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♪ ♪ aishah: congressional leaders are pressuring the secret service to provide an update on how cocaine got into the white house. the president ignores questions on the topic, and white house press secretary karine jean-pierre shuts down accusations of the drugs belonging to anyone in the first family. welcome to "fox news live," i'm aishah hasnie.
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griff: hour two, here we go, i'm griff jenkins. aiming to keep the focus on the latest jobs report amid the fallout. lucas tomlinson is live on the north lawn with the latest. >> reporter: good afternoon. all week the white house has refused to rule out the biden family from its list of suspects of who brought cocaine into the white house. white house press secretary karine jean-pierre even called it irresponsible to even can th. earlier you had a former justice department attorney asking the question that many americans are asking today. >> she's the one that's irresponsible in not giving a direct answer. it's very simple to come out and say no member of the biden family had anything to do with this cocaine, and the white house intends to insure that whatever staff member or guest put this cocaine in the white house is fully prosecuted under the law. we've not heard that from the white house press office, and
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you have to wonder, why not? >> reporter: there's the question. now, jean-pierre said the biden family had already left the white house when this cocaine was found. of course, there are millions of examples of someone leaving something behind when leaving a house. here is a map showing the crime scene. the cocaine was found on the ground floor of the west wing, x marks the spot there, near where visitors are taking tours and are supposed to leave their mobile phones, not cocaine, of course. in the last hour, we mentioned the 209,000 jobs created last month, that's the fewest since december 2020. coupled with high inflation, as you can see here on on the left side, not good news for the white house. with wage growth not keeping pace with inflation, this is a tax on the american people, of course. gop presidential candidate nikki haley spoke about this earlier today on fox. >> you got -- you've got 1 in every 6 american families that can't pay their utility bill, and they're spending like
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drunken sailors. it's a problem. as much as i'd love to blame biden, our republicans did this to us too. >> reporter: now, after months of delaying, the white house has approved cluster bombs for ukraine which have been asked repeatedly by ukrainian forces and president zelenskyy. it's a controversial move, some say, but those cluster bombs will be heading to ukraine shortly. griff: yeah, and, lucas, we're going to can ask the ukrainian ambassador to that. i just want to ask you one follow-up because i did erroneously mention the executive mansion, it's not. it's the west wing executive entrance there, traveled by a lot of vips, secretaries from dod, doj and the likes of that. so do we have any sense from secret service of when we're going to get more concrete details about this investigation? >> reporter: griff, white house officials speaking for the secret service say we could learn as early as next week as this investigation wraps up. whether there'll be a list of
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suspects or somebody formally charged, that remains to be seen. and one more thing about those clust orer bombs, the reason why the ukrainians so urgently want those cluster bombs is they're needed for the anti-personnel capability because these russian forces have dug over 600 miles of temperature trenches along the -- trenches in eastern ukraine, and their 155 rounds are running short. they want these cluster bombs to disperse millions of little bomblets, needed to take out the russian fors and get this counteroffensive moving. right now u.s. officials say the war in ukraine has ground to a stalemate. griff? griff: great insight. we'll ask the ambassador about that in moments. lucas tomlinson live9 from the north lawn, thank you very much. aishah: for more on all of this, let's bring in our political panel, matt hewland and jonathan cox, former communications director for senator joe manchin and a partner at capital council
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llc. welcome to the show, gentlemen. i hope you left your you know what at home. [laughter] we have the start with the cocaine issue, of course. karine jean-pierre getting a little bit of back hash from the press corps because she couldn't just say that this didn't belong to a biden family member. why was this so hard for her? >> i think she's just leaving it up to the secret service to investigate who actually did it. i imagine the secret service has a lot of tools at its hands. there's videotaping all over that place, they're going to have fingerprints. let the secret service handle this, let them issue the report, and if somebody brought cocaine in the white house, they're going to be penalized for it, probably a little bit of jail time depending on who it is. i assume there's somebody at home who knows they did this who is very nervous right now and i trust that the secret service is going to find this. i don't think the biden team should talk about it at all, let the secret service handle it.
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look, if it comes out it was somebody, then they can deal with it then, but i think she's right i'm going to leave it up -- aishah: matt, is she right to say the press corps is irresponsible for the questions? i imagine if this was the trump administration, they'd be asking questions. >> absolutely not. i think one of the problems that they have is this is just after the hunter biden sweetheart plea deal, and people are looking at this saying is this going to be another instance where the biden white house is not held to the same standards as other white houses, certainly the trump white house? this would be the top of the news for weeks until we found out who it was, and the speculation would be endless. aishah: yeah. expectations are really low right now. i don't know if we're ever going to find out. >> we may never find out. look, the secret service lost hours of text messages on january 6th, so there are some concerns there about how well the secret service -- >> this story has gotten so big that it is actually a market for
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betting in las vegas. aishah: people are texting me about in that don't even come u. everybody wants to know, whose cocaine is this? okay, we've got to move on to important stuff. this new hampshire issue is not going away, it's becoming a thorn in the white house -- or the president's campaign. lost their first in the nation status. it may not matter in the primary, jonathan, but it could hurt the president's reputation, some people are saying. >> sure. he's going to have to go up there. iowa, new hampshire take their first in the nation status very seriously. he's going to have to go up there and explain to new hampshire voters why he deserves re-election, and i think he's going to be able to do that with all the jobs he's going to be bringing to the state. he's got two senators there who voted for a lot of packages that are going to bring a lot of federal money and jobs to that state. he's going to have to go up there, probably apologize for taking it away, but then explain to them everything he's done to make their lives better. but i do think it was the right decision. iowa, new hampshire had their place.
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south carolina deserves to go first. it's more diverse, it's more economically diverse, more racially diverse can, and i think he made the right decision there. aishah: but do you think they were prepared for this reaction? >> i think they were prepared for the reaction. everybody who's done campaigns know how seriously iowa and new hampshire take their status. that's not -- aishah: okay. >> that's part of who you are. you learn that as a school child. aishah: okay, so primary, he's probably not going to win that state. but this is a swing state. in the general election, that matters. are we going to be watching this come november, which way it swings? because they could be very, very upset. >> absolutely. go back to 2016 and donald trump only lost the state by less than 1%, percentage point, i think it was about 2,000 votes. and it is a state that's ripe for republicans to definitely target particularly given what the president has done. he's trying to have the situation he had in the delaware pool yard with the corn pop where he's face down -- facing down an opponent without having
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to fight to opponent. but bobby kennedy's probably going to win that nomination, or the new hampshire primary, and that's going to give him a spike in the polls and maybe force the president to have to debate him. aishah: interesting. okay, so the age issue, i keep saying that might be a bigger problem for the biden campaign. check out this, we put up this brand new pew poll here, and it shows that nearly half of americans would prefer a president that is under 60. not surprising. so, jonathan, how can this president just put this issue to bed? >> i think he needs to use it as an a advantage. he is more seasoned now than he was four years ago. he has gotten so much accomplished in democrats' eyes that if that's what it feels like to be sleepy joe or old and tired, i hope to be that way when i turn 80 -- aishah: but it's the mental acuity. >> it's so bad that he is passing bipartisan legislation, negotiating deals with kevin mccarthy, he is signing more pieces of legislation than any other president?
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that's pretty good mental acuity in my eyes, and i hope i'm like that at 80. i doubt i will be. look, he's out there every day legislating -- not legislating, being the president, and that's the best campaigning he can do. voters will have to make that decision, but i think he has a record to stand on that's pretty good for a 40-year-old or a 50-year-old. aishah: matt, what's your reaction to that. >> absolutely 100% different than jonathan's reaction. [laughter] aishah: surprise. >> president biden has been president for almost three years now. he has what jonathan says are records of accomplishment. the american people don't see that. look at the economy -- aishah: inflation. >> -- he's underwater. inflation he's underwater by almost 30 points. foreign policy, he's underwater by 20 points. immigration he's underwater by 15. crime he's -- 30 points. so despite all these perceived accomplishments from the administering, the american people are not --
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administration, the american people are not buying it. so i do think the american people are looking for something different. i think you see karl rove put out an op-ed this week talking about the american people are looking for next generation leadership. and i think that's the opportunity that republicans other than donald trump have in the primary, guys like tim scott and ron desantis and nikki haley -- aishah: they're putting out push up-up videos and working how in the gym, so it is absolutely something people are talking about. let's talk about the other side of the aisle here and put up this poll, a fox news poll that shows where things stand right now when it comes to the republican contenders. and you can see there it does not look pretty for governor with ron desantis, slipping in the polls here. 34-point difference between him and former president trump. here he is on why he thinks that's happening. >> why is it, in your estimation, the numbers have not reflected your success in florida?
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>> well, i think if you look at the people like the corporate media, who are they going after? who do they not want to be the nominee? they're going after me. so i think if you look at all these people that are responsible for a lot of the ills in our society, they're targeting me as the person they don't want to see as the candidate. aishah: matt? what do you think of that? >> i think he's probably on to something, but other than that he has to get this down to a 2-person race. his campaign has put out some polling that shows in a 2-person race versus donald trump he's actually doing a lot better and beating him in some of the primary states. but right now he's stuck in that second position, and we have a big debate coming up in august -- aishah: we do, yep. >> everybody below him who has not gotten into double digits is going to come after ron desantis. if he has a good night, i think you're going to see him make it more into a 2-person race, but somebody like tim scott who is a great debater, has a great
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presence on stage may catapult themselves in and above ron ron desantis. aishah: i think all the pressure is on him, he has to perform. jonathan, what are democrats going to be watching for in that debate? >> how awful ron desantis does - aishah: he's the one to. watch. >> his biggest problem people are getting to know him, and it turns out his record in florida is hurtful to a lot of people and hateful. it's not resonating. he also, from every report, seems to be a weird guy with voters, and when you're in iowa and new hampshire, you have to talk one on one to them, and i don't think he does that really well. the person i'd be watching for is tim scott. he's a great debater, smart guy -- aishah: likable. >> he's the core of where the republican party should be, unfortunately, it's still donald trump's party until someone takes him out. aishah: we'll keep watching it. thank you. okay, so this week on "fox news sunday," shannon bream sits down with congressman john barrasso as well as democratic senator
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tim kaine. she'll also talk with 2024 republican presidential candidate chris christie. check your local listings for time and channel or set your dvr. also on "mediabuzz," howie kurtz talking about media outrage over the supreme court's recent spate of conservative rulings. that's tomorrow at 11 a.m. eastern. don't miss it. ♪ ♪ griff drink a family left reeling after a father of four was shot and killed in d.c. earlier this week, nasrat ahmad was finishing a late night shift in the nation's capital when he was shot. he was an interpreter in the u.s. army special forces in afghanistan who pled the country in 2021 when it fell to the talibanful alexandria hoff joins us live with more on this tragic story. >> reporter: it's just terrible. ahmad's wife is speaking out, once in the u.s. they first relocated to philadelphia.
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but after an armed robbery incident there, they moved to the d.c. area where they thought they would be safer. her husband of 13 years was killed early monday. a tow truck driver by day, he had picked up an extra shift driving lyft ford to make extra that money for his family. her words here are translated by her cousin. >> translator: she said he came home and he was tired and take a rest, one hour. she said, don't go. she said he said, i have to go because i have to make money for my children, for rent, for a bill, for everything. we need money. i don't want them to be hungry tomorrow. >> reporter: she didn't want to show her face still fearing the safety of her family back in afghanistan. he wants elected officials locally to be held responsible for the violence in u.s. cities that she says is too similar who to what this family fled in 2021. take a look at this, this is
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surveillance video that captured a single gunshot and four young males running from nasrat's vehicle, and you can even hear what they had to say. >> reporter: that him they were talking about was a legend, according to army friends he was raised near bagram airfield, at 10 years old he assisted u.s. troops and later officially worked as an interpreter for the u.s. military. special forces veteran matthew butler served two tours with nasrat. >> he essentially, in his short life -- 31 years when he passed -- he gave us 18 years in service of this country, not his. >> reporter: a gofundme for the family has so far raised over $338,000, it was just set up two two days ago. so far no arrests in the case, griff. griff: heartbreaking story,
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should never have happened. alexandria of, thank you very much. aishah: leslie van houten could be out from behind bars in just a few weeks. according to her attorneys, the former charles manson follower may soon be paroled after california governor gavin newsom dropped his push to block her release, something that he was able to do successfully three times before. van houten is serving a life sentence after being convicted alongside other manson cult members of the 1969 killings. the day before the labianca murders, the manson followers also killed actress sharon tate. van houten will have a 3-year maximum sentence. griff? griff: fox news alert, sixes people are dead after a fiery plane crash in murrieta, california. officials responded to a call shortly after 4:00 this morning when they found the downed aircraft in a field fully
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engulfed in flames. the six people onboard were pronounced dead at the scene. investigators are now working to determine the cause of the crash. if we get more, we'll bring it to you. aishah: ukraine's ambassador to the u.s. to join us -- joining us to talk about president biden's upcoming nato visit in europe and news that the u.s. is providing deadly cluster bombs to ukraine to use against russian forces, next. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ griff: ukrainian president zelenskyy visiting snake island today, this as the country marks 500 days since the beginning of russia's full-scale advantages. according to the u.n. refugee agency, around 8 million ukrainians have been forced to flee the country, another 6 million have had to leave their homes since february of last year. for more on this, joining us live in studio, ukrainian ambassador oksana markarova. madam ambassador, thank you for being here. 500 days, your reflections. >> 500 very difficult days, you know? we have seen all types of atrocities. we have seen so many casualties. we have seen 115,000 buildings
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and museums being destroyed. so much pain. and yet 500 days of resilience, 500 days of love to our country, love to freedom, love to democracy and our willingness to fight for it. and 500 days of us saying thank you to all of our partners and especially to the united states, to the people of this great country for standing with us. we have to win together. so difficult 500 days behind us, but we till did not win, so we have to stay the course, as military people say, and we have to prove that democracy can defend itself. griff: secretary antony blinken putting out a statement saying the u.s. will stay with ukraine as long as it takes. you got an announcement yesterday, cluster munitions will now come to ukraine. that's a 180 shift because they were not supporting that. your reaction. >> well, this is, you know, we're so grateful to president biden, to everyone in congress
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who advocated for it. as you know, we were asking for this type of munitions for a long time. and we will use them in a very responsible way, you know? we are fighting on our country. we're liberating our own villages and towns. we take care about a our people, and our military has already shown they are capable of liberating our towns without actually huge damage or destruction contrary to russians who are simply occupying, destroying, raping, killing, everything else. i know it's a hard decision, and i know it's difficult weapons, but we do need them, and we are very grateful. griff: i know you're not a military leader, but do you believe that the munitions will help on the battlefield in the counteroffensive when you have lack of air support? because you till don't have that. >> absolutely -- you still don't have that. >> absolutely. i don't need to be a military expert pert to know it, and our commanders to president
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zelenskyy, commanders on the battlefield, they all have asked for this munition. our great defenders are more brave, but there are still so many more of them. so we need still air defense, we need flight support, we need jets, you know? everything. but we also need these cluster munitions, and it's great news. griff: you mentioned ukrainian brave fighters. i want to show that there's -- we have a picture and, i believe, video of five azoff fight ors. i was in ukraine during the time when mariupol was under siege, and now president zelenskyy is going to personally bring the five azoff fighters back with. your thoughts on that. >> that news just everywhere in ukraine, that our president after such very difficult tour, he went to a number of countries, conducted a lot of negotiations, but are from turkey he's not only coming back with good news and good signal, but he's coming back with five
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of our bravest. and this is a great joy, but it's also a big sign that ukraine never leaves anyone behind. and we will continue fighting, we will continue defending our land. and i hope, you know, that president zelenskyy's peace formula, when it's fully implemented, it also means we will get our people back. griff: let's talk about peace. there's a big meeting of nato. do you expect to receive a commitment for nato membership at the meeting this week? >> well, nato is, as we say in our hearts and our constitution, the majority of ukrainians see ukraine in the future in european bruin onand in nato. union and in nato. we are defending not only our freedom, but the freedom of all countries who share the same values. so it's only natural for us to want to be members of nato. we're working very act actively with all friends and allies, and
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we hope this open door policy which has been since 2008 will not be just about open door, but about also invitation. griff: have you been given any indication, any signal that you will get a commitment for nato membership? >> well, we are working with all the friends and allies. as you know, i am not our ambassador to nato, to the united statesful maybe we hope that all of our friends here will support us. griff: let me can ask you in your opinion, one of our colleagues at fox, marc thiessen, wrote a great piece in "the washington post" saying essentially only nato membership can guarantee peace ultimately for ukraine. do you believe that ukraine can only achieve ultimately peace through nato membership? >> i personally believe in it wholeheartedly. even before i became an ambassador, you know? it's, we are talking about just and lasting peace. so, yes, we have to win now, but then we have to rebuild the country. and rebuilding the country can will require not only all of our
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partners together, private companies in large numbers in order for us to leapfrog and feed the ukraine of the future. that can only happen if the security is addressed. and nato is a alliance or family, if i may say, of one countries with the -- of countries with the same values, countries who believe in democracy, who believe that democracy has to defend itself. and ukraine also has a lot to add to nato. so e y, in the future this is the on -- yes, in the future this is the only viable option. for all of us to return where we can focus on how to increase prosperity for our countries, how to develop in the areas like food security, energy security which are disrupt by this russia's unprovoked, brutal war. griff: can i just ask you, ambassador, there are reports that the u.s. was having back door talks with russia to try to
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negotiate some sort of ceasefire. the national security adviser, jake sullivan, shot that down yesterday, said absolutely not the case. your reaction. >> well, i'm very glad and, of course, we knew that officially u.s. had nothing to do with it. i'm very surprised that anyone on the expert level would even talk of these war criminals. they have to stop the war and leave the country, and then we can discuss something with them about reparations and everything else. right now we have to win this war together. it's about principles. griff: ambassador oksana markarova, thank you very much, madam ambassador. >> thank you. aishah: the brand new jobs numbers are out, and they are positive. but why isn't main street feeling any better about the economy? we're going to ask jonathan hoenig next. ♪ ♪ heritage is ingrained in our skin. and even when we metamorphosize into our new evolved form, we carry that spirit with us.
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♪ ♪ aishah: the u.s. labor market showing signs of cooling with the june jobs report adding
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209,000 jobs, marking the lowest monthly gain since december of 2020. meanwhile, the unemployment rate is sitting at 3.6%. so for a closer look at what all these numbers mean for you at home, let's go live to jonathan hoenig. he is a fox fox business contributor and a founding member of capitalist pig hedge fund. jonathan, always, always so good to have you here. okay. so help everybody at home understand. 209,000 jobs, lower than expected. the president says biden economics is working. [laughter] is it? >> what's interesting is most americans actually don't agree with him, almost half think that we're in a recession. as you said, look, the jobs report was strong but nowhere near as strong as had been expected, 230,000 jobs create, only about 209,000 were actually created, 230 # expected. and this is the smallest growth in jobs since december of 2020. in fact, job growth has slowed every month this year. the biggest industry in which jobs were created in the last
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month, in the last period was government. so there's a lot of harbingers of bad job growth to come despite the fact this was a strong number. you've got employers cutting temporary work, cutting hours. historically, this tends to mean we've got slow growth ahead. aishah: i'm going to play a sound bite from the president, because this is kind of what they're doing out on the campaign trail, they're going to keep talking about this even though we're not feeling it back here at home. >> since i've been in office, we've been carrying out my economic vision. today's jobs shows that -- jobs report, i think, shows that bidenomics is working. we added 200,000 jobs, 209,000 last month, and all told we've created over 13 million, i think t it's 13,300,000. ms. -- [applause] in two and a half years. that's more than any president ever created in a 4-year term.
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aishah: okay, again, the numbers look good on paper. but at the end of the day, you've got less than a third, less than a third of americans at home feel financially secure. that's awful. >> yeah. i mean, interestingly, aishah, we're with working more but actually earning less. earning's up only about 4.4% in this last period, so they're barely keeping up with inflation. you've also got americans' hours being cut, so on average, most americans have lost about a 5.6% in weekly earnings since biden came to office. and when you add inflation9 into the mix, we're talking about a yearly loss in income of about $5,600 per american family. and this is why despite biden's crowing about bidenomics and all the success he's had, 44% of americans now think that we are already in a recession or headed within the next couple of weeks. aishah: a lot of economists were stunned by this jobs report and what it said about black
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unemployment, up for a second month in a row. now we're up to 6%, i believe this is double what white unemployment looks like. democrats tout they've got black voters. isn't this something the president should be talking about and and trying to address? >> well, sure, anyone who's lost a job or having trouble with a job should be of concern to the president. you're absolutely right. look, # 90% of those recently unemployed happen to be african-americans. so this is certainly a worrisome sign. and what's even more worrisome is as the president is out there crowing about all these successes with job creation, what we have is the bls, the bureau of labor statistics, constantly revising previous months' estimates down. april and may we had been up months for job creation were recently revised down by about 110,000 jobs. in fact, aishah, every month of 2023 has seen the bls come back and revise job growth downward after the president has already taken that victory lap. behind the surface there's some worrisome signs despite all the
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crowing from the white house. aishah: and really, really quickly, i just have 10 seconds left, jonathan, what can we expect next? jay powell going to a raise rates again? >> almost univity -- inevitably by a quarter percent. despite the inflation reduction act, you've still got it running nearly double what the central reserve would like to see. aishah: people cannot keep living like this, it's awful. jonathan hoenig, thanks. have a good weekend. griff: well, u.s. official confirming they have been in talks with russia about a possible prisoner swap for "wall street journal" reporter evan gershkovich who has been in a russian prison for more than 100 days now on allegations of espionage. senior correspondent steve harrigan is tracking this story. hey, steve. [no audio] griff: i think we might have a problem there with steve's mic. we will get that fixed and bring
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to you an important story, to bring evan home. aishah: meantime, the dutch government falling into collapse after failing to reach a deal on restricting immigration. the netherlands' prime minister, mark rudd, one of europe's longest serving leaders, will resign from his post prompting new elections in the fall. kitty logan is live with that. hi, kitty. [no audio] aishah: okay, i think we lost kitty logan, so we'll try to get back to her as well. griff: we're going to work on that. these are the gremlins of cable news. we'll fix that and be back. meanwhile, the battle of the billionaires, did you see this? meta's marker berg launches the social media app threads as a direct competitor to elon musk's twitter. oh, boy, a tech social media fight.
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aishah: okay. so the dutch government, as i mentioned before, falling into collapse after failing to reach a deal on restricting immigration. the netherlands' prime minister, one of europe's longest serving leaders, is going to resign from his post, and that's going to prompt new elections in the fall. kitty logan live for us with
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this. kitty? >> reporter: hi, aishah. yes, the dutch prime minister has now visited the dutch king in the hague to offer his resignation. now, this comes as a four-party coalition that he led has significant differences particularly amongst the junior coalition partners about toughening up on migration policy. he leads the dutch conservative party, that's the people's party for freedom and democracy, and he's been in power since 2010. his government will remain in power for now as a caretaker add administration until a new coalition is formed. now, the issue of migration is a very divisive one in the ether -- netherlands and, of course, all across europe. the government was under pressure to reduce the flow of migrants. coalition partners couldn't agree on that policy, and it was then the anti-immigration party for freedom who ultimately brought down the government. now, this political crisis means that the netherlands is expected
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to hold a general election later this year, and that issue of migration is, of course, likely to dominate the campaign. opposition parties on the left also want to address the issue of climate change and housing, but it's interesting to note that mark rudd, despite this crisis, is known to be a political survivor, and he says he has not ruled9 out carrying on as leader of his party. but, of course, it's really important to note, aishah, that migration is controversial across europe. here in the u.k. we have record numbers of migrants arriving illegal wily in the country yesterday, on friday, up to 700 people came here across the english channel. back to you. aishah: kit logan, thank you so much for that -- kitty logan, thank you so much for that report. griff: elon musk now suing to i sue meta over its new social media app, threads. it's attracted millions of users since its launch on thursday after zucker bigger pitched
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it -- zuckerberg pushed it as a fendly ref final for discourse. joining us is bold tv ceo and business reporter david grasso. david, thank you for joining us. i have not yet joined threads, but apparently a lot of other people are. we can show our viewers zuckerberg bragging saying that 70 million sign-ups on threads as of this morning, way beyond our expectations. this is a thing. are you on it? and what do we need to know? >> so i was on it the morning after it came out. it actually came out a little early, on wednesday night, a little bit ahead of schedule. basically why threads is the fastest growing app of all time is because facebook, which is instagram's parent and now threads' parent or we know it as meta as well, eliminated all the a friction for signing up for a social media service. so already there are more than 70 million users on the twitter clone, and they're trying to
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create a twitter that is less focused on news and politics and kind of recaptures what twitter was about 10 years ago before it became with such a nasty place to be. gary give will it be, david, as we have heard now, a twitter killer? >> well, that's a really interesting point. you know, elon musk, i'm a biggest loan fan, but i've always been very confused on his new focus of buying a social media platform. this is a man who was focused on tackling some of the most pressing problems like electrification of our cars, going to mars, and suddenly he paid $44 billion for a social media platform that was already in decline. and since then there have been a lot of chaotic managerial decisions that have led to a great opening for mark zuckerberg to go ahead and take his market share. and i believe that's what we're witnessing now. now, all that said, i put a poll on my linkedin, and my colleagues, at least the 100 people who voted, said they don't believe threads will be a twitter killer.
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but instagram has 2.3 billion users, and it takes a few clicks to sign up for this service. so talk about easy to sign up for, it won't be too long before there are as many people on threads as there currently are on twitter. griff: but interestingly, i've been reading a little about it, you can't sign up for it in the european union. europe won't let it. and we've got a full screen we can show you for what it tracks, what meta tracks, and i believe this is part of why it's banned there. you can see here, look at all this, health and fitness, financial info, contact info, user content, user data, purchases, location, on and on and on. so is it going to, perhaps, limit its success if they can't get it in the e.u.? >> well, right now the e.u. is cracking down on all sorts of big tech companies including google, amazon, etc. and the europeans are way ahead on privacy laws. as we saw recently in news, you know, government is now starting to buy private data.
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so i think here in the united states we definitely need some legislation around privacy, and meta is no exception. over in canada meta and google are now blocking canadian news because there's a law that just passed in canada like the one in australia where they have to pay news providers like fox news for having news on their platform. so this is a developing situation from a regulatory regime, and we have to watch it closely. g gary -- griff: we've got to leave it there, david grasso. very she'sing -- interesting or, we'll see where it goes. summer sizzle. we'll get the latest forecast on millions of americans baking in the summer heat. that's ahead. ♪ ♪ i won't let me moderate to severe plaque psoriasis symptoms define me... emerge as you. with tremfya®, most people saw 90% clearer skin at 4 months... ...and the majority stayed clearer, at 5 years.
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aishah: the northeast and the plains bracing for severe weather this weekend with, eberts warning of the possibility for heavy rain and damaging winds. parts of oklahoma, nebraska and kansas were already pounded by storms this week, soaking those communities with rainfall totals ranging upwards of 5 inches. a chance for severe storms continues into tomorrow for a large portion of the country. griff? griff: meanwhile, steamy summer
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temperatures sweeping across the southeast this weekend. experts are warning of dangerous heat and humidity levels returning to the region. some places seeing the highest levels of humidity ever recorded. heat advisories were issued for parts of where heat indexes could reach 112. it's hot out there. aishah: yeah, it is. griff: hydrate. drink water. i went for a run this morning at 6 a.m., way too hot. aishah: okay. i won't be going for a run are. hey, just a reminder that our good with friend and colleague evan gershkovich is still in russia, in a russian prison. i believe it's been 100 days now, 10 # today -- 101 today, in a russian prison. and we still have prayers out for his family and can and, of course, paul whelan's family as well, that both of these american heroes come home as quickly as possible. griff, there were talks at the white house --
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griff: yeah, yesterday. aishah: jake sullivan talking about how there may be talks happening about a possible prisoner swap with. griff: correct. jake sullivan, national security adviser at the white house, led the press briefing about how we are in talks to find ways to wring him back concern bring him back. he cautioned it and said we don't know exactly how it's going to look and didn't want to offer a lot of hope because this isn't a concrete deal, but at least talks are going because it is so important that evan gershkovich come home, wrong any imprisonedded now for 101 days. we hope that he will, indeed, get home and, obviously, any news we get on that from jake or anyone else, we will certainly bring that to fox news as soon as we get it. great to be with you, by the way, here. aishah: you as well. have a great weekend. "fox news live" continues now with eric and arthel.do ♪ug ♪ cusyour car insurance... so you only pay for what you need. that's my boy.
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