pills. marks is being processed and fingerprinted and awaiting word on the timing of her arraignment. >> bill: thanks for that in boston. before we go. okay. >> dana: we need a little something. >> bill: with brian kilmeade. >> dana: this is a quiz how well we knew each other. >> bill: pretty good. pretty funny. >> dana: how well do we know each other? >> brian saturday night, check it out. one nation. how do we? >> dana: harris is next. >> harris: fox confirmed police identified the key suspect wanted for the murders of several women. rex hoyerman. a father of two and married. a huge break that is being called good old-fashioned police work. the case dates back more than a decade. now a man from long island, new york is in custody in connection with an unsolved string of killings known as the gilgo

beach murders. the remains of 11 people were found between 2010 and 2011 along a highway near that beach. most of the victims were young women. it made national headlines and then the trail to catch the serial killer went cold. police news conference scheduled for later this afternoon. we'll bring you that live. we've just caught up with former prosecutor and investigation expert nancy grace, host of crime stories on fox nation. you are on the phone. appreciate the time now. want to get your initial reaction to this. >> thank you for inviting me. the families have fought for justice for so long and the -- after an early morning raid is 59-year-old rex hoyerman. married, according to neighbors and everyday guy, a quote family

man with at least two children. taking the train from long island to his office in the city of new york. it is disturbing because he wore the mask of respectability of being just an everyday guy. anything but. multiple times. it is a lonely stretch of beach. we learning and the neighbors say not surprised. >> harris: that's hard to believe. there was always a thought an dna or something scientific. if the neighbors couldn't pick out this guy. people closest to him. he lived in the house for many years as a husband and father. but a source is now saying to the daily mail that good old-fashioned police work cracked the case rather than dna developments. they traced phone calls, nancy, made from a burner phone.

this nice neighborhood guy allegedly had to the victims' cell phones over ten years ago. >> exactly, burner calls to prostitution victims. many who had advertised on craig's list seemingly the key in that is good old-fashioned detective work. we're also hearing there may be a dna link. it cracked the case wide open. if it really is based on cell phone identification, why was it not done earlier? for this moment, i am so thankful an arrest has finally been made. i have spoken to relatives, families, they have children, they have mothers looking for them and families searching for them only to find out their

remains were thrown off the side of a beach there at gilgo beach. >> harris: tell me about the beach area. the highway that was nearby. we have dr. michael bodin coming on later talking to us about the kinds of evidence police had to work with in this case. there was such -- it is not exactly an area that people don't know about. >> no, no, no, it is right there on the beach in long island. and with respect to that it's 26 minutes, 17 miles from the suspect's home. which even connect him. he had easy access. as you know on all the cases that we have covered, perps often commit murders in an area familiar to them. the time, date, location, hour

of disposing of the bodies. it is right there along the beach front which i always thought was very bold. once the original body was found it opened up a pandora's box leading to 11 sets of remains. >> harris: it is being played out on the screen. you can see where remains are found and a clustered area and basically out in the open especially if you live on long island, you know where this beach is. nancy grace, always great to start the program with breaking news with you. thank you for being with me. >> goodbye, friend. >> harris: we're awaiting an update from the police commissioner on this case and we'll bring it to you live. later again i will talk with dr. michael bodin, a forensic pathologist about the evidence in this case and what the suspect could be facing. speaking of mysteries, did the

white house think the cocaine controversy and mystery would suddenly go away? somebody there did. maybe that's why they didn't bother the tell the public the last two times drugs were found at the white house according to the secret service. it ended its investigation into the coke left in a cubby. no information about how it got there. no suspect identified. the agency says the f.b.i. did forensic testing and found no fingerprints or sufficient dna evidence to figure out who left the bag' full of cocaine in the most securely guarded place on the planet, 1600 pennsylvania avenue. federal investigators crying cover up. senator lindsey graham says people need to lose their jobs over this. >> somebody brought cocaine into the white house and the secret service has no idea who did it. that's not confidence inspiring.

somebody needs to be fired because somebody allowed cocaine to get into the white house and once it was there, we can't prove who did it is unnerving. but somebody needs to be fired for letting it happen. >> harris: are democrats just fine with it? they seem to be acting that way. the ranking democrat on house oversight tweeted this. i'm satisfied that the secret service and the white house are on top of it. then this came out. the secret service revealed another banned substance was found in biden's white house, small amounts of marijuana were found on two occasions in 2022 at a checkpoint. possessing less than two ounces of marijuana is not a crime in washington, d.c. however, the substance is not allowed on federal property, including the white house. aishah hosni has more from the white house. aishah. >> good morning to you. the white house this morning is not offering a press briefing today so reporters won't get to

ask any follow-up questions hours after the secret service closed this major investigation. the white house likely have happy to just move on from this. so the secret service is telling us it closed the investigation because it wasn't able to find or single out a person of interest because of a lack of physical evidence basically they couldn't find fingerprints, not enough dna to compare it to anyone in the white house. congressman burchett called it a clown show and failure. kevin mccarthy is blasting the whole ordeal for once again showing america the biden white house can really get away with anything. >> it just seems to me when it comes to the biden, inc. family they get treated different than anybody else. this location right by the situation room, very few people get to go around there. they can't tell us who brought it? what else is happening in the white house they can't tell us about? what else is coming into the

white house? >> we know the secret service found the bag of cocaine inside a cubby near the entrance to the west wing that's used to temporarily store electronic and personal devices. now we're learning a little bit more after a classified briefing for lawmakers yesterday. representative lauren boebert says the secret service told her out of nearly 200 lockers in that area, that bag was in locker number 50. that the key to that locker is still missing. as you mentioned, the secret service admitted they found small amounts of marijuana last year twice but it was too small to prosecute. harris. >> harris: thank you very much. we'll go to some breaking news right now. suffolk county police in long island, new york talking about the arrest of that suspect in the serial killer search that we were just reporting to you now. this is rodney harrison with that police department. the commissioner. >> an indictment. later on this afternoon and we're going to probably have a

press conference around 4:00 to 5:00 this afternoon with the district attorney and a lot of the other leadership that law enforcement has out here in suffolk county. i do have to take advantage of this opportunity to thank the teamwork, the effort, the work by all the members of the task force allowing us to get to this point today. it was a collaborative effort. the resilient work that was done allowed us to place somebody into custody. once again there will be a lot more detailed press conference later on today at 4:00 out in riverhead at the district attorney's office. i will pass it over to our county executive steve malone. >> thank you commissioner. this is my 12th year as county executive. i have lived with the gilgo

beach investigation for my entire tenure as county executive. i can tell you that during that time, the focus for me, members of our team, have been on bringing justice for these victims and closure to these families who have suffered. today's developments take us a major step forward in doing exactly that. i want to thank all the members of law enforcement but particularly here today the suffolk county police department, commissioner rodney harrison. when i nominated commissioner harrison, i specifically spoke about one of the most important

factors, and that is his background, his investigative background as former chief of detectives in the nypd. former chief of department in the nypd. and that the focus that he would bring to the investigation. he did that right from the start. even before he started, visiting the site where the bodies were discovered, releasing strategically new information, reconstituting the gilgo beach investigative tack force and bringing together the law enforcement partners. i want to thank all of our law enforcement partners. i want to thank the district attorney and his team for their great work. i want to thank the new york state police, the f.b.i., and all the law enforcement partners

who have worked on this case for so many years. i want to thank our former police commissioner, commissioner tim seeny, who then was followed by police commissioner jerry hart when he was elected district attorney. former head of the f.b.i. with commissioner seeny came into office, he immediately reengaged federal law enforcement and that was jerry hart. again the head of the f.b.i. when she took over as police commissioner she continued to work with the district attorney and worked to advance the case. and now here we are today with this arrest taking place, this major development in the case, and moving closer to that goal that we have all been working towards. i want the public to know the message to the public is that we

have never stopped working on this case. there are police officers, suffolk police officers who started working on this case who have retired now. but their efforts, their dedication has never stopped putting more resources into the case. there were people who talked about this case never getting to this point, never getting to this resolution that we see today, this development that we see today. but it was the non-stop dogged determination of the men and women of the suffolk county police department and investigators and the nassau county police department. all of that work never stopped. a message to the men and women of the suffolk county police

department, my thanks to you and specifically the investigators here and the teamworking under commissioner harrison. i have always been incredibly proud of the men and women of this department. it's one of the finest law enforcement agencies in the nation and the world. i'm proud of the work that they've done here to bring us this much closer. the work is not done and you will hear more details on that later today. the work is not done here, but this is a major, major step forward in achieving the goal that we have had from the beginning and that is again to bring closure to these families and bring justice to the victims in this case. there will be more to discuss later. thank you very much.

we aren't going to take any additional questions at this time. thank you very much. >> harris: all right. that was the county executive. they did hiring of people, specialists like the new police commissioner to come in and try to crack what they just knew they could if they kept at it and they feel that they have now. we are going to keep you updated on this. i'm eager to talk with someone i call on in times like these where the victims's families are aching for justice, dr. michael bodin. performed an autopsy on a woman suspected to be a victim in the case. for now, let's go to politics, which is initially where we started this hour before this breaking news. marc thiessen with more on that. no answers, the white house cocaine investigation has wrapped up. marc, fox news contributor,

former white house speech writer for president george w. bush and "washington post" columnist. i wanted to get some of that out. you have been in the white house. you've covered lots of things writing for presidents. what would you write for this one? >> first of all, why don't we put the suffolk county police in charge of this cocaine investigation. they have the determination to find out what's going on. secret service gave up after a few days. this is just a complete lack of tenacity. somebody snuck a bag of white powder into the white house. what if it wasn't cocaine? what if it was anthrax or some sort of poison to kill the president of the united states? how can we be satisfied with oh, sorry, shucks, can't figure it out, oh well. spent four days looking into it. can't figure it out. moving on. this is either someone senior at the white house brought this in who by passed the secret service

screening or it got through secret service screening. if that's the case, that's a massive national security issue. a bag of white powder into the west wing yards away from the oval office. i went through that door every day for six years. i had an office in the west wing. i know that place like the back of my hand. this is just a few -- two minute walk from the oval office where this was found. you are telling me it's okay to bring a bag of white powder into the white house and get it through secret service screening and we'll move on? give me a break. >> harris: i've been asking really non-stop. what if it hadn't been cocaine? they evacuated everybody from there. not only for the sakes of a wider public wanting to know that such a secured place on the planet like 1600 pennsylvania avenue is still actually secure, what about all the people who had to leave?

feeling like they didn't know what they were doing. they left under threat. as far as they knew. it was a frightening day. why not take it a little further as far as you can with a full throated push from the president of the united states? the drip, drip on this with the marijuana that was found, not illegal in a wider washington district. no federal building would allow that substance in and it happened twice last year? >> it's exactly right. if it was anthrax do you think they would have stopped the investigation? of course not. the point is it got through. i worked there. only two ways to get to the west executive entrance. that's on west executive avenue, a closed street that is within the white house complex. a place where senior staff park, motor kates come up. if you aren't a member of the senior staff, cabinet official

or president's family to get to the west executive avenue you need to go through a secret service screening post. if you walk into a room you go through a magna -- radiological screening for weapons, dogs for bomb sniffing dogs and the rest. for somebody to have consciously decided to go and bring that into the white house through that, it seems very unlikely. if it did get through, that's a huge national security issue for the united states. >> harris: my dad used to say let's hope it wasn't a trial balloon. people do all sorts of things to poke the bear. it would be helpful if the commander-in-chief to speak on it through karine jean-pierre rather than getting the days wrong when they were in the white house creating confusion. let's move on. a new report suggesting that scientists who publicly down played the covid pandemic

laboratory leak theory as a conspiracy theory privately believed it was true. it was likely one of them appears to be dr. christian anderson, a danish evolutionary biologist who co-authored a research paper published in march of 2020 denounced the lab leak scenario as a conspiracy theory and called it zen fake. he testified at a hearing >> we concluded that it emerged a spillover from an animal host. if you look at the scientific literature, the scientific evidence for this pointing to a single market in the middle of wuhan is overwhelming. i will say again if you look at the scientific evidence. it all points in one direction. the single market in the middle of wuhan in china. >> harris: the daily mail obtained messages from weeks

before his 2020 dismissal of the lab leak theory was published. those messages show anderson telling colleagues the idea was, quote, not some fringe theory and was highly likely the genesis of the pandemic. scientists involved say they changed their minds between sending the messages and writing the paper. your thoughts. >> there is 0 evidence pointing to the wet market, 0. there is 0 evidence pointing to an animal host. they have not found the animal host. not found a bat population that even has the virus to this day years afterwards. there is 0 evidence right now that this came from the natural emergence. think of the principle of the simple answer is usually the right one. this happened to emerge in wuhan, the home of the wuhan institute of virology which was working on bat coronavirus in a bat coronavirus emerged in wuhan

but had nothing to do with the lab. give me a break. the fact is it was -- we know there were conducting gain-of-function research in that lab. we know it was bio safety level two instead of four. three researchers got sick. >> harris: we'll have to cut away. we're now watching. thank you, marc thiessen. on capitol hill the gop led house narrowly passing our nation's defense bill. the house speaker kevin mccarthy. >> we all know they deserve it. radical programs that are forced on our troops in the expense of readiness are now eliminated. cutting edge technology that is essential for the future of this country and to keep freedom around the world in the rise of china and russia, who will receive more investment than we've watched in the past. taxpayers will save more than $40 billion as this bill roots out wasteful spending. the real question you never

asked me that i wish you would, why did the democrats vote no? technically it's a bipartisan vote. four democrats voted with us. are the rest of the democrats against a pay raise for veterans? are they against deterring china for a safe future? are they against rooting out wasteful spending? they all voted against it today. they can claim a lot of things. but the biggest issue they claim why they voted for against they voted for just last year. it's a good thing the republicans are in the majority, but it is more important that we keep our promises to america and to our men and women who serve to defend us. and today is exactly what we did. with that let me call up our leader, leader steve scalise. >> thank you, mr. speaker. good to see all of you here.

today was an important victory for our men and women in uniform who risk their lives to keep us safe and also an important victory for every american in this country that wants to see our military focused on our enemies abroad, not on wokeness and all of the indoctrination attempts you are seeing within the pentagon. there was a massive rebuke of that far least ideology in the push that we've seen under the biden administration. these aren't things that barack obama did when he was president. joe biden has tried to change the focus of our military. what you saw today and over the last week is republicans and democrats coming together to say let's focus on our enemies all around the world. there are still bad actors that want to do us harm and still countries like china who are investing in a different kind of military that we need to be

focused on. as the speaker pointed out, chairman rogers and all the members of the house armed services committee spent weeks and months putting together a bill that refocuses our military on their core mission, the mission that under the constitution we as a congress have an obligation to go out and fulfill and protect and fund. that's what this ndaa does. it refocuses on the real threats to america as a free nation and as the leader of the free world and allows us to get back focused on that role. yes, a shame that democrats walked away from that. it's shame that democrats walked away from a 5% pay raise to our men and women in uniform who deserve it because they wanted to defend the far left woke indoctrination ideology. that's not the focus of the department of defense. i'm proud of what our members did coming together in a difficult time to say let's get

that focus back where it needs to be on defending america and protecting our friends around the world and standing up to the bad actors, which there are and are getting more and more aggressive. we need to be more and more focused. that's what today's vote produced and the gentleman who put together that vote coalition is our whip, mr. emmer. >> first of want to thank the speaker for his leadership. everybody who is up here. want to thank the best chief deputy whip that anybody could have in the entire whip team, and i want to thank our members. i want to thank our members for remembering why they were sent here. sent here to put america first and american's safety and security first. that's exactly what they did today. everybody said this couldn't happen. again, as guy was telling me on the way down here i guess this was your next first big test.

if you think about it, we've had six months now of kevin mccarthy and our house republican majority, speaker mccarthy. if the last six months have proven anything, i hope you are starting to take notice, it is that house republicans get stuff done. this is the group that has been doing the work. we beat the odds time and time again to deliver on our promises to the american people. when the talking heads in washington, i'm not necessarily talking about you folks, but i might be. when the talking heads here in washington insist that we can't pass things, we have proven them wrong every time. and today is no exception. today house republicans led the way in supporting and strengthening our military by passing the 2024 national defense authorization act. the ten either of this are simple. modernize and bolster the military. take care of our men and women in uniform and cut out the woke

garbage the biden administration has forced on our service members. it's a shame as you have heard already that house democrats couldn't put politics aside for one vote. >> harris: we are watching congressman emmer about the national defense bill. their battle was important, too. republicans wanted some. you heard them saying the woke ideology. they wanted some of that out. someone in particular has become rather well-known more than ever this week and that's congressman tuberville of alabama. he really pushed against some of that woke ideology and language that was in there. they took out, by the way, so you know, paying for transgender care and requiring diversity. they also removed a provision that would have dealt with paying for some forms of healthcare for pentagon military

female employees to travel to get abortions. those were things that republicans said there were more than sticking points. as you can tell by the votes count, 219 to 210 that was nearly unanimous republican support for this once they dealt with those issues. on the other side will be senator tuberville, the republican that put up such a put and fight that even the united states responded to him this week said get the ball rolling on pentagon nominations. they still have to consider this bill. reports coming in say democrats aren't quite so sure it is going to pass when it gets to the senate. it might be dead on arrival. nonetheless they have pushed it forward today and this is a big deal. you heard all the things that house speaker was talking about that it does. so we'll continue to cover this and bring you the breaking news as it happens. let's move to this. again on this one, democrats are

not so sure about biden. they don't know if he is actually their candidate now. the latest quote, the conversations keep happening as top democrats and donors reach out to those seen as possible replacement candidates for joe biden. get ready, they urge. despite what he has said, despite the campaign that's announced president joe biden won't actually be running for re-election. that quote from cnn politics, an editorial there. biden's behavior at nato, the trip abroad this week is likely not calming any fears his colleagues on the left have. here he is struggling to hear before snapping at a reporter. >> president biden: i'm sorry, i didn't hear the last part of your question. let me be clear, i didn't say we couldn't guarantee the future. you can't tell me whether you will be able to go home tonight. no one can be sure what they are going to do. >> the white house blamed an echoy room.

about what the words he spoke? one op-ed headline joe biden nato summit gaffes add up to huge clown show. even the liberal "new york times" wrote many of your liberal acquaintances with shh and shame you. speak no ill of joe biden. there is more than ampel room to talk about if he is strong enough to take on the republicans. we have our power panel here. i always love having you guys together. you get into it and such buddies at the end. let's go. doug collins, the president and whispers that they possibly could replace him on the left as a candidate. >> they aren't going to replace him now. they have to come up further. the whispers -- what gets me the most about this, harris, typically you have a president and vice president. if there is something that happens to the president and is vice president was elected the

vice president is the number one candidate to step up and take that role. what is amazing in this whole story is whether biden is stumbling. which he is. numbers aren't good. i have to give credit 72 million is pretty good. that's a lot of cash. but harris, not being included in this to me vice president harris not being included shows me how beyond biden the democrats don't seem to have a way to go. i think that's very telling seeing how she is a sitting vice president and nobody is talking about her being the leading candidate. >> harris: patrick, not to be indelicate but it is not just running for president that has at least medically if you look scientifically any of us, male or female won't live forever. some people are worried she is the vice president. she would step into a role at this point. so who else is there that can step into the role to run other than kamala harris? >> well, that's an academic

question. >> harris: i think gavin newsom doesn't think it is academic. >> a lot of folks and probably i think doug will agree with me there are 50 senators that would be president. >> harris: one doesn't think it's academic, joe manchin of west virginia. >> he will be our nominee. doug even mentioned he raised $72 million in the first quarter, which is 2 to 1 against donald trump, 3-1 against ron desantis. he is on it from 394,000 people, donors, who think he is the right leader for the job. that's important. harris, i think he is -- we know this. he is a work horse, not a show horse. he has stumbles and had a speech impediment and he talked about that. i think we should all show him grace. he has put up numbers for the american people. >> harris: it is not lack of

grace that gets us to ask fair questions about the fitness of a president who tripped over a sandbag and made more news that week than anything else. we have a lot going on around the globe. it is not indelicate to ask the right questions. what might be is to then try to answer them without the facts. we just don't have all the facts. we're trying to get them. instead we get cranky biden when asked questions he doesn't want to answer. doug. >> it sounds like we aren't different than his staff if you believe the reports of the last week that he snaps at them behind the scenes. look, i agree 72 million is a lot of money but it is almost like running a race against yourself. right now democrats have nowhere else to give. they are giving in that regard because he is a sitting president. it is a lot of money, i won't deny that. to try to compare it to the split numbers between very contested republican primary right now and i think it's a little apples and oranges. i think the real problem is with

the democrats actively talking about this and then you have joe manchin going to new hampshire. polls show a third party candidate do it. that's a problem. >> harris: well, you know when you add in the axios reporting and that of others that quietly behind the scenes aides don't want to be alone in a room with him because his temper is so bad. that's human resource material there. anyway, house republicans throwing tough questions at the climate czar john kerry in a hearing yesterday. we took some of that live. here is one tense exchange over his use of a private jet. >> we don't own a private jet. i don't own one. i personally have never owned a private jet and obviously it is pretty stupid to talk about coming in a private jet from the state department up here. it just honestly, that's where you want to go, go there. >> do you stand by the testimony that you've never owned or your family. >> i personally. my wife owned a plane.

>> you flew on that plane. >> not in the number of years. i have flown on it. >> harris: op-ed calls kerry out quote, his being held to account yesterday must have come as a deep shock to him. he had been expecting to sign this country up to international treaties, jet around the world, handing away american sovereignty and all without ever having to face any questions. that family jet putting on miles last year, too. the plane took 48 trips in 2022 emitting 325 metric tons of carbon. here is kerry defending his private jet flights all the way back in 2019. >> if you off set the carbon it's the only choice for somebody like me who is traveling the world to win this battle. >> harris: okay. doug, i will start with you. >> well, i think one of the first things when you have a

problem the way you get out of a hole is quit digging. they own a plane. it travels. so contradictory to what he is trying to do with john kerry. he is not the right face but keep putting him out there. with stuff like that it shows the hypocrisy many times of what's going on many of us feel with the administration. >> harris: did he throw his wife under the bus the -- >> for 2 1/2 years he has been in this position he has been on a private plane one time. testified about that. i do agree with doug. you have to lead by example. it is not just your words but your actions. he said he is taking five military trips on military planes like members of congress do and only taken one private plane in the last 2 1/2 years. i think he learned a lesson and we have to do a lot of work when it comes to climate energy and making america number one when it comes to green energy jobs

here in the united states. >> harris: you will be hard pressed to find somebody on the left now who doesn't prove to be -- filled with hypocrisy on it and maybe they should take an oath. have a good weekend. back to the huge breaking news in that decade-old cold case. more on it now. last night in manhattan police arrested a serial killer suspect wanted in connection with at least 11 murders, he lived on long island. the bodies were found on gilgo beach, long island. between 2010 and 2011. retired inspector paul mauro with this. >> it is one of those cold, cold cases you say to yourself wow, are they ever going to do it? they never gave up on this thing. a lot of people wanted it

solved. >> harris: dr. michael bodin, forensic pathologist. good to have you today. good old fashioned police work. now it will come down to dna evidence potentially. >> it may come back with a lot of different victims but may 2010, shannon gilbert calls 911 that somebody is chasing her and police come and can't find her. they look for her and it's about five months later they find in the oak beach area the four women in the burlap bags. they don't find shannon until a year later when they get shannon gilbert. she is -- the medical examiner determines that the cause of death is undrermd. police say she is not involved in the -- with the same person.

the mom and her attorney john ray contacted me to do a second examination. when i did a second autopsy examination there was a fracture of the hyoid bone. evidence she was strangled and murdered and was part of the perpetrator, what the per pet traitor did. that's still up in the air. the official death of shannon gilbert is still not classified as part of the deaths. the dna, whatever dna was recovered from the four victims and any of the other victims, certainly are going to be matched to the person they just arrested. >> harris: that's fascinating. this is shannon. her family, her mom and attorney reached out to you, can you take a second look, you did. back then they didn't have

forensicly what they will get with this suspect, wrecks, as you just pointed out. what can they get from him? what was there with her that you could use to match whether she was one of the victims or not? i'm certain they will start to look at everything now. >> they are going to see if there is any dna from any of the victims that with the new dna technology can be matched to the suspect. they've matched the suspect, i gather, in the preliminary information to the four burlap bag bodies to this person that they've arrested. largely by telephone. >> harris: he had a burner phone. there was connection ten years ago and they were able to get that. >> it's interesting the way the technology of phones is also what was most important in the four deaths in idaho.

it's an amazing technology being able to match up the calls made from a phone with the owner of the phone. >> harris: in the ways that technology have grown with communications and helping law enforcement, has anything grown forensicly in all of this time? >> i think just the dna -- you can do a lot more work with dna. i don't think they've gotten to that stage yet. i don't know how much dna on the bodies or body clothing. they have the clothing from the victims, are available. >> harris: i was curious about this with this case. the burlap bags might have offered, depending on how much break down there had been, might have offered some extra help to investigators, though. if the bodies were stripped but then put into something, it would at least help capture any evidence. would that help?

>> that might help but they -- i didn't see any announcement of any evidence that dna that had been found up to this point. but the finding the suspect perpetrator now will give them a target of what to look for. >> harris: last quick question. serial killers, we look back over the history of time, and oftentimes people will say they knew this person, this person stood out. the neighbors with the suspect in this case, he has been there for years in that house and people liked him said he was family guy, two kids, a wife. just quickly. >> it's an old story that oftentimes when you find out who the serial murderer is the people around him think that -- have no idea what a nice guy, including the very first serial murderer who the lawyer who

killed a lot of people. >> harris: jeffrey damer you are thinking of? >> no. he was -- his relatives and people he worked with couldn't believe it. >> harris: thank you very much for coming in. appreciate it on this big story. as we reported moments ago the house passed a key defense spending ball including republican amendments taking woke out of our military. it moves on to the senate where its future is not looking very bright. plus a bipartisan push to get nato members to pay up. republican alaska senator dan sullivan with reaction. subway refreshed everything. and now, they're slicing their meats fresh. that's why the new titan turkey is proffered by pros like me. and by pros who can actually dunk, like me. and if we proffer it we know you'll proffer it too. i can dunk if i want to.

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>> harris: breaking news this hour. we've brought it to you and continue now. the house has passed that defense bill earlier. house speaker kevin mccarthy said the focus is on making the lives of the men and women in

uniform better and de-wokeing the military. >> the democrats put their politics before the men and women who serve. they said no to a pay raise. they said no to an investment. they sent the wrong message to our adversaries around the world. >> harris: how conservatives passed the amendment overnight to limit the pentagon's abortion policy. that measure caused outrage on the left with 210 house democrats voting against the bill. republican senator dan sullivan of alaska, member of the house armed services committee is first with me to talk about this. what is at stake and remains at stake? looks like it could be dead in the senate. >> well, you know, the way it works right now we've already passed out of the armed services committee an ndaa for this year.

i'm on that committee. we'll debate it on the senate floor and we'll meet with the house members in conference in the next several weeks to hash out a final bill. but it is really important that the house passed a strong bill. here is the thing. i agree with speaker mccarthy, what the ndaa should be doing and what i spoke us on the senate side, focus on what our military is all about, lethalty. the military is there to protect america's national security interests. that should be the focus of the ndaa. it has been the focus of my time on the armed services committee. >> harris: when i reported on the breaking news i said paid transgender care and required diversity and senator tuberville

of alabama was against that. does that come back in in order to get this done in the senate? how big is the fight at this point for you? >> you know, it's an important fight. we had a lot of amendments in the senate ndaa when he marked it up three weeks ago that focused on some similar issues. remember, in the senate the democrats control that committee. so some of our amendments on those issues did not pass, right? so the conference is going to be the key. there is a broader issue. these kind of social issues take away from our focus on lethal tee. the biggest i'm concerned about is three years in a row the biden administration puts forward defense spending cuts. this is the same this year as well. this is exactly the wrong

message to send to our adversaries, whether it's putin or xi jinping, the current biden budget shrinks the army, navy and marine corps. that's not what we need for america. >> harris: they have room to pay for transgender care and pram to pay for travel for women in the pentagon or serving in the military to travel for abortions. that's the fight as you go forth. i want to get this in real quick. >> that's the fight. >> harris: excuse me, i have to get your quick reaches with nato. no one holding them accountable or holding feet to the fire. soon to be 32 nations, right? and as soon as sweden joins. nobody there for them to pay their fair share. >> yeah. well, listen, harris, i couldn't agree more. i went to the summit and there was some good progress. i will say at this summit with regard to the outcome. but my number one message at the

nato summit the last few days when i was in lithuania was exactly what you said. every world leader that i met with i said hey, here is the issue. all of you have to hit your 2% of gdp for defense spending target. that has been a target >> harris: we can't have it on our dime. i have to let you go. i still keep my promise. i'll come to alaska to meet you in person. >> it is beautiful here right now. >> harris: "outnumbered" after the break. (bobby) my store and my design business? we're exploding. but my old internet, was not letting me run the show. so, we switched to verizon business internet. they have business grade internet, nationwide. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon.

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