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l.a. you can buy some raw or as a chocolate bar, microdosing small vices become popular instead of xanax for anxiety. our lawmakers choices are this, keep mushrooms illegal, allow them only for therapy, or make them available for recreational use to get high for anyone who chooses. >> we are very careful not to be evangelical about the use of psychedelics. we think that they may have benefits and circumspect consent and become with risks. >> and the overdosing -- the bottom line is after detectives on the fringe psychedelic mushrooms are back. >> well, i guess not only know. >> enjoy the trip. >> thank you william. >> fox news alert, three big live events following america's newsroom, first john caregiving terrace the money and a growing cost of going green. >> also were expecting
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fireworks as they investigate into elon musk and his purchase of twitter. >> live, president biden will be holding a news conference with the president of the finland that is nato's newest member. >> cocaine in the white house how it got there and who is to blame, congress looking for answers in a closed-door briefing by the secret service as a biden administration to insist while questions from the news media. welcome to a brand-new wall as america's newsroom. i am dana perino. >> lindamood and i like it. >> i like your. >> your funny. >> don't you think this he could knows by now, if they are there not telling us because right now that briefings people what they've learned on the coke from last week last week in the west wing. the presence of illegal drugs raising questions of the level of security maintained in the white house, and a discovery that white powder forcing the evacuation of the entire building. now lawmakers are hoping the secret service can identify the culprit. >> i think those fingerprints
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that they found on the back. i will say this about the secret service, at least from right now, they are cooperating with congress which is kind of a novel concept when you look at the doj of the fbi. so i am interested to see where this goes. and again, if it's a tourist and fine. >> made a face of the live at the white house what we know are not known? >> good morning. what we know is both the house and the senate are trying to get more information from the u.s. secret service about the drugs that were discovered within the west wing but so far in terms of a suspect know which from investigators. those jokes were discovered in a funk of the inside the west wing back on july 2nd there was even a brief evacuation of the white house because they were concerned that could be much more hazardous but since then the white house has been sending most questions to the secret service the congressman of kentucky is demanding answers. he says the presence of illegal drugs as unacceptable in a shameful moment in warehouse history. congress funds white house procedures in the secret service
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has a responsibility to maintain effective safety protocols. kevin mccarthy going even further. >> think about how far the white house has fallen from the last president to this president. not only do you have people flashing in the rose garden, now you have cocaine being found in the compliance. >> so far president biden has yet to weigh in on the situation, reporters have shorter questions but no luck. the white house press secretary has taken a few question on the spreadsheet onto the great legs to say that the first family was not in washington when the drugs were found. the briefing today up on capitol hill is happening behind closed doors and classified so and i couldn't see anything happening over time but there's a possibility lawmakers could get their reaction at least of what they learned once they come out of the hearing and it's also possible that we could get an update from the service later on today. >> pay attention and we know you well. thank you all so much. >> meanwhile they have until 5:00 eastern time today to indicate if they can make
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available multiple people involved in the hunter biden investigation available to get transcribed interviews. if that happens, could be quite revealing. it comes at the request from three house committee chair is looking to get to the justice je department, what they've done so far, their life in the doj today david? >> good morning. no word from the justice department yet if the attorney general or his staff will meet the 5:00 p.m. deadline but i'm told there will be some sort of response of course, we will watch closely for that. it is also likely, this is not for sources this is just general knowledge, it is unlikely that he will allow all of these people to testify because technically the hunter biden probe is still an active investigation. as an active investigation at least until the plea deal is signed, sealed, and delivered and accepted by a judge if she accepts it in less than two weeks on july 26. house chairman over the side chair men, and jason smith, what
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the attorney general to make available 11 people connected to the investigation. delaware u.s. attorney's on the list, he's a jump up on a u.s. attorney who is not on the record in three records of congress saying that he's been in charge of the probe despite claims from the irs whistle-blower who claims that he said the opposite. the other two big names he's assisted the u.s. attorney leslie wolf and u.s. attorney matthew graves says he wants the office here in washington, d.c. according to the whistle-blower they complained that his office prevented him from charging hunter biden in d.c., and said not true in a letter to lindsey graham on monday said that he was assured that he would be granted disability if it proves necessary. meanwhile he set up camera several weeks ago, that he was free to talk about this with congress whenever he wanted listen to this. >> i will support mr. weiss, explaining a testifying on these matters when he deems it appropriate. >> bill and dana, if garland
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does not cooperate with this deadline, the question where does it go from here? a few weeks ago kevin mccarthy used the i word, impeachment, seems like that tark is tamping down. congressman just asked by fox maybe 30 minutes ago, he said that we are a long way away from that. for anything like that to happen. we will follow up, back to you. >> david nikki so much. >> this is -- what when my family member's get on the train, i get a knot in my stomach. >> evan bragg admitting that he is afraid of crime on the subway. while new yorkers are finding that 70% of new yorkers think crime is a serious issue, mayor eric adams might think it's serious but is blaming the media for covering it. and why did pd joins us now. so there is concern that the something they can do about it -- >> you would think right and he doesn't say i'm concerned when i go on the subway and went
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about my family when they take the subway line is he has security and a driver. so in order to stop the people who make the sort of policy, there is one very simple thing he could do immediately. just in the cassette was more safe all around. and that is to enforce for jumping. the people who jump at the back people who do not pay their fair for the subways the costs almost $5 million to the city every year. for those of the folks who, if you're going that's able to commit crime, you not paying your fare. i was there 25 years ago, and that laws already on the books. it exists. enforcing that alone you would see a significant jump in safety. >> you would need a cop in every station would you not? >> no you put them in selected stations we have some intelligence them more and more people are going to, like the busier places, and would would get around. there were no you know what i can't do that. if they go out of the way to
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places then you would do debriefs of people who got arrested on the subway, and you figure out how to get enough, once the word gets out that was stopped. and i don't have to speculate. her work in the 90s. >> so, the mayor was on our local firefox five here new york check it out. and he had something to say about the news coverage and away way we report the news and cr crime. >> if you lead off every day of some of the horrific incidents that take place with a .5 million people, is a feeling that one has, and my mission is to move people from what they felt the what are feeling. and no one can take away the fact that this city is humming. >> if only. so the anchor said but, unfortunately, we just report on things that actually happened. >> yeah it's bad news of shoot the messenger type of thinking. let's try a thought experiment right now, the six most
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expensive was in the english language. we are no longer a sanctuary city. six words, according to the estimates, the migrants are gonna cost the city about $3 billion over his tenure. as 500 million per word. that alone will take a lot of pressure off of the social system in new york city that you normally used to house the homeless. so it's not an accident that we are seeing more and more homeless people on the street. and there is no plan to get them forcibly off. all cops can do is take them to the hospital they give them iv and then there right back out the door. that's not a good system. >> can i show you the cover of "the new york post." his call time scare, it's a man walking around at 10:00 a.m., threatening people with a large net that you can see that he's carrying. and it's not just media hype, we have reasons to go across times square three times, needs a bit shocking. there's a ton of tours and people still want to come to new york city and they want to love new york city. >> they do. this is still the number one
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visited city in the country. and it's number two in the world behind paris. so you are right, people still want to come here and they're hopeful and the idea that we've had this attorney is this tenacious state for steaks city primates over the big season. but they haven't gotten the message yet. but we were not what we were. but is still a great place and we want them here. but the bottom line is the quality of life crimes are visible and that is the key thing here. we see it now because videos on the phone can't hide it anymore. >> that's right it's the five -- it's not the media's fault. >> we are all the media now. before it's good to have it talk to you soon. now check this out. >> we've never had much like this. and now seller has been turned upside down. and it's gonna be a long recovery. >> chair is that the homeowner trying to rebuild after a week ago of a terrible storm. the map looks ominous raising the possibility of more flooding. we are live in the state capital
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to bring you more on scenes like. >> plus the republican is holding a hearing on pandemic relief fraud, so how much of your taxpayer dollars are wasted we hear from the committee chairman coming up. >> also a chapter doozy offering their idea of a highlight reel of sorts shall we say. >> ai is a fancy thing, it is two letters. and it means artificial intelligence.
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one. >> after a flash fighting happen across the state, the governor talking at a news conference this hour in that area getting hit with more downpours today. that having rain could last until tomorrow. nate is like back again and nate what you seem to do with that liver behind you? >> build the rain has been coming down and spread so far this morning, and they said in e news conference at they're expecting rain throughout the weekend with sunday being the data particularly watching closely. families and a lot of people will be looking at the wrightsville dam about 3 miles north of where we are and vermont's capital. and also the river that you see behind me. and to give you some perspective bill, during those floods that we saw the beginning of the week, 9 inches of rain throughout part of the state in just two days. the water from the river rose over the railroad tracks, and you can see what was left behind. just a whole bunch of degree delete not debris.
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this was a small example of a massive cleanup effort underway. not only here in the capital, but also throughout the state and particularly in the sound of dairy. take a look at this video where the governor took a tour of damaged homes and he was joined by the a fema administrator as well as the senators. we went through a lot of these homes built in nearly every single basement is flooded out. and they also have fluids for damages well. one mother told us that her family are now going through take a listen here. >> she didn't know what to do, she worked in yesterday and melted. enter said this was my home. i've worked so hard for this and look at my home i have nothing now. >> so take a look of this, our drone team is also lives right now and gary, and you see them over a river was similar to what we are in the capital, just a lot of debris has collected at the base of this bridge. everything from trees to tires and also a large collection of debris on top of the bridge you can see this in a residential
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area but take a look at this next video just to show you that throughout the entire state, people are dealing with similar damage. everywhere from cambridge down to camp additional hundred and 25 miles between the two cities, both communities dealing with significant damage from this historic flooding. i got here just a few hundred things were learning from governor's press confidence. the rescue of operations are not happening right now. they wrap that up at 1:00 a.m. but they are prepared to conduct more rescue operations as they expect more rain today and tomorrow and throughout the entire we can. sending it back to you. >> thank you for that. looking at the pictures above this city in vermont, had something else is the big leap not governor continues his press conference. we'll keep you posted on that and will let you know how they're doing going into the we can. >> the house panel is holding a hearing on the hundreds of billions of dollars in covid release money was lost to fraud
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and abuse. earlier they release a scathing report about the small business administration thing in part this... the agency weekend remove the controls necessary to prevent fractures from gaining access to these programs and provide assurance that only eligible entities receive funds, however through a lure of easy money in this chase environment, it could attract an overwhelming number of plastic to the program. joining us now is roger williams of texas, and i note here that the total federal aid distributed was $1.2 trillion. we could put that on the board for everyone to see. and fraud makes up 17% of that. so, it's just a mind-boggling number. and what is your take on if there's any way to get it back? >> we will try to get it back up a lung to taxpayers. we have one at a five of these loans that appears to be fraudulent and agency. and they just got a billion
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dollar budget and missing $200 billion. based on the report. that the inspector general issued. we have a hearing today. and we have the inspector general here who's going to be before the hearing of the alsace asked jim general guzman to come twice and she is not coming to the hearing today. she has other things to do we were told. so i would think she would want to come in and we want to defend herself and bring everyone and with how to prove a point but she says there's only $36 billion missing as if it's just chump change. so were going to get into it and find out what the money is in trying get it back from the taxpayers but it's another one of these agencies that has been running and there's no guard rails are rules and people have money who wants a bus to get it. even foreign money and money that went overseas. so we can to retake and get it back. >> i noticed that the department of justice has criminal charges against one person or more defendants.
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if everyone can see this, there is an attempt to do this, but i also wonder about this, i am distended that it was an emergency. but if there's a responsibility that she did placed on the trump or congress administration to make sure to prevent this. so we know that this type of allure of the easy money is something that attracts fraudsters. >> to stop blaming people right now when everyone you said -- we hear about the blame, but what i want to deal with right now there's $200 billion right now that we do not know where it is and is taxpayers money that was supposed to go to mainstream americans to keep business is open and key people working so on and so forth. we need to find out where that is and we need to find out and she will guard with that can put out. and who knows it could be more than that. but i don't want to do the blame game and get backwards going to move forward into our committee
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and see if we can't get back some of his money and get it back to the taxpayers. in into the hands of main street america. >> so going forward we need to authorize the sort of emergency spending hopefully this never happens again the code congress mandate that the agencies have the separate protections in place before her question before her question to ask before i think they should. it's like every business in america, yet the assets and liability and people working for you and to protect investment and i think you require congress to put guardrails and indian wars and how to play the game. so we don't have this issue but this was just willy-nilly a lot of money in the system, a lot of the ppp work, there's no question about that, but we need people who are using phony social security numbers, fraudulent information, money going overseas for foreign nationals, there is a real problem there and you've got guzman, the chairman who does not want even come before committee and talk about this in wants to get a fix. it just like that if a million dollars is chump change. let's just write it off and the
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receivables america has to do taxpayers you can't just write that off. >> absolutely. congressman thank you for coming out today we look forward to hearing. >> thank you very much data. >> speaking of hearings we have to do is he's happening right now on the hill. screen love, and at the house foreign affairs subcommittee, ad it got john kerry in the hot seat. and republicans are set to grill him on what he's doing on climate change traveling around the world and sherry said that he only reports the president. so it is pretty for republicans. in the meantime, screen rights that you've got a judiciary committee hearing, jim jordan and others, and they want to know what is the ftc doing in regarding elon musk and twitter and whether investigating him. the suggestion is that they are not quite sure that he's protecting users privacy. you will see how this both goes. and i think the carry one could ring some fireworks here.
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>> probably could. i'll be watching. >> he has yet to speak but when he does, we will let you know. and many time there is this check this out. >> safety is the biggest source concern. it is scanning the people. >> their home is crisis business owners are not blaming for this. in the ai arms race goes up one more notch. but elon musk has in mind as of today.
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nordic leaders one day after the nato summit. white house correspondent is live at the presidential palace in helsinki. we expect the president will be wrapping up his meetings and taking some questions from the press st >>any moment is the he's about to address the crowd here. and as we present invention we expect biden to talk about the significance of moving away from severe depression. finley was on the russian wants a 1917. they tried to stay neutral during competence. in joining nato all of that. to the going to underscore that this event with finland being the newest member of nato, really fly in the face of potent central belief that he could somehow break up and divide nato instead it has expanded to include russians neighbor with sweden on its way. and we're likely to hear similar things as we hear let the linea
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about ukraine joining nato, but we also expect we are going to hear that nato supply for ukraine will not falter its unity is not going to wait there, and exited the president also seem to be addressing the american people but he was talking about ukraine. in saying that a secure europe, not helps the american people. that america cannot prosper without a secure europe. seeming to direct that conversation to people who have started to sour and the idea of you keep continuing to create. but the focus was about nato's order the communication and sweden's membership here. sweden is finland's neighbor, and has been by turkey for about a year, they dropped his block on the country, but unclear when the vote is going to happen. when they said that we should not expected until at least october when the parliament will come back. but we also know that he is wiki the back waiting on f-16s and the u.s. and is also a need
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reiterate on the promises that were made to him by the swedish prime minister on that summit. which included a number of 17-point article agreements that they presented at the meeting. so it's going to be a little while longer before sweden is part of nato but were going to be celebrating finland here today with the two presidents here. >> i'm sure we will see you again very soon as the press conference is about to get a new thank you. while was once called the next silicon valley, texas was booming but now homeless crisis and rising crime is threatening to destroy all of the progress. ray was fox business' live in austin hello. >> hello, the same problems that have been plaguing silicon valley are now problems here. people who live an honest and tell has become a huge problem. in basic crime in general has gotten much worse as the homeless population has gotten bigger. on any given day in the city of austin. there are over 5400 people
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living on the street according to a local nonprofit. that's up almost 7.5% from before the pandemic. jamie hamman has been the past year documenting the growing problem. >> they say that we're a few years behind san francisco usually in austin, and were starting to see that, san francisco you see that their locking products up because shoplifting is flourishing and started to happen you for sure. >> proud of the problem he says is that the city it is not clearing out homeless encampments like this one. he took the radio shortly after something caught fire. and he said that people come from all over the state even all over the country for the services the city provides. on top of that, the police department is short more than 300 officers, and the union tells us they do not have the manpower to deal with the problem. one real estate agents because as more and more of his clients are looking to the suburbs because they are worried about the safety in the city.
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>> a few windows have been broken, people have been camping and carports. behind the house actually, we have a list and i'm running somebody off right now. david scared away a stage or who is trying to get a hard stage it was listing it and try to get on the market, and there was a sleeping bag on the floor. >> we've also heard complaints that we hear the big cities across the country that had the the district attorney is not prosecuting crimes. the local station here in austin is reporting this week about a homeless man who was arrested six times in the past year, and each time the charges have been tossed. dana? >> thank you. this is disturbing. >> so now to the rise of ai, billionaire elon musk's has an idea on invading a new start-up called x ai, to compete with chatgpt online now. karen expect to see and
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thank you for coming and speaking with us today, so i want to know how it is different maybe from what we've seen so far? and he said something that really caught my attention, super intelligence right? that is one area, is smarter than human beings. and elon musk for disks that that will arrive in five or six years from now. has he said that before? >> there is a schism of everyone needs to know that there's a lot of researchers that they are one of two camps recently they think that artificial general intelligence is going to take over the world or they think agi is something that not actually exist. yuan is on the side of those who signed that letter advocating for a pause at least for six months on the development of these ai systems that are more powerful than chatgpt because he does believe that there is some indication of an existential threat and i think his new hires for the new
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venture in nevada, demonstrates that. he's hired dan high kicks who runs the center for ai safety who has been very vocal and up, up potential for an x essential threat coming from unfettered ai development. and i do think elon musk is very wary of potential ei dystopia, and he wants to create that pro-humanity ai in contravention look to what he thinks openai the group he cofounded in 2018 is doing now. >> is a riddle for you, if everyone's doing the right way and other was a do it in the wrong way what is a matter in the end? this in the wrong way win. we are relying on these machines to talk to each other. >> yes and that's one of the biggest problems. and a lot of us can agree on this in the tech policy world is that they should be some degree of a framework for policy solutions to all of this and we talked about guardrails, we talk about safe gut, we talked about the bare minimum of ai explain ability which is allowing the
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systems to be able to account for their decisions and the outcomes of these processes. via machine. so i think it's very critical to at least have a flow of policies, and dare i say regulations on this technology because it is going for it a way that may not be as impatient and elon musk's words, especially in the vision of the well. >> got to get on hannah gallegos folks together. meanwhile, here's a prediction. 27% of jobs... they are at risk of automation. once artificial intelligence takes hold firmly. we are talking about construction farming fishing forestry, production and transportation -- that covers a lot of categories. >> really does. in the assessment of old ecd that release these new report says that they have a lot of credibility when it comes to ai they release a set of principles in 2019 bestsellers a simple
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start of a lot of us were looking for this research and they have a lot of credibility and they've indicated that white collar jobs for now are less at risk for automation but i do believe that they will be in the crosshairs in the future. in you when you look at radiology and the things that we did in afghanistan, with the full-motion video analyst computer vision algorithms replace a lot of that that human beings were doing. i love it there is a bright side of people reserving the analytical rigor for deeper assessment. so not just doing a very simple thing. there's a silver lining for all of this but it is for some. >> to be continued. thank you for your time. >> here it is dana let's move to stedman in the present of the united states with his finished counterpart. >> there are plenty of you here. first of all, joe, mr. president, i would like to
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thank you for visiting sandra lin. we've had so many possibilities meeting each other's quite often during the time we've been together. and this is the first time we've met and also we had the chance to meet when we were at an summit meeting before. so we've had a lot of discussion during the last couple of years and i want to once again thank you for the strong support you have given all the time. >> it is my honor. >> the new era in finland is the security policy. and it has become great, and you've been one of those who have made it to history. >> i also want to thank you for the meeting, because it was
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very touching to field the unity between the allies. and i think it was greatly created by you. and we had the possibilities of discussing bilaterally today, regarding the negotiations about cooperation agreements. and were going to continue our security discourse, and by that, that is very important to finland. at the same time also, sweeting and denmark are having similar discussions. then at the end, it seems like all five nordic countries will have an ally agreement with the united states. technology is one of the keywords for the future.
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and they are elements like artificial intelligence both with technology, and sky technology, but all of that is to say, that we are leading the way to the future, and we have to make sure that it's getting our way in a very secure way and that demands responsibility of those who know how -- and that is why it is very important to coordinate and cooperate with our related knowledge and resources in this sector. we also had to have a discussion on our need for. and i think that we both share
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similar views the war in ukraine also, was discussed. and we both see that we will continue support to ukraine. not only defending ourselves, but also all the values that we represent in the western world. we also had a meeting with the nordic family and it is tradition which started during president obama's time. it is been very, very beneficial for us to get even better understanding of each other. especially with the security technology that was also discussed there. and a lot of time and thoughts that are represented on night in the environmental sections.
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so once again, it has been great to have you here. >> will thank you mr. president it's been great to be here. it's been an honor to be with you another nordic friends. and i will suggest we finished a very productive summit on the heels of the historic native summit, i would family took its place at the table, as our newest ally, and alyssa fisher ally of nato, i also want to think christiansen of sweden and who will soon be joining nato, and in no way, they had a great relationship, and fred fredrickson of denmark, and then administrate of ireland, the debtor idaughter of ari ling, id
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like to say that we all had a vy productive summit. and we understand the inflection point in history. where the decisions we make now will determine the course of the history for the next 456 dec decades. in this weekly affirmed house swimming in the united states together, with allies and partners and working in lockstep to set up into a stronger and more secure path for the weld. this to be the first time in 31 nations that were showing the world that our alliance is more united than ever thanks soon built a 32 allies thanks to the agreement with turkey to move sweeting to succession protocol. as partners to democracy are going to add significantly to
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the security and anonymity of nato. and were stronger and it makes the entire world stronger. mr. president, jeremiah, we want to people offended to know that the united states is committed to finland antenatal and they are rock solid. and we defend every inch of nato territory and that includes finn then obviously over the past week also, we've had unwavering support as they defend the country against the butyl inhumane attacks. i allies and partners around the world understand that this fight is not only a fight for the future of ukraine, but it's a bounce security and freedom itself. i want you to think about what would happen if we did not do anything, what is likely to happen to the rest of europe if they did nothing. so this week i'm on nato's officially elevated their relationship with ukraine. in allies and they've also
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agreed to lift and move the ship back to planus and is a required before they can be admitted. and from ukraine, and it's created a path of membership for ukraine as it continues to make progress on the necessary democratic insecurity report required of every nato member. is also made clear to president zelenskyy that we are now waiting for nato membership to be finalized to commit long-term's to ukraine. they issued a new joint declaration support for ukraine but the declaration i was glad to see the nordic nation immediately welcomed to support him. it's going to launch a process open to any nation to negotiate bilateral security agreement with ukraine until they officially members of nato. and not only assure that you claim that defend themselves today, but it would deter fishing aggression is well. with the capable force across
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grant air and sea. and finally, in every stop and every summit on this trip, we focus on using the power of partnership to take on the town just matter most to the people of the people's lives and the people's country. in the united kingdom luke brought together partners to discuss ways to unlock nearly trillions of private dollars and finance to fight climate change. in lithuania, native allies met and they continued to advance our work on terrorism cyberthreats resilience and so much more. inherent finland, at our u.s. nordic leader summit, they reaffirm our commitment to stand together. power to power clean energy transition. to preserve regional security. to promote democratic values. need to pioneer the technology of future technology to advance communications so we can do it together. mr. president, and this critical
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moment of history, this inflection point, the world is watching to see what we do the hard work that matters to forge a better future will be sent together and will be sent with one another we will stay committed to our corridors, this week some in the united states and our allies and partners said a resounding loud yes. yes we will step up. and yes we will stand together. and yes we will keep working through our stronger and safer and more secure world. so mr. president, thank you again for having me here, as partners friends and allies and we look forward to light years ahead, and it's been a real pleasure getting to know you even better. thank you. >> thank you. now we have time for questions. >> shall we start with... i think we'll start with you. >> my question is for mr. president biden, the
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political volatility of the united states remains big ways for your european partners. meanwhile back in washington a bipartisan group of senators have repeatedly failed to pass to the senate a bill that will prevent the u.s. presidents in the future when we throwing nato without senate approval -- >> adding his last party is a question i'm sorry. >> in washington a bipartisan group of what senators have repeatedly failed to pass through senate a lot that will prevent u.s. presidents from the drawing from nato without senate approval. what actions will you take to ensure that finland will remain a reliable nato partner for decades to come? >> i absolutely guarantee it. there's no question, there is overwhelming support from the american people in this overwhelming support from the members of the congress both house and the senate and both parties notwithstanding the fact that this in the extreme elements one party. we will stand together.
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the american people know for the most sense the end of world war ii. in the formation of nato that are security rests in the unanimity among european and transatlantic partners us. and so this is -- no one can guarantee the future, but this is the best that anyone can make. >> my second question on that note mr. president is here and here in this answer that no one can guarantee of future are you worried that the political instability in the united states low cost issues in the alliance in the future question asked before let me be clear i didn't say we can guarantee future, but you can't tell me where they are be able to go home tonight, no one can be sure what you're going to do. i'm and saying it sure is anything that could be said about american foreign policy and we will stay connected to nato. can nate dixon nato beginning middle an end come over transatlantic partnership. that's what it said.
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>> it seems as though the president has answered your problem. my question, but i have to tell you that during this process, i met approximately several biden many times. but i will say about 50 people from congress have said not to. and i think the message was quite clear. and quite united. and i have no reason to doubt about the united states policies in the future. >> limited will my thing. we found we've learned a hard lesson. peace and security is essential to u.s. security and peace. the althea that they could be conflict among our friends and is not engages never happened in modern history.
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that's why i was staying together. >> next question. to president biden. >> all okay. "the wall street journal" an answer? >> thank you mr. president. he said that the ukraine should not enter the war nadel until after the war is over, wouldn't that encourage biden to continue this war to drag it on for years? in d.c. and a path towards the war ending with pollutant pollutants still in power? >> first of all no one can join nato while a war is going on. or a nato nation is being attacked. because that guarantees a longer work. or a world war. it's not about whether or not they shouldn't or should not join it's about when they can join. and they will join nato.
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the issue of whether or not this is going to keep pollutants from continuing the answer is yes, pollutants already lost the war. put in has a real problem how does he move from here and what does he do? so the idea that there is going to be a vehicle that's going to be use he could end the war tomorrow it could just say i am done i'm out. but what agreement is ultimately reached depends upon. and what he decides to do. but there is no possibility of him winning the war in ukraine. because he's already lost that work. imagine if england -- anyway he's ready lost at work. >> just on the question of the concerned about going on for years -- it's a possibility that there's a stalemate in this? >> whether or not the work is gone for years will there be a stalemate over the continue for quite some time?
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>> i don't think of the war could go on for years for two reasons -- number one i do not think that russia could maintain the war forever. number one in terms of the resources and capacity. number two, i think that there is going to be a circumstance where eventually, president putin is going to decide that is not in the interests of russia economically politically or otherwise to continue the work. but i can't predict exactly how that happens. i hope it is my expectation is that you will see ukraine make significant progress on their offensive and that it generates a negotiated settlement somewhere along the line. >> i have the question for the finished president but i would leave in this if i didn't let my colleagues has been represented from within a hundred days -- d have an update on the process
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for trying to get him out of prison and if you're serious about a present exchange? >> i'm serious about us present exchange, and you will be cancer free americans being illegally held. in russia or anywhere else for that matter. in that process is currently underway. >> like i told -- like i was discussing on this, the corporation agreement, it has a lot of elements that are still open. but we are opening our negotiations on building the base and finland. another know that everyone else is also very open. so we'll see. >> the next question go to the minister.
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>> yes? >> thank you mr. president. and my question is for mr. president biden. should i just say president biden? you have repeatedly talked about then then becoming an organization offend them. now based on -- >> >> you have repeatedly talked about sin then becoming nadel of finland -- based on your long experience how does that change? finland's place in the world? >> first of all, the context in which i said that was the gentleman who occupies the sea and the other study of in moscow, said that he wanted to use then the realization of nato
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as is more likely that nato ionization offend them. that is when the context of which that was said. moses okpala your question? >> i asked, how his finland decision in the world changed during his nato membership process? >> they are ready a strong and vibrant nation. i think what that meant joining nato, what this does when the country are all members of nato is make the world safer. significantly increasing the prospect that there is less likely to be war. we are deadly and is about that nation and we want to defend every single inch of nato territory and now we are on the way of getting to 32 nato nations. that is a significant comm commitment. so the likelihood of any nation voluntarily deciding that the going to attack one of the
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nation's offending is highly unlikely. and so, if they were to understand that they're not just attacking offend them but they attacking 31 other countries yes. >> next question will go to president biden please. >> i'm sorry. >> thank you mr. president. we've seen more disarray with bressan generals with the firing of a fine general who criticized the defense ministry following the -- this is raised in a new concerned about put in doing more drastic things regarding ukraine? like nuclear weapons for protection against the u.s. like election interference >> first of all they ready interfered in american elections so that won't be anything new. they did that last time or at least they tried to. but regarding -- i don't think there's any real prospect -- you
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never know of vladimir putin using nuclear weapons. for the rest of the world, they just say don't go there. they keep saying don't go there. number two, number three, i think that determining what happens to foreclosure, what happens to excuse me -- what happens when we discuss this in other areas, is that god only knows what he is likely to do. and not even sure -- 100 and sure where he is. and what relationship he has. if i was him i would be careful what i eat. and may be keeping my eye on my menu. but all kidding aside, who knows. i do not know. i don't think any of us know for certain what the future of what things will look like in russia. i do not know how to answer that question beyond that. >> if i could ask you something about what's happening back home, you seen the g.o.p.
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