we all want this war to end on just terms. terms that will hold the basic principles of the united nations charter that we all signed up to. sovereignty, territorial integrity. these are two pillars of peaceful relations among nations. one country cannot be allowed to seize its neighbors territory by force. russia could end this war tomorrow by withdrawing forces from ukraine. recognize international borders and ceasing inhuman attacks on russia -- on ukraine against -- by it's military. russia has shown no interest in a diplomatic outcome. putin still wrongly believes he can outlast ukraine. he can't believe it's their land, their country and their future and even after all this time putin still doubts our

staying power. he is still making a bad bet that the conviction and the unity among united states and our allies and partners will break down. he still doesn't understand that our commitment, our values, our freedom is something he can never, never, ever ever walk away from. it's who we are. [applause] i mean it, it's who we are. it's who we are. throughout this horrific war, the people with lithuania and the brethren, champions of ukraine's right of a future to its own choosing, one that is free because you live so long with freedom denied. many of you who are older know better than anyone how precious the right to determine your own future is. precious to people everywhere, everywhere. not just in ukraine, belarus, muldova, georgia, and all the places around the world people

continue to fight to make their voices heard. so my message, my message to all of you tonight is keep it up, keep it going, keep reminding the world of hope that lithuania embodies and that's what you embody, hope in this country. [applause] no, i really mean it. i'm not joking. i mean this sincerely. we must never forget how much this matters and never, never give up on a better tomorrow. the defense of freedom is not the work of a day or a year. it's the calling of our lifetime, of all time, the struggle ahead. our unity will not falter, i promise you. [applause] folks -- as i look around the world today at a moment of war and peril, a moment of competition and uncertainty, i also see a moment of unprecedented opportunity,

unprecedented opportunity. opportunity to make real strides for the world of greater peace and greater prosperity, liberty and dignity. equal justice under the law. human rights and fundamental freedoms, the blessing and birthright of all of humanity. that -- that is the world the united states is world toward and it's one we will only reach if we do it together. and i mean together. we need to take the same spirit of unity, common purpose, determination, that we have demonstrated in our response to russian aggression in ukraine and bring more partners along as we continue to build a world we want to live in and a world we want for our children. my friends, the most fundamental level we face a choice. it's not hyperbole, we face a choice. a choice between a world defined by coercion and exploitation where might makes right or a world where we recognize that

our own success is bound to the success of others. when others do better we do better as well. where we understand that the challenges we face today from the threat of climate change, to building the global economy where no one gets left behind, are too great for any one nation to solve on their own, and that to achieve our goals and meet the challenges of this age we have to work together and i mean this sincerely, the world's changing. we have a chance to change the dynamic. that's why i've been so focused rebuilding and revitalizing the alliances the cornerstone of american leadership in the world. these past years brought the trans atlantic partnership to new heights, reaffirming the importance of the relationship between europe and the united states as an anchor to global stability. the idea that the united states could prosper without a secure europe is not reasonable.

we have also elevated -- it really isn't, not a joke. [applause] i sometimes -- well -- we also the deep alliance with japan, republic of korea, australia, philippines, provide critical security and deterrents in that region of the world. quad partnership, australia, india, japan, united states, we are bringing major democracies of the region together to cooperate, keeping the indo-pacific free and open, prosperous and secure. we have demonstrated during this nato summit with indo-pacific partners joining us for the second year in a row. we are working to deepen connections between the atlantic and pacific democracies so they can better work together toward the shared values we all seek. strong alliances, versatile partnerships, common purpose, collective action, to meet our

shared challenges. the world has shrunk. that's how we build a future, we share and know we share challenges and work together. we have to step up together. building the broadest and deepest coalition to strengthen and defend the basic rules of the road. to preserve all the extraordinary benefits that stem from the international system grounded in the rule of law. we have to come together to protect rights and freedoms, to underwrite the flow of ideas in commerce, and which have enabled decades of global growth. yes, territorial integrity and sovereignty. but also principles like freedom of navigation and overflight. keeping our shared seas and skies open so every nation has equal access to our global common space and as we continue to explore this age of new possibilities, an age by rapid

advances in innovation, we have to stand together, ensure that the common spaces of our future reflect our highest aspirations for ourself and others. as my dad would say, everybody is treated with dignity so artificial intelligence, engineering, biology and other engineering emerging technologies, are not made into weapons of oppression but rather uses tools of opportunity. working with our allies and partners to build a supply chain more resilient, secure, so we do not face a situation like we had during the pandemic we could not get critical goods we needed for our daily lives. you know, we all must summon the common will to actually address the threat of accelerating climate change. it's real, it's serious, we don't have a lot of time. it is the -- the single greatest

threat to humanity and only by working together that we'll prevent the worst consequences of climate change from ravaging our future and that of our children and grandchildren. also recognize our shared responsibility to help unlock the enormous potential that exists in low and middle income companies around the world. not out of charity, because it's in our own self-interest. we all benefit when we are partners stand together working toward shared goals. we all benefit when people are healthy and more prosperous, and it's not hyperbole. we need to update our toolset, better address the needs of today in the interconnected world. where pandemics, conflicts, spill over borders and make it harder to address the challenges of poverty and instability that

hold so many people back. that's why the united states is leading an effort to transform the multi-lateral development banks like the world bank, help them better address the global challenges while enhancing the core mission of reducing poverty and boost shared prosperity. we are all working together with our partners in the g7 to address the enormous needs for high standard infrastructure around the world, especially in low and middle income countries in africa, being latin america, southeast asia. it's a statement about the world we want to build together. ladies and gentlemen, we stand at an inflection point, inflection point in history where the choices we make now are going to shape the direction of our world for decades to come. the world has changed. will we turn back naked unchecked aggression today to deter other world would be

aggressors tomorrow? will we staunch the climate crisis before it's too late. will we harness new technologies to advance freedom or will we diminish it. will we advance opportunity and more places are allowing instability and quality to persist. how we answer these essential questions is literally going to determine the kind of future our children and grandchildren have and again, it's not an exaggeration, it's going to take all of us. with ambition and confidence in ourselves and one another, working for common cause we can answer these questions. we can ensure the vision we share and freedom we cherish are not just empty words. in the troubled time, but a road map, i mean this literally, a road map, a plan of urgent action toward a future we can

reach, and reach if we work together. folks, the road that lies before us is hard. challenge some of the best of ourselves, to hold faith in one another and never give up, never lose hope, never. every day we have to make the choice, every day we must summon the strength to stand for what is right, to stand for what is right, to stand for freedom, to stand together. that, my friends, is the lesson we learn from history and the history and history of lithuania's story. we see demonstrated each day and will determine, will determine what ukraine looks like and it's now, it's now we are going to work, how we rewrite the future of peace and hope, justice and light, liberty, possibility for everyone, everyone everywhere. folks, some have heard me say to

my country many times. never ever in my entire career been more optimistic about the prospects of the future, never, never. let me just say thank you for taking the time to be here to listen. god bless you all and may god protect the freedoms -- the protectors of freedom here, ukraine, every nation of the world, everywhere. god protect our troops. thank you, thank you, thank you. [applause] >> john: president biden wrapping up a speech at vilnius university, capital of lithuania, 20 years and seven months after president george w. bush gave a speech in the town square, the day after lithuania was invited to join nato and now, sandra, the president talking about the potential joining of ukraine into nato and talking about the ukraine war saying that putin thought that nato would break, he was wrong,

and the united states and our nato allies will stand with ukraine until this whole thing is over. no waivering on that front. >> sandra: pretty energized president biden there taking to the stage, about a 20-minute speech, started a few minutes late, saying the world needs to stand together to tackle climate change, talking about nato being stronger, more energized and saying we need to make the choice about what is right and must stand for that, said the president a few moments ago, john. >> john: we are at an inflection point in history, and the road ahead is going to be a difficult one, but if the nations stay together, the nations of the world we can make it work. bring in marc thiessen, i was remarking that it was a little more than 20 years ago president bush stood in the town square in vilnius, march of 2004 they

joined the alliance, i was there with president bush and i think you were, too, and eyes are turning to ukraine and whether or not ukraine will join the alliance as well. do you think nato and the president struck a balance on that front? >> i don't, i think it was a big mistake. i appreciate as a supporter of ukraine, i appreciated the resolve, but i did not hear to bring the war to a successful conclusion. he talked more about climate change than how we help ukraine win the war, end the war and have a sustainable peace, something we should be doing. so right now he's giving ukraine enough weapons not to lose, but he's not giving them the weapons to win, to win the counteroffensive you have to have tanks, you have to have long range artillery and air power, all the things the united states is refusing to give the ukrainians. the british are giving them, starting to give them long range missiles, the french are, but you know, we are letting them train on f-16s. when is the last time a modern

country has fought a ground offensive without air power. how are they supposed to take land when they don't have fighter jets to take out the russian positions on the ground. he's making them fight with one hand tied behind their back and it's unfortunate. >> sandra: what ultimately do you think the message is he is sending the world on this stage right now? >> i mean, it was the entire -- i was with president bush in 2008 at the nato summit when he pushed the allies to bring and invite ukraine to join the nato alliance and they refused. and this was the reverse, almost all the nato allies wanted to issue an invitation to ukraine to join the alliance once the fighting has ended, and it was president biden and germany who refused. that's a huge mistake. nobody wants to bring ukraine into nato while the current war is going on, that would be a declaration of war on russia but you cannot have peace in ukraine unless it's guaranteed by nato membership. putin, as he said in the speech,

is never going to accept ukraine is an independent country. let's say we get to a ceasefire he's pushed back, he's going to pause, regroup, reconstitute forces and go again like he did after the 2014 invasion. the only way we have a lasting peace we don't have to do it 5, 6, 7 years from now and spend billions to help the ukrainians, make it impossible for putin to achieve his goals. putin has never attacked a nato country. the two countries left out of the nato alliance in 2008 that president bush wanted to bring in, georgia and ukraine, the only two countries putin has attacked. he will not go to war with nato. so the only way you have a peace, a vision for ending this war and ending it with a lasting peace in europe where it does not happen again, if you bring it to the point the ukrainians have taken back enough territory to claim victory and then secure it with nato security guarantees. >> john: earlier today before

the speech, president biden indicated that ukrainian membership in nato was a matter of when, not if. listen to what he said. >> i hope we finally have put to bed the notion about whether or not ukraine is welcome and nato is going to happen, moving in the right direction. >> john: he said it's going to happen but nato said ukraine's future is in nato, we will be in position to extend an invitation to ukraine to join the alliance when allies agree and conditions are met. conditions would be the end of the war because as you pointed out, ukraine can't join nato while it's at war with russia, that would involve all of nato. but does that just give putin a reason to keep this war going as long as he possibly can? >> he doesn't need a reason to keep the war going. nothing we say or do is going to affect his decision-making one way or another, whether it will -- the only way to stop hup

is make it impossible to achieve his goals and bring ukraine into the nato alliance. it doesn't have to be where the war is over, it has to be when the fighting is over. if you think about south korea where we have the equivalent of an article 5 guarantee, the korean war never ended, it was an armistice, and you have drawn a line for putin saying you can't go past this line again and he won't. >> sandra: interesting moment when you look at how the president has been handling the press over all the questions, a moment the reporter asked the president a nato question. this was to zelenskyy. watch biden's reaction. >> how soon after the war would you like to join nato? >> an hour and 20 minutes. you guys really insightful

questions. >> sandra: your reaction to that, mark. >> yeah, old yeller, first takes it out on the aides and now the press. he has contempt for the media, that's fine. why doesn't he do an interview with fox and say it to your faces. >> sandra: the invitation is out there. >> john: great to see you. we'll take the president any time, no doubt about that. thanks. >> take care. >> are you protecting the bidens? >> absolutely not. the fbi -- has no interest. our focus is not on disinformation broadly speaking. can i answer the question? >> you think priests should be informants inside the church, director? >> we do not operate human sources so infiltrate -- sounds like you were trying to do it in richmond, virginia. >> sandra: fbi director christopher wray in the hot seat

for house. republican led house judiciary committee not holding back, pressing him on the hunter biden probe and other issues, many americans are questioning the bureau's legitimacy. what are we hearing, aishah. >> from where i'm sitting inside the hearing room to the left of director wray, i can see his face and i can tell that he's feeling the pressure, that he's getting frustrated at times by the line of questioning, but he is trying very hard to keep up with republicans who have brought plenty of receipts. here is one of the bigger moments today when representative matt gaetz grilled him on hunter biden and the new infamous text to a chinese associate. watch this. >> i am sitting here waiting for the call with my father. sounds like a shakedown, doesn't it, director? >> i'm not going to comment on that. >> you seem deeply uncurious about it, don't you? almost suspiciously uncurious.

are you protecting the bidens? >> absolutely not. >> democrats say the gop is using this hearing and the durham hearing to protect former president trump. >> maga republicans will do anything to protect donald trump, their saviour, no matter how unfounded or dangerous it may be to do so. welcome to the legislative arm of the trump re-election campaign. >> sandra, republicans tell me there is really nothing that wray can say that's going to make them trust the fbi. chairman jim jordan told me this morning that he would love for wray to say the fbi is going to stop censoring free speech, stop attacking parents a the school board meetings, stop retaliating against whistleblowers and stop surveiling americans, and that's where the fight is headed towards when it comes what congress is going to do, they

are looking at the fbi surveillance authorities and democrats and republicans are both trying to limit those authorities or at least reform them. that is their message to director wray today. >> sandra: aishah, thank you. >> john: the biden administration appealing a judge's ruling that limits their contact with social media companies. meanwhile, an organization run by democratic candidate robert f. kennedy, jr., is suing several media outlets over censorship. chris christie and how censorship could play a role in the 2024 election, but kelly o'grady is live in los angeles. what is going on with the biden administration appeal of the judge's ruling? >> well, so john, unsurprisingly, the judge denied the biden administration request to overturn his own orders, so the case is now going to go to a higher court for an appeal. the white house is arguing, though, that the order could cause grave harm to american citizens if they cannot continue to engage with these social

platforms. and you mentioned rfk, jr., his organization called the children's health defense. suing the bbc, the "washington post," reuters, and the associated press, we reached out to those news organizations, only heard back from the bbc which declined to comment on the suit. all are members of the trusted news initiative, a group founded in 2019 to fight fake news, and the lawsuit claims the media organizations censored four key topics they deemed misinformation, whether covid originated in the wuhan lab, the covid vaccines don't prevent infection, and anything to do with the hunter biden laptop, the suit argues the media actions go beyond suppression and reach collusion. they said this. members of the tni have agreed to work together and have in fact worked together to exclude

from the world's dominant internet platforms rival news publishers who competes with tni members. so the thing, at the heart the suit accuses the publications of violating the sherman antitrust act and the case will likely come down to two things. first, can the plaintiff prove there was economic motivation to stifle competition in the case and second, whether the collusion impacted the public welfare by suppressing diverse voices. so john, we are going to see how it plays out. but actually next week rfk, jr. will testify about covid before the committee of the weaponization of the federal government. >> john: kelly, thank you. >> sandra: more on all of this with chris christie, 2024 republican candidate. great to see you. rfk, jr. is filing this lawsuit and spotlighting what he says is media collusion to censor

misinformation, violation of our first amendment rights. do you see it that way, is the media colluding on misinformation? >> look, i think that this is a really complicated issue. i think rfk, jr., frankly is making it easier than it is. when we are getting disinformation that's coming from outside of the country, that's one thing. that's something that i think we need to be involved in. inside the country that's free speech. and so you know, the difference i think is stark. but for law enforcement, they want to be stopping this stuff. these are the things the russians were doing during the 2016 election i don't think any of us were in favor of, trying to put out misinformation trying to move an election one way or the other. inside the country, though, americans have a right to say what they want to say, and if they do something that subjects them to some civil legal action we have courts that deal with that. i don't think we necessarily need the media making those kinds of decisions, certainly not the social media companies making the decisions. if they do, by the way, we

should get rid of the protections they have for them under federal law and they should be subject to civil suits, right now they are prevented from doing so. so by federal law. >> john: when you look governor at this in the overall, you had the fbi working with social media companies to sort of plant the seeds as many people have charged to do things like strip out information that is actually true, things like the hunter biden laptop, you have the administration that has a certain perspective on things, saw the president say during the debate the hunter biden laptop was russian disinformation as declared by 51 members of the intelligence committee, former members, it seems as though the government in many ways is participating in this, and then the left wing media for the most part is just going along with whatever the biden administration says. >> we know the left wing media

will go along with the biden administration. and having done this and been a prosecutor for seven years, there are lines prosecutors need to not good over and certainly those 55 folks who signed that document on the hunter biden laptop were not only ill-intentioned, they were wrong. and so you know, we have to look at these things, we have to learn from these past mistakes and that's why frankly i think, you know, we need a president who has had some experience in all of this to be able to govern the country, pick an attorney general who will not permit fear, favor or partisanship to come into any of this stuff, and demand that's what you get from an attorney general and someone who has done this work like i have, knows how to pick these people and make sure the rules are enforced. >> sandra: interesting stuff. and there is a fentanyl crisis in the country, you know, we have a father next hour who lost his daughter to a fentanyl

overdose. homeland security subcommittee on the border is taking a deep dive what is happening in the deadly flow of the drug over the border. cbp estimated 1.1 billion potential doses of fentanyl in 2022, up 200% compared to 2019 and 2020 totals combined. according to the dea, two-thirds drug overdoses from fentanyl poisoning. what the heck are we doing about this? >> joe biden has made it worse as the statistics show. we have an open border down there, and the chinese are participating fully in sending precursor chemicals to fentanyl to the drug cartels in mexico, so they are attacking the united states. that's why i say if i'm elected president, we are going to send the national guard to the border immediately on the fentanyl task, to interdict these folks.

>> sandra: it's at the border, how do you stop it from even getting there? >> that's got to be an issue we have to deal with the chinese on and much tougher on that, and we weren't. president trump promised he would be tough with the chinese on fentanyl, he failed doing so. president biden has failed doing so, and by the way, it doesn't help that we should have had a border wall there, and president trump only built 47 new miles of that wall in his four years. those are failures, and mexico didn't pay a nickel towards building even what was built. so, we have failed and republican and democratic administration's on this, and we have to get better at it. we need a law enforcement president who will enforce the law, use the national guard and use our law enforcement folks to get this job done. >> john: this is a personal issue for you, governor. i remember a tender moment in november of 2015, you were at a town hall and revealed a good friend of yours died alone from a synthetic opioid overdose, percocet, i think it was, in a west orange motel.

because of your personal experience with this, how big a priority would this have should you become president? >> this would be a top five priority for me along with fighting inflation, the immigration issue, making sure that our educational system gets much, much better, supporting law enforcement throughout this country and then the fentanyl crisis. look, you know, you are right, john. a great friend of mine went to law school with, accomplished guy who died of an overdose of percocet. he was addicted for ten years, went in and out of getting treatment, never really got it done right. what we need to do here, john, is we need to make treatment much more available to treatment across this country. people are going to get addicted to drugs, it happens. it's a disease. and we can treat that disease and save lives. sandra was right, we lost 110,000 americans. it is the biggest killer of men 18 to 34 now in the country is overdose from opioids and synthetic opioids. this is a huge crisis, and i

want to deal with it on both ends. tough on law enforcement getting in, but also providing treatment and providing second chances. i'm pro life, every life is precious at every stage of life and we need to give people a second chance to save their lives, not lose it across the country. >> sandra: and another one of your top priorities inflation, i put chris christie economy to a google search i don't see a lot out there. you are not talking a lot about the plans for the economy, and i'll ask you right here, this is the latest cpi report, americans are seeing the largest price hikes this. is still happening. rent prices are sky high, the price to eat out, maintaining your car, car insurance prices because those interest rates are going up to tackle inflation. these prices are sky high. people are dealing with this every day. two-thirds of americans are living paycheck to paycheck. what are you promising them on the economy. >> joe biden said this is

bidenomics in action. and i agree with him. inflation is up 17% since joe biden is president and you feel it everywhere. the biggest cause of it is government spending. we spent much too much money and look, we need to stop it. we were talking about this off air. when i became governor we had $11 billion deficit on the $29 billion budget and i refused to raise taxes. we cut 836 individual programs and balanced the budget. when you cut spending it makes people angry. when they get happy, at that time we had unemployment over 10%. by the time at the end of my first term we cut it in half, we stopped crazy government spending, allowed interest rates to blas up, how many jobs in new jersey, we should do the same thing across the country. inflation rates from brought inflation under control, not anything joe biden has done but by the way, that's hurting americans every day, if he want this to buy a car, borrowing money for their children's

education, want to buy a new home or first home and we have to get the interest rates down the way to do it is slow down government spending. i've done it as a governor, i can do it as a president. >> john: governor, i'm sure you saw some of the chris wray hearing across the street from me on capitol hill, he was an attorney for you during the bridgegate scandal, and i believe you recommended him to president trump to be fbi director. do you believe there were forms that wray insist he has implemented will fix the problems. >> i think they are starting to fix the problems as the director talked about today. look, i've known chris a long time, we worked together in the bush justice department, post-9/11 period and yeah, i did recommend him to president trump and proud i did. the things they were talking about today and the director made this point over and over again are all things from when jim comey, eric holder, and

loretta lynch were in charge of the justice department before he got put in charge. he fired the entire comey leadership team out of the fbi, they are all gone, and he put these reforms in place which are now showing extraordinary results. is it all fixed, of course it's not all fixed. jim comey, eric holder and loretta lynch drastically harmed the department of justice and fbi. and chris wray is spending years fixing that. of course there will always be disagreements between congress and the executive branch, and he has obligations to not give everything they want to give. but i will tell you something. when you saw today, i think was an animated and combative fbi director who is defending the men and women who work for him every day and do a great job and protect us from domestic terrorism, from international terrorism, and from those drug cartels and are helping state and local law enforcement every day with their things. i think chris wray has done a

good job. and a lot of stuff you see is theater and people trying to raise money for campaigns. does not mean there are not problems at the fbi, there are, but i believe chris can get them fixed and fixed a lot of them already. >> sandra: you'll be on the debate stage in august, then? >> you bet. >> sandra: thanks for stopping here today. >> john: thanks for joining us. >> scary watching it happen, i didn't know how much higher it was going to go. >> when it was over, over the bridge, and i told my wife grab the cats we got to get out of here. >> it's all destroyed, going in the garbage, it's going to mold up in a couple days. >> john: recovery efforts in montpelier vermont. more than 100 rescues were made, rain water coming so fast the nearby dam nearly overflowed. residents, and also from the vermont kindness project.

i want to put the graph up how close montpelier came from catastrophe. the wrightsville dam, almost rose to a level it was just a foot below dumping into the spillway, which would have taken a lot of water through the town. how much concern, kimberly, was there there in the capital for this dam overflowing and potentially catastrophically coming apart? >> thanks so much for having me and us and we just want to say before we say what we are seeing, we want to say a shout out to thank governor, all the public officials who are really taking this seriously and the white water rescue teams who had to help evacuate people out of montpelier downtown. and there was a huge concern about this dam breaking yesterday because we had already had all of this flooding and luckily the dam situation seems

to be at abay and the waters are now receding and i just came back from downtown and it's all mud, basically. >> john: wow, yeah, chandra, you avoided a catastrophe but what does your pretty little town look like today? >> it is really just -- it's a mess, but what is the best thing that we are seeing is a lot of people just coming together to really dig in deep to help one another, to try to, you know, save what we can, and just build on that to go forward. >> john: kimberly, what was it like during all the rain and the flooding. you must have thought you were in some sort of biblical tempest. >> it really was. when they say flash flooding and we are up pretty high on the hill away from montpelier, all of a sudden my basement was

flooded and it was just because of the water coming through the ground and there's a stream out back that's normally like ankle deep and it was probably, i imagine, 10 or 15 feet high with white water out behind my house. we have never seen anything like this. the devastation is -- everything is closed, everybody is evacuated, there's no post office, you know, we don't have trash, the roads are closed, so people are landlocked and i have a friend who needs to get medication and she can't get to a pharmacy because she's stuck in hardwick and there are no roads out. i went into montpelier today, there were shop keepers weeping over the devastation and how are we going to build this again. we just barely kind of recovered from hurricane irene 12 years ago. >> john: we heard from one shop owner earlier today that had so much water in the business and

was not going anywhere, she had to chop a hole in the floor so the water would drain into the basement. kimberly, you are a physician's assistant, created the vermont kindness project, and chandra williams, officer for that, deals with treating and resources of stress that children go through. how do you think it will impact children who have never seen anything like this before. >> this is tough, we are coming on the heels of covid, vermont did an incredible job, it was very traumatic for people and this is going to be devastating to kids and adults and right now the issue is getting food to people and getting medicine to people and we are still in the post shock kind of state we know this is going to happen again, you know, due to climate change,

we know that extreme weather is kinds of becoming a new normal in vermont, and it's our new normal. >> john: a long way to go to recover from this. thank you for joining us and thank you for the good work you do with the vermont kindness project. i'm sure a lot of folks appreciate it. >> thanks for having us. >> sandra: our best to them. meanwhile, a fugitive murder suspect wanted for crimes in three states now remains on the run after escaping from a pennsylvania jail just six days ago. now a woman calling herself an ex-girlfriend says the fugitive was likely planning escape since the day he was arrested. c.b. cotton is in warren, pennsylvania for us. you are learning more about how he escaped? >> good afternoon, sandra. despite annual inspections at the jail, officials say burham found a hole in the roof and escaped through it. >> every time people go up there, they are watched by a

camera remotely by somebody, ok, and the amount of time he got out of that roof was quicker than anybody could respond to get inside the room, ok. so in order to change that we would have to completely reconfigure the jail in order to make that happen. >> when asked why no one ran outside of the jail to stop burham, after all, he was watched on camera, fgs os said they responded as quick as they possibly could under the circumstances. a woman speaks exclusively to fox saying burham continues to underestimate everyone around him. >> i just thought he was the everyday guy who was going to sit there complacently and from the minute they caught him he was probably planning escape. >> elizabeth says he could do the job with little to no sleep, adrenalin junky, can scale homes

and run ten miles in under an hour. never expected he would be the prime suspect in the mother of his child who was shot to death in may. >> he's a smart guy, he loves strategy and he loves to think about what he's got versus what you've got. so i think they thought they were dealing with an idiot. he outsmarted them so many times now and i hate it, i hate he's on the loose. after what he did to kayla. >> sandra, we are going to stay here on scene, hope to learn more and back to you in the studio. >> sandra: keep us posted from there. >> john: jump back across the street, christopher wray hearing, questioned about the durham investigation and the fbi regaining trust with the american public. >> emphasized to our folks we

need to do the right thing in the right way and following the facts wherever they lead no matter who likes it, it then goes on from there, to all kinds of enhanced procedures, safeguards, approvals, double checks, triple checks, record keeping requirement, accountability policies, funding of new functions like an office of internal audit that did not exist before. installation of an entirely new leadership team from my predecessor, and -- and where i can take action, where we can take action to hold people accountable by removing people from the chain of command. >> the lady's time has expired. take a 30-minute break for votes. we will be back, i'm going to start right at 2:15. >> unanimous consent. an without objection entered. miss bush and then mr. bishop. we'll stand in recess approximately 30 minutes.

>> john: all right, so that was quick, and they'll be back in 30 minutes to continue this hearing. sandra, it's been going on since 10:00 this morning. a lot of fireworks, accusations on part of some republican members, matt gaetz, and chris wray says he continues to be a republican, chris christie says he recommended to president trump that he take on christopher wray as the fbi director, so we have an interesting situation here where the republicans are really going after him, republicans are going after a republican, and the democrats are defending a republican. >> sandra: saying earlier christopher wray, we are absolutely not protecting the bidens when asked very specifically from matt gaetz about that. also he went on to defend the fbi's handling of the school board controversy, there's been quite a few fiery moments there, so take a quick break, back

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>> sandra: back to the top story, christopher wray facing tough questions on capitol hill. our next guest has a chance to press him on some critical issues. congressman, welcome to you now. christopher wray just said a few moments ago he called the idea that he is biased against conservatives somewhat insane. what has been your biggest take away, what's the headline from the hearing so far? >> well, the biggest take away is something i've known for a while, there are serious problems at the fbi, and if we give him the benefit of the doubt, he needs to do more. not until late in the hearing i heard him acknowledge there were some serious problems at the fbi, some of the instances

described in the durham report were outrageous, he finally admitted to that, and more of a desire to work with congress. we are not just here to poke and prod, we have an oversight role, the fbi is coming to us as stewards of the taxpayers of america, they want more money, a new building, want more officers. we want to work with the fbi but the fbi has to work with us and some of the questions that were asked about redactions, about turning over documents, about admitting there were some problems that needed fixing, they were not addressed like i wanted them to be. it's my hope we will put pressure on the leadership at the fbi. >> sandra: and when you say continue, that hearing will continue in about 15, 20 minutes from now, they took a quick break for some votes there. meanwhile, christopher wray did refuse to answer questions about whether or not the delaware u.s. attorney is indeed investigating president biden. it was an exchange from a rep from wisconsin who asked did joe biden take payments from or any

other foreign companies as vice president, president or private citizen. wray responded as you know there's an ongoing investigation by the u.s. attorney in delaware, appointed by trump in the last administration that the baltimore field office is working. he was then asked again, he said i'm not going to confirm or speak to whether or not he's under investigation. and the rep said so he's not under investigation? he said i didn't say that either. what did you take away from that exchange. >> you know, if we were in any other time that would have been ok for him to not speak on it. but the fact is they have spoken on other things, they have pursued prosecutions and investigations they had no business pursuing, the american people, the vast majority of them believe there is a two-tiered justice department and we have to get past that. and out of their way to be transparent with members of congress, if they stepped back away from the political prosecutions, no matter what

side of the aisle they are on, an fbi mired in politics and a lot of work to get back in favor with the american people. >> sandra: some fiery moments including this exchange with jim jordan and christopher wray on the fbi targeting catholics. watch this. >> what's the difference between a traditional catholic and a radical traditional catholic? >> i'm not an expert on the catholic orders. >> your fbi wrote a memo talking about radical traditional catholics. >> what i can tell you, you are referring to the richmond product, a single product by a single field office, as soon as i found out about it i was aghast. when we finished our internal review, very soon, we will come back -- >> any idea how many catholics in america. >> briefing on what we found. >> sandra: you were in the room, your reaction to that.

>> at first he was aghast, we all were, but says it's an internal investigation. i understand not being able to understand on criminal investigation but this is an internal investigation. we as members of congress have asked for the documents to be turned over, they have not been, and the names of the report he was aghast about, have not received it. we don't trust the fbi to do the right thing internally. i understand not being able to talk about a criminal investigation but this particular instance targeting catholics, targeting religious americans, planting spies in parishes across the united states, i don't believe the catholics are up to any nefarious activity the fbi suspects they were involved in, we know what is about, this is all about the election in 2024. internal documents said the reasons for these outrageous thoughts from these catholics around the nation as they said should calm down after the election. so everything about this is politics, that's what jim jordan is talking about, what we are trying to get the fbi to get

away from. they have to admit they have a problem, they have to talk about how they are going to fix it and i believe the american people want answers and coming into the 2024 election cycle, the last thing we should be talking about. the fbi needs to move on from political pursuits and prosecutions and submit to oversight by the united states congress. >> sandra: lance gooden, the rep from texas, i understand you stepped away from the room to do this interview, and i know there will be more questions fired off to wray. we will get back to it when it is underway again. appreciate it. >> john: good to see the congressman. knew at 2:00, a house subcommittee set to take on the deadly fentanyl crisis. lawmakers holding a hearing to focus on mexican drug cartels and their trafficking of the drug across the southwest border. matt lost his daughter, and his

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