here. we've had a good time this morning. pete: have a great saturday. are you going to be here tomorrow? will: i think i'll be here. pete: i'll come back tomorrow. all right, see you guys tomorrow morning. you'll be in montana. we'll find somebody. ♪ ♪ ♪ neil: all right, we've got fox on top of temperatures heading up and inflation cooling down, record temperatures still blazing across the united states this weekend. when will americans feel some relief? and some new signs that shoppers might already be feeling that relief. prices coming down for the 12th straight month, and the trend not just your friend, it could very well be the president's as well. welcome, everybody, neil cavuto. i apologize for my voice. we'll get through this, it'll be

fine. a lot of you will say, neil, don't talk. anyway, we've got more on what's happening on the price front, where are that that's all going down for the time being, but the real trouble for much of the country and up to a third of all americans is this heat wave that's gripping a good part of the country. fox weather's robert ray in galveston, texas, where it's particularly hot. welcome, my friend. >> reporter: neil, good good morning to you. happy weekend, happy saturday. galveston island just off of houston, the gulf of mexico. and look at that, neil, this big seawall, 20-foot seawall, jetting down. it was created after the 1900 hurricane that still killed more people in america than any other natural disaster. it is scorching here this morning. temps expected to be in the mid if 90s, dripping as i speak right now. gulf of mexico temperatures above average, and that is concerning, definitely, as our tropical storm season is about to heat up in august and into

september. ing listen to what one person, a scientist here on the island, told me. >> a multi-week heat wave, or it's supposed to continue at least until the end of the month. water temps are super warm. every year the gulf of mexico is sufficiently warm enough to support hurricanes and tropical storms. the concern this year, if we get something out in the gulf, there's a lot more fuel for rapid intensification. >> reporter: and that's a huge issue, rapid intensification. but also this heat, what is it doing? well, it's stretching the energy. ercot, to who provides all the electricity to so many different people, had their highest volume just this past week. they're stretched. they hope that this heat wave does not shut any of it down. they're working hard to make sure that it does not occur. remember like a few years ago during that winter storm, well, it's the opposite now with the heat, neil. but, yeah, hook at this -- and, by the way, i am cruising across america on fox weather and fox

news. neil, i start two days ago on the atlanta in jacksonville beach, crossing into mexico beach, florida, looking at there. new orleans yesterday, here at galveston island. neil, get this, on thursday i'm going to end up on the pacific association, santa monica pier as we take the pulse of americans as they are scorching, trying to get out of this heat in this blazing summer of '23, neil. neil: you're going to cover it. i don't know where you get your energy, robert. thank you, robert ray. let's go to adam klotz, what we're looking at as far as this widespread heat wave and, of course, some storms to deal with as well. and flooding in other parts of the country. adam. adam: yeah, there's the a ton of stuff going on here. i'll get back to showers in just a moment, but to touch on the heat as well as all of these storms that we're talking about, there's a large area here particularly across the desert southwest, but a lot of folks are feeling the heat. if you're looking for record-breaking heat, that is across the desert southwest.

every one of these little icons could be a record-breaking high. you're talking about in some cases # 17 degrees, # 18 degrees. this is really -- # 118 degrees. the one place where it's going to be cooler is the other side of the country. the showers might knock some of that heat autoof -- out of the air. there is a flood watch continuing to be in place. we know how hard hit parts of new england were over the last week. unfortunately, more rain is on the way. the ground's already saturated, not a lot of places for this to go. a ton of humidity across this region. if you're out and about here, you know it. you feel how sticky and humid it's been. that is going to turn into rain, and suddenly we could be talking about really heavy showers. isolated areas, you start to see some of these orange colors. that's another 3-5 inches. we've already seen a her's worth of rain in system of -- a summer's worth of rain in some of these communities. flooding is going to be a concern. flash flood threat, it's there across portions of new york, but

really look at your forecast for sunday and it becomes likely across new york, across vermont where it's been absolutely awful and over into new hampshire. flooding in areas where they just can't get a break. unfortunately, more is on the way before the reeked -- weekend's over. neil: all right. thank you, i think, adam. we were telling you about the heat wave, but temperatures rising to at least some prices falling, in fact, we've seen 12 straight months right now where inflation has been dipping down, and it's running about a third of the pace it was at its height of more than 9%. i had a chance to catch up with the chairman of the council of economic advisers at the white house, jared bernstein, who's encouraged. >> i think if you and i were out here talking about rates that were 9 and 8 and 7% as opposed to 3%, you'd probably be suggesting that we had something to do with that. so i think when it goes the other way, we've got to be kind of symmetrical there. look, i think -- neil: i don't understand that. i mean, the fact is that the

rates are going up. it's having the corresponding effect of pushing some prices down because demand is hit by that rate rise. >> yeah. so there's no question that the fed is in the mix, but i also was going to tell you if you look at one of the important aspects of where we've seen some real relief for households on the inflation side, it's in the area of goods, okay? so core goods inflation came in, i believe it was a negative sign, slightly declined last month -- neil: you're talking about without volatile food and energy prices, correct? >> yeah. well, i'm actually talking about goods here, so specifically, the things that come through ports. well, if you go back to 2021, president biden stood up the supply-side disruption task force. he recognized right out of the gate that if we were going to help people deal with some of the global inflationary pressures from the pandemic, we were going to have to unsnarl our supply chains. we got to work on that, and our fingerprints are on some of those improvements.

neil: all right. that's in the eye of the beholder. the federal reserve really has brought inflation down, nothing the administration has done. that's not to disparage, you know, jared bernstein and the white house here, but the runup we saw in inflation and prices was addressed by the fed by hiking interest rates, some say too many times. in fact, there's an expectation they're going to do it again at the end of this month. having said all of that, lucas tomlinson on how the administration is running with the trend they say is going to get even better by election day. lucas. >> reporter: that's right. by the way, i heard bernstein talking about the supply side, that was a knock on president reagan's supply-side economic, but i digress. let's face it, if president biden wasn't overseas this week, he probably would have been touting these economic numbers with a big event here at the white house. but as it stands, inflation continues to rise, just at a much more decreased rate. let's take a look at the new numbers that you were talking about, the june number, 3%. the consumer price index down

from a high of 9.1% exactly a year ago, so that's great with news from the white house. but now let's take a look at, you know, you were mentioning inflation's been going down for 12 months. recall though last mercer neil, gas was over $5 nationwide for the first time in u.s. history. the average price of a gallon of unleaded gas, i checked this morning, is now $3.56. but, neil, for all americans prices still remain high. we don't have to tell our viewers that, they feel it every day. it feels like that $100 grocery run costs so much more. in fact, we looked up the food index, that's increased .1% in june after increasing .2% the previous month. the energy index rose .6%. people are going to be blasting their a/c, that's going to cost a lot more. other prices that have been increasing, represent, 8.3%. dining out, 7.7 increase.

car maintenance, 12.7%. car insurance is 16.9%. of course, buying a new car today, neil, i read somewhere this week that only 8% of new car sales are below $30,000. who has the cash right nowed to do that? now, an economic adviser to president biden talked recently about these new inflation numbers. >> americans are starting to really be able to see that at the grocery store, just as you said. i think what is behind it is an economy that is stabilizing at a good, steady rate of growth. >> reporter: now, neil, let's not forget about another key economic indicator, that's the italian sausage index. today a pound of italian sausage costs about $8. that's also increased over the past year. we'll continue to monitor that. neil: it is, indeed. it could get to $80, and i would still buy it. thank you very much, lucas tomlinson. he has a great sense of humor. all right. i want to go to amy barnes on all of this, messenger, chief

white house correspondent. despite those distinctions that lucas pointed out, the fact of the matter is when i talk to administration officials including jared bernstein, the council of economic advisers' chair, he is saying the trend is their friend, and they're jumping on this improvement, 12 straight months of improving inflation numbers and that by election day it's possible we could be back to where we were if not lower. that's what they're hoping anyway, and time is on their side. they've got, you know, they've got some time before the election. what do you think of that? >> well, i think, obviously, they're going to -- and lucas was right, if president biden was in town this week, you would see him taking a rickety lap of sorts. -- victory lap of sources. polls indicate, lots of them, every single one indicates that americans are still sour on the economy. and that is a weak spot for the president. and that's why you see him sort of out trying to tout bidenomics and trying to persuade people that things are working. but, you know, but then again

these big ticket items like buying a house, buying a car have become so unattainable to a vast majority of americans and people are still feeling the groceries, their groceries are still high, gas prices came down but they're still high. you still feel a lot of pain from a lot of people, and people that i've spoken to have anticipated that. and -- indicated that. democrats are worried that while things are trending in the right direction, they're worried about what could happen, another shoe could drop in the fall, and they could be, you know, going sideways again. so it's kind of a touch and go situation for the white house at this point. neil: you know, for now they feel they're in a better position, let's say, than george h.w. bush was in 1992 when he was up against bill clinton and the economy seemed mired in a recession. we later discovered that it was coming out of that recession in the final quarter of 1992, but to your point, americans weren't

feeling it because it was feel novel and new. the fact of the matter is the administration's worried about this trend that will continue when we have time for it to continue, and why the president holds his own in these polls against republican candidates. if he were such a disaster, that would not be the case, if the economy were such a disaster, he would not be polling even or better than the prominent republican candidates. what do you think of that? >> yeah. that's true. but i've also spoken to lots of people who say things were better four years ago, they were better before covid hit. they want things to go back in that direction. that's when they felt a little more comfortable economically. and so the big question will be how does the fall look, how does the early, the first quarter of 2024 look. and it stay, can it stabilize. and how does biden, president biden get out there and explain what has happened, because i think that the white house has had a marketing problem, if you

will, to try to convince voters that it has been trending in the right direction, that this was -- he inherited a kind of flawed economy because of covid and because of the pandemic. neil: right. >> so i think he's going to have to do a better job explaining to voters where people were and where the country is going. and so far i don't think he's succeeding. neil: you know, while i still have you, amy, regarding iowa and the dust-up that donald trump has had with kim reynolds, the governor, because he said she's not really neutral, that she favors ron desantis. be that as it may, he thinks she's ungrateful, doesn't want the see her or know her at any of his rallies or events. other candidates have spoke opinion out on this. this is -- out on this -- spoken out on this. this is nick -- nikki haley and another from tim scott. >> donald trump has attacked kim reynolds, the governor, for not showing more support for him. >> kim reynolds is the best

governor in the country. you can look at her record, you can see it for itself. the idea that he attacked her because he thinks that she favors one candidate or not is silly. >> well, governor kim reynolds is one of the most remarkable individualses in the country, and she's one of the strongest governors. her state, any state has ever seen. neil: all right. a lot of the prominent candidates are taking the iowa governor's side. your quick thoughts on this. >> you know, she is a very strong governor, they're right. and i think the former president might be misfiring here, if you will, because i think that she is popular with iowa voters. it's why you see governor desantis kind of cozying up to her as much as possible. he's hoping that she can help him win. neil: okay. we'll watch close ally. amy, thanks for coming in on a saturday. amy barnes, the messenger chief white house correspondent. by the way, i don't know if it had anything to do with the governor reynolds dust-up, but i want to introduce you to an iowa

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>> no, god! >> no, god, please, no! no! no! no! neil: yes, this has to do with the supreme court originally turning down the president's push to forgive the student loans, because the president is at it again. now, a lot of people say he's well within his rights to try something a little bit different to forget not $430 # billion in student loan debt, but $39

billion. legally, can the president do it? can he do it, mercedes? >> neil, i always love starting my day with you. the short answer, yes. rain initially, it looks like a smackdown to the supreme court, but it's really not if you look at the timeline leading up to this decision. i'm going to walk you through it. back in 2021 there had been an investigation into the income-driven repayment plans, and it was discovered during the independent investigation that there were 4 million borrow ors going back decades that had been promised under these idr, that's the acronym for these repayment plans, that if they pay their loans for 20 years, the government would at that point step in and, of course, they would be forgiven. nothing was done, apparently there had been according to this independent investigation done back in 2021 when the report came out, nothing had been done for those borrowers that were under this process that had already gone and done and paid

these, made these payments, and they had not been forgiven. in fact, when they went to these third party administrators that the government had -- the third party administrators that were actually servicing these loans, they apparently didn't forgive the loan as had been promised to these borrowers and instead forbeared these loans. so those loans just continued to just have interest rates on top of that. so now -- neil: just to be clear, they reignited this, but i notice that this covers the years you qualified for that would coffer the covid period when no one was paying back these loans. that doesn't seem very fair on the surface. what do you think? >> you know, that's a great point, neil, and i really do think at then end of the day, of course, that the white house is saying this is really to do these administrative failures, there's 4 million borrowers, we're going to forgive 800,000. there's another 3.2 million borrowers who are going to say

if you're going to forgive those individuals, we qualify as well. but here's the big difference between the two. why is it the taxpayer? you look at other legal remedies that were available to the government. if it's a third party administrator, at the end of the day, that created this failure, then seek seek redress from them. they had contracts with the government. they said they were going to service these loans appropriately -- neil: why didn't they just push this at the beginning instead of this other one that the supreme court shot down? >> brilliant question. and that's why the critics that are looking at these decisions and say, wait,n't this -- isn't this a little too fishy here? it comes two weeks after the decision. yes, executive orders could be challenged and possibly this could be challenged, but it stands to really a strong argument for the white house if, of course, these are -- reports come forward and they establish it. and secondly, they're going to

challenge it and say the the timing is suspicious as well. neil: we'll watch it closely. we've got general david petraeus here, his thoughts on the fact that we let ukraine know bluntly and clearly no nato membership, at least not now. after this. mr. , -- after this. e've we pull our favorite looks together in-store and in in the app. so it is easy to get the look you want for less. you got this. we got you.

neil: all right, we are just learning right now that israeli leader benjamin netanyahu was taken to the hospital. he was apparently not feeling well, this is coming from us iley media -- israeli media, saying he's fully conscious enroute, he's undergoing an assessment. we don't know much more than that, we'll keep you posted when we get more details. in the meantime, there's this --

>> no one can join nato while a war's going on or a nato nation ising being attacked. because that guarantees that we're at war. >> there is no reason ukraine should not be part of nato. nato has been a 700-year succesy at keeping russia out. >> if we have one of our allies attacked, we will all be in a war. and i think the president is right not to go that far. neil: all right. depends on your point of view or whether you're running for office, what have you. even those running for office, some of them have said that the president made the right choice here. general david petraeus joins us, former cia director, refired -- retired four-star general. general, great having you. what do you think of this, not now with everything that's going on? maybe afterwardsful. >> well, i think, actually, what was agreed was really quite positive for ukraine. it was essentially a pledge to allow accelerated membership in

nato when certain conditions are met. now, that presumably means that it's not in a shooting war with russia which it was, again, just completely unrealistic to think that you could make a country a member of nato that all the nato nations would vote for, essentially, going to war with russia. so, again, i think this was the right decision. i think that the expectations, perhaps the aspirations in kyiv -- and i was just there fife weeks ago, and i was struck by this even when we met with president zelenskyy and others -- that those aspirations were just a bit unrealistic. the idea that you could join nato, again, while you're still in a shooting war with russia. on the other hand, again, there were a lot of positive, other positive elements that came out of the nato summit. they extended the secretary-general for another year, that solved their leadership issue. something very unreported by very significant is they adopted the first true, real strategic campaign plan for the defense of europe since the end of the cold war.

and then you've got a lot of pledges for ukraine, continued support and including the g7, japan joined them. the other six members are nato countries. and then finally, turkey seems to be acceding to the membership of sweden in nato, albeit he won't even submit that to his parliament, president erdogan, for some 90 days. but that is also a positive step. neil: of course, in the case of erdogan, he might have done so because we gave him some fighter jets to smooth that. but leaving that ai'd -- >> that's, he's using this as leverage for that, and that's not done yet. neil: sure, understood. >> that still has to be approved by congress, as i understand it, ask we're using it as leverage as well. neil: okay. >> and also he's trying to lever some additional agreements with the e.u. of course, he's had a longstanding ambition to be an e.u. member. heir just trying to get some measures -- they're just trying to get some measures that are short of that approved in the interim. neil: general, back to this

ukraine, nato in or out that we're waiting for, if we're not wasn'ting to rattle cages in ths in the middle of a war or wait to address this presumably after, then what could explain our looking at providing cluster bombs or that kind of weaponry to the ukrainians that would almost antagonize this war to the point where the russians -- not that that should be something that we base our decisions on -- could say we're not going anywhere, this thing is dragging on forever? >> well, they may not have the ability to do that. of course, what we need to be doing, neil, is providing everything we possibly can, our allies, our other western partners, to enable ukraine to convince putin, in fact, that he will not be able to achieve his objectives on the battlefield, in fact, that this is not a sustainable war. and coupling that, of course, not what we're providing on the battlefield -- cluster munitions, frankly, they're a

significant issue because they're above the threshold of 1% gun rate which is the international standard in an agreement to which we are not a signatory,ish note, nor is ukraine -- neil: to that point -- sorry, general. i'm losing my voice here, but that's what a lot of people interpreted. if you want to, you know, stir the hornets' nest here, providing those type of munitions whether warranted or not is not going to conclude this anytime soon. what do you think? >> i think it's actually quite a significant addition to the arsenal of the ukrainians. i support the decision. keep in mind that russia's been using cluster munitions all along. actually, ukraine reportedly has been using those provided by turkey. the russian ones have a much higher dud rate, so this is not, if you will, virgin soil that is now going to for the first time have duds on it. and the dud rate is below 2.5%, so it is not extraordinary. and it will be very, very helpful to the ukrainians as they carry out this -- they've

adapted their strategy, neil. they've found that the kind of rapid maneuver combined arms operations just are not possible in the south in particular where the russians have been establishing belts of defensive lines for many, many months. they've dug in tank traps, there are mine fields of anti-personnel and anti-tank minds, there's concertina wire. there are dragons teeth and other obstacles and fortifications and, of course, russian troops in trenches, all of that would call on russian artilleryly that is used to suppress and attack the ukrainians when their trying to breach these obstacles. the the ukrainians now are deliberately conducting a variety of precision attacks to reduce the russians' capabilities, attacking their fuel depots, their logistical sites, their headquarters, their reserve force assembly areas, their artillery pieces and then even the troops in the trenches. and these cluster bombs are

very, very helpful for that, so i agree with that decision. neil: all right. we'll see how it turns out. always good seeing you, general. thank you very much. >> great to be with you, neil. neil: we're going to get the ready on all of this from the ukrainian ambassador to the united states. in the meantime, updating you on the actors' and writers' strike. the last time we saw something like this was 60 years ago. that a one went on a while. what about this one? after thisan d. i can be free to do the things that i love to do. i hope when i retire someday, they say, that guy made this place a special place to come to school and gave as much as he could to help the community. -oh, hi! -you're in a hurry. i'm off to america's best i heard what you said about not overpaying for glasses.

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neil: we are speaking on behalf of workers all across the nation and around the world. the eyes of workers are upon us. what is decided in this strike and this negotiation is going to impact everybody. and if we don't take control of this situation from these greedy megalo maniacs, we are all going to be in threat of losing our livelihoods. neil: all right, it's on, actors joining writers right now in hollywood on a strike that could go on for some time. it's all about those revenues and to who gets them and how they're shared. fox entertainment reporter, michelle, what's the latest betting on this? because it's obviously going to us us are disrupt all, you know, shows and the rest, production is stymied. it could even stall movies planned on coming in the next few months. >> first of all, neil, thanks for having me on. a huge fan of yours. i think we're in a moment of

seismic sea change. we are not going to go back to the hollywood that we grew up watching. i don't think that's ever going to come back. in fact, this is a seismic sea change moment in hollywood. i know plenty of writers and actors, their heels are dug in. when i watched fran, and i've been reporting on this story for, since the beginning, fran drescher in the beginning thought they were good because they were talking about peripheral issues, and she was like, oh, i think we're going to do this. i think we're going to hash out a deal. [laughter] and then when she came out this week and, you know, called them, like, greedy megalo maniacs in that clip, she said these are the land barons of medieval times -- [laughter] neil: it doesn't help your cause, right in. >> no. i think that she is, to me, she

looked like somebody who's been in a marriage and has been gaslit for the last 30 years. neil: so what is this really about? i know they're worried about a.i., everyone is worried about this is going to take over our jobs, what have you. do they want some guarantees about that? do they want more revenue for streaming? that was something that wasn't even around, or leapt alone the internet back in 1960 #, so what and how will this likely be resolved, if ever? [laughter] >> that's -- i don't, i don't see it resolving. i really don't. i think,ing i think this is really the precipice of change. we are watching out unfold -- it unfold before our eyes. there's to things that they want, they want more pay, and they want control over their image. that's what they care about, and they should. they want control over their words, and these studios are not budging. and that's why fran drescher, i

think she looks like she's in shock and she's saying these things because they are in shock. i know people that are in the room negotiating, and they are saying the same things to me. they are in shock that the studios are not giving up, number one, money and, number two, control over their image and their words. so i really think, like, we're going to see something extraordinary happen. i think that we're going to see, hike, studios like angel studios, yeah, angel studios will rise. other studios, you know, angel studios made the sound of freedom. small studios, they will rise, and you will see that happen. but i think we're in the midst of a great sea change. neil: interesting. i guess it's that old line, be careful what you wish for. michelle, great job. thank you so much. >> you got it. neil: i want to go to joe piscopo. if you think about it, joe is an

actor, a writer and a host, an snl cast member ec stroard their, also writer, also, as i said, someone who's got a view of both sides. first of all, where are you, joe? >> neil, i am at the jon bon jovi let's stop in the grate state of new jersey. and i got pulled over. i thought i'd be -- i'm going down the shore off of long beach island with my son. but it's neil cavuto, and like michelle said, we're all big fans. so i'm standing in a parking lot. neil, could you call governor murphy, get me my own rest stop please? that's what i'm waiting for. neil: give it time. you deserve that. [laughter] you know, i'm wondering, you know, you just heard from michelle, joe, just saying, you know, this might be easier said than done for the actors and/or writers to get their way on this because, you know, the studios are very, very, you know, concerned themselves about their

financial futures, and a lot of them are curtailing and laying off people. so the environment is not super hospitable right now. what do you think? >> i think that this is a blue collar issue. these, these actors that we're trying to protect, these writers that we're trying to protect -- and i stand behind the sag-aftra, i stand behind the writers' guild, and these aren't the stores. and we appreciate matt damon, george clooney and fran drescher's doing a great job as the president of sag. but these are the actors like myself. i always say i'm in the blue collar of show business. we're working stiffs. we're not in the a-list. hey, you know, in hollywood i'm not even on the wait list, okay? so it's like -- neil: i beg, i beg to differ with that. [laughter] i beg to differ, but complete that thought. >> it's a work issue. it's a blue collar issue. these are the folks that don't work all the time who maybe you see them on the street you go, hey, didn't i see that guy in a film? that's who we are protecting.

it's inexcusable, what corporate america is doing in these times, the tenor of these times is to slam the middle class. you were talking about the economy earlier. it's tough going down the shore putting the gas in the car, charging up the electricity. everything is so much more expensive. it's not just the actors and the writers, it's the middle class of america that we're talking about here, boss. neil: says the man who's going to the shore in what looks like a $2,000 suit, but i'll buy it. [laughter] i'm kidding. but, joe, could i get your take on this artificial intelligence thing that seems to rattle a lot of folks? >> yeah, yeah. neil: and that's what a lot of these writers are fearing because, you know, they can do a script for a show -- >> right. neil: they do this very quickly, and they adapt to change their errors very quickly. >> yeah. neil: i'm just wondering that in the background is more than just the background. it could be the whole enchilada. >> yeah, no, that's a great point, and i think -- i bet you the corporations are working on it right now.

i bet you the big ones are working on it right now and they say, wait a minute, we don't need actors or writers. it's going to happen to all of us. when i struck back in '86 when sag went with on strike, they told us about the internet. they said, oh, the internet, that's just a fly-by thing. that'll never grow into anything. it's just the internet. i get resinge walls from the writers' guild now for $1.20, for $4 because we gave away the internet. we have to stand fast now because this a.i. is something that's going to take away jobs. and, again, it's not the actors. it's not the writers, oh, those writers. this is about blue collar, middle class, working america. neil: all right. we'll watch it closely. enjoy the beach, my friend. you are an iconic figure in this country, we love you. joe piscopo, he could be right, this could drag on a while. they are very, very far apart although i've covered auto strikes and the rest, and they always settle it. they settled it 60 years ago,

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in the meantime, they say the thing about serial killers is they can run from justice for many, many years. in some cases decades. but not this time, not in long island, new york, where rex heuermann has been taken in by authorities, wanted right now in the deaths of at least three women, could be as many as eleven individuals. c.b. cotton has more from maas pee what park, new york. >> reporter: prosecutors say they had to a stay one step ahead of rex heuermann so no one else got killed. the suburban dad and architect had recently searched for explicit pornography and sex workers according to investigators. >> one of the reasons why we had to take this case down was we learned that the defendant was using these alternate identities and these alternate instruments to continue to patronize sex workers. which which, of course, made us very nervous.

>> reporter: heuermann was arrested thursday night not far from his manhattan office. friday he pleaded not guilty to charges in the killing of three women with. he's the prime suspect in a fourth murder too according to prosecutors, and police say they're looking for more evidence that could link heuermann to more killingsing. the gilgo beach murders have been an unsolved mystery for years, and there's never been a suspect publicly named until now. back in 2010 when police searched for missing 23-year-old shannon gilbert with, officers discovered the bodies of four other women. melissa, maureen maynard barnes and amber lynn costello. the women were identified as sex workers. their remains were found within a quarter mile stretch of gilgo beach back in 2010, but in total ten sets of remains were found between 2010 and 2011. investigators say back in january of this year, heuermann's dna was collected on pizza crust linking him to the

murders. prosecutors say heuermann was also link to the killings by burner phones allegedly used to arrange meetings with some of the victims. >> whenever the target phones would bounce off a cell tower, if the heuermann personal phone bounced off a tower, it was always consistent and in close proximity with the target phones. >> reporter: heuermann is being held without bail. his next court date is august 1st and, neil, i also want to mention we are in front of his home at this hour. investigators continue to do their work. obviously, there's a lot of public in this case. you've got neighbors out here, other people who have come by to watch because, as you mentioned, this is an accused serial killer who was living in plain sight. back to you. neil: you know, c.b., he was an architect, right in he was well moan in the community, kind of respected in his new york offices. do we know anything more about

his professional life? >> reporter: yeah. yeah, you know, he was an esteemed architect, and there's actually some videos that have been circulating online where he discusses his work and his passion about it. and, you know, we've talked to a few neighbors out here on scene, and no one suspecting something like this. they say that heuermann and his family really went under the radar. they didn't interact with too many people, but a lot of people just never thought he'd be accused of something like this. obviously, we have heard about the gilgo beach murders over the past decade. people wondering if -- wondered if anyone would ever be held accountable. and, you know, this week is definitely a moment of reckoning for so many people about the type of evil that can lurk around you. neil: incredible. great reporting on this, c.b., thank you very much. c.b. cotton. want to go to bill daley, former finishing b irk investigator. bill, what do you think? they're the figuring in these three murders, possibly four. but, again, there are many more than that, up to eleven including a man and a toddler, i

understand. what do you think thus far? >> oh, so far, neil, it goes to show you that tenacity that it takes to go to catch these serial killers. i'll also say it's also a convergence right now of big data and forensics. so going back to when the bodies were first discovered over a decade ago, some of the techniques that law enforcement had whether from tracking cell phone information, being able to look at those dig beta -- big data sents and sort through those as well as looking forensically at dna evidence and collecting that and preserving it. it's advanced. it's the culmination of good, on the ground detective work as well as this nexus of forensics. i'd also like to say, neil, this is a case that we've seen over the years kind of go, seemed to go cold, it was kind of a cold case for a while, and only in the past year with a new police commissioner in suffolk county, new york, did he reenvision ratt

investigation, even brought back some detectives who had retired and brought fresh blood. it's really good gum shoe work on the ground. neil: no doubt. you know, bill, i was thinking maybe with the exception famously of jack the ripper back in, you know, 1800s loan london, you know, these guys, you know, they can run. they can't hide forever. it might take years, might take decades, but some things unresolved with the boston strangler, you know, with jeffrey dahmer, ted bundy. but they are eventually caught because they tripped up somewhere. what do you think? >> well, exactly right. tripped up somewhere, and and as i just mentioned before, some of the kind of early trip-ups may not have been noticed because we didn't have the forensic capability to kind of slug through like they just talked about a few minutes ago about burner phones and his cell phones and kind of cojoining

those and where they might be at one place and one time. and also today, neil, a reflection of good, corporate i work -- cooperative work. new york state police, suffolk county, the fbi was involved. the fbi had assisted in gathering evidence a couple of years ago, and i understand they were also involved in kind of this big data analysis with regard to cell phones. so i think in today's day it's not too -- it's very difficult for someone to not leave some type of footprint whether physically, electronically or biologically. and, hopefully, kind of relieves some people who may be falsely convicted as well as find those people who are responsible for such heinous crimes as this. neil: you know, we're learning a little bit that, you know, his online hasn'ts. he was compulsively searching for images of the victims and their families. we're told separately that he taunted one of the families. depictions of women getting

brutally -- i'll just leave it at that, brutally treated. and then he was soliciting separately sex workers. so what drew them to him? i mean, if not for the pizza box, would this have happened? >> well, i think the pizza box was really just kind of that final nail in identifying him as the suspect. it appears as though it was this analysis of cell phone data and pinging off of towers, and they seem to be kind of co-locating both the burner phones that he had as well as his personal phone in and around the same places whether it's in and around massapequa, whether it happened to be down at the gilgo beach with area or manhattan where his offices are. all of those things kind of came into with place. it is also i say coincidental, but also probably a bit suspect the fact that he was not too far away, very much familiar with the area -- neil: right. >> where he was living was only a causeway away from where the

bodies were found along that barrier island along ocean road between jones beach and cat tree on long eye land. so it's between the ocean and the bay for people who don't know the area, but it also is a place that we can see some of these images here, it can be quite harsh. especially if we're talking about victims, finding evidence. there's scrub brush, there's reeds, there's wet marshland area, and those can be, certainly, degenerate forensic capabilities. as perhaps it was early on 10 plus years ago but advances have certainly helped this case draw to a conclusion including, as you just suggested, gathering maybe that kind of final piece of forensic evidence needed from that pizza box that was left on fifth avenue not too far away from where you're sitting, neil, today where police were able to gather iting take that piece and analyze it. neil: just amazing. bill daley, thank you very much. former fbi investigator.

we'll keep you updated on new revelations and how they're trying to link this guy to these other individuals, 11 that we know of, but there could be more dating killings that go back to 1996 even though some of the bodies weren't found until 2010. stay with us, more after this. switch to a king suite- or book a silent retreat. silent retreat? oh! hold up! earn big with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? ...

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