are so strong people say how did you lose your legs and stay positive? look at the people in my life and helped me while going through their stuff? >> go get the book. thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks for watching "fox news tonight." my friend and mentor, sean hannity is up next. l.j. i'm proud, great show. joey is a great guy. good to see you. hi to mom and dad the greatest parents ever and send my regards. welcome to hannity. biden just unveiled a bold strategy for 2024. let's hide in the basement and repeat 2020 again, the media won't care, and with rfk, jr., however surging in the democratic primary, is biden in trouble? we have details tonight. also, trouble in russia for vladimir putin. we are going to analyze this

weekend's deadly coup attempt and why are sceptical it was an attempt. this is what we can tell you this monday night about your government today. your government is corrupt. the d.o.j. is corrupt. it has been weaponized. your fbi is corrupt. nobody is above the law unless you're clinton or biden. despite evidence of bribery felony tax evasion crack tiering violations prostitution felony gun violation brandishing hunter is a free manned and will be and his father is facing no consequences at all, whatsoever. now they're rubbing it in your face because on friday night there's hunter celebrating a sweetheart plea deal attending state dinner with his father and attorney general garland.

short time later joey and hunter flew to camp david together had a beautiful weekend retreat laughing smiling the whole way after text provided more evidence that pops may have been an integral part of his son's sketchy overseas business deals and the biden tamale syndicate in july 2017 hunter berated a chinese national why? for not fulfilling a commitment. quote i'm sitting here. my father would like to understand why the commitment has not been fulfilled. then hunter continuing, quote, i will make certain that between that man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to hold a grudge that you will regret following my direction. i'm sitting here waiting for the call with my father. that either sounds like a shake down or hunter's best imitation

of a mob boss. using the big guy and the big guy's friends as leverage, little scary. the white house denied biden's involvement and want to know that he was high on crack when he sent that text but joe seems to think it's one big joke. take a look. >> i started off without you. i stole a lot of state secrets and things shared. >> so we are clear it's documented in a 2020, 1023 form joe biden accused by well paid fbi force taking foreign bribes from ukranian foreign national when he was vice-president.

you remember, the few investigating zero experience hunter was fired in six hours, so hunter can continue to get paid. no experience at all bat. a great country embankment a great life. dad is vice-president. there was a payoff we are toll. did it happen? did they have a bigger payoff we had not known about? we needs answers. few months earlier in late 2019 the fbi apparently verified hunger's laptop from hell with messages that out sign 10 percent for the big guy and complaints from hunt there pops had to take and was taking half his income and forced to pay for pops home repairs and living expenses and prior to 2019 a wave of hard evidence including photos that biden met with more than a dozen of hundredors foreign business partners the thing he said he never did then that july 27 shake hunter implicated his own father in a

scheme to charge a chinese foreign national for access to the big guy and bombshell new allegations from two irs whistleblowers that thought democrats and the media love whistleblowers no more apparently who claim joe and hunter were protected by garland and joe biden's doj and according to those allegation biden appointed u.s. attorneys that blocked felony tax charges against hunter the years prior to the two they got him on only misdemeanor accounts no jail time one whistleblower gary shapely identified four witnesses who saw this obstruction and meanwhile hunter's laptop was buried when investigators weren't allowed to access it seems like they were digging hard for justice here and according to the same whistleblowers any investigation into the big guy was stopped. but apparently no one at the white house or doj or state department or fbi feels any need to respond in any serious way to

the shocking allegations and last week garland suggested any criticism of the doj is an attack on democracy and on friday jean pierre did everything to dodge the issue. >> as the message seems to suggest in some sort of questions i have dealings by his son, maybe you should tell news is here's the thing and i appreciate the question. i believe my colleague at the white house council has answered this question. >> was the president involved? >> stephen, i just answered the question. i just said, it's not up to you how i answer the question. i just answered the question. >> you stated that the president stands by his comment from the 2020 campaign that he never one discussed his sons overseas business dealings with his son and you stood at that podium and reaffirmed that. >> what i will say is nothing

has changed and i will leave it there. >> she answers the question not answering if question. biden continues to be flat out lie. take a look. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> that's just blatant bs, it makes you wonder what else biden is lying about. sadly doesn't matter because merck garland has his back. the democrats at doj will never seriously investigate joe or hunter only protect him like they protected hillary. what i said the beginning of the talk the government is corrupt, the department of justice is corrupt and weaponized as is the fbi heirarchy. they're only interested in persecuting anything donald trump. we saw this in the 2016

election, no reasonable prosecutor would ever charge hillary clinton while donald trump faced year long witch hunt because of her hoax resulting from her dirty russian dossier she paid for and never mind the 33,000 deleted emails the bleach pit and devices destroyed with hammers and we saw in 2020 fbi pre-upcoming hunter's laptop from hell, 2023 the movie repeats, bribery corruption allegations against the big guy joe biden, swept under the rug. and as for the democracy dies in darkness crowd the media mob that are supposed to speak truth to power the ones that lied about russia conclusion for three years that are on the air lying tonight could care less. the country is in serious trouble. it will only get worse if your big guy wins reelection. here with the latest fox news white house correspondent jackie

heinrich. we have photographic and other evidence and implications on hunter's laptop that joe biden knew a lot about hunter and his foreign business dealings and met with a lot of his business partners, did he not? >> well, sean house speaker kevin mccarthy and other congressional republicans pointed to that whistleblower testimony including that text mentioned purportedly from hunt tore chinese business associate as evidence the president lied when he repeatedly claimed he's never spoke within his son about overseas business i asked the president did you lie and he said no. hunter's attorney has blamed his klein's drug use for questions about this. he test fox, quote. but the presidents denial again today is important as critics have pointed to be photos showing biden with munter and

his business partners emails referring to meetings and dinners and leaked voice michael where joe biden tells hunter he thinks it's clear after reviewing an article that detail a connection between the president and a chinese oil tycoon. the president is keeping his son in close company after inviting him to the state dinner with the indian prime minister days after he accepted a plea deal with federal prosecutors he spent the weekend at camp david with the president. >> jackie maybe next time hit up the picture and we will give actual dates and times of meetings of him hunter and hunter's attorney business partner. see if we can advance that story. great job. thank you. this is so much bigger than joe biden as outlined in his new article, this is a multi-year government plot to protect biden and solely trumt. moore is editor of just the news.com investigative reporter

john solomon. you went into chapter verse and detail you and i on the same page a lot of these issues. put them together the durham report the 103 report the irs whistleblowers everything we know about fisa 2016 destroying emails. >> listen. there's no doubt there was a whole government effort multiple agencies the fbi the justice department u.s. attorneys offices the irs and the intelligence community, to protect joe biden's viability to be president in 2020 and it man fesses itself in so many ways and the flip side is to sully donald trump's chance at reelection and take some undeniable things in the open because of jim jordan comber grassley johnson people who worked for four years to get this to the american people when fbi had a tip paul manafort had a longer with stuff in it they got a warrant and raided it.

when the fbi agents learn that hunter biden had his business records moved to storen they met probable cause for search warrant and turned down. when the fbi wanted to interview anyone they wanted russia conclusion mat earth of credibility they did it but when irs agents tried to interview several people were told you can't ask questions about joe biden and can't interview these people including the joe bidened grandchildren hunter biden's children. why? they wanted to ask did you charge some of your personal expenses on hunter biden's credit card and did that become a tax deductible improper expense and e-they were told it's not in your career interest to interview joe biden's began children. that's the example we see. they recommended charges career pim up and down recommended a sweeping indictment and the u.s. attorneys said no, in washington and l.a. two political

apointees. one last one and it's an important piece of evidence, when the president today made his comments, he is essentially calling one of his friends a layer bauer rob walker a close biden family friend told the fbi in 302 report i've seen the language in it it's mentioned by the whistleblowers and in that meeting said joe biden absolutely met with the chinese business partners and hunter biden right around that text emergency so joe biden's friends are calling it is out and yerba buena can't tell the truth and with all that evidence the fbi and irs can't bring more charges than a couple misdemeanors. >> you had other news, house judiciary confirms a report on the dhs censorship and outsource mayorkas censorship? >> yeah, starting in the trump administration and continuing to

biden administration homeland security surveying americans opinions on social media and outsourcing the job of actually getting them censored with big tech to third party groups. they did so according to the report extra constitutional meaning unconstitutional to do what they did. we started talking about this last year when congress started asking questions about it according to this report a cover-up went on removing evidence from public view so the trail how the censorship worked couldn't be easily found. >> all right, yon solomon, editor-in-chief just the news.com. this could be the biggest corruption scandal in modern american history but according to ladies of the view it's little more than a heart fell story about a fatheres love for

his son. who is diktd to crack and hookers. take a look. >> the hunter biden story the scandal the this the that it's also a story of a father's love and joe biden has never and will never give up on his son hunter and will never treat him lesser than so he is a father first, take it or live. that's who he is. that is part of his heart. >> now too bad joe doesn't exhibit the same love for his 4-year-old granddaughter the one he won't acknowledge. cnn has apparently obtained another audio recording used in trump is doubt case. it's weird because there are virtually no leaks from binded document investigation if there is one. it's almost as if we have two tiered system of justice. kind of shocking. here with reaction, fox news contributor miranda devine and former senior adviser to president trump stephen miller i

start with you stephen the leak of the tape like leak of every detail from the media seemingly from the trump special counsel we haven't heard a peep out of the so-called special counsel looking at the bidens. >> we have seen this for 7 long years sean where the federal government when it's persecuting going after trying to frame president they selectively leak in order to manipulate news stories to try to poison the narrative to try to create a false impression and eve been doing this over and over and over again. the security state is very skill at psychological warfare. they're skilled at the artistry used in foreign countries how to control the narrative in our country. my message to the american people is don't fall for it. we have been watching them try to play us year after year after year going all the back to the russia hoax and the ukraine hoax

remember in the election year remember the russian bounty story where trump was letting russia putting bountyies on our troops and came out that was a fake story and what they did to suppress the hunter biden story and now what they have been doing to shield joe biden for accountability for influence peddling with hunter. let's get your take miranda devine. i tried to lay out here that our government is corrupt that, our doj is corrupt. it's weaponized the fbi the top not rank and file, a lot of them are trying to do a good job but don't have the leadership that they deserve to restore agency to what it once was the premier law enforcement agency in the world. your reaction all this. >> you're spot on and i think we have seen the corruption of the doj and the top echelons of the

fbi laid out in stark detail, on friday in the testimony of the two irs whistleblowers, who are courageous to have come forward, and i hope that every american has their back because they are in for a world of pain as the very perspective lawyers of hunter biden come after them in every single way they can and as they are being reretaliated against right now by the federal government, to which they gave more than a dozen years each of their lives. these are courageous diligent public servants and what they have done is they have broken ranks and been had tregt like nobody else has, it seems, in that investigation that went for five years into hunter biden in delaware told chapter and verse how they were obstructed and slow walked every step of the way and some one is lying

because attorney general merck garland has said flat out that u.s. attorney david weiss did not ask to be made a special counsel and david weiss told six witnesses according to gary schapply the irs whistleblower that he asked the doj if he could be made special counsel so he could override the biden appointed u.s. attorneys in d.c. and the central district of california, who refuse to allow them to bring charges against hunter biden in their jurisdictions so someone is lying and i believe that the republicans in the house will be hauling those people to testify under oath. >> let me go back to you stephen miller because with it impacting the 2024 election and in a lot of different ways. so you got the doj protecting hillary clinton in 2016. drum was able to win but clearly they were working against him

and they were even willing to use an uncorroborated frankly unverifiable or in the words of durp they couldn't prove a single thing in that dossier, nothing and operation crossfire hurricane never should have opened up. pre-bunking the "new york post" story about hutter's laptop from hell that miranda probably knows inside and out better than anybody else in the country and now we have got one prosecution after another after another and one venue after another that's not favorable to donald trump. they're trying to do the say thing and put cinder blocks on the scales of presidential elections, the deep state in favor of joe biden again. >> absolutely and that's exactly what they are doing. putting cinder blocks on the scales of this election as they have now in two previous election cycles. first, by shielding hillary clinton, and her pay for play

scheme then by shielding joe biden and hub over they are influence peddling scheme and now trying to throw donald trump into prison in the middle of the presidential campaign. how much more of this do we have to witness before we can all arrive at the obvious conclusion the department of justice and the security state are working against our democracy and against the american people? if you compare the treatment that donald trump has gotten one false allegation after another one investigation after another, his life turned upside down and torn apart and you compare that to what we have seen from these irs whistleblowers and how the d.o.j. bent over backwards to shield yerba buena when you compare those things can you arrive at nothing else than that you are right and the department of justice is corrupt. >> all right. we appreciate your time. stephen miller thank you miranda devine thank you. when we come back appears fake

news cnn was able to get a copy of the special counsel's tape. we will play it to be for your reaction. this is supposed to be the smoking gun aupiu of donald trump that will convict in the florida case, it's a two-minute tape all ahead and in typical biden fashion the president hats under-whelming vision for 2024. also was this a coup attempt against vladimir and why are others saying no? we have both sides that will debate that coming up.

>> cnn obtained a tape of trump's conversation about class few documents.

this is supposed to be big smoking gun. let's play it and we will have discussion on the other sigh. >> these are bad, sick people. into that was your coup against you. >> it started right at -- >> talking about oh, we are going to try to do a coup. they were trying to do that before you were even sworn in trying to overthrow your life. >> with millie, let me see that i've got to show you an example. he said that i wanted to attack iran. isn't it amazing to have a big pile up here? this thing just came up. look. this was him. they presented me. this this is off the record but they presented me this. this was him. this was the defense department and him. >> wow. >> we looked at him. this wasn't done by me. this was him. all sorts of stuff. pages long.

let's see here. >> yeah. >> i just found -- isn't that amazing? this totally wins my case you know. >> mm-hmm. >> except it is secret. it's secret information. look at. this you attack. >> hillary would print that out all the time. emails. >> send it to thrown weiner. [laughter]. >> the pervert. by the way, isn't that incredible? >> yeah. >> i was just saying because we were talking about it and he said, he wanted to attack iran. >> this was done by the military, given to me. i think we can probably -- >> i don't know. we will have to see. >> declassified. as president i could declassify it. now i can't. isn't that interesting? it's so cool.

and you probably almost didn't believe me but now you believe me. it's incredible, right? >> all right, here with reaction, kaley mcenany and fox news contributor ari fleischer. ari he's right about hillary rodham clinton no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute. now while he did say this is stuff that he got from the military that would be highly confidential, as president i couldn't declassify it but it would still be a secret. that does not confirm for me whether or not specifically this document was declassified or not. was that actually a real, the real document or was it a story

he was telling? and my understanding is that that particular document was never found by the special counsel or by the raid at mar-a-lago, but i might be mistake than on that. i don't think i am. >> well, sean, maybe that will be donald trump's defense. i don't know what his defense will be over this document but as somebody who used to routinely handle classified information i do have to say that is not how you're supposed to handle it. if it is a secret top secret or whatever the classification this document you may not show it to anybody who doesn't have such a clearance. it may not life a skif. it can't be in a place like mar-a-lago. i'm not sympathetic. i always said he shouldn't have been indicted over this. i think that was overreach that went too far but i think the president went too far in taking classified documents he should have returned them when the

government said they wanted them back. >> i don't disagree. there is a lot of legal wrangling and interpretation relating to two issues number one what did he declassify and it is a problem to me kaley the government doesn't have set process for declassification, to declassify a document a president must do a, b, c, d and e. that doesn't exist. we have asked many experts about it but i go back to my original observation was that the original document? was it a declassified document he talked about that was highly secret? and why didn't they find that document in the raid at mar-a-lago? that raise a question in my mind, did he really have it or was he just talking about it. >> look. all those questions will be answered in a court of law. i do agree with ari we have to look at and respect

classification, it's important important for national security. it's important for people who collect information and put their lives on the line. that said i agree this case wouldn't have been brought against any candidate. i questions about joe biden not just taking classified information when he had no declassification authority but taking them during a time as senator when he had no right to take them when he viewed them in a skiff and president trump is right to point to double standards and we have to think how this will be litigated on national stage national election and president trump one thing he can do here if he can stay routinely on the campaign trail we should be talking about you the american people, we should be talking about the economy, inflation, the horrors of the joe biden presidency. we are talking about me and the doj has taken in a manner they haven't taken against people similarly situated in the past. >> ari i tend to agree with you

if they were doubts the government felt they had a right to have that should have all been negotiated expeditiously, i would tend to agree with you but i don't think the raid was necessary, but the favorite word of the media and democrats is this is what about im. hillary clinton top secret classify emails no prosecutor would prosecute no raid at chappaqua. we have joe biden next to his beautiful corvette at his home in delaware then the beach house and then the university of delaware papers none of which were raided and with no details of what they discovered there either so i don't think it's about what aboutism as much as about equal justice and equal application of our laws and that's not something the left in this country seems to care about. >> no, it's a principled stand actually sean because it means

you have to have equal rules for all and we know what can be followed and how to obey the law but when you see the law is waved for situation in a similar situation donald trump was in only worse because she's electronic records which can be hacked from russia china iran. >> we did hear from her intelligence agencies they believe in fact foreign entities did have access to her servers. >> right. that's my point. i think what she did was worse in terms of the ability her enemies to access those documents so when she wasn't indicted i don't see how they make the case against presume. but one or thing for viewers at home. the president does have absolute authority to declassify anything on a whim. he can say as long as he's sitting president i declassify and runs the executive paragraph. it's declass fight. having said that though, you need processes in place. if the president walked in my

office and said the document you're looking at that top secret i declassify, i wouldn't tell a soul about that document until the world top secret was struck and signature of declassification officer was on the paper attesting it is no longer classified. i would treat it as classified even though the president said that. >> but there isn't that set process and to me that's a failure of government and the national archives and records administration. that's a huge problem. >> donald trump did, president trump did have unilateral authority to declassify anything he wanted as president and that will be one of his adult film stars so long as the doubts he held were declassified while he was president. you need a process though to prove that the that's where this becomes legally muraky. >> it gets interesting too the judge in this case has been pretty outspoken and firm he didn't want any leaks in this

case and she wanted a lid to be kept on all. this apparently that's been violated by somebody. i don't know, why do i assume a like to a liberal outlet likely didn't come from some conservative but maybe somebody close to that special counsel? just a guess. what do you think kaley? >> yeah, you know sean that is a key point. i sit here and i see these things these details of the case in a court of law by a special counsel and they're aired on cnn. we debt a transcript of the tape. we get an audio recording of the tape. how does that happen? how was that not violative of the process? i saw in a poll 30 percentile approval rating of the doj and fbi. we need confidence in our government institutions and this doesn't instill much when it's leaked to if like of cnn. >> what aboutism is called equal

application of our laws and considering in a raid any of the four location joe biden had top secret documents and let hillary off the look and our enemies had access to that information and she deleted another 33,000 subpoenaed emails and got away with that and the dirty dossier that was used for fisa application none of which were true i'm standing by my only natural monologue saying we have a corrupt government and a weaponized doj and weaponized fbi and the american people are seeing it more, it's becoming more transparent every day. ari, kaley thank you. straight ahead this wagner group pushing back against vladimir putin. what does it mean for his role as leader of russia or was it a head fake? we will have a debate, dan hoffman rebecca copler both

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>> the eyes of the world focused on russia when mercenaries the wagner group heading for moscow nearly igniting a civil war you fighting in crane on behalf of putin until the leader of the wagner group who used to be a putin kate err claimed a russian airstrike killed several men taking one key town reportedly downing russian air yasser arafat and helicopter along the way but a peace deal parently saturday before the group reached the russian capital what does it mean for putin and ukraine?

dan and rebecca. rebecca you wrote putin e playbook. you work with cia national clandestine service and defense agency. you think this didn't happen. you think they were working together. you surprised me with your analysis today. why do you believe this isn't what everybody thought it to be, ana tempted coup? >> here's why. none of this adds up sean to anyone who doesn't have any evidence. prigozhin supposedly reached as far as the gates of moscow, very quickly without having any casualties whatsoever. he basically got closer to moscow than hitler did, who had close to a million troops and prigozhin had just several

thousand. that's just one point. the next point is that basically, moscow, and putin specifically had wagner group and the extension of the russian state, conducting military operations all over the world as the russians tried to do the quote-unquote delicate affairs and this guy decided to turn on them and as he got close to moscow he decided i'm not going to do that because there's going to be too much bloodshed. we are dealing with one of most murderous people in the entire world. okay? yevgeny prigozhin and then he didn't want to spill blood? in fact, it's very consistent with what the russians call the reflective control doctrine that is designed specifically to

confuse the western intelligence services so that putin seems weak and if you putin is weak, how can he possibly win in ukraine and why do we need to pump in billions of dollars into ukraine? so he wants to demonstrate to us that we need to stand down. his government is imploding, his regime is about to collapse and there's absolutely no need for us to interfere in his so-called backyard. >> let me get dan hoffman's take on that. do you agree with that assessment? the consensus is it was ana tempted coup. >> look according to general keene institute study of war the wagner group shot down six russian helicopters as well as aircraft. vladimir putin liz in a village of lies and disinformation all

which yefg prigozhin upcoming occurred calling the war 18 most of failure. vladimir putin regime security today is more perilous than ever and prigozhin exposed that destroying any hope for unity of command by so criticizing the army chief of staff. he lost 20,000 guys in bakmut and he's had a long standing feud with shoygu who is one of putin's key advisers. he relies on the minister of defense and the director of the fsb so i don't see any of this happening. vladimir putin it's an interesting theory but i don't see evidence to support it. vladimir putin would have to be, yes. >> listen. putin is now targeting

residential areas left and right hospitals schools infrastructure indisriminate murdering kids. him being dead it makes me happy. however that doesn't mean prigozhin is going to be the answer because he doesn't seem like a man with a heart that would care about the russian people. however there was video of him being praised by the russian people as he was making that march initially to moscow. how do you interpret that dan and then quick answer rebecca. >> he's a populist very charismatic leader and you're right. this is the most unstable we have seen russian internal politics as the failed kgb coup of 1991 but in '91 there was boris yeltsin in the wings. there's nobody out there we can see to take putin's place. >> i don't see prigozhin being different? rebecca yes or no. gotta roll. >> he is worse. prigozhin is a very despicable

character and you can imagine this guy in charge of the nuke asses they will? >> no. >> russian is in possession of 6,000 nukes. >> i gotta run. thank you both. bud light under fire again another controversial sponsorship and officials in new york coming for your wood fired pizza. get ready.

>> all right. apparently bud light didn't learn its lesson. it was a sponsor of toronto pride parade attended by young children and had fully naked adults desperate to jump start sales they're reportedly offering customers rebates over the 4th of july. with reaction podcast host tudor

dixon and editor for washington examiner kaley mcgee. did we have to have guys naked on bicycles in front of children sponsored by bud light of course? >> yeah, one would be forgiven for thinking bud light would have learned its lesson considering anheuser-busch lost $27 billion in stock value but this goes to show it's not about money. it's not the bottom line. money is not the priority for companies like bud light. the priority is ideological domination. these companies see themselves as woke colonizers whose goal is convert those parts of the public resisting left issa ideology so they don't care about the money. what they care about is changing the way you think and live and this is just another example of that. >> tudor i talked to people all the time. it's infecting every single

corporation. however, that's internally usually. and these are the policies state mandates, these are the policies, we have it on paper, et cetera. that does not necessarily have to be public, does it? in other words dylan mulvaney didn't have to happen, sponsoring a parade with naked men on bicycles in front of children didn't have to happen. why are they doing it? >> well, and they're not learning their lesson about the kids. that's the crazy part about this is they had these people out in front of kids and the they know that this is the way these pride parades are going, they know children are coming and people are exposing themselves but to see these men out there walking around exposing themselves with big bud light signs behind them have got to know it's bad and put out a statement saying we are going to but something out you guys are going to like we are going back to our klein tell and impress you. this is not impressing us. there is not enough bud light in

the world to make them look good if this weren't an event with children people would be it's wonderful, if i drink more bud light. >> kaley another guy wearing a giant penis costume covering his entire head, sorry i missed that one. wow. but the kids saw it. >> yeah and you're right but they're deliberately targeting kids and but right isn't the only company like this targets disney multiple u.s. corporations whose audience is primarily young families with young children. this is not an isolated event. >> you know what, how about we leave the kids alone? just a simple rule. leave them alone in school, leave them alone in parades. let's think of other people and the fact that maybe children down need to be no pun intended, exposed to all. this more hannity straight ahead.

programming note wednesday and thursday night a live audience. new york city. tickets are free. sign up go to hannity.com remmingster we love to see you. a lot of football throwing. never miss an episode let not your hearting troubles laura is abandoning us? when is going on there. >> i will skr to address that later in my show. so you will not steel my thunder on that. i appreciate you trying. ruin stepping on my thunder. we will joke we have