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asw, as a result, judge doty issued unhinge ad sanctioneral against all federal government employees from having contac tntact with social media companies and discouraging or removingwi free speech. that means the cdc, the fbi, the doeansj, the white house. the judge specifically. namechecked. white house spokeswoman. karine jean-pierre. hhs secretary xavier becerracrer and surgeon general vivek murthy. noy n generalw on your screen if prohibited activities for the feds, which include meeting, emailing, flagging, callin meetingg, collaborating, threatening, urging, following up or issuing bolo g,s. be on the lookout for censoredt content with social media. it is an absolutelye ce stunning rebuke of the censorship deep state and the biden administrationnsp and it's a win for free speech. r, the bidenou administration has appealed this judge's injunction. k

now, judges don't usually talk like this. they don't issue such scathinghi opinions or broad injunctions. why here? well, judge judy wrote, if i the allegations made by the tru plaintiffs are true, the present case arguably involvesthse argua the most mase attack against free speech init united stateed stas history. a massive win today for free speech that did not go over so well with our enlightened elithe who have taken up the cause of censorship. thwalter isaacson, a professoren and an author who has written biographies on albert einstein and henry kissinger and steve jobs, among others, said this on msnbc. >> now, then judge dodd to hishk decision goes too far. too i clearly feel that in the end, the decision will be refined somewhat because government hasp to have the right to have its own free speech to push back wheushey sen they see thins on social media they think are dangerous. >> the governmenat are danget he its own free speech to push back on things that arn h e

dangerous on social media. how, isaacson he surely has enough honorary degrees to know that the government is notnoknow a private citizen and that their suggestions, their speech caezen ann carry the force of ce law. but what is he talking about when he talks about something being dangerous? beins? dangerouthing that must be censored? well, that was also answered today on msnbc as the judge makes exceptions for the j natic security and criminal activity. but isn't there a fine linurinae when it comes to national security, specifically, segecially when we're talkin about elections here, the fact that election, you know, the fullt th faith of the amerin public has in elections could i be undermined. >> couldn't that potentially be a national security threat? see. ursnational oh, so like terrorism, specific, violent threats, vaccine, misinformation, covid origins, mask compliance. rfk jr. donald trump denying the results of or tweeting about and potentially influencing an election outside. of course, if you're in

the approved thought, you know, dangerous. ous. benjamin weingarten wrote today in the new york post. imaginten wrote an america withc search. >> actual speech police wherever chatter on social media questions the integrity of the vote speechgrity of. police who then take to the airwaves to attack those makinai the claims. if this sounds farfetched, consider that last summeetchedry a national security agency actually mulled the idea of deploying a rapid response team to local jurisdictions to help election officials fend off miss this and mail information. mdm related threats, including through communications, an idea that one fed called fascinating. now that dystopia was our reality, we now know, thanks to a new report from the houso a e weaponization committee, the report reveals how an agencls how ay, cisa, wha originally tasked with combating foreign cyberattacks and defending the grid, came to target americans.

tweetse cam questioning mail in ballots. and get this, cisoget thiss director jen easterly has said cognitive infrastructure. you know what's infrastructure? everything's infrastructure here, apparently, including what you think patrolling cognitive infrastructure is critical, thus justifying cisa, censoring dangerous speech. it truly is what was said by judge dougherty, orwellian. ore said no more of this from the ministry of truth. e to >> what's your message to platforms like facebookacebo they're killing people. i mean, it really., well, look, the only pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated and that they're killing people. >> we are asking technology companies to help lift we are aup the voices of credible health authorities. it's also why they have to dthio more to reduce

the misinformation that's out there so thaduce themisinfort th of experts can shine. facebook should provide publiclyin and transparently daa on the reach of covid 19. covid vaccine misinformation. not just engagement, but the reach of the misinformationm . >> now it's understandable, meaning you don't excuseation. , but you can conceive why the democrat party, federal agencies of permanentgt washington are so antagonistic to free speech. >>on areo antagoic they want no to their power, but it's atthei least slightly surprising that the press is so anti press. sho >> let me show you something from the monday edition of the "new york times". in an article entitled gop threatened spy agency tool.llance the article is about republicans fighting section 702 of the for foreign eignt. lance intelligence ac section 702 allows for warrantless surveillance of o foreign targets. >> it was originally intended as a tool in the war on terrorre . >> but if those foreign targets in some way allegedly connect

to an american. well, we're off and running. off aand boy, have we run. 702 it's been used against blm rioters, january six protesters and rioters. and, of course, through carter page two, target, donald trump. congressman jim jordan of ohio has said there's nf o way we're going to reauthorize that in its current form. horize t possible way. it's interesting, at one time, democratits, the left in the media, looked at federal government surveillance skepticall y. imes w but now the new york timesro wrote on monday an intensiven drive by right wing republicans in congress to vilifintensivy ti with charges of political bias has imperiled a progra mto allowing spy agencies to conduct warrantless surveillance on foreign targetr. ,sapping support for a premierin intelligence toog suppl and amplifying demands for stricter limits. ricterits.the new york times chf spying on americans.

you see, republicans had a change of heart on 702 and became champions for free speech because they became the target for illegale surveillance and censorship. the press and democrats, who once championed themselves as protectorats of free speech, also had a change of heart on surveillance and censorshipcc because they liked that republicans became the target of surveillance and censorship. in the end, this entire story, o it's not about free speech. it's not about speech at all. a it's only about and has alwaysbo been only abouen onlt control in power. that is, i guess, unless a judge in louisiana can really stop big brother journalist michael shellenberger joins us now. mike, it's always great to seey you. you've seen the judge's opinion. you are deep inthaeee'so this. a you have reported extensively on the government surveillance programsved extens. a >> what do you think? was this a great victory for free speecfr speech? w >> absolutely. it was a great f 4th of july

to get this 155 page ruling. it's important to point out that judges don't normallyon a d issue rulings on a federal holiday. the judgesjudges i think, clearp can't prove it. but i think clearly making a statemenrot for freedom of speech and as you just described, you could see by thes people protesting it, who'stiea really on the side of freedom frh. eeclly on >> it's at this point, really more republicans than democrats and some true liberals, i would say, who still understand thatle at the heart of what liberalism at least used to be was freedom of speech. but look, it's an amazing ruling. i think the key thing to understand about it is that there is a long way to gthe key i think it's inevitable the supreme court will hear will take a hearing on thia s i. and may end up making a ruling about it. but what this what the documenti does, what the ruling by the judge, as he explained, is verny clearly that the white house was directly threatening hous stance of social mediaco companies, particularly this thing knowmp thisn as section 2, which is their license to exist. they were threatenine linse togt

and threatening to take it away if the social media companies didn'tal censor true informatio, including about vaccine side effects. it was truinclccine sidee and ae information that's in the public interest. a lot more to be said abou the t it,y but it's a huge victory for now. >> and we should definitely say, you know, mightfo going to ask you this, this is a victory when it comes to government influence on freee speech, but beyond simplye. government coercion, the united states has a unique cultural embrace of freedom of speech and one of the things that i'm concerned about is either because of the government bifluenc eithee or because big h just does so on their ownt do account. e of we now have a culture of censorship beyond government influenc governmee. and so what i'm concerned about is, regardless of the government's influence, big tech will continue to censor. you've been inside of these companies now reporting, as we said, extensively. do we you think big tech, evene without government influence, will continuoue to censor ore cr will they embrace the culture of free speech ? o >> well, first of all, you're absolutely right. the censorship industriall

complex is sort of the government manifesto cal version of what we used to call cancel culture or political correctnes s or wokeism. so they clearly work together. i mean, 99% of the donations from twitter employees before elon musk were to democrats. it was a very woke culture. but then they were more thanoo happd they wery to oblige fbi and government demands for censorship. solige fbi and gov i think the t congress has to mandate transparency by bie trang tech.e they've got to start firing some of the people that were involved in the censorshipwho wo we can finally restore our tradition of free speech. maybe we can starte our tr witha >> michael shellenberger, always great to talk to you. thank you for all your reportingyst to tal . nks go >> thanks. well, good to be with you. a final rulingodith you. is stit to come in the case, but there's no disputing that the evidence against the bideng e administration is and unprecedented. there has never been this level ofrationunprec documented coord to censor americans between the executive branch and somcee of the most powerful tech companies in the world. jonathan turley is a jon universitylarompanhe world law professor and a legal scholar, and he joins us to assess the legal ramificationsa.

of this case. jonathan, great to see you tonight. as we have mentionedt to seeonii you. will the biden administration has already initiated or said istrationitiatet will sooni decision. but let's talk about what happens in the meantime. thission.let's judge's injuncts the day until that appeal is heard , isn't that correct?ct so his extensive list of you shall not to the federal government when it comes to controlling speech and big techen it co, that's the law of the land that's controlling government censorshicop. >> yeah, that's supposed to be how it works is very hard, obviously, to enforce, you know, the injunction aspect of the ruling is likely to have a tough going on the fifth circuit, which has previously pushed back on circu previou th. but what a lot of people are focusing on in the injunction are missing what came before it in order to issue an injunction. inanthe court had to find thatte there was a substantial likelihood of prevailing the on the merits. well, what are the merits? the court said that the united states government has the largest censorship program i

in our history. and, you know, six months ago, i testifieour id on that system before the housen and all of us testified for the further investigate of that system.ttac we're attacked by thked e democratic members and they tha insisted, well, that's just your opinion. there's no factst is to supporti and even though we would point to the twitter files, they'dntot say, well, those aren't factshe either. well, here's a fact. here'sact.e just issued 155 page opinion. and by the way, those 155 pages only deal with a fraction of the censorship system that michael and others have. detailed. really quickly, professor turley, i want to ask you this ickly, iw it pla . we'll see how it plays out in the appellate courts. buthpellatt if this injunction is supposed to hold the day, as you mentionedd to, how does t you said it difficult to enforce if tomorrow karine jean-pierre goespodium back to the white house podium and begins to hectoring, threaten big tecanh companies?

how is she punished? how is the injunction stopw pur or president biden or the cdc from doing s presio? >> yeah, it's very hard v to enforce because it's veryions hard to see the violations. in fact, the only reason we know about the censorship system is because twittee censoe purchased by elon musk and he turned over the files. otherwis the fe, we wouldn't hae known any of this. >> yeah. yeah. it seemss. yeah. like a victory. i know it's always a bigger war when we win. itr is a victory, but it is a v victory for free speech. professor turley, really appreciateicch.ciat you being w. thanks, will. all right. so cocaine was found at the white house. the administration is not sayinge ads no much other than u us know joe and hunter definitely weren'tnt there when it was found. so where did it come from? miranda devine is next.

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is there another likely suspecnt ? how many crackheads do you have in the white house? how many you the media, meanwhile, madee light of the story. >> and i don't wanstory.t to her i don't want to hear from, you know, president biden orparc trump. i would like to hear from one person in particular. capi bill that used to situl on capitol hill for schoolhouse rock. >> this is so unusua rockl. hite you and i have covered the white house for years. i can't even fathom anythingng like this having been found beforeke in the west wing. and i go back to this evidence at the white house. so this is pretty pretty wild. >> i would like to know blow by blow, who is responsible for this? too soons respon. no on >> don't do it. that's it. no one was injured, as far as we know. and it's an illicit drug atand t the whit'se. b >> why can't you actually have a bit of fun with it? can you imagine if the whitean u house was occupied i by donald trump? this white house knows it's

bad. biden's main kno je flat karine jean-pierre tried to claim the cocaine was found in c a heavily trafficked area. >> but one thing that i cancked share that aret i'll that i'lle a little bit more information. as you know, the the the president and the first lady and their family were not here. this and theil weekend, as you l reported on this. and as you also know a that they left on friday and returned just yesterday whereturnee where this was discd is a heavily traveled area. when people visit the west wing, therpeople ve is an air te is the area of the west wing where it is highly traveled.at and that is what happens. people come through this particular area as highly traveled. i'm just not going to get into specifics. weaveled. et into spec do have a west winr that occur here on campus. . they happen in this particular past couple of days. they happen friday, they happeny on saturday and sunday. >> except it wasn' at found in a heavily trafficked area. it was found in the west wing. n the media and administration

have also made a big point about it being foundisn when the bidens weren't at the white house. but that kind of misses the poinat kind t. what matters is when it was lost, was it los t when they were at the white house, whose cocaine was it rented?s a divine is a "new york post" columnist and she joins us now. >> miranda, i have to believe this is not an unanswerable question. who dropped the coke in the white house? surely there are some cameras. e >> surely there arere some fingerprints. surely we . n find out >> well, exactly. and really, i think it's beholden on the secret service, which karine jean-pierre assures us is conducting an investigatiossures n. ell th they need to tell the americane people who. well, you know, to rule out the obvious suspect and to tell the american people that they have discovered it, who its was, and that whoever that person is has been dealt h withn

this is an extraordinary situation. and i think you sa extraordiw fm the questioning of the white house press secretary todag y that it's actually traded seriously across the board. they were five or six questions asking. well, if this illegal substance somehow managed to get through the veryegal submehow ma heavy the white house, how do we know thatho some substance like, say, anthrax or some, you know, lethal poison hasn't found its ? t, whe the white house and in fact, when the secret fo powdercall that whiten and they called the hazmat team in the hazmat teamed sent severl trucks, they were all dressed up. that they took it extremelythey seriously. they checked checked and found n preliminary tests with their handheld device, it waar as coce ,powdered white powder, cocaine and but when they came get, the dispatch shows that they had to hose them get hosed

off. so it was treated ofd it should be treated seriously by the white house inte houser their disclosures to the american public. >> yeah,res to the ame i'm i'm s miranda, that if that thisanda is going to go the same way of the supreme court leaker, the january 6th bomber, it's going to find its way into the unsolved mysteriesit will .u because as you point out, this p should be easily solvable. and is kind of a big deal.nally i'm glad. by the way, finally, the press chosth te to take something seriously, not potential corruption at the highest levels of the white house, but a coke in the west wing. we found their bar. we'll take coke seriousl.y, miranda, we always take you seriously. thank you so muc th. >> thanks, will. tha all right. robert f kennedy jr's y jr. is driving drivi liberals nuts. the atlantic ran a headline article todangy titled, quote,ci there's no such thing as an rfk voter. never mindng the fact that rfk r defends the values the left used to hold dear. he's antiwar, he's pro-free speech. he's anti corruptionantiwar,, as

campaign is working. >> according to a recent poll, he supportedrding to. 31% of el% voters who backed joe biden in 2020. kevin walling is a former biden campaign surrogate is a and he joins us now. >> kevin, great to have you on the program tonight. you know, i am a little taken aback, i guess, maybe naively, that the response from most of the democratic party has bee n either censor, ignore or dismiss. robert f kennedy jr. >> despite how he polls and despite the issues he. champions. >> well, it's good to be with you. i think that's going to be that's of any incumbent president, whether it be a republican or a democrat, it ben any kind of primary challenge that we're seeing from someone like a robert chaly jr. you saw it in 2020 when02 the incumbent president, donald trump, was challenge0 whend, two former republican members of congress, a forme r republican governor of massachusetts. they didn't want to acknowledge their presence in the racernor d whatsoever at all. you know, there were calls to debate and the trump teamto said, no, we're not going to do that. we're not going to even entertain that. so you're seeingertain that

same dynamic play out, i think, on the left now with an sicumbenut on tht president of the democratic side. >> so i hear you. you're saying it's par for for an incumbent to ignore a rival challenger in a reelection cycle. but let me ask you about the substance of rfk jr. you know, i do find it as well absolutely fascinating that he is dismissedg that as a quack af most of the left, where he is championing issues that i don't. how far do i have to go back, kevin? five. do i need to gck.o back ten yea? that seemed to be centralbe to the democratic party's platform, like, for example, being skeptical of international. is na that's not joe biden, that's rfk. you knowch, being concerned abob the power and influence of big pharma and big corporations. that'sigand not joe biden. that's rfk being concerned about free speech. that'sbeen c not joe biden. that's rfk. why make fun o nacho bf the man who champions your previously held big positions? >> well, listen. well, you know, you make some interesting points. i thin>> you mk he's an interesg combination of both kind of right wing held views and left

wing held views as he's campaigning right now across the country. e is che's talking about sealinw the border with mexico. he's talking aboutitco, you knob obviously problems with vaccines in his estimatiovn in this country.ut he's talking about pulling support from ukraine. all kind of issues that are more aligned on the right. he's also talking abou.t toxins in our water, in our air, you know, serious concern of.he the left. so i think he's an interesting general election candidate, actually, based on those issues, some of the issues that you just pointed out. well, but i think whent a democratic primary is not against an incumbent democrat of his own party is not going to be a successful operation for bobb not a sy jr.n a >> yeah, i guess in a way, though, kevin, what you just did is lay out for me the movement we have seen from the democratic party ceiling haa caring about illegal immigration and caring about the sanctity of the borderlgratd questioning whether or not we should go to war in various places across world wonderingwo about mandated medicines. i didn'tnderinated think those e right wing issues. i thought those were commonsense, centris is. i t issues in

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like they're innocent and all of the things that have beenirin transpiring to the point where it ignited their future to suchl a degree that they felt the need to opposee need such t. >> the inequities that have taken place in this country, minority communities, who exacted that, who displayedx that, who exercised those actions? who were the instigatorserns and perpetrators of all of that? >> who was that exactl i th >> wasn't that white america? i think it was steven smith, the host of the steven smith show and first take on espn joins us now. steven, great to. >> see you, man., what's going on, buddy? how are you doing? me? >> l go right at that clip. is that how we should do this? we just starstt to fee startl o. there's no such. go on. i know you are. tephen a the problem is, steven, a in in truth, when it comeshing to justice, there is no such thing as black america and white america. ase are only individuals. whenso when you assign culpability to individuals of

the past, to individuals of today, they're simply nothing an to hold anyone accountable fore . why do i pay to pay the price for the sins of the paste case f and you reap the benefits? in the case of the affirmative action, i'm not saying you had affirmative actionrmativ , but you as a black man would reap the benefits of affirmative action forts oive acti the sinsp on someone of the past. we are only in the end, steven a individualass. undeell, first of all, i get where you're coming from and i can understand how you would look at it that waouldy. you have to respect the fact that i have a different cultural background, thate a diff thani nce you, and i might feel a bit differently about it. what i would tell you is this there's sothere ar many peoplerf and people that have been supportive of the supreme court's latest rulinmeg are ofm the mindset that blacks were getting an unfair advantage. what black people would contend to you is that it wasn't an to advantage.ntage. remember, race wase a consideration. was one of many consider races l would be taken into the equation. when you tald be k about colleges admissions. and i think ultimately diversity, equity and inclusio ann of th

is next. personally, when you think about some of the things that have taken place in corporatings het that america, but it wasn't that itit was an effort to sort of make ws an effor at to even to play. it scales to some degree because of the inequities. becay. n-amer that gets the african-american community in this country. it wasn't about giving theicn cm advantage. it was about highlighting the fact that they were discriminate thatg thd, meaning we were discriminated against at that particular moment in time. and that's why the policy was instituted to begin with. so when folks are walkinghere around acting as if there is a i reason to celebrate, and i'm lookins a to celebg folks that l that are feeling like somehow, some way they've been short changed, my mentality is, wait a minute. the policies wer minute.e impled to begin with because the african-american community was being shortchanged and theyy we were being denied the same privileges oniedr the same. opportunities that were accorded to white folks in america. >> wy tot would say to tha is you do not solve past discrimination by present or future discrimination. and there were certainly injustices under the banner of affirmative action inflictediscn upon individuals, whether or not they be white or asian-american in harvard. io

in the situation at harvard, an african-american student in the to studentp percent of his academc class, or even a had just as good a chance as an asian student or a white student in the top 10% of their class. does that just is that just discrimination? >> n diso. and by the way, if you you know, and i'm sure you did listen to my podcastlisten t ani appreciate you doing so. if you recall, i did not sayif c you know what? i did not say that it wasn't discrimination. i acknowledg. e facte the you didn't see me. you didn't hear me speak against, you know, anyone from con community thatto the brought that case to the justices. i understood whereustices. theye coming from. my argument was against folks t would sayiaica thas even, you know, presidential candidate donald trump talking about now we get back to america, you know, a society based on merit, ignoring what brought affirmative action policies into play to begine pep with. we have people in white americae acti as if they don't know how it came about.

somebody from the asian community or the latinoissue community, they had an issue and they felt that they whate de they they were they they denied an opportunity. that's a differentan opp argumet that white america coming up to say we don't feel that we've been treated that we fairly. thu this is where we when the unfairness was exactedha by white folks in america. well, that's where you and i go full circle and get a little bit uck in t stuck in the mud,er because i will refer to talking about individuals. individuals are not to be white or asian can be the victims ofe injustice and discriminationvi. but i do want to ask you a 1970s sincere question. in the 1970s, in the 1970s, w when the the the program of affirmative action was implemented, steve, and at that time the supreme courtthat timsn nine state said there would be a day when it would no wheger be required when they r upped it in 2003, they anticipated another 25 years of affirmative action. wellicipated, we came just shorf that. it's been 22 when it's beensionw 2021 years since that decision was made at the supreme court. >> the question is, even the sus you're making up for past sins, a, when does it come to an end?

when do we stop discriminating on the basis of racep di? when people in positions of power have proven peoplen that they're exercising fairness come or high watesing fair, its really, really that simple. >> i'm so glad that you asked that question because itthat is that define this. whll, again, but again., you're looking at numbers. for example, why do we say why don't yale and idn'tn the 70s st up there and say we want 10% ofo our student populacepu to be mae up of minorities? you know why? because they knew without those rulethey ks, those laws in plac, they didn't anticipate that that would be allowed in today' antould bs corporate ame. you still have folks you have black folks being paid less than whit lese folks. you have black women being poorly paid less than white women. ones you have white women obviously deserving a lot of opportunities that deseof o richly deserve. they're getting paid less than white men. but wee men. turn there's a level of unfairness that's being exercised, which is building the changes. that is the law as opposed to somebody's conscience. so's consc all those differences to race when there's so many different contributing factors m into why

corporate america may look a certain way. loertain we sports. turna we both debated in sports. i could play. turnabout is fair playing, though. whplay and whyy aren't there moa players? that must be that must be discriminatio. dn. we but we both know the answer is because merit has dictated who'merit has in the nba and whs happening in society. and i would never see and i would neveer is haocietynever s. decision made is purely based upon merit. but we should aspire to that we aspire to that. right. and i think that the supreme t decision has been a big leap forward in getting to where we judge things based upon merit. well, you would say that and i would say to you that the power structure in the united states o uf america is stillominantl predominantly white. and so as a result, white america is asking you to dotimae is ultimately to trust that your heartly is going to be in the right place. and there are a plethora of people throughout minority of pd communities in this country who would challenge that and would say, no, we don't necessaril and y believe that to be hel the case, which is why we need the laws to help us. whp sports, a you

and i have argued back and forth as friends and brothers talking about the world of place. sports and some of the inequities that have taken place. you can bring up the nbaca, fort example. i can point to something called the meritocracy, because i seeos their performance on the court just as much as you do. we ae is a some curtain is at some proverbial glass ceiling where we're literally witnessing it. buerally w t when we look at the nfl, for example, the rooney rule was still in existence. the tethis is the number one professional sports league in this country. why is the rooney.y rule still n existence? because we've seen one opportunity after another, we hr another where capable, cap qualified black individuals were bypasseab d because of the system that was in place, primarily won by white toimarilindividuals who asked uo trust them, but did prove they weren't worthy of the trust that they requested. and so those are the kind of challenges we havekinds of deal with as a country, and there's just no way around. there are different ways we can t be. ngbetter is people like you up itself and myself talking about it honestly abo and openly? i agree. and i will say tha agrt i thinen the mistake that we often makerl and where you and i find our debate is when we ascribe all those differences to thedifn

the big factor being race. listenactor, next time we'rea together, i won't have a conversation with you about thom thomas. most am he's one of the most amazing black men in the history of the united states of america. and i do not feel like you're giving him too credit to anyone. but we'll get there. we don't have to it right now. before we go to you, let'se go stay, too. too many people in americat's s okay, we go. before we go. great. let's stays stay o on the note f sports. who wins in the fight? you have analyzed fights. ana elon musk or mark zuckerberg? >> man, that's a tough one. elon musk just looks like a weird individual. >> you just he just different ways. he's a big dude, though. he's considerably bigger than zuckerberg. >> zuckerberg is a small guy, but they sayrk zuckeuy he's beeg brazilian brazilian jiu jitsu. >> and ijitsu.n the of elon musg he said is that i'm just going to be a big body. body on himn him and maneuver to move call it the walrus where i just lay on him and do nothingan.

if i got a better one andi one or the other. yeah, i would bewoult on a jiu jitsu artist. but elon musk is a big dudelon g and if he falls on mark zuckerberg, i mean, who knows? i don't knowo knows?. i'll go with zuckerberg. i'm going to go with the underdog. i'll go with zuckerberg. you have to take l of the t the tape on the screen when you're talking. >> and i'll be i'll be real as well. elonreal. musk, it's six one dot look like 187. he looks like 187.e he's about o ten, which would be a great advantage. yeah, but i'm going to i'mk zucr going to go with the guy who is trained. i'm going to go with zuckerber g as well. do >> that's what i'm doing this year. this is not boxing. waing..s boxings i would pick ms zuckerberg. i mean, again, you're a martial artist. >> you got a chance. i'll always it man even and because we disagree. >> thank you, stephen smith. >> that's right. my pleasure, bro. all right. myd in ben and jerry's celebrating the 4th of july by attacking america. >> and for some reasonerica., what used to be radical is now totally acceptableradica.

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some on the left use the 4th of july to remind us that they hate america. i truly debated whether or not to d.o this segment tonight,nt a whether or not to even give it oxygen. bund g oxygen.t it's becoming m. congresswoman cori bushcked attacked our founding on twitter, writing, quote, the declaration of independence ouitter ris written by enslavers and didn't recognize black people as human. toda a y is a great day to demandnow. reparations. >> now, ben and jerry's used the holiday to criticize the united states for existingre . they wrote, quote, we exist on stolen indigenous land.land. we even know this, though, that ben and jerry's headquarters sits on land that once belonged to several native american tribes. see this hatred of america? as i said, it's becomingthis h a more mainstream. this used to be something that was relegated to crazy college . campuses, and now it's everywhere. but instead of giving it any i g more oxygen the way i thought we should respond tonight was to talk to someone who has dedigated their life to servin

and loving this country, to talking to formeruntry. navyl and good friend of mine, bill brown. bill, it's great to see you, man. eat to s youyou too. well, you know, i've hadng the pleasure of being around you on several aro occasions no. and one thing i know about you,o eiich anyone who knows you did, what, eight years as a navy seal is, is how much you love america. why? because our nation was the onlyy nation ever found, you know. no ideion evera. ideals of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and equality o. and that's transcribed in a declaration of independence and a constitution. r and if you look at our history, we take great strive live upe to that. you had a civil war. we lost hundreds of thousands ofwelost americans. had we had great leaders lik geluthr martin luther king jr. we talke kd about. when i look at his message about judging a person by the content of their character and by their actions. and andi think, you know, we've had some struggles, but we've continuously had a path to equality and living up to those values inlues in

a constitutional declaration of independence. and you have dedicated your life constiof indepe becaue in those ideals so, so deeply. you've dedicatedeply your life to literally defending america. now, i've had the chanceg ameria to hang out with you on several occasions, including this morning. you and i got up at roughly 6 a.m., and together we swam across the hudson river from new jersey, past the statue of ewliberty to ellis island all the way over to manhattan. you anmanhattad i did this becaa one month we're going to deal with a whole bunch of navy seal navy s. s.e. raising money for the navy seal foundation is the new york city navy seal swima.oundatio new. but i will tell the audience this. when we swam this morning past the statue of liberty, i watched you a man who has i'm sure, taken bullets and shot bullets in defense of this country. look up at the statue of libertthis cryey with absolute e as we swim underneath her. swam unde for this countrye is clear. and this swim is an awesome wasy to honor america. thank you so much. well, it brings together great

americans, ceos, police officers, firefighters, veterans. s, policefirst responders. we all you know, you look at the we swam by the statue of liberty, a torch of freedom, ellis island,n famili how great american families have came through there to celebrate our nationand ev diversity and everybody who came to our country seeking a better lifero thee. this thank you so much for promoting this event. thank you so much foevent d tha >> fact very grateful. three mile swim, 300 push ups,ss 66 pull ups., you two can at least contrib contribute. hey, on my instagram, see will cain. there'ute on.s link to the navyl foundation. maybe you can find a way to give back to the new york cit by seals when bill, we're always in debt, man. thank you. it's an hono ir. >> all right. harri kamala harris does it again. while the biden administration tries to ban gastos, kamala posted a picture cooking on a gas stove. more hypocrisy nex at.

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theaters july 21st. well, gas stoves are the latest targetthose ar on the left's cli crusade. that is, unless you're kamala harris. kamala had no shame postings this photo of hersel f usingon the a gas grill in the 4th of july.4 >> and to make matters worse, she was eating meat. michelle tafoya is a former nfl sideline reporter and host ofd host the sideline sanity podcast and she joins us now. michellee sideli sandy, great t. but i am confused, too. i'm confused. i don' t understand.g ou i thought we were phasing out gas stoves. i thought meat was a problem. i thought all of this was a threat to the climate. and here i see kamal ttha at the grill. this is another rules for the and no t for me.peat >> and she isn't the only one. pete buttigieg has been photographed. joe biden, stacey abrams, manyjo democrats who claim thate t greenhouse gases or gas from our stoves are going to causase asthma and other things are cooking with them. >> elizabeth warren is anotherto one. i could go on and on. it's just i'm starting to wonder, lik.e, who thought b posting this would be a smarte ideaa sm and snapped the photo t

thinking, should we really be this photo and then posting it. so it's a little bit of two things here. >> the hypocrisy. number one, but kind of the foolishnesths of letting ths get out of your hands. get re know, i imagine there are those out there who might disagree with you or me and say let re beinge ticketek, you're being ticky tack. come on, let her live her life. bu notlife.blem is she's life. letting us live our life. she's a part of an administration that wants to takadminie those privileges and those conveniences and luxuries that we see in that picture awa thosey from tht of us. and i just don't know how you explain the hypocrisy, in michelle. i don't i mean, she didn't mean it in the first place. doesn't believ e the climatee scie science. >> again, i think it's reallncey for them to talk about climate and talk about everybody else changing habitlkrybodys. john kerry flying in his private jet, but telling everyone else, drive cars. sy ad it is major hypocrisy and i'm glad it's getting coverage. it needs more coverage. we need to see more and more and more of thi.eed to ss again, it is fostering a lack of trust among voters

and people who are on the outside. >> but absolutel the outsidey te earned it. they've earned it. from gavin newsom to kamala harris from gan to joe biden, . is thick. michelle tafoya it's great to see you. thank you so much. good to see you. all right. we've enjoye.so much.d with youe i hope you have a great evening. i'll be back here again tomorrowvein night. but for now, jason chaffetz, he's in for sean hannityet tonight. >> jason will, thank you so much. greallt show. always enjoy seeing you. appreciate it. thanks, jason. welldapprecgood e good evening e to this special edition of "hannity". i'm jason chaffetz i specn for sean.d we and we begin tonight with a truly unbelievable report. i >> cocaine has been found in the west wing of the white hous e. the secret service has confirmed to fox news that toy white substance discovered in the west wing offices on sunday was, in fact, cocaine. >> a full investigationnder w is supposedly underway. so how did this happenay? the cocaine in tte