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cocaine addict. republicans hoping for so much more blamed the justice department. >> there continues to show a two-tier system in america. if you are the president's leading political opponent, the doj tries to literally put you in jail. if you are the president's son, you get a sweetheart deal. howard: and donald trump likened it to the a traffic ticket, but president biden who has often said his son has done nothing wrong was tight-lipped after announcement. [inaudible conversations] >> i'm very proud of my son. howard: now, you can find similar cases where defendants drew hard hard -- harsher punishment, but this is no -- hunter biden has been an embarrassment, and this is hardly the end of the story. i'm howard kurtz and this is "mediabuzz." ♪

♪ howard: ahead, my sit-down with chris christie and my interview with conservative firebrand marjorie taylor greene. the pundits immediately clashed over hunter biden plea deal coming just a week after donald trump was formally charged with felonies, and some took a middle ground. >> hunter biden was just gifted a get out of jail free card by his own -- [inaudible conversations] by his own father's doj. nothing but a sweetheart deal that only other americans could dream of. oh, what a shock. >> if his last name wasn't biden, the charges would never have been brought with. but also that last name of biden may have provided him a better deal than a lot of other people would get. >> is joe biden still proud of his son now that he's admitted he's a criminal, liar and a tax cheat? >> the right-wing attacks marley

on hunter biden have general generally been in bad faith. all of the attacks on hunter biden are, of course, just a way to hurt his father. >> if it means providing an exit ramp for the president's son to avoid jail time for a crime that any conservative would get jailed finishing they're going to do that. >> there's a right-wing media machine that generates all kinds of commentary about hunter biden true, false or otherwise. howard: joining us now to analyze the coverage, mary katherine hamm, host of the podcast getting hammered. and kevin corke, who covers the white house for fox news. conservative commentators, some of them apoplectic about hunter biden's plea deal for probation. but even some moderate liberals are saying, yeah, he got off pretty easy. >> it does seem that the justice system and the press both have sort of endless energy to investigate and even sometimes fabricate things when it comes to, i don't know, russiagate, but when it comes to hunter

biden, we can't even be like, i don't know, it seems like this guy's working close with the folks and the dad might have been nearby, marijuana we should look into that -- maybe we should look into that. one particular example in particular, september 2020 when senators johnson and grassley put out their report, the subhead on the new york times reporting, the report delivered on wednesday appeared to be little more than a rea hashing of unproven -- [inaudible conversations] so then but this week kenneth vogel of the new york times citing that same study to say, oh, he did get a lot of money after they had this alleged text on whatsapp. maybe you shouldn't be three years behind the gop, and you wouldn't be if you were looking into these things. howard: kevin, this is a 5-year investigation, and media reports say hunter biden, his lawyers have been negotiating a plea deal for months on a million and a half dollars in income he didn't pay taxes on for two

years. that's what makes me think he got special treatment because if you're hunter smith, they're not going to give you months. they're going to say, okay, buddy, by next monday take it or leave it or we indict you. so it does seem like the average dude, you know, would not have an investigation lasting years. >> yeah. anybody who suggests there is not a two-tiered system of justice in this country is a liar, an idiot or a crybaby. the fact is this is not new. but the other part i think is interesting, kodak black is a rapper, he got 3 years in prison for ostensibly the same gun charge that hunter biden got. hunt hunter biden gets to walk, more or less. what happens here is i think there is a large number of, there's a large contingent of democratic voters who even recognize this and say, wait a minute, y'all come here every four years, you sing we shall overcome, but you don't do the the same sort of justice reform for us that you do the for your family members. people look at hunter biden say that wasn't fair, i don't care if you're right or left, and

that's a problem for this white house. maybe not right now, but it could be come november 2024. howard: the media have made hunter biden a symbol of biden family corruption. there's no question his muckraking in ukraine, china and perhaps if elsewhere is just an embarrassment and shameful. so, mary county run -- more -- mary katherine, were the pun pundits december sin thed to be -- destined to be disappointed? >> he's done nothing wrong, i've never talked to him about his business dealings, i have no idea about anything with china, it's going to turn out some of that is false which is a political liability for the president. and the press actually got a little energetic with him, or with karine jean-pierre in the press room the other day, and i wonder if some of that is sensing that vulnerability and we're making a turn. by the way, on the kodak black front, i've seen some fact checks that say, oh, this is completely different because he

had other gun crimes and drug crimes in his past and, there are -- therefore, he got a hard harsher sentence. hunter's were not charged perhaps because there's a with to-tiered system in which he's treat differently. howard: i think if the president is town even indirectly to help his son, it's going to blow up and be huge but, again, i haven't seen the evidence. in fact, one of the irs whistleblowers say that the u.s. attorney david weiss a had asked for a different title and didn't yet it from doj, prompting a rare response from attorney general merrick garland. take a look. >> i don't know how it would be possible for anybody to block him from bringing a prosecution given that he has this authority. howard: kevin, look, some media folks express sympathy for hunter biden because he has been a crack addict. joe biden has conducted interventions with him. but hunter is a grown man in his 50s, and convicted criminal,

so i just wonder what you make of that reaction. >> at some point the buck stops with the person. hunter biden made these decisions. but i think the bigger story here is one you just alluded to. s the inconceivable to me, and probably to most investigators, that president joe biden had no knowledge if whatsoever of his son's business dealings overseas. we've seen the whatsapp text, there could be other information out there. if that is true, then the president is on the hook for being a liar car, but more than that, he's on the hook for also being someone who perhaps participated in a pierce to raise money on his own name. we don't know -- howard: if that is true. >> if that is true. >> the thing is, it's an open question and that's fair, but it's largely because some people haven't been looking real hard for an answer. >> that's right. howard: the day that this broke, msnbc, be 20 the minutes on the judge in the trump case setting an august 14th trial date and then the analyst would say, well, that's not going to happen.

in other words, a minor procedural hinge, and after about 20 the, 25 minute, oh, yeah, the president's son is a convicted criminal. here's the contrast, hunter's plea bar with gain, misdemeanors a week after donald trump is arraigned on the classified documents case. i understand why the right is up in arms, but is there any comparison between these two cases. >> trump is the president, is so he has to answer for his -- howard: was. >> right. he was the president -- howard: right. not a relative of. >> it's not like he's sort of tangential. biden has to answer for his entanglements with hunter as well, but i do think it's different for those reasons. look, people are right to be suspicious, to be skeptical because the fbi and the doj have, frankly, fabricated things out of clinton-funded disinformation in the past, right? however, one of the things that struck me about indictment is a lot of this is coming from trump's own mouth allegedly, right? so you don't have to believe the feds, you can believe him, and that's where i think he's running into a lot more trouble.

howard: yeah. we'll get that in the next segment, trump's own mouth and also his lawyers, in other words, insiders who did not wish donald trump any harm. in a speech yesterday, trump told the conservative crowd i'm being indicted for you. he always tries to make it universal. kevin, you could look up cases where people were not prosecute for late filing of taxes, but there was a retired air force colonel this week who got three years in prison, as you probably know, for storing classified papers in his home. is there a lot of -- >> 100%. i think it's fair, i think as a journalist our job is to sort of dig where there is a possible story. and i think what has happened, i think broadly speaking, is some of the larger operations out doctor are simply ignoring obvious because if i were to compare and contrast, i think it goes without saying that if hunter biden is kevin korb or howard kurtz and he's -- kevin corke, first of all, where'd the money come from? howard: yeah. somebody gave you that money.

>> i just don't see how they can make the argument, speaking of the white house -- and i know they're trying to stay away from it -- i'm not sure how doj makes the argument that this is a fair deal that just about any american could get. it doesn't seem like that's true. howard: right. and the house republicans were investigating, i think they're not going to drop this, and even the u.s. attorney says it's ongoing. so do we have the, quote, weaponization of the doj, mary katherine, as many conservatives are saying, or do we have a former president lashing out an the special come, jack smith, who charged him and suddenly you're not the party of law and order? >> i think you can have a little bit of both. i think there's deep concern about the politicization of the doj and their incentives to go after certain people and to use energy for certain things and not other things. those are fair. but when the president, according to this indictment tht to be true and, of course, he has to level his defense -- he has also put himself in deep water. howard: both things can be true. >> absolutely right. howard: and the former president

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howard: in an extraordinary sit-down with my colleague bret baier who's drawn wisconsin partisan praise -- bipart san -- by partisan praise, he sat down with donald trump. >> why did you hire all of them in the first places? >> because i hired 10 to 1 that were fan a -- fantastic. we had a great economy. howard: what really made news was when pressed about

classified documents indictment especially after a subpoena was issued. >> i want to go through the boxes and get all my personal things out. i don't want to hand that over to nara yet, and i was very busy, as you've sort of seen. >> you then tell this aide to move to other locations after telling your lawyers you'd fully complied with the subpoena concern. >> before i send boxes over, these boxes were interspersed with all sorts of things, golf shirts, clothing, pants, shoes. howard: the golf shirts defense, even some conservatives are saying donald trump hurt his legal case maybe in the court of public opinion as well by the way he talked about classified documents in that interview with bret. what's your take? >> i imagine your lawyers are telling you not to talk about it, but you want to defend officer. look, i'm a procrastinator too, but there was a year end when -- between when they started asking for stuff, and anything he's charged with is long after that

year is expired. i just female like there was time to go true these things. and he would have spared himself a lot of this. howard: yeah. no, given the documents back, i think there would not be a criminal case. trump is on tape, according to the evidence, saying he may have brandished the iran war plan ifs before a political aide or kind of along that. how did this play on tv? >> it played, i think, poorly for the former president in this sense, it made it seem as if he knew that he was sort of taking his sweet time and that maybe it's my stuff, i'll give it back to you when i'm good and ready. but in his defense i would also argue, and i remember this distinctly when president obama left office, there was this tug-of-war with the national archives. this is common. does happen. what's interesting here is rather than continuing a negotiation, this escalated rather quickly, i think, for the former president, trump, and i think that's the real difference here. howard: right. bret baier tweeted he was surprised he got so much out of

trump given his impending criminal indictment. and i'm sure his lawyers were not in love with that but, or you know, donald trump doesn't always listen to the lawyers or others. let me play one more bit of sound from that interview, and this has to do with the 2020 the election. >> you lost the 2020 the election. >> bret, you take a rook at all of the stuffed ballots, all of things including things like the 51 intelligence agents -- >> there were recounts in all of the swing states. there was not significant widespread -- >> trying to get recounts, real recounts. >> there were lawsuits, more than 50 of them by with your lawyers some in front of judges that you appointed -- howard: i'm sure bret took a lot of flak for saying bluntly to the former president, you lost the 2020 election, but trump did not back off and started with his routine about how, you know, it'sst the feel -- it still remains to be proven that this was a rigged election. >> bret is correct, and a lot of

people don't believe and they are trump supporters, but this is what ill argue is that you have to be concerned with his unwillingness to make an argument here, that anything will be different time around. he was asked specifically the appeal the independent voters, specifically suburban with, educated women voters who he lost in the counties of all these major cities and who have been a real problem for the go gop's ability to win a national race. he doesn't make an a argument for them. in fact, he turns swiftly into the 2020 the controversy, and that is radioactive to those voters specific isically. so if he's unwilling to make an argument, how does he earn anyone back? howard: yeah. on that point, kevin, the key aspect is that trump's advisers, including kellyanne conway and others, don't obsess the way he does on 2020. but as we saw there, he simply refuses. >> there's an old saying and i say it often, a reason the rearview mirror is a lot smaller than the windshield.

donald trump needs to be focused on the windshield. every time he looks back in the rearview mirror at the 2020 the election, he's off message for what he intends to do as mary katherine said about the country in to 2024. i think the bigger argument i think i would make to him is if you refuse to simply say that's old history, you continue to draw criticism, oh, well, he won't move on, here is a guy who is recalcitrant. i don't think that's a good with look today or for 2024. howard: right. but whether he's talking about it or not, it seems to me, mary katherine, that he's still, and this is the second indictment, the first one i don't think much of, has this amazing lead. he's over 50, and many others are at 2, 3, 4. that's why he says he may not debate. so his retort, i think, to what we're all saying stop talking about 2020 the, you don't have to concede the point but just stop talking about it, is it's working for me. >> >> well, he may be right in a

primary. howard: in a primary. >> he's not going to be right in the general election -- howard: explain. >> because that appeals to about 35-40% of the gop primary voters, i would say maybe even less than that. some of those folks are looking at maybe an option here. the options, however, have to make an argument proactively against trump, and they have to do it sometimes on these grounds request, and that is a real tricky prospect. he is unconventional and at times a successful political candidate for that reason. he's very hard to come at. howard: right. and if you come at him, you get punched back -- [laughter] and that's part of his political strength. but at the same time, is it -- there has been some softening of his republican support in the sense that to you look at the entire electorate that will vote in november of next year and that's the first that we've seen them, otherwise he's been like a rocket ship. he's now doubled ron desantis. >> yeah, no question. i don't think he has much to worry about except the doj.

[laughter] i think politically -- howard: just a small matter. >> yeah, a small matter, right. as long as he is out there and run and win the gop nomination, i think he will, but there's a long time between now and then. a lot can happen. we'll see. howard: well, we've got to fill up our program even if it's a long time from now, long time from now. [laughter] but then he's also got, you know, a negative media that's largely against him, and republicans know that pretty well. >> and, look, again, two things being true at the same time, people are really against him. establishment is against him, particularly just the federal government establishment and these investigations and also the press. but he has to understand that, that's been the playing field for a long time, and he needs to be prepared to battle on that field, and and he does not seem willing to do that. howard: all right, mary katherine, kevin, great to have you on the set. ahead, my sit-down with with chris keysty, but up next a supreme court justice's behind the scenes deal with "the wall street journal."ha

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howard: propublica, the nonprofit newsroom that broke those stories about clarence thomas not disclosing financial benefits if from a billionaire pal, was pursuing samuel alito, also financially benefited from a wealthy hedge fund manager by the name of paul singer with the difference that this billionaire's firm had at least ten cases heard by the high court. but here's the media-backed story. propublica submitted questions to justice alito last week, the court responded there would be no comment, but alito did comment in the form of a "wall street journal" op-ed before the propublica piece even ranch why should the journal, which has criticize ised propublica as a left-wing outlet, have aided this strike? the story said alito failed to disclose on a 2008 fishing trip to alaska -- look at that fish he caught -- in which singer provided a seat on a private jet that would have cost $100,000

each way. another conservative donor provided free lodging at the luxury resort. in the op-ed titled propublica misleads its readers, allee to the wrote that he -- alito wrote that he didn't disclose it because the rules were vague. he says he never discussed business interests with singer, didn't recuse himself from the hedge fund cases because he didn't know singer was involved and, quote, it was and is my judgment that that these facts would not cause a reasonable and unbiased person to doubt my ability to decide the matters in question impartially. so why couldn't alito have provided those communities to propublica rather than privately collaborating with the journal? propublica says it was unfair of the journal without having read the piece, but journal editors called the alito story a fishing expedition, so to speak, and a non-scandal. mark zuckerberg and elon musk, this is wild, have agreed

to a cage match as zuck is preparing a site very similar to twitter. will this really come off? can you imagine the ratingsings? zuck, you know, has been training in jiu-jitsu. when bret baier asked donald trump how he might behave differently in the second term, here was the answer. >> i would like to be less combative. but i find the press is extremely dishonest. and if i'm not combative, i don't get my word across. howard: so hold on, donald trump less combative? he was combative when i first met him in new york picking fights with ed koch and leona helmsly with donald trump lemon, jim acrosses that, nancy pelosi, obama rosas -- omarosa, with jack smith, isn't that kind of in his dna? i think he was signaling the press constantly has him on the defensive, leaving him no choice but to punch back, and it's hard

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are afraid of him, some have future aspirations beyond the presidency that they want to do, so i think it's a combination of all those things. howard: what do you think of trump's indictment in this classified documents case in light of the comments he made on air in the bret baier interview? >> i think he's in big trouble, howie. the indictment seemed to me to clear -- clearly lay out an obstruction of justice case based on the moving of the boxes and the keeping of documents away from the government. but we actually -- he actually confirmed it by saying i didn't go through boxes because i was a too busy, and i had to go through and find golf shirts and hats, those kind of thingsesome look, there's not an exception under the grand jury subpoena rules for golf shirts and golf hats. i mean, this guy knows he had documents he shouldn't have had, and he was trying to hide it from the government. that's a crime. howard: you were a donald trump loyalist, you say he offered you the job of chief of staff. why can't you take it?

>> i decided i just couldn't work for him. if i disagreed with him, he would likely become petulant, fire me and ruin my reputation. and if you need references on that, go to rex rex tillerson, jim mattis, mark milley, bill barr, mick mulvaney, john kelly, all of whom he gave jobs to, high, important jobs in the government, cabinet-level jobs, and now calls them things like gutless pigs and cowards and boring losers -- born losers. look, howie, he is a petulant child. if he were your child, you would send him to his room, not white house. howard: trump just told sebastian gorka, as you know, that he never trusted you or wanted you in the administration. >> well, look, that makes him either a liar or an idiot, because he, in fact, did give me chairman of the opioid and drug abuse commission, he did make me chairman of his transition, he did put me in charge of his debate prep, and he offer me

secretary of labor, secretary of homeland security and white house chief of staff. so he is either an idiot or a liar, because if you would offer all those things and give those things to someone you don't trust, you're an idiot. and guess what? he did trust me. just because i thinks agreed with him that now all of a sudden you wind up on the other side, but i take it as a badge of courage. howard: you can't turn against trump until after he challenged the election and then, of course, january 6th. you said you thought you could help him, but he had changed. we had charlottesville, we had separating migrant children from their parents, we had the first impeachment involving ukraine. was there no point where you felt you needed to break with him? >> no. in fact, there were points, howie, what i did was tell him specifically climbing loan -- like on charlottesville, what he said was wrong. if you go back and look during the four years because i was on another network speaking fairly frequently, you'll see that i disagreed with him often and

said some things he'd done was wrong. but still he was achieving a lot of good things, in my view, for the country, tax cuts, regulation cuts, the abraham accords -- howard: justices -- >> and conservative justices on the court. so when he decided that his ego was more important than our democracy and decided to lie to the american people and tell them the election had been stolen and did it just the other night in bret baier's interview on this network, that's why i broke him, and we haven't spoken since december of 020. howard: why should people trust your judgment when you stood by the guy at least publicly for four years and only belatedly say he's unfit to be president again? >> it's not belatedly, i was saying it after he said in 2020. we all have different breaking point, a moment where we say enough is enough. that was my moment -- howard: did you wait too long? was it a mistake? >> i don't think i did, howe howie. i think right thing to do is to try to make the person in the white house the very best

president he can be, that's what i tried to do. turns out that i failed, so if you want to criticize me for not changing donald trump despite my best with efforts, i'll plead guilty to that. howard: once trump started hitting back at you, he took the aim at your weight, what was your reaction to that? >> like he's some adone us? -- adonis? [laughter] there are tens of millions of americans who, like me, struggle with my weight. i continue to struggle, i continue to try to do better and so do they, and a what's that got to do with my competence for office? i ran the governorship in new jersey for eight years, i think, in an energetic, successful way, responded to hurricane sandy working 20 the hours a day for weeks. i don't know what his point is. you know what it is? it's a bully on the schoolyard who teases you and makes fun of you. but here's my message to him, i don't care what he says about me, and i don't care what he thinks about me, and he should take a look in the mirror every

once in a while, maybe he'd drop the weight thing off of his list of criticisms. howard: right. you haven't exactly been secret about it. what does it say, governor, about republican party despite the stolen election, january 6th, despite the latest indictment that donald trump, i don't think there's any dispute about this, retains a stronghold on a major chunk of the base? >> he's the front-runner in this election right now, by, no doubt about it. i agree agree with you. i think we've gotten into a part of our politics where everybody keeps their uniforms on 24 hours a day, and so there's no room for disagreement. and secondly, no one's really taken off after him inside of our own party who had once been with him. and so i have been with him, i work whod hard to try to make him the best candidate, the best president he could be. he failed me, he failed the country. i'm now going to be able to make the case as someone who had been an insider and has seen it up close and is now going to be able to tell the american people what it's really all about. i think that's going to make a difference.

howard: could you be running to head a party that might have if existed in the way you first ran but after trump era no longer exists? are you a voice from the past? >> i don't think so. i think the things that i'm talking about in our campaign, about doing big things again can, about being a leader on the world stage, about reforming our educational system to give urban kids a chance to be able to achieve and accomplish everything that their god given potential heart attacks those are future issues -- those are future issues, not past ones. howard: assuming you raise enough money to make the fox debate in august, do you think donald trump will debate you? he basically says, probably not, that he's so far ahead of everybody else that why should he give a platform for everybody to take shots at him? >> oh, yes, he said it other night, it's unfair. again, mr. big, tough guy. the tough guy of the republican party, it's unfair. you know what's unfair? what's unfair is not giving all the republican voters an

opportunity to compare all these candidates right to up against each other and see how they perform. and you know what? it's disrespectful to the republican voters for him not to show up. and by the way, howie, if he doesn't show up, there's only one reason, because he's scared. that's the only reason, he is scared to defend his record. ing he saw what i did to him in debate prep, and he can't imagine that happening on national television. howard: you were on his side then. >> well, i was playing hillary clinton and joe biden, so i wasn't on his side in prep, right. howard: we look at the poll numbers, you've got trump over 50, real clear politics average. you're at 2, 3, 4%, and i know you just got in the race, and i know you always say hillary clinton and rudy giuliani were once the front-runners. but you said on cnn you've got him on the run. that sounds premature. >> i wasn't talking about poll numbers. howard: yeah. >> if i'm insignificant, which is what the implication is, why's he putting out a video about me? why is he going on his sebastian

gorka'sed podcast and spending a bunch of time on me? i'm inside his head, howie, and that's what i mean by having is him on the run. that's the first step in getting into him and showing everybody plainly and clearly that he's unfit to lead this country. howard: but you believe you can bring your poll numbs up far from where we are now, near the basement. >> if i didn't, i wouldn't be here. howard: you're not running for exercisesome. >> i am not. howard: chris chris christie, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you, howie. howard: after the break, marjorie taylor greene on making big headlines by trying to impeach president biden now. ♪ar ♪ ne but at the end of the day, you know you have a team behind you that can help you. not having to worry about the future makes it possible to make the present as best as it can be for everybody.

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howard: marjorie taylor greene is pushing a resolution to impeach joe biden. kevin mccarthy had it referred to committee. >> to prematurely bring something up like that, to have no background in it, it undercuts what we're doing in comer's committee. howard: i sat down with mp pg to talk about the media, censure and the cases against hunter biden and donald trump. marjorie taylor greene, welcome. >> thanks for having me. howard: you've drawn a lot of media attention over impeachment. what evidence can you point to for impeaching president biden now if it's that the border is a mess, whichs? it sounds like you want to remove him over policy

differences. >> well, i had two sets of articles of impeachment for joe biden. i have one set for the national crisis that he's created with his border policies, but i have another set of articles that i introduced on his first day of office pertaining to his corruption and crimes in ukraine. and now that i sit on oversight committee and chairman comer and the rest of the republicans have been leading this investigation into joe biden, we have discovered through a 1023 form that's unclassified that joe biden took a $5 million bribe with when he was vice president in order to get viktor shoken fired, the prosecutor that was investigating -- howard: right. i'm familiar with the case. i've got to jump in and say some of that remains to be proven. the president denies taking any bribe, but are you disappointed that your ally, kevin mccarthy, sent this to committee and said it was premature? >> no, absolutely i'm not

disappointed. i think impeachment is very serious, and i think it requires an investigation. and that's why i continue to urge my republican colleagues that this is an investigation that needs to happen. but it is happening. that's what the american people need to know. not only are we investigating joe biden on the oversight committee, but we're also investigating joe biden and his family, hunter biden and others, on many other committees. howard: right. >> and this is a process that's going to take time. howard: right. again, we'll see what's proven and what is not. according to cnn, daily beast and others, you accused your republican colleague, lauren boebert, on the house floor of sale thing or copying your inpeach biden resolution and call her a that isty little bitch, and i only use that word because you confirmed it. is this media loving a cat fight? because you haven't shied away from it. >> well, you know, i find it unfortunate that lauren boebert leaked that conversation that we had to the press. but once she leaked it out, id

had to confirm that that's, in fact, what i said. but here's real issue, i've introduce dod articles of impeachment, and each time i do so along with my other bills, i communicate with all of my republican colleagues and ask for support by asking their cosponsorship because i cosponsor many other republicans' bills. in order to pass things on the house floor, we have to get 218 votes, and that means that we have to work together. i'd asked her to cosponsor my articles of impeachment against joe biden on the border, and she never responded and, apparently, refused to do so. then when she introduced her own and forced them to the floor with a privilege resolution without even having the courage to talk to any other republican in our conference before doing so except speaker mccarthy and, apparently, a few others, yeah, we had a tense conversation when she confronted me about things i had said about

it. but this is unfortunate that this becomes public if on the house floor -- howard: just briefly, because i want to move on to some other things, why did house republicans censure adam schiff? the official reason is he led the russiagate investigation of president trump, though it doesn't help him with democrat, help him raise money. >> you know, we end censured adam schiff because of how greatly he lied to the american people. and his lies about president trump and the russian collusion hoax cost the american taxpayers $32 million. not only that, it tainted and tarnished president trump's reputation which is wrong, and members of congress should not be conducting their behavior through lies. howard: back with marjorie taylor green in a moment on coverage of hunter biden and donald the trump cases. ♪ postmenopausal women with hr+ her2-

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howard: more now of my sit sit-down with congresswoman marjorie taylor green. many media conservatives, not to mention republican lawmakers, are furious that hunter biden was able to cut a plea deal, two misdemeanor charges on tax matters and one on gun charges that won't even be prosecuted. but the response to that is the deal was cut, the plea bargain was agreed to by the trump-appointeds attorney in delaware. >> yeah. see, that's a situation that is mind-boggling to most americans. you know, most americans, actually, all americans unless you're the son of the president of the united states, you go to jail for the same crimes that hunter biden has committed. and now through the ways and means committee, the shocking information that they are released yesterday that hunter

biden did not report $2.2 million to the irs? hunter biden also wrote off paying prostitutes through his business as a business expense. you know, i'm a business owner of a construction company, and i know what writing off business expenses are, but writing off human sex trafficking is no type of expense anyone should write off for their business, and that's something they should go to jail for. it doesn't matter to me whether it's a trump appointed attorney, trump-appointed judge, it does not matter. that attorney is not doing his job. oversight republicans, ways and means republicans, judiciary republicans are unraveling the crimes of hunter biden faster than this attorney ever did. he didn't do his job, he didn't go far enough, and these charges are a pathetic excuse that the american people are not buying. as a matter of fact, they're furious over it. howard: all right. well, hunter biden obviously did plead guilty to a couple of

charges. i take your point. the media seem far more interested in donald trump's felony indictments in the classified conclude units case than in hunter biden, at least much of the media. but in fairness, aren't they two vastly different cases? >> absolutely, they're different. and here's the situation that the american people know, they're tired of the media spending over9 90% of their time trashing and bashing donald trump while never really spending that much time talking about joe biden and people like hillary clinton who did the very same thing and much worse. and look at joe biden. he has the classified documents all over the country from chinatown here in washington, d.c. all the way to the university of pennsylvania, to delaware in his garage where the door opens and closes to let his corvette out of the garage. but yet they're going after donald trump? i mean, this is just an outrage. so these felony charges are the same old playbook that the democrats use over and over

again, and that's charge donald trump with crimes that he hasn't committed while completely ignoring democrats who have committed real crimes. howard: well, the president remains urn investigation by a special counsel -- under investigation by a special counsel. marjorie taylor greene, thanks very much for joining us. >> thank you. howard: i thought yesterday we'd be pending part of the time on the russian mercenary if group that had turned on the kremlin, was capturing cities and got within 100 miles of moscow, but then the head of the wagner group abruptly changed his mind, called off the invasion, made a deal to go to another country and criminal charges against him would be dropped. now, the media, of course, are grappling with the question whether and how much this weekend -- weakens vladimir putin. i'm not sure we know full answer or will know full answer until becoming -- the coming days and perhaps even weeks. that's it for this edition of "mediabuzz." i'm howard kurtz.

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