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room for this show. on sunday eve inni evening, see you next weekend, good-bye "life, liberty and levin" starts right now, actual we lied it is in 10 seconds. >> it's a great one. ♪ mercenary fighters ravel and russia. then retrieve radios tries to determine what this moment reveals about putin's hold on power. ♪ versus roll their armed vehicles out of the southern russian city they had seized just days ago. it's the end of a short but stunning challenge by a defiant mercenary leader who had ordered his troops to march and mask out and now appears to be exiled. global leaders are left to game out what is next for superpower
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already struggling to wages war on ukraine. we have a live report what this means for the kremlin and will sit down exclusively with the key member of the senate foreign relations committee. democrat ben cardin to ask what the u.s. knows and how we should respond. plus we will ask about critics is a president biden is a bungling the u.s. relationship with china. and we will debut a brand-new survey from the reagan institute on how americans really feel about the u.s. position on the global stage. then, when you're after the dobbs decision states make bold moves on abortion and some candidates draw a line. >> the supreme court of the united states set roe versus wade to the ash heap of history where it belongs. >> former vice president mike pence calls were 2024 test on one of the nation's most divisive issues. asks for his rivals to join him. >> i did this call and every other candidate. for the republican nomination to
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support a minimum standard of 15 week band too. >> pence joins me exclusively to discuss its pitch to voters. one of polls show up may not be a winning argument. then yet another republican joins the crowded race to beat donald trump at his bid for the white house. our sunday panel is here on the ever expanding republican field. all right now on "fox news sunday". ♪. shannon: help from boxes in washington. world leaders are only just beginning to analyze the fallout from russian mercenaries challenged vladimir putin mercenaries who had been fighting alongside russia and ukraine accused moscow of a deadly strike on their troops. the group then began advancing on the russian capitol as the world watched. ultimately they were treated pettis is been breached by advisors at all this is unfolding in a country where the spirit little press freedom. but we will bring you what we know this morning.
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in a moment senator ben cardin of the foreign relations committee joins me too talk about how the u.s. should respond. first return to greg palkot who is alive and kyiv with more and what happened and what it means for ukraine's plans to beat back russian forces, hello greg. >> hi shannon. it's the morning the day after. looks like we are back from the brink in russia but it also looks like there's a lot of damage on a lot more questions. the biggest challenge to russian president vladimir putin and more than two decades of rule and attempted armed uprising. the man responsible the wagner group mercenary chief yevgeny prigozhin he complained about the war, russian military leadership in conduct. then pull this fighters out of ukraine into the russian city of rostov-on-don with little trouble he took charge. then he sent his forces towards moscow for the kremlin braced for an attack latimer putin branding the actions treason as washington watches no reported u.s. intelligence had earlier suspected something at least was
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afoot. reportedly took bowlers president alexander lukashenko speaking to cool things down. the wagner chief pulling forces back to camps in ukraine for guaranteed security but we still do not have confirmation of the wagner movements was supposedly to be sent to belarus' demands for russian defense reform unaddressed. some of his mercenary army to be absorbed by the russian military. during all of this year in ukraine, officials and a lot of others watching as well. president zelenskyy said it was a sign of chaos and instability and russia taking advantage of the confusion across the border. he launched new inroads into russian fight lines all the past 24 hours. shannon, the big loser according to most today is really vladimir putin. hired running rampant a mercenary boss criticizing your war plans good look for man supposedly in control.
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maybe that is why state tv is running reportedly a pretaped interview with putin today in which he says he is confident and the special military operation. that is what he calls the war here. confidence is no shaken by this weekend's events. shannon: greg palkot reporting live from kyiv thank you very much jeremy now democrat senator ben cardin welcome back to "fox news sunday" picnic shannon to be with you thank you. shannon: how concerned are you at this moment? what does this say about putin's hold on power? there's instability in a conscious thousands of nuclear warheads. >> putin brought this upon himself to business with the wagner group and we know it they are there thugs dealing with thugs. this was not unexpected problem to develop. putin has lost his credibility with his own people, his account of what he went into ukraine is now been challenged i think with public opinion and russia itself. we recognize we have to be very
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careful in regard to the nuclear capacity of russia. there has been no signs to date they have made any movement in that direction for. >> wall street journal just has a piece out the editorial board this morning saying this, the moment would seem right for ukraine to summer offensive and take territory from the invaders if only the u.s. had provided more advanced weapons the sooner ukraine will be be a better position to do so. i we failed on that front? >> united states has provided incredible amount of military equipment to the ukrainians. i think $75 billion to date. we have organized international community, provide a great deal of assistance. can we do more should we do more? absolutely this is a critical time for ukraine. this counteroffensive is going to be defining as to where were going to be the next year or two. it is incredibly important we maintain our support and not be full by what is happening in russia today as to the needs of the ukrainians. >> you been supportive as you said it considering that aid as this drags on 16 -- 18 months into this.
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the reagan institute has a brand-new summer survey out they pass people while a majority a slim majority does support continuing u.s. aid. those health concerns are posed but a going over there saying this. they're worried about unmet domestic needs here in the u.s. for their word about risking, provoking rush even further, corruption in ukraine depleting u.s. weapons stockpiles. what is your case to the american taxpayers to the have those concerns? what ukraine is a frontline for protection of our democracy. we know mr. putin would not stop with you. he would continue his efforts in europe. we are not safe this is our frontline protection of our democracy. this is an investment in ameri america. so it yes we have to deal for domestic needs but we also to protect her national security. we need to be part of helping ukraine defend itself. >> russia has been saying in essence the west being involved with going on in ukraine is them closer to an alliance with china. there's been a lot of talk about obviously we have telegraphed china should not be sending legal aid into russia.
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butts, is there now an opportunity with what the wagner group leader prigozhin has come out and criticize russia's military criticized russian leaders. is there a chance now for the u.s. to telegraph to china this alliance with russia if it gets any tighter is going to be a losing one? should we use this moment in a conversation with china? i think secretary blinken did telegraphed that in his meeting in china. so yes absolutely. we want china to recognize russia is not a good partner and russia is done invading sovereignty of an independent state, that something china does not want to be on that side. so yes we have made it very clear they need to stop their support for russia. and certainly not increase the amount of help they give in that country. >> he referenced secretary blinken's visit there is and why wanted to accomplish as a military to military communication that is very important to avoid things escalate out of control.
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whether jets seem to both of our reconnaissance jets are warships in the taiwan strait. those kinds of things to you said china would not agree to that even those communications there, did we get anything from that meeting? what you say to those essay president biden is his administered in a bungling relationship with china? what source i understand china's main concern about us is the economies that want to continue to do business with america and the consumers. we recognize that we leverage that for our own strategic needs. we also recognize it's extremely important for both china and the united states have military to military confrontations. two deconflict for that is absolutely essential. i think some steps were made in that direction during secretary blinken's visit. topless bars and many of us would like to have seen but it was a first step after a very, very frosty relationship. quick to slow folks who publicly were saying they did i think the secretary should even go and reward this behavior we have not had an polity for the spy balloon in any number of other
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issues. the funny police stations seem to be tracking dissidents here in the u.s. should he have gone? and again did you get a deliverable for the meeting? it seems not rewarding china he was there our interest for u.s. interest we have strategic interest in what is happening in china. so absolutely, we need to have communication but we do it under our terms under our values. we're never going to condone the human rights violations are the way there connecting congress. we need to have those conversations in order to be able to advance he was interested. >> you mention human rights issues. you signed on to letter this week when india's prime minister was coming into town he said the president this letter numerous lawmakers dozens of you signed on to you said series of independent credible reports reflect troubling signs in india toward the shrinking of political space, the rights of religious intolerance. the targeting of civil society organizations and journalists and crime restrictions on press freedoms and internet access. there were a handful of house democrats and not showing up for
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the joint address by the prime minister they called it an embarrassing spectacle. said undermines are built is u.s. to speak out on things like human rights violations but should this administration have rolled out such a red carpet for india's prime minister? what's our relationship with india is critically important to the united states. we already talked about china. but india's part of the quad which is the countries of japan and australia and the united states dealing with the end of pacific region because of china's influence. a counter china's influence. our relationship with india is in critically important in regards to our concerns about china's influence in that region. are we concerned about their human rights record question mike should we raise that bilateral's? absolutely. we conduct a foreign policy thinner values. india is not doing what it needs to do to protect the rights of citizens. shannon: don't ask about abortion as well this weekend marks the one-year mark since roe v wade was overturned. what tucked earlier with vice president former vice president mike pence about this were in play that interview in full just
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a minute. i want to play when he says is the democrats position on abortion, here's what he says. >> joe biden and the democrats actually support taxpayer-funded abortion all the way up to the moment of birth. that is supported by maybe 10% of the american people. leaving aside a deeply offensive it is to millions for quick to sign onto a senate bill called the women's health protection act of 2023 critics sick is far beyond roe but actually codifies with the former vice president was saying there. what is the democrats position where you draw the line? what's we support roe v wade with that that was established that was established law firms 50 years. the supreme court decision was a radical decision that reversed the rights of women to make their own health care decisions. so we support roe v. wade we support the right of women to be able to make their own decisions about the reproductive rights. it should not be subservient to a state legislatures are doing progress one of the states where it is actually legal up until the due date? is that something democrats support? >> we support the right of women to make their own decisions.
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this is a personal decision made by women with the advice of their doctors and their family. we do not think we should try to tell women when they can make those decisions. shannon: is there a cut off for point? what snowed to me it's a healthcare decision is up to women to make that decision. shannon: enough in the decision the supreme court seems less settled than ever before states act in many different ways that are thinking would appreciate stopping in today. up next politics panel on the surprising new analysis of eyewear a critical voting block is drifting away from longtime supported democrat
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shannon: cheers for the wagner forces marching backing up the plan to march to moscow. plans of coving a u.s. loser trying to assess the impact on russian president putin and his war in ukraine. for more analysis in the weeks biggest political stories let's bring in our sunday group former state farm spokesperson morgan ortagus. juan williams former white house advisor karl rourke white house correspondent jeff mason. good to see all of you. morgan, because your time that state department or start to head is the gop field now handle this? how do they respond? is your going to be an advantage to nikki haley who have more foreign policy experience and how they dress it? >> see him interviewing her wednesday new hampshire i will ask for that very question. we look the ronald reagan polling you talked about earlier that came out, one of things that was surprising to me is how much of the republican party still, 70% support military --
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want ukraine to win. the overwhelming majority still support military aid to greet even in their publican party that's a little bit different from the narrative that we see. and listen, you saw what happened yesterday putin has spent a year end a half trying to take over another country he can barely keep control of his own country yesterday. you have the ukrainians on a counteroffensive. they certainly have the moment momentum. what was fascinating to me and everything going on since friday night in russia, is putin's a best friend xi jinping was totally silent for they are supposed to have a no limits partnership, his bestie was nowhere to be found. shannon: it might be having conversations right about now the reagan institute summer institute survey polling when asked about this, is the u.s. better served by withdrawing from international affairs and focusing more attention on the proms at home? overall the number 65%. karl, you would do the gop they had the highest number followed by independence but the majority of americans have this attitude
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i found surprising in the polling. they want more domestic focused reports i'm not surprised that's what we have always been. believing we are protected by two great oceans and friendly names the north and south sort of a reluctance by americans be involved in the world. we hold sometimes conflicting and complex views. as morgan pointed out the post was very strong support for not only the maintenance of our support for ukraine but also 74% believe it's important we defend human rights abroad. 85% said we ought to maintain a strong military and 76% said we need to promote international trade. the natural isolationist tendencies of america protected by the pacific and atlantic are a conflict of used to hold deeply. >> one of the things the candidates are going to have to be out there talking about, pulling out this week's when governor desantis might be making some tiny inroads to the massive lead former president trump has.
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this is what governor larry hogan who rule that is on gop rent had to say this week about his take on the desantis campaign. constantly campaign is were the worst i've seen so far. he has dropped like iraq. >> when you make of that, that assessment as they are out there is getting serious now. >> it is getting serious. that assessment is one the spies shared by who suspected governor desantis would come in and really knocked the socks off the republican party and certainly the people out there in the republican realm who did not want to support former president trump. that said it is still early. president trump has a huge, huge and leave the poll shows there is room for movement and the fact governor desantis has moved a little bit is giving some hope to his supporter. i do not think the clip you just played is an unusual one in terms of the thoughts amongst some of the republicans. shannon: he got more companies with former congressman for the cia during the group this week
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actio's notes is most diverse gop field and half the folks on your people of color. >> it started stunning when you look at especially with will heard jumping in this week. there's lots of people of color are seen opportunity gain exposure by helping republican party. until that identity politics white identity politics account and the it's an 85% non-hispanic white party. in general comes to my mind is after 2012 the party had postmortem we need to get more diverse between to do better with women. but what we see now is gop awards itself. what happened in 16 was a truck came in and doubled down on the base on the white populace grievance anchor. and 90 people like nikki haley like tim scott, who are saying the future of the party is really moving in a more diverse direction. there make a big effort there.
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shannon: carlos eat pitching over there to join this conversation. >> i think they are doing it for more than cosmetic reasons and one suggested in his opening remarks they are conservatives who just happen to be people of color. i think that's a healthy thing for our country to have. i welcome increased diversity in my party. but you do not think is done out of convenience sent out a principal good for that. >> think it's hard for party i think the majority of trump voters believe in replacement theory. what the democrats are is trying to replace white voters. i think there are people now who are policy issues something policy in terms of social safety net, police reform issues very important to the minority community. these issues are not the issue is tim scott or nikki haley are running on. >> want maybe it's not all about race maggots about how they want a good job though a strong
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military eye sets with having my home state of texas with lots of hispanics in south texas that i'm working in the energy industry. one party cares about my job and my future. i believe a national defense. i served in the military one party stands for strong events i go to every sunday i got i believe in a party that believes in traditional values. [inaudible] they think that the hispanic community is naturally inclined. [inaudible] shannon: too that point it's almost as you're reading my notes, juan. axiom says that their headlines latinos slow drip from dems something is growing different on cultural issues and crime republicans the edge in handling the economy. >> interestingly and that point i think it's 32% of latinos do have strong opinions about either party. which are someone who knows branding marketing that's a great opportunity for the republicans.
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in the diverse cast of people running for president as we talked about earlier, you do have someone who is hispanic the mayor of miami. he of two indian americans come to black americans and will heard very well this would be hard for discussing on the debate stage. the best thing going for the republican party right now is joe biden kamala harris because joe biden looks like a weak and feeble president. if you ask the average american xi jinping said his military the pla's be ready for military incursion into taiwan by 2027 according to our pentagon. at that is accurate who you want to be the president in the next election to oversee a chinese military incursion question do you really wanted to be divided or do you want to be someone else? what's your biden looked pretty good this week and didn't? boy he led the allies he warned early about putting invading ukraine. who looks like a weak leader right now? america's enemy vladimir putin frequency went to camp david which was a wise minute kept them out at the scene he has been largely out of it. >> you are whiny because joe biden did a good job.
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i think did a good job by downplaying it. don't claim him any credit for the resolution what's happened. >> are you kidding question would let me get this straight desantis at the territorial dispute. former president trump my friend i would handled it very quick to her reaching for trip i need to be acknowledgment has success even by their publican party. i will acknowledge additional marketing by keeping his mouth shut and heading to camp david progressive's over recent polling shows him upside out a number of issues it certainly becomes a foreign policy people do now seems a strong leader on the front regards to pull this conversation together that's true karl said before people do vote based on domestic verities. but they also the country to be right about that what you know they are secure. you want to know these other foreign policy issues are being handled. but if you lose track of the important domestic things and you are in trouble. i think some of the discussions are having about hispanics and
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african-american voters the biden people the biting campaign certainly not ignoring the fact president trump picked away some people from those constituencies in the last election. that is something the biden campaign will be focusing on paid whether it's about the pope for about convenience it is political reality. that's unimportant to both parties predict a significant number of people faced away from the democrats in 2020 were black and brown. >> absolutely. are you going to pay extra pay per view to see the rest that conversation over there, panel thank you all very much. sue next week my exclusive far vice president mike pence pressing his robin primary opponent to draw their lines on abortion. when you're at the end of roe v wade can the party agree on a
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the supreme court overturned roby with the impact of the landmark decision has been playing out still not over. polls show a majority voters still disagree with nick wrote democrats it's a big part of the reason they not only held the senate but also picked up seats. former vice president publican presidential candidate mike pence says he thanks he is underway first party to win on the issue i sat down with him this week. once welcome back the box disintegrate to have you with us today.
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>> thank you shannon good to be back. shannon: lester to roman republican strategy outlines efforts of the gop nomination displaces quality trump are angry with them never trump forming part of the ministration supported and impeached convicted promoter it's a hard path. you are in single digits in the polls right now. what kind of constituency or coalition can you put together that in mind? what's first off it's good to be with you. over the last 20 years of an vice president of the nice days, been a governor of a successful state i've been a leading house conservative for 12 years in the congress. we felt compelled to stop forward and offer our candidacy. we are going to take our case our background, our experience, our vision to bring america back to common sense values for every voter review and i've known each other since my days in the congress of the united states. univac on a spy in spenders in my own party. you have the stance i took for the right to life and as a
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member of congress i authored the first legislation to defund planned parenthood but it ever been offered and passed in the house of representatives. he years as a governing the story of our family values will be ready day one we have the privilege to serve as president of the united states to steer our country back to the common sense conservative principles that have always made a strong and prosperous and free. shannon: are not afraid to get into the difficult issues like abortion you have said you want the entire gop field to commit to at least a 15 week national band. here is a warning from a poll that is out that says americans overwhelmingly oppose a federal law banning abortion nationwide by 80 -- 14%. those surveyed opponent national benefiting 65% of republicans and 83% of independents. somehow distilled in american public according to these numbers do not want a national band? personally pro-life and i will not apologize for. this weekend we are celebrating
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a historic victory. one year ago the supreme court sent roe versus to the ash heap of history. and gave american a new beginning. i cannot be more proud of the some 20 states that have advanced protections for the unborn and support for women facing crisis pregnancy. and it's imperative the primary campaign begins butman men and women step forward for office and a republican party all across the country we speak with clarity about a commitment to the sanctity of life. we made it clear we will stand on principle but will also stand with compassion. 62 million unborn lives lost in just about as many women who have endured two generations under abortion we need to bring a message of grace. we need to bring the message of kindness.
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twenty to to come alongside women in crisis pregnancies. that's how we are going to win hearts and minds. it is so much more important than politics to me. but i also think it's a winning issue. i did this week: every other candidate for the republican nomination to support a minimum standard of a 15 week ban on abortion the national level. that would align american law with most of the countries in europe that literally ban abortion after 12 -- 15 weeks. art laws are more in line with north korea, china, iran with other western countries in europe. i fully support that in candidly as others have shown decisive number of american would support legislation that bans abortion after unborn children are capable of paid about 15 week mark. and so i believe we cannot just
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rest or relents antilles restore the sanctity of life center of american loss. shannon: you talk about grace and meeting up or they pentagon came out the policy rights travel reimbursement costs for women who are seeking abortions that have to travel away from where they are stationed center tommy tupper phyllis put a hole on hundreds now of military promotions because of that the secretary of defense has its created" clear risk to our national security. you agree with his position? what to strongly support the standard center top of those taking. we simply cannot have the federal government subsidizing abortion in this country directly or indirectly. that includes at the pentagon and i commend him for the stand he is taking. but look i hold the view of the way forward is to expose the extremism of joe biden. and the democrats and stand clearly with compassion and on principle for the sanctity of life.
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shannon: another tough topic, social security and medicare. you've waited into the waters that are dangerous in shark infested for most politicos out there. you flooded that have let younger americans but their withholding in a personal savings account. daily times has up a snake notice date diverting any portion of social security taxes depriving account to make the program unworkable on untold wealth into wall street promoters and leave millions of families destitute. why take this position when you notes would be the critique of it? >> first off joe biden's policy on our national debt is insolvency. and sadly my former writing makes policy is identical to job items. both of them said and i would to talk about common sense and compassion reforms to entitlements. despair future generations of a mountain range of debt pay entitlement to 70% of federal spending today. that number is only growing. i think we all better to those
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three beautiful granddaughters of mine that were born in the last two years. we have a national debt today, the size of our nation's econo economy. it is scouted over the next 25 years to grow to $150 trillion. if we don't act in the days ahead and we put it off for 25 years, those granddaughters of mena my kids are going to face with all bad choices. that is why really do believe the time has come to have leadership at the national level that will be straight with the american people about the debt crisis we are facing. make it clear to americans that are in retirement there will be no change in social security or medicare. for americans are going to retire next 25 years there will be no change for them as well. but for americans under the age of 40, i think they would be open to the kind of reforms that would transition new deal programs into a better deal. people coming up to me and saying thank you.
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thanks are in policy about this for it to i will provided by president of the united states. shannon: i wanted a couple superquick lightning grip rounds i get answers raising the story should the supreme court have a code of ethics when that is enforceable? >> look i have immense respect for justice clarence thomas and justice samuel. and i take them at their word. they acted in a proper and separate way in this regard i just cannot help but believe that we are seeing here is politics pro public at left-wing organizations. we will never forgive our administrations for a.pro-life justices to the supreme court of the united states. and i think i'm lost in the ballot box or back to tripoli the supreme court. as you know other justices who had been appointed by democrat presidents have had some the same issues come up.
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i think we're just looking at politics and have great confidence in the justices serving us today because you said is too premature to talk about possibly pardoning president trump. there's been no trial that assumes he would be convicted. if he was would you or would you not entertain a pardon for him question should he be president? >> president of the united states, take the pardon authority very seriously. i've been a governor i've actually granted pardons to people. there's a very careful process for evaluating that. i would apply that to every single case in that matter. i appreciate you raising the point. i don't and fms's on other people running for president in the republican primary assume the present will be found guilty printed terribly premature and it shows a disrespect for
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judicial system to talk about that now. the charges in the indictment are serious. i cannot defend what is alleged that the president is entitled to his day in court. please let the process before that the former president make his case. for my part i'm going to stay focused on the challenges facing the american people i'm going to work our heart out. not just to win the republican nomination, but to win a great victory for our party and for the american people 2024. shannon: was two out of the campaign trail things are stopping in. >> think a shed in her. >> fox news channel is your home for the first 2024 republican primary debate. bret baier and martha mcconnell moderate the debate which is live in milwaukee, wisconsin august 23. coverage begins at 9:00 p.m. eastern right fox news channel. make a deal federal prosecutors over's failure to pay all his taxes. but whistleblowers have come forward to say this much more to
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i've had more thorough than special counsel had. he had and has complete authority. as a said to bring a case anywhere he wants, and his discretion. shannon: attorney general merrick garland fischbeck & cs attorney in delaware has any constraints in the hunter biden investigation. wondering some and from our sharpest legal minds are tackled the six explosively legal news and look at the base of import as well for constitutional accountability center president elizabeth wydra. jonathan turley former principal deputy assistant attorney general tom dupree. welcome to all of you. i want to start with what the
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attorney general said peter peter said david weiss is not at any restrictions on where he was to bring charges or if i want to do that we got enough in the whistleblower presented to testify to this part of the e-mail. about meeting and 2022 weiss stated he is not the deciding person on whether charges are filed for the whistleblower went on to note i believe this to be a huge problem inc. and cynthia j public position and merrick garland testimony. tom, how do we figure out where the truth lies? first step would be had to bring in the u.s. attorney to testify before congress and put this question to him directly. we are getting at the least mixed messages by the outcome of this case, this plea agreement with hunter biden is very surprising 100 but his lawyers up above the justice department offering him a plea to two misdemeanors of no time start they thought christmas came early. to meet the big question is
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whether the u.s. attorney met what he said when he said this investigation is continuing. they're very serious allegations out here but there's the whistleblower evidence, other evidence would learn about your congress and media reports a question as is the u.s. attorney don't hunter biden or zamora come? shannon: tom-tom a quick a quick follow-up to that i would support mr. weiss testifying on these when he deems appropriate. you think will seem in a public forum doing that? >> i hope he i think we will, shannon. click right now is a huge outcry among the american people wanting to know more about this but what would they do reasons for the decision? did this u.s. attorney in fact that decisional authority about what charges to pursue and to reach this plea agreement? there's huge public pressure on him. the attorney general's given his blessing to the skype credit report congress and testifying. i think that's what's going to happen. shannon: other things it whistleblower brought up is a product text messages he said things implicated suggestions of other potential issues that need to be investigated pretty said he was being stymied by the
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justice department during this investigation. christopher clark is an attorney from joe biden says this, any verifiable words or actions that my client in the midst of a horrible addiction are solely his out have no connection to anyone and his family. any suggestion investigation is not thorough or cut corners are cut my client any slack is preposterous and deeply irresponsible. pushing back hard reminding folks are hunter biden was in the midst of this. not necessarily denying the text and things attributed to him could be legitimate. courts of the commissary american family has been authority touched by diction the devastation that can bring. i think that is an appropriate context to bring in here. i think overall the most important principle both in this case in the trunk case is the rule of law should apply and no one is above the law. whether rich or famous a former present the set of the current president, no one is above the law. the legal process will continue
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and in the trunk case of injuries of everyday americans holding them accountable for these other cases with hunter biden and others who have engaged in wrongdoing and accountability will follow. should follow according to the rule of law and the principle that no one is above the law. shannon: what you make of the charges in the deal though formally come together in july with the court hearing. there are those that say these are overcharged for the first time offender this would not happen. others say or do you make of it? >> it's hard to look at the length of time they took and the charges they produced. and not see different treatment sets with the whistleblowers alleged up or they took five years to get a pleaded two misdemeanors they could've confirmed in the first month. whistleblower sank they were prevented from pursuing certain efforts. they stayed the hunter biden team was astonishing.
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it was an addict. this is not like a purse snatching in times square. he was at the center of an influence peddling scheme that stretch around the world involve thousands of llc corporations and accounts and generated millions of dollars. and not wave a flag here and say that the attics, that's hunter being hunter. this going to be a lot of inquiry paid where the most troubling aspects of this is the whistleblower says in a meeting he was present at weiss said he wanted to be appointed special counsel after he was denied the opportunity to bring additional charges if that is the case, there's a world of hurt coming down for the attorney general. it directly contradicts what he said. here is a word to the wise. if you do not have to voluntarily show up. at this point congress has ample ability to issue subpoenas i think courts will support them.
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but something else this whistleblower brought out and presented as an exhibit in evidence and testimony before the ways and means committee was talking about the timeline of the laptop. he says this at the meeting in october of 2020 this is the heat of the presidential election eight notes back to november of 2019 the fbi had determined the device was registered to sportsmen that sitting is for hunter biden the apple id account and icloud account. he says they knew back in november 2019 but he also says in the meeting they were calling all of this and memorializing october 2020 the attorney involved or the ausa said we have no reason to play the thinking fabricated on the computer or the hard drive there's enough and other items that corroborate the items on the laptop hard drive this is before the presidential electi election. exit is.
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you're learning about information the fbi the irs had it in its a long, long time ago. from my perspective that deepens the mystery here. other words they have this information for they knew what was going on. they knew what was on the laptop they knew who owned and yet here we are four or five years later with the big investigation five-year investigation and not with a bang but with a whimper at the two misdemeanor the time served. shannon: are conflict as we all realize. maybe weiss will come forward or rather explained to me and some have the experts here. this is a closing week of the supreme court elizabeth you and i spent a lot of time over there. we are waiting on so many opinions a really big step that should wrap up this week what are you looking for would the court will do? >> reaching the end of the term there are still some really big cases and have yet to be decided for it whether it's race conscious admissions and higher education the affirmative action cases, 303 creative antidiscrimination laws and rights of lgbtq couples.
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we also have independent state legislature theory case which has a massive ramifications for properly functioning democracy. the 2024 election coming up that case is an incredibly important case. it has been a year since the dobbs decision. the court overturning roe versus wade. a lot of guys have been on the supreme court this year the heat of the spotlight has been on. some of the ethics questions i think all the eyes of the country have been on the court that has not been a good look. whether or not there's any they are the law requires the appearance and reality of impartiality in the administration of justice. think i'm the court consider maybe congress consider a meaningful ethics code meaningful enforcement is something that could be good for the court and good for the country. x quickly 10 seconds customer
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richard stanek decision had to affect the student loan case which is a major standing issue. but for me a good case to watch 303 creative it could completely change how we deal with speech in this country bakers, to photographers. to web designers and whether it's for religious region and speech reasons and this i say i do not want to take this job. shannon: panel got to leave it there think of her expertise for cap next my conversation from nfl player unafraid to weigh in on the most divisive issue
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shannon: a year since he supreme court overturned row of the abortion discussion feels more polarized than ever. that is not something from a pro football star benjamin watson from joining the debate he played tight end for 16 years in the nfl patriots, browns, saints and ravens. but also walter payton manning the year spineless several times retired in 2020. in the air since he's been analyst for the sec network inc. to write books. his latest a new fight for life is out this week. we sat down to talk about it. benjamin watson great to have it with us on "fox news sunday". >> right to be with you, shannon vick was by the very first chapters you say the element in the room but that's the question of why a retired nfl player, a man is diving into this conversation about abortion? you are not shy when it comes to getting into any kind of difficult conversation. >> there is a narrative out there mentioned not talk about this issue. i always push back on that. it is imperative that men be involved in this conversation. and so the challenge i think that only for me but other men as you have a voice on this
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issue. not only to have a voice it's necessary we stand up not only for people and children but from others who are making these decisions. let's a lot of folks have said posted dobbs decision that took down who wrote the pro-life community they say is just about making sure the babies are born they do not really care about the situations these women have in the lives these children are going to have if they are brought into this world. you say it's got to be a lot more holistic approach. ecstatically, how do we in a post world with a pro-life movement shift towards these connection points of justice that prove it yes we care about pre-born children. but we care about if mom can go have a sustainable way to outwork. we care a community has been systemically oppressed over time and how that impacts income levels, those sorts of things. shannon: in that vein a lot of pro-choice advocates will say with limitless access of these mostly red state that disproportionately affects black and brown women who are having
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economic struggles. if you take away this option for them it's just another they would say injustice on their lives. i would say yes it does impact black and brown communities. talk about this in the book. historically black communities have been the ones who have suffered the most from programs, policies and people who have discriminated over time. we have to take a step back and look at things in a holistic context. only do that it was he such disparities in wealth and health outcomes even in maternal mortality rate is something that we talked about many times. to me that is a more holistic, the more powerful, the more permanent way in a holistic way to care not just for children but for mothers, fathers and whole communities. what you talk about in the book all of us these tough conversations as is tied up in the conversation about social justice. >> there is a statistic since it gets thrown around lot black number three -- four times more likely to have abortions in their white counterparts. and so for me when i hear being a black man in this country,
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having black children black parents i say why? what are the different factors that are making this community, might community more vulnerable to abortion and how to be addresses factors? that is what the new fight for life is about addressing the since. shannon: you talk to pro-choice folks to understand how you can have some kind of understanding of each other. is that missing? >> a look at people's eyes and see that humanity. even if i disagree with him on this issue are other issues. even if i vehemently disagree, i think i would do was turquoise on the politics from it we will more adequately see the best ways to serve people and advocate for human flourishing across the board. not just trying to win a certain argument or to win our side. shannon: you been your my conversation with benjamin watson watson on my podcast limited dream out this morning plus update today's programs on "fox news sunday" podcast download and subscribe
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foxnewspodcast.com or whatever you get your podcast. do not miss the best moments of "fox news sunday" always set your dvr to record the show each week on your local station or send p.m. eastern on fox news channel. that is it for today. thank you for joining us i am shannon bream. have a great week we will see a back here for your next "fox news sunday" ♪ ♪ mark: hello america, i'm mark levin, this is "life, liberty and levin," i want to thank you for joining us. i think this is an important show we'll dismap dismantle the hunter biden case and also what has been done to donald trump, and look into foreign policy, but before that. you know, i real

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