita, back to you. anita: thank you for that. we are following the latest if from russia as putin vows to punish those involved in this mercenary attack. a look at the timeline of events coming up next. ♪ the rec league's self-crowned pickleball king. do you just bow down? no you de-thrown the king. pedialyte. 3x the electrolytes. they need their lawn back fast and you need scotts turf builder rapid grass. it grows grass 2 times faster than just seed alone.

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strategist and former blue dog coalition communications director. thank you both for joining us today to. really appreciate it. rolling with the breaking news here. quill, met me start with you and have you react to what i just read about this news alert from the ap that prigozhin has stopped his mar to moscow -- march to moscow in order to avoid shedding more blood. >> well, first of all, i think we have to remember that there's no good guy in this situation. vladamir putin is a tyrannical dictator who's conducted an illegal war in ukraine, and prigozhin, by all means, is a very frightening warlord who's committed atrocities in syria and ukraine. i think that's the important thing to remember. the other thing is that russia has more nuclear weapons than any other country on earth, so this highly volatile situation should concern everyone. but at this point, we really need to wait and see since we're less than 24 hours into this situation building. anita: yeah, no doubt. kristin, as a democrat, a democratic strategist, what do you want to hear from the white

house about this, especially the latest news that we've just heard? >> you know, i think it's interesting, you know, i want to hear, you know, obviously overwhelming support, continuing support for ukraine. i think, you know, there was a lot of concern, and i'll take it back to the debt limit bill that was passed about the defense spending. there were members on both sides of the aisle in the senate who were very concerned about the level of spending and the ability that would, you know, the impact that would have op our ability to fun or continue to support ukraine. -- to fund -- so i would like to see a lot of support, continued support from the white house for ukraine and agree, you know, we need to monitor the situation as it unfolds. anita: and how do you think this situation in general, what has happened in the last 24 hours, will affect the debate on ukraine, on this ukraine-russian war on the campaign trail? we certainly have on the gop side a mix of opinions there.

donald trump has one opinion, ron desantis has another opinion, mike pence and some of the others, there's a mix of opinions. quill, how does this affect the debate? >> well, this gives an opportunity for candidates like nikki haley and mike pence and even will hurt who have this national security background to the really flex their muscle and speak to this issue. i think president trump was very popular for his foreign policy when he came in in 2016 because he was willing to shake things up, hold nato allies accountable on spending, push on china, hold other allies accountable. but now we're in a very different world where there's an active land war in offand internal -- in europe, and i think americans a may be looking for a more steady hand when it comes to foreign policy which presents an opportunity for those types of candidates. anita: uh-huh. kristin, you mentioned you wanted the see continued strong support for ukraine and now is time, but how do you think this will play on the campaign trail when there are other issues at sake for there are domestic issues, inflation, interest rates, so

many other things? how long is the appetite going to be there for the american people for this? >> i think that's the the exact right question to ask. you know, it's very difficult. many campaigns around the country, it's very difficult to explain to voters, particularly independent voters, center-right, center-left voters about why they should really care about, you know, continued support for ukraine when they're struggling at home, when they, you know, they're thinking about their own health care, they're thinking about job security, they're thinking about inflation. so, you know, i think it's something that can be an opportunity for candidates, but you also have to -- it's difficult to explain that. so the domestic issues, in my mind, are always going to be front and center for voters. so, you know, i think the candidates have to think about what they think is right and how to communicate it in a way that their voters will respond to. but it is a difficult thing to do. anita: it is. unfortunately, guys, gotta leave it right there. a long time on the campaign trail to talk about all of these things.

quill and and kristin, thank you so much for joining us today and and have a good rest of your day. >> thank you. griff: great panel, guys. meanwhile, we're following the very latest developments out of russia. we're going to the take a look at the time of events next.i ♪te i can be free to do the things that i love to do. i hope when i retire someday, they say, that guy made this place a special place to come to school and gave as much as he could to help the community. whenever you're hungry, there's a deal on the subway app. buy one footlong, get one 50% off in the subway app today. now that's a deal worth celebrating. man, what are you doing?! get it before it's gone on the subway app. ♪ ♪ hit it ♪

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anita: this is a fox news alert, the ap, associate press, now reporting that the leader of the wagner groups, yevgeny prigozhin, has ordered his forces to the halt their march to moss to cow and return to the their camps after taking control of a southern city. for a closer look at this timeline of events, alexandria hoff joins us live with more. >> reporter: good to be with you. we're actually going to to go way back here because for months prigozhin has criticized the russian military leadership for what he's seen as failures to support his independent fighters. but prigozhin's powerful rise and relationship9 with the kremlin has formed an extreme arc. is so let's tart at the beginning. yevgeny prigozhin is from what's now st. petersburg. he was imprisonedded at a young age, by 1990 he was reportedly selling hot dogs. but his hospitallingty ventures took off after the fall of the soviet union, and he develop dod a very close relationship with vladimir putin and enters into several government contracts. ment by the 2000, prigozhin game

becames known as putin's chef, even catering a 2006 data that included former president george w. bush. prigozhin then enters into private military contracting. in 2014, the wagner group is identified for backing russian separatists during the war in donbas, the mercenaries continued fighting on behalf of russia in syria and elsewhere. move forward to february of last year, russia begins its assault on ukraine. by then, the wagner group had amassed 50,000 fighters according to the white house, recruiting 80% of them from russian prisons. they fought for and often in the shadows of the russian military. now, prigozhin's fighters were crucial to moscow's assault on the ukrainianty of bahkmut, all parties suffering massive losses. in may though, the wagner group's owner, who had had become more and more powerful, said his fighters or would be withdrawing due to lack of ammo and support. that's when we saw the relationship between the kremlin

and prigozhin publicly sour. he's accused russia's defense minister of treason and that is, of course, the same thing that president putin is accusing his former ally and his former chef of now, guys. anita: wow. what a history, alex, and it all started with a hot dog. alex hoff, thank you so much. griff: two hours and you know, anita, just seeing how far back these two men go, even if prigozhin's troops are return and retreat, we'll find out what happens, but it clearly does illustrate how delicate the situation is in russia right now with this war continuing in ukraine. it was great to be with you, anita. anita: great to be with you, griff, on this breaking news two hours. i'm anita vogel, "fox news live" continues with eric and arthel right now. ♪ ♪ smart bankers. convenient tools. boom.

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