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hi, bret. >> bret: this is "america's newsroom." 36 hours of chaos threatening vladimir putin's grip on power. mercenary group that was supporting russia in ukraine turning against the kremlin and marching towards moscow. >> dana: the rebels were members of the wagner group. their leader called off the revolte at the 11th hour. not clear why. his whereabouts right now are unknown. >> ukrainian forces taking advantage of the chaos. they are reporting gains against russian troops in the east. russian defense minister is making his first public appearance since the revolt doing little to quell speculation that putin is in serious jeopardy. >> much of his longevity is tied to what happens inside ukraine. he knows full well his future is dependent on what happens in ukraine. i don't see him admitting that he made a terrible mistake here

and pull all his troops out. >> you see a real public perception going against putin. he doesn't have a strong sense of being a strong man anymore. seems to me very weak. >> the key is to watch how vladimir putin navigates the after math of this crisis. what i would expect from him is he would seek to assert control. >> dana: an exclusive interview with former secretary of state condoleezza rice. gillian turner is at the state department. let's go to greg palkot in kiev. good morning, greg. >> folks here are exhaling a bit after a nerve-wracking weekend watching the events in next door russia and trying to figure out what it all means. after a deal was struck the wagner mercenary group pulled out of locations it seized in a southern russian city and close to moscow. not confirmed where they are now or what their future is. their leader's -- he was supposed to be sent to belarus

and cleared of charges. russian officials say he could face the music. one of the targets prigozhin's anger shoigu was seen today. no verification of date or location. moscow issued a new video of russian president putin said to be addressing remotely a youth forum. moscow media today has been knocking the government's handling of the crisis including deal struck. while ukraine tries to take advantage of things. some russian units have been shifted during the unrest. some ukrainian inroads were made especially in the east. officials here including one member of parliament we spoke with think any loss of prestige for the kremlin is good for ukraine. take a listen. >> how much damage was done to putin? >> i think huge. despite -- huge, absolutely. he lost a lot of reputation

within russia and definitely he lost a reputation among countries and leaders. >> according to the mp reputational damage was done to putin. not total. in his words, dana, this is chapter one. maybe some rocky chapters ahead. back to you. >> dana: greg palkot. thank you. >> bret: the biden intelligence and national security teams reportedly caught off guard by the deal that would end the mutiny especially with vladimir putin willing to compromise. gillian turner is live at the state department with the latest there. good morning, gillian. >> good morning, bret. nice to see you this time of morning. it turns out the national security team in washington did not know and did not believe that putin would cave so quickly to a negotiated deal with the wagner group. they were taken by surprise about the concessions putin ended up making. listen to the secretary of state. >> this is an unfolding story. i think we're in the midst of a

moving picture. we haven't seen the last act. we can't speculate or know exactly where it will go. we do know putin has a lot more to answer for in the weeks and months ahead. >> the intelligence community walls aware for some weeks the wagner group was likely planning a mutiny against putin's forces but did not believe putin and prigozhin would ultimately strike a deal. >> it came as a surprise to u.s. intelligence. they were surprised when the russians put up no resistance, allowed prigozhin to go into their military headquarters and then they were surprised again by how quickly a deal was made. >> secretary blinken is acknowledging they still don't know exactly what putin agreed to or how the deal will play out inside ukraine. >> we still don't have finality in terms of what was actually

agreed between prigozhin and putin. i suspect that we'll learn more in the days and weeks ahead about what deal they struck. too soon to tell what will happen to the wagner forces. >> blinken said they communicated the u.s. wants to make sure civilians inside ukraine and russia are safe. we'll ask them about it at a briefing coming up. >> dana: let's bring in former secretary of state condoleezza rice. wonderful to have you here today on this particular day. quite a day. in fact, i was thinking you would have been my first call if i was press secretary. what is your assessment of what happened? >> i've seen a lot of strange things in studying russia. this is one of the strangest. indeed, we now think perhaps the u.s. intelligence knew that something was brewing inside the wagner group. russian intelligence must have

known something was brewing. they keep people inside of all these units who are loyal to the kremlin. that they didn't do anything about it before it reached this fever pitch is really quite strange to me. it is also this deal. i was listening americans were surprised by this deal. everybody was surprised by the deal including russians. and now the problem for putin is he has to explain why after going on television in that five-minute address, rather alarmist address about how it might be 1917 all over again and we were going to crush them and they were treasonous and then you make a deal. one reason you haven't heard putin speak is they are trying to get the story together to justify what happened here. >> dana: putin has always been worried about this. >> this is the kind of russian dna to worry about the revolt. they have had multiple revolts against the kremlin throughout their history, the most famous the one that putin referenced in

1917 that brought down first the russian empire and then the soviet union. there is always this concern that there will be a mutiny. they had a mutiny against gorbachev in august of 1991. he has been worried about it and keeps a guard to protect himself but again, he really set this in motion by allowing this back and forth between prigozhin and the defense minister and the chief of the general staff by allowing an armed militia within the state that was not controlled by the state. and then sending them off into ukraine and syria and other places taking advantage of their brutality but now having them turn on him. it is like frankenstein having created this monster. >> dana: a few people suggested maybe it was a ruse. maybe putin planned all this? >> it gives him too much credit.

i thought could it be staged, but you wouldn't stage something that makes you look so weak because really, dictators, thor tarrance rest on three principles. one is there has to be fear in the population. secondly, you have to look invincible. third, there can be no alternatives. this has exploded all of those for putin. it also has exploded his myth that the ukrainian special military operation could take place without any effect on russia, without any effect on the russian population, and that it was a just and necessary war. probably the most damaging thing about this is that prigozhin said what has been unspoken by those who have supported the war, that this is actually a war that did not have to take place where hundreds of thousands of russians did not have to die, where a million people didn't have to flee the country. that's the most damaging thing that prigozhin has done. >> dana: if you could forecast

in the future for ukraine, what does it look like? >> the ukrainians hoped if it had gone on longer maybe defections among the russian soldiers. we'll have to wait what it does to the morale of russian soldiers as the word spreads. it will spread thanks to social media among the military bloggers, how could putin have done this? we'll see what effect there will be on russian morale in the field. i will say the russians seem to have been pretty well prepared for this counter offensive. they are better on the defense than they are on offense digging trenches, mining the territory. but we'll wait and see. this can't be good if you are a russian commander out there with these young soldiers. >> dana: we'll have more with former secretary condoleezza rice. bret. >> bret: newly revealed hunter

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>> dana: alarms soundsing far and wide over education here in the united states after the nation's report card shows math and reading scores for 13-year-olds have plunged to their lowest levels in decades. let's bring back in condoleezza rice. you wrote a book about education and you think about this not only for the children of america but america's future, america's national security and the competitiveness that we have to maintain with our allies. >> right. this is a devastating report. i think it's a national crisis. i actually think it is a national humiliation we have gotten to this point. we need to really address this and address it quickly. one of the ways to address it,

though, is to give parents particularly poor parents better options. so as school choice out to be a question for every presidential candidate. are you willing to give to poorer parents the same choices that parents who can move to a district where the schools are good and houses are expensive or send their kids to private schools, why don't poor parents have those choices? this ought to be a clarion call about charter schools. we have just had a major report out of the hoover institution where i'm director by our education group that talks about charter schools have done relatively well during this period of time. now, we know that the covid really deepened our already significant problems in k-12 education. if we don't do something about it now, we're condemning generations of kids to unemployment and worse. and by the way, we're undermining our own competitiveness. all of that innovation and

create activity rests first and foremost on having skills in the population. >> dana: so everybody can see it here, reading went down four points. math went down nine points between 2020 and 2023. what thapd then? covid and schools being shut down. 14% of students report reading for fun almost every day. that goes down every year. that really breaks my heart. it does help a lot. we're expecting a decision by the supreme court this week on affirmative action this week. a poll conducted march 27th to april 2nd saying that 50% of people disapprove of selective colleges and universities taking race and ethnicity into account in admissions. an issue going or for a long time. a case that originated with asian students frustrated with harvard in particular. what do you think should happen here? what will happen after the supreme court? >> this has been going on for some time.

california passed a statute as the population didn't want to see preferences. i'm a limited government person. i would like to see universities maintain the capability of constructing a class. it is not always just about your sat, it is about where did you come from, universities, whatever this ruling is, we're going to have to continue to put together classes that are diverse. i don't mean ethnically diverse. i've never been one from a, b, c, quote oh system seems wrong and unamerican to me. i do think, however, we need to take into account background and circumstances. i'm third generation college educated. had i had kids my fourth generation college-educated kids would have had an advantage even though they're black over first generation kids who didn't have the same opportunities. so universities, i think, are going to have to be creative to put together classes that are

diverse ethnically, diverse in terms of socio- economic status and diverse geographically and the skills kids have. i understand the pain that the parents who actually put forward this case must have felt. and it has to be addressed. but let's do this in a way that keeps our classes diverse across the whole spectrum of diversity. >> dana: did you see the back and forth between president obama and tim scott last week? where do you fall there? >> i've heard people say to me you are exceptional or carrying the america you can pull yours up by your bootstraps. tim scott did that. nobody can take that away from him. i think we've gotten away maybe in america from the idea that yes, of course, slavery was a stain on america and of course

it was 1964 before my parents and i could go to a movie theater in my hometown of birmingham. but never did my parents say to me you can't achieve even if the society is against you. as a matter of fact, dana, they used to say you have to be twice as good. just go out there and work hard and you will get ahead. if you start taking away agency from african-americans by saying oh, the system is so stacked against you that you can't possibly succeed, what am i supposed to say to the 8-year-old, don't study until structural racism is over? that's taking away agency from that child. that's taking away agency from the parent that wants to put that kid in a good school. and i really resent it. i resent the idea that african-americans can't succeed despite the challenges of being black in america. >> dana: i know you worked twice

of hard and you have lots of interests including the denver broncos. my sister, angie, would love to know can they look forward to a better season this fall in denver with the broncos? >> of course we can look forward to a better season. i'm excited for russell wilson, a great guy and incredibly talented athlete and sean payton, our new coach. i think it will be a good season. as you know i grew up in denver moving there when i was 12. we know how important the broncos are. congratulations to the denver nuggets. >> dana: exactly. well, i could talk to you for hours. we have to let you go. thank you for being here and for your wisdom and insight. we appreciate it. and bret, there you have it. possibly the most serendipitous booking of "america's newsroom" history since i've been here. >> bret: thank you so much, madam secretary, great to see you and have the expertise.

i know you like to talk football. how is your golf game? >> not bad, not good. it's golf. >> i think as the president explained that's his son, a separate thing. i would like to say about that, you always wish there were different perceptions but that's not reality. >> bret: democrats rushing to president biden's defense after new allegation his son, hunter, was using his father as leverage to shake down a chinese businessman. mark meredith is live at the white house with more. good morning, mark. >> good morning to you. the white house is making it clear it has no plans to distance itself from the first son hunter biden even as questions swirl about his business dealings thanks to newly released text messages. cameras captured hunter coming back from camp david with the president last night. the white house still refusing to answer multiple reporters' questions about where things stand with congressional inquiries into the first son.

more questions still popping up on the hill after an i.r.s. whistleblower told congress that hunter mentioned his dad when speaking to what chinese business partner. it says i am sitting with my father and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled. what is strange is that the president has repeatedly said he never discussed business with his son. kevin mccarthy said today congress has plenty of reasons to keep digging. >> i wish none of this would have ever happened or go forward with somebody in elected office. now we found the president has lied to us and said they never dealt with anything in china. now the whistleblower says he was in a meeting with a chinese company as the vice president. >> we did hear from the white house special counsel's office last week -- and they said as we have said many times before the president was not in business with his son. as we've also said many times before the justice department makes its decisions in its criminal investigations independently and the white

house has not been involved in this case. texas senator ted cruz mentioned it's possible the scandal could develop further and even mentioned the impeachment word out there. we'll see whether or not the president responds. he has one event on the public schedule today talking about infrastructure. >> bret: mark meredith live on the north lawn. thanks. >> caitlyn jenner's house to have a conversation in and around trans in sports. >> dana: lance arm strains talking about transgender participation in sports asking if it's possible to support the trans community and question the fairness of transgender athletes in sports. wild video out of michigan appearing to show a man setting fire to a gas station and trapping a worker inside. we have details later in the show. pay off debts and high rate credit cards, and save hundreds every month.

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policies to inform parents if their kids are seeking gender transition care. the state argues the notification puts transgender students at risk. board members insist parents have a right to know. what will happen? we're live in englishtown, new jersey. hi, nate. >> the state is seeking an injunction to block the implementation of these policies and the attorney for the school board, one of the three being sued by the state, tells me he expects a decision on that to come in the next month. eventually he foresees this as being the kind of case that could be heard by the u.s. supreme court because of the national implications. take a look at this video from new jersey last week. it is in middle town. one of the three districts sued by the state. parents and trans activists coming out for and against these new policies. you mentioned people against the policies believe it could put trans kids' lives at risk. many parents say they have the right to know if something so major is happening with their child. the founder of a parental rights

group in new jersey. listen to her. >> we want transparency with the school. our children are safer when we know more about what is happening in school. why in the world would the a.g. and murphy think it would be appropriate to hide any sort of information from parents that we are monsters and we would only hurt our kids if we found out they were being bullied and at risk for suicide? >> new jersey attorney general matt plaque filed the lawsuits last week claiming the policies violate the state's anti-discrimination log. but an attorney tells fox we disagree with the attorney general's argument it is somehow improper to notify a parent that their minor child is changing their gender identity or expression. after a decision about that possible injunction the case will go to an administrative court. this is an issue impacting all

parts of the country including maryland, where parents recently filed a lawsuit over similar policies. we'll send it back to you. >> dana: it could end up in the courts indeed. thank you, nate. >> in the report that was given to the president, the 90 day or so report, they have information in that report that contradicts the impressions that are given in the statement by the committee. we want to intelligence released. not their opinion about it. >> bret: director of national intelligence releasing a long anticipated report on the origins of covid last friday. it was a friday afternoon news dump. the findings came that gave equal weight to natural causes and the lab in wuhan, china as plausible reasons for the virus. the chairman of the house intel committee calls the report insufficient. michael shellenberger joins us now, the author of several books. michael, thanks for being here.

what are your thoughts on the house intel chair and his comments? it seems that they are very unsatisfied with what came out friday. >> i think they should be unsatisfied. i think the biden administration is clearly in violation of the law that president biden signed which explicitly says that the intelligence community should release the director of national intelligence should release the names of the first people to get covid, both the "wall street journal" and our publication, public, reported the names of the first three people to get the covid-19 virus in china. they were the three scientists working with sars-like coronaviruses including to manipulate them to increase their infectiousness. that intelligence is there that the u.s. government has, i'm shocked they decided not to release it. i found it extremely suspicious at the same moment -- within hours of the office of the director of national

intelligence releasing that have thin report with no new information, we also saw the -- one of the patients in china, one of the scientists working with the virus deny that he had been sick with covid-19 after going almost a week and a half failing to respond to our inquiries and failing to respond to the "wall street journal" inquiries. i think the bottom line is we need a 9/11 bipartisan commission by congress to get to the bottom of this. there have been a bipartisan group of senators who called for that 9/11 type commission. this issue is not resolved. the biden administration is in violation of the law and people should be outraged by the behavior of the biden administration to date. >> bret: a quote from that report on friday. several of these wuhan researchers were ill in fall of 2019 with symptoms, some of their symptoms were consistent but not diagnostic of covid-19. we have no indication that any of these researchers were

hospitalized because of the symptoms. it doesn't track with what we've seen. do you think it has broader more to do with the u.s. funding of research at wuhan at the beginning? >> obviously we don't know. we can only speculate. what i would point out is these appear to be behaviors consistent with the behaviors you would see if somebody were trying to cover up information about the kind of research that yes indeed the u.s. government funded, that taxpayers funded in china to do this gain-of-function research. i think it is a massive scandal if we are looking that the u.s. government created it and covered up its own role. that's a serious charge. that should not -- no one should

want that hanging over the intelligence community or biden administration and why you need a bipartisan commission. i think the ball is in congress's court in the court of senate and house leaders to do it bipartisan commission. the american people should not be satisfied with the level of information that we've been given to date. >> bret: we were one of the first outlets to do reports on this based on sources. and at the beginning it was called conspiracy theories. now it has evolved and there is a lot more information. will we ever get to the bottom of it? >> i do think we'll get to the bottom of it. we've shown the capability of doing that. thanks to your reporting where you found that anthony fauci and france is colin's scientific advisors thought it escaped from the labor day and they told them that in january of 2020 and a few days later they dismissed it or a few weeks later they dismissed it in an open letter

to lon set as a conspiracy theory, it's unconscionable behavior, anti-science. it's anti-democratic. i do think, though, it is really now up to congress to act and get that 9/11-type commission going. >> bret: michael shellenberger. appreciate your time this morning. >> thank you, good to be with you. >> dana reads sports. >> he scores! that was so much easier than putting. i should try to get the ball on one shot every time. >> dana: that was adam sandler more than 25 years ago as the fictional golfer happy gilmore. a high school golf star named happy gilmore has a commitment to ball state. adam sandler said go get them, happy, pulling for you. bret, we had to pull that sports one just for you. >> bret: that's pretty good. i wonder if he putts with a

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>> bret: folks taking in chances. this funnel cloud tore through greenwood on sunday. this is part of the severe storms and tornadoes that targeted the midwest and south. those storms carving a path of destruction knocking out power to about 700,000 people. the threat is not over, either. millions more are on alert for severe weather across the

northeast as you look at that map. you can download fox weather app for continuing coverage, up-to-the-minute for the severe storms and also use your phone right now and scan the qr code on your screen. >> dana: atlanta prosecutor is quitting domestic terror cases at a future monthly is training sight because of disagreement with the state's republican attorney general. charles watson has more from atlanta. >> good morning, dana. the district attorney says she is now withdrawing from prosecuting any cases related to a riot that broke out a few months ago at atlanta's so-called cop city police training facility. boston said she is at odds with the georgia attorney general's office on charges related to this up roar in march that saw protestors of the training facility throw rocks and explosives at officers. dozens of those people, most of

who live outside of georgia, the decould be county d.a. a democrat nearing the end of her term next year says her office has differences in philosophies with the a.g.'s office. we spoke to a criminal defense attorney phil holloway with no association with the case but says this all boils down to politics. >> so they are very political constituent that these two politicians are answer ring to. they might punish the prosecutor at the polls with the locally unpopular prosecutions. >> dana, georgia's republican attorney general says he will now prosecute these cases. he says in a statement while the district attorney has decided to no long every assist in the case our office is fully committed to

moving forward with the prosecution of those who have engaged in or supported violent acts surrounding the public safety training facility and the attorney general or the d.a. says that she will handle any further cases that relate to the public training center should they come about. very interesting stuff, dana. >> dana: right in atlanta. charles watson, thank you. >> bret: president biden facing more pressure to participate in debates for the democratic primary. now presidential candidate robert f. kennedy junior burning up the internet tweeting up a video of doing push-ups without wearing a shirt after posting a video bench pressing. he is 69 years old and pretty jacked and ready for debates. >> i'm jealous of how ripped he

is. most of the people probably are. many are younger than he is as well. bret, i think the continued strength of robert f. kennedy junior as well as the continued interest level in mary anne williamson is an incredible indictment of joe biden's candidacy now. i'm sure you saw over the weekend 68% of poll in an nbc poll said they didn't have faith in the mental or physical faculties of joe biden including 43% of all democrats. which makes me wonder, as strong as rfk junior physically is and as strong as his campaign has been, which i believe has surprised a lot of people. what will we see a gavin newsom or gretchen whitmer or prytz guerre, someone who is a governor and looks at the weakness of joe biden and announce they're challenging him. if that happens, i still feel like, bret, i've been talking about this on my radio show.

at some point when you consider what's going on with hunter and all of the storm and turmoil surrounding that investigation, i feel like at some point we'll get a 1968 lyndon johnson announcement from joe biden, i really do, that he is not going to seek or campaign to be the nominee in 2024. that would -- i'm reading the tea leaves. >> bret: what are you putting on that guess right there? >> first of all we could have a handshake agreement here. it sounds like you think i'm crazy. >> bret: i think it's interesting. >> 2 to 1? it is less likely than even odds i get 2-1 there. as you start to piece and parcel all this together, i just -- and the mental and physical faculties it feels like every

week, every month there is a new gaffe, the american public overwhelmingly, it seems to me has decided that joe biden is too old for this job, both democrat, republican and independent and you have gavin newsom sitting for an interview with sean hannity. i don't think he is doing that because he wants to reach out to fox viewers five years of potentially running in 2028. a lot of people circling. i think this story surrounding hunter biden will continue to get messier and messier as it is prosecuted and as the details continue to emerge. he is not up for the job and i think this is where you look at the strength of robert f. kennedy junior who has run a very good campaign. i think it is emblematic of biden's weakness more than rfk junior's strength. to his credit he is the only

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>> bret: an airline worker is dead after being sucked into a plane's engine. that tragedy unfolding over the weekend at the san antonio international airport. the delta plane was rolling up to the gate when the worker, who was employed by a third party, was pulled into the engine. the national transportation safety board is investigating. >> dana: the u.s. coast guard launching an investigation into the cause of the underwater deadly implosion that destroyed the submersible exploring the wreckage of the titanic while new pictures of the recovery mission are being released. lauren green has the latest. >> as people try to find out why the titan submersible imploded christine dawood has her husband

and her son were both excited to see the titanic wreck and told them about the tremendous loss she feels. she and her daughter were on the mother ship when word came that it had lost communication with the titan sub. >> i lost hope when we passed the 96 hours mark. that's when i lost hope. my daughter didn't lose hope until -- until the call with the coast guard when they basically informed us that they found debris. that's when she also lost hope. >> the company running the rov that found the field, the submersible has made at least four dives to the debris site so far. the transportation safety board is trying to establish if a criminal investigation is warranted and conducted interviews and looking at voice

and data recorders from the polar prince. the u.s. coast guard says they are investigating while the submersible im -- why it imploded killing all five aboard and says one of the goals is taking a look at future regulations. the coast guard says they're working to recover the debris of the titan from the bottom of the ocean with the help of canadian authorities. >> dana: they will need that help and the investigation is super important. >> all hands. >> dana: florida governor and republican presidential candidate ron desantis looking at the border in eagle pass, texas. one of the hot spots in the border crisis announcing his plans to secure the border if elected president. welcome to a new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm dana perino. bill hemmer is off today. >> bret: i'm bret baier in washington. he focused on border security and