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latter part that president zelenskyy, excuse me, did not really flip over. he wants to be in n.a.t.o. right now and of course, that's not happening. lucas tomlinson at the white house with more, lucas. >> let's go back how the week started. president zelenskyy was angry and fired off a tweet he was angry there was not much more concrete steps to join n.a.t.o. we heard president biden language without a firm date and president biden later spoke in helsinki and hinted the war could be over soon. >> the answer is, putin has already lost the war and my hope and expectation that ukraine makes significant progress on their offensive and that it generates a negotiated settlement somewhere along the line. >> the best possible solution would be some sort of negotiated settlement, as you heard the president talk about, but everybody realizes, dana, that's not possible right now. >> some u.s. officials privately called this war a

stalemate. the front lines have not changed significantly, neil, since last november, despite billions of dollars in western arms and ammunition, mostly from the united states. russia still occupies, as you can see here, about 20% of ukraine. president biden's call for negotiated settlement likely to irk many ukrainian officials who don't want to settle, they want total victory, 1991 borders, they want crimea back and everything in the east and all russians out and president zelenskyy spoke things up after patching things up in lithuania with that summit. >> i'm confident that after the war, ukraine will be in -- will be to go everything possible to make it happen. >> but experts say this is why putin wants to prolong the war, neil. he knows if the war ends, ukraine will join n.a.t.o. and there's a lot of echoes from the summit going back to 2008 in bucharest when he wanted ukraine and georgia to enter

n.a.t.o. what happened, putin invaded georgia, and then ukraine. putin knows as long as there are russians soldiers in these countries that they will not join n.a.t.o. neil: thank you for that. i had a chance to talk to karen pierce, the british ambassador of the united states on this subject. she thinks this sort of middle ground is the proper ground. take a look. >> i think this is actually a good result. fundamentally, what n.a.t.o. has said is that ukraine's future lies in n.a.t.o. ukraine has to meet all the conditions that any n.a.t.o. member or aspirent member would have to meet and n.a.t.o. would not admit a new member and by virtue, n.a.t.o. is not fighting russia, n.a.t.o. is

supporting ukraine to defend itself against russia. neil: all right. so it's going to happen, it's just not going to happen right now. we've got another ambassador with us, the ukrainian ambassador to the united states, oxana on the phone. >> thank you for having me. neil: what do you think, n.a.t.o. is coming, it's just not happening now. >> n.a.t.o. said it's going to happen. we understand it's a process. we understand all of our allies have to be in agreement, and let's focus on the very important milestones that this was able to generate, the creation of ukraine n.a.t.o. council and a give us certainly and path how to move forward and also, the g7 statement which already a number of countries have joined. yes, we're not in n.a.t.o. yet, but majority of ukrainians

support it and n.a.t.o. shared. and as for the european union we'll do the reforms in order to get closer to it and hopefully that moment will be faster rather than later, but the focus now is to win the war. the focus now is to with the russians are doing everywhere and to liberate all of our lands and our people. neil: so, ambassador, if the administration is saying you have to wait until this is resolved, our administration, you know, obviously president zelenskyy wasn't pleased with that, but the flip side is it keeps putin there a while and it's another incentive for him to stay because as soon as russian troops go, presumably, you know, n.a.t.o. membership happens. do you think it could backfire on n.a.t.o., this decision? >> well, first of all, i think you know, president putin invited us into 2022 because he

wanted to invade us, because he has the crazy idea of restoring the soviet union, the russian empire, whatever he has in mind, you know? it's not because of n.a.t.o. and it's not n.a.t.o. enlargement, it's us and other free countries that want to be part of the n.a.t.o. family. so in 2008 he just mentioned this in the program, when president bush to be in n.a.t.o., it's not giving us membership action plan that then emboldened putin, the other way around. so, i think we have to understand that they don't -- the buffer zone, you know is no longer valid. you're either part of the club of civilized nations or you are in dictator ship, very small club like iran, belarus and

other countries. i think we have to focus on what our priorities are. our priority for ukraine is to win this fight now, and then in the future to join n.a.t.o. and become european union member, but also, i think it's a priority for all civilized world, you have to show and this is our fight. >> you know, ambassador, do you ever worry that n.a.t.o. resolve is not what it was or might not be what it was, that a lot of countries are giving second thoughts aid in terms of armaments they provide you and how much money they send you and even in our country, in the united states a push among some, not all, to conservatives to say it's not worth it. what do you think of that? >> well, honestly, i feel very great support, from american people especially here from president, but on a strong

bipartisan basis a lot of time talking to a number of people. i think majority of people understand what the fight is all about and a blatant violation of international law, has to be. this war criminal should not be allowed to win in ukraine and also not allowed to embolden other dictators on the planet and support, if anything i feel more people supporting us and believe me, ukrainians are very grateful for their support. we understand that, you know, we are fighting at the front lines with our people who are dying from the missiles and our president leading the nation for this, but we would not be able to do it without unbelievable support from our allies and especially from the united states. neil: all right.

ambassador. we'll see what happens, very good seeing you again. >> absolutely. have a great weekend, thank you. neil: you, too. and we're getting a few more details on israeli leader benjamin netanyahu in an israeli hospital, benbethshiba hospital. and a named official close to netanyahu that the leader fainted at home, but was fully conscious at the hospital and getting to a hospital. another hospital news site quoted officials say that netanyahu was indeed conscious and walking on his own, getting to the hospital. he's getting some tests and treatment right now and could not confirm disparate reports. he's at 73, israel's longest serving leader, multiple stretching over 15 years in office. they're checking him out.

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>> it is an understatement to say it's hot outside for close to one out of three americans in the path of this very hot weather. it's not going to ease up either. robert ray of galveston, texas has more. robert. >> yeah, good morning to you, neil. walking the seawall here on galveston island. the seawall created after the 1900 hurricane that killed thousands of people, still the deadliest natural disaster in american history and i'm taking the pulse of americans going cross country from the atlantic to the pacific. i'm midway through my journey, what's the hot topic? yeah, it's the hot weather of course. over 93 million americans are under the scorching sun and the energy grid. my goodness, take a look at some of the numbers as to what they're going through right now. they're hitting all-time peaks, unfortunately urcot is and

potentially the six-day supply and demand dashboard showing an all-time peak demand record this coming week. the temperatures on the gulf of very warm and what does that do for hurricanes and tropical storms? well, it increases them. let's listen to how one scientist is talking about how some folks are reacting and readying. >> we've had a multi-week heatwave, supposed to continue until the end of the month and water temperature warm off the texas coast and upper 80's. every year, the gulf of mexico here along the upper texas coast is sufficiently warm enough for hurricanes and tropical storms. the concern this year out in the gulf a lot more fuel for rapid intensification. >> rapid intensification is a huge worry with the water temps being high and the system gets in there, the energy from the counter clock wise feeds off the temperatures and bam,

intensification into a strong hurricane like what we saw last year year with hurricane ian, let's hope not. i'll continue on, headed to san antonio reporting will live tomorrow. the end of this week i'll end up on the coastal pacific ocean, l.a., santa monica pier, taking the pulse of america. neil: you're a machine, my friend. robert ray. robert was talking about compromising the grid and the phase outs across the country. neil, it's good to have you, you wonder about the demand with the ev's and the hot weather. the utilities are stretched kind of to the limit. are we ready for this? >> we are going to face some challenges. look, there's no question that as we electrify more and more in society, it's going to put

increased pressure on utilities to manage the surge in demand. and the challenge to maintaining reliability is that we've been injecting politics into something that engineers used to be in charge of, our resource mix, our resource adequacy. we're shutting down plants that we need to keep the air conditioning on in situations like this, to meet political objectives and it could ultimately put american lives at risk. neil: you know, i believe in california not too long ago when they had a bit of a heatwave themselves, compromised grid system, the governor was recommending charge your electric vehicle fully or limit the amount of time you're at an ev charging station. i would imagine developments like this complicate that. i'm not talking just in california, i'm talking everywhere. how do you prioritize it? >> yeah, look, this is a real conundrum for regulators and policy makers, you know,

extreme weather events, whether it be extreme heat in the summer, or extreme cold in the winter, being driven by climate change are going to put pressure on the grid. in order to combat that, that means we're going to be more and more dependent on weather dependent resources and that's a really complicated equation that engineers should be in charge of prioritizing, not politicians. the problem in california was that the governor there, gavin newsom decided he was going to dictate what plants would shut down and the end result was their grid got pushed to the brink because the political actors made the calls not the engineers. neil: so if this heatwave goes on much longer to your point, neil, we're going to have some tough choices. >> that's the challenge. people use innocuous terms like curtailment. it sounds easy and inoffensive.

what curtailment means you can cool your house to 78 degrees and no cooler. well, that might sound reasonable, not when it's 100 plus degrees outside. this is the united states of america. we shouldn't be put in a position where we're having to make those kinds of choices. resource adequacy and reliability are something that we have taken for granted for too long and i'm hoping that these weather events reprioritize the focus on reliability. >> and part of reliability is to make sure you don't get hacked and a number of utilities have gotten hacked, right? >> well, that's a new reality that all of us in the energy world now have to live with is that energy infrastructure is increasingly a target for cyber and physical threats and we've all got to be smart and work together to stay ahead of our adversaries because people understand, if you can take out energy infrastructure, if you can disrupt the energy system, you can really cause a lot of

damage. neil: that's already happening as we speak. neil, thank you very much, thank you for being on. >> thank you for having me. neil: we're learning a little bit more about the guy the police say was behind all of these killings in long island, new york that cover many, many years, decades. someone said he's a demon that walks among us and those are the kind of descriptions after this. veteran homeowners, want to lower your monthly payments and get cash? with a home loan from newday, take out an average of $70,000, pay off debts and high rate credit cards, and save hundreds every month. our ears connect us to the moments that matter. give them the nutrients they need with lipo. it's formulated with ingredients clinically shown to protect your ears from dizziness, ear ringing, and even hearing loss. never miss a moment with lipo flavonoid.

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>> well, you know by now he's been charged with the murder of at least three women. there could be many more as they start to unearth the mystery around one rex heuermann. the latest from alexandria hoff. >> well, neil, it turns out that rex heuermann had been a radar on the fbi, the cell

phone tower pings, his wife's hair and pizza box. he worked as an architect, but lived for all of those years just across the bay from the island where women known as the gilgo four were found within days of each other back in 2010. heuermann faces multiple life sentences for the murder of amber lynn costello, melissa, and meghan, and a suspect in the killing of maureen barnes. the married father of two-entered the courtroom yesterday and pleaded not guilty. >> i heard the district attorney outline his case and i'll say to you folks that it's extremely circumstantial in nature. in terms of speaking to my client the only thing he said as he he was in tears. i did not do this. >> police say that heuermann's

dna was found on the pizza crust, that matched on one of the victims. and a strand of his wife's hair had been found. you can see the crime labs hard at work and his cars, cell phone as well as, and that's plural, cell phones, he would using several burners. they're pulling out everything they can. here is the suffolk dna. >> we can tell that the cell phones were used in a constrained area in massapequa park and in one of these a chevy avalanche was used and not only did he live in that massapequa park area, but worked in the midtown manhattan

area. now we have a suspect. >> the case is far from closed. shortly after the gilgo four were found, six more bodies were uncovered in the same area in 2011 and police have long suspected they were not just looking for one killer. neil: thank you for that, andrea. alexandria. and looking at the border, do you think it's under control, my next guest says not close. what he's discovered with his own cameras to enlighten us. republican carlos jimenez, good to see you. >> good to see, neil. how are you. neil: i'm fine. tell us what you covered. >> we went between the border between colombia and panama, thousands of venezuelans are pouring into the jungles of panama. the venezuelans are paying

colombian cartels to take them to the jungles, they're going into the village, 1500 to 2,000 migrants a day mostly from venezuelan and the panamanian government ships them over to the west with the border of costa rica is and let them go, let them go on the way to the united states. since i speak spanish, i spoke to many of these migrants and you know, where were they going? they're going to the united states, either to chicago, minnesota, a lot of them are staying in texas, but throughout the united states and the reason they're going is because they feel that they have a really, really good chance of getting through the border and staying in the united states. neil: so whatever calm we have now, congressman, it's going to be short-lived if you're right. by the time, you know, maybe these people move northward. i don't know how long that could be. we could be right back in the thick of things? >> oh, yeah.

look, right now it's a lull because it's the rainy season and difficult to make that journey and look, if you look at the jungles of panama. i can't believe these people actually go through there and hack their way through or walk their way through and saw many kids with cuts and bruises and all kinds-- they're not in good shape when they get through the jungles and then end up in these indigenous villages in the jungle right along river banks and they're flooding these indigenous villages, but the panamanian authorities there are processing them, 1500, 2,000 a day, mostly from venezuela. neil: i had a chance to catch up with your colleague henry cuellar and he cited problems from other countries, some you might not suspect. >> when you look at asylum cases percentage-wise you know who gets the largest grants of

asylum cases granted? chinese individuals. it's not central americans or it's not, you know, south americans, it's folks from chinese. i looked at the numbers, the last thing we want to do is wake up and realize that the chinese are right across the border and again, i'll say it, they are right across the border right now. neil: what do you think of that? >> well, i think that what's happening is, you're going to see mostly venezuelans there at the border between panama and colombia because that's the closest place to venezuela. but as you go further north you're going to have different folks coming in, a bunch of cubans through nicaragua and mexico. people from the middle east and china probably pouring right in through mexico itself and so, there's all of these folks, it's like a river, a tributary to a major river going through mexico coming from different directions, but they're all coming. by the way, neil, this is like the rainy season down there. so they expect this to increase

as the weather starts to dry up and you're going to see more and more of these migrants especially from venezuela coming through, more cubans, more chinese and more people from everywhere around the world. i did run into somebody from nigeria there. neil: wow. >> and he told me that he came from -- he landed in ecuador and he was making his way through. there were some haitians coming through from brazil as they were making their way up, but they all had one thing in common, they're all coming here, all coming to the united states of america. neil: they all want to be here to your point. congressman, thank you very much. congressman gimenez. and a story of a democrat who wants to be a republican. and a republican backing donald trump who now wants to back ron desantis next. 're age 50 to 8, and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget, remember the three ps.

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>> all right. in iowa, i don't know whether it had to do with donald trump's tiff right now with the iowa governor, kim reynolds, but one thing changed in the process. jeff, an iowa state senate republican moved from supporting donald trump to supporting right now ron desantis. he joins us for this live meeting. senator, good to have you. why did you do this? >> good morning, neil. thanks for having me. a long time listener, first time caller. yes, i heard you in the intro

mention it. the true social post went out monday and was forwarded to me actually during a drive up from des moines to our district for our special session and you know, it weighed heavily on my mind and really had three hours on the drive up here to think about that and kind of set things in motion. neil: all right. when you say set it in motion, you heard what the president had said, the former president about kim reynolds he's angry at here not showing more respect and gratitude to him that she's playing this role of a neutral observer as the caucuses, you know, are being, you know, staged ahead of the actual caucuses in six months and he doesn't like that and ripped her a new one and doesn't want to invite her to any of his events. what did you think of that. >> rightly so, she remains neutral. iowa is the first in nation for the caucus and she said from the start she's never wavered

from that and no other governor in the history has ever wavered in that to remain neutral. so, she's justified in her actions in doing that, you know, and there was a-- i think, some scheduling conflict, some communication issues, but you know, to burn that bridge and i've come to know governor reynolds over the last three years. my fiancee, renee, attends her church and has known her for 10 years, and known not only what an outstanding person, but governor she is and we kind of gritted our teeth and shook our heads from some of the comments from the former president. this time when we're attacking somebody that we know ourselves, it was just like i said, a bridge too far. neil: have you heard from the former president? did you tell him that you were going to do this? >> not reached out to him. i've never had that direct

conduit. i did let some representatives here in the state know my thoughts and asked, you know, them what communicated. neil: what was their reaction? >> i don't want to speculate on, you know, they knew and they understood and they had reached out and they did communicate their -- our mutual concern and knew how popular our governor is. she's one of the most beloved governors in the nation and you know, she won by 20 points this time. so, she's just doing great things, has great initiatives, great republican initiatives going here. so they did communicate my thoughts and that, you know, went from there. neil: okay. you talk about 20 points and one of the polls i've seen, senator, in your state, that's about the margin, the lead that donald trump has now over the rest of the republican field.

do you think that that can stay? >> yeah, that's -- i've just seen the poll and you're correct. there's a lot of time now between now and the primary and i did this to support governor desantis, you know, from the comments he said. it felt like a personal attack on our governor and so it wasn't -- it was to make a statement that-- yes. neil: the reason that i mentioned it, she is supposed to be impartial. she has said she's impartial, but a lot of people who follow what's going on in your state say she is very much leaning to governor desantis, has attended some events with him, i believe. so, is donald trump technically right on that? >> you know, i think with the president he has a lot more constraints on what he can visit, how many times he can show up and what he's able to do because of the secret service requirements.

you know, we were at an event yesterday that the president did not attend, former president trump did not attend. had he attended, that entire room would have had to be screened in an entirely different way so there are additional constraints that limit his visits to iowa and to reach out, but, you know, the same time, they haven't had as many events. there was one canceled here i think that governor desantis was able to take advantage of and capitalize on by showing up. we had some bad weather that night. neil: are you worried, senator, i'm sorry, sir, but are you worried that donald trump is saying, you know, ron desantis is folding fast. ken griffin, a big g.o.p. mega donor might be rethinking his backing of ron desantis and some say that his best political performance is behind him now, he's falling fast. so did you hook up with a guy who could end up being a loser? >> that's not my concern.

my concern was, you know, my honor and commitment to my personal honor and then my commitment to my governor. so, i just-- i had to act when it became personal and attack on our state and on our governor. so that was my thinking. it wasn't looking at the polls or, you know, i'm not a prognosticator, i'm not going to determine who is going to come out on top at the end of the primary and you know, we'll be there to support whoever does come out the other side after the iowa primary, but you know, we need to have a unified party. we need to have everybody pulling and rowing in the same direction, i say, so we can have a strong performance next november. neil: i understand just to be clear-- >> i'll be on the ballot as well so we need a strong ticket. neil: you read my mind. if donald trump wins the caucuses or is eventually the nominee, you will support him? >> yeah, i'm going to support

the republican nominee. neil: got it, all right. senator, thank you very much. very good talking to you. >> thank you so much for having me. neil: all right. i want to move to the peach state right now, dramatic developments, a georgia state representative switched from being a democrat to joining the republican party joins me on the phone. mesha mainor, good to have you. why did you do this? >> thank you for having me. i did it, really, because the democrats put their heels in the sand on some key issues that are important not only to me, but also to my constituents. one being parent choice or school choice to public safety, three, victim rights. this last session they were for prosecutors over families that have been victimized so those three things are the most recent things. neil: this has been out there for a while. what was the tipping point for you? >> you know, when you have a colleague that-- multiple colleagues that put

money up on social media up to $1,000 saying please, anybody, i don't care who you are, vote against my colleague, we would rather have you than her, that probably was the number one tipping point, but this has been something going on for years. there's an article out in one of our local newspapers that goes into more detail about that, but this was not an overnight decision. neil: you know, there's a lot of back and forth in georgia, of course. it was, when you lost the two senate seats, not you specifically, but the state's republican party. there was a lot of second guessing, even down to the president, donald trump, at the time losing georgia to joe biden. are you satisfied with those results that they were legit in your eyes or you feel as the president does at the time that that was not accurate, that that was not a reflection of the real vote in georgia? >> i think it's clear that

we've done multiple investigations, you know, at the state level and the results are the results. our president that we currently have is the president, so i support, you know, how the people of georgia voted. i will say that in 2024 there's going to be another election and people need to get out there and vote again. neil: will you support whoever your party's nominee is for president? >> i will support whoever my party's nominee is and i hope that the people of america will support me by going to mesha mainor.com. neil: well-played. well done. that would include donald trump. if he's the nominee, you would support him. >> if, yes, i will support whoever the nominee is. neil: got it. >> we have 12 candidates right now, i will support whoever the republican nominee is.

neil: because as you know, and i'm not telling you something you don't know, there's still an investigation and we're waiting for maybe what could be follow up attack lines against the former president that he interfered in the georgia recount. what do you think of that? >> you know, that's interesting. so the prosecutor oversight bill actually was a lot about, you know, the media made that about donald trump. the fulton county d.a., she went on air saying that this prosecutor oversight bill was about her and race, when in actuality this prosecutor oversight bill was one of the first bills that i signed onto in 2021 before there was any mention of an indictment, which is why i supported victim rights over prosecutors. so that's my answer. neil: got it. got it. all right. representative, thank you. let's see how things go for you now as a republican. always good seeing you. hearing you. >> thank you so much. neil: thank you very much for that. in the meantime, kids are back

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>> well, it's enough to make you sick, kids might be out of school right now, but post covid their test scores are hurting. come this fall when they go back, they don't promise to look any better. jonathan serrie has more. >> hi, neil. the study was conducted by newa, the school research group. they looked at test scores 6.7 million students grades three through eight. they found that the gains fell short of pre-pandemic levels in most grades and the last year, even though most students were back in physical classrooms, progress stalled. researchers estimate the average student would need additional 4.1 months of

reading instruction and 4.5 months of math to catch up. >> and a lot of us hope the magic bullet was just get kids back in the classroom. what we're seeing is much like carrying a debt with compounding interest, by failing to remediate and get kids caught back up in previous years we're now seeing that the toll from the pandemic is impeding kids' ability and progress in the current year. >> although the study takes a nonpartisan tone, republicans are pointing fingers at teachers unions which helped shape public policy. the two leading unions 66 million dollars to democratic or liberal causes in 2020 and democrats share of the union's political contributions rose from 97.8% that year to 99.6% in 2022. >> this is a massive, massive problem that is affecting all of america and we've got to get focused on it. we've got to put parents first and reestablish excellence or we're going to lose a whole

generation of children. >> nwea says there's no single solution, but schools need multi-layered approaches and monitor local data to make sure they're working and parents need to be kept in the loop with frequent updates on their children's progress. neil. neil: thank you for that, jonathan serrie. the good news is we're still spending and don't the amazon prime sales prove it. it's how we're managing that spending that's worrying some folks after this. ♪ expensive. we're outlawing golf. wait. can i still play? since we work with emower, we don't have to worry about planning for a third kid. you can still play golf... sometimes. take control of your financial future to empower what's next. your wyndham is waiting... to help you check things off your bucket list... ...and his. with 24 trusted brands by wyndham to choose from, your wyndham is waiting.

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>> all right. we're spending, but i get the readings of some economists, 12.7 billion in the two-day

amazon prime event. a lot of that was slapped on plastic. don't know whether that's a good thing. what do you think? >> it's worrying, neil. also not just being slapped on plastic, it's slapped on the new plastic. nearly a billion of that 12.7 that you talked about went on to buy now, pay later, which isn't traditional credit cards, it's a different newer kind of credit and the jury is out how well that works for the consumer right now. neil: still, scott. that's a win that the administration says the economy is back and that's good so far. what do you think? >> they do, neil. life in plastic is pretty fantastic these days because the economy is growing. the economy is recovering. a lot of us when we spend we put things on plastic as ann mentioned, maybe a slightly different buy now, pay later segment. the reality there's force and economies in the future here that come to play when you think about how your future is going to look and the fact that you do go out and put things on credit and go out and back in the day put things on lay-away

when i was a young boy and my parents did that with respect to the outlook for your personal situation. the economy is better and pentup demand. there's roughly 10 million jobs according to your favorite survey and folks are relatively optimistic and think maybe they should be. >> maybe that's reflected in the markets. we had the major averages up, and i believe the nasdaq is up north of 35% this year. do you buy this rally? >> you know, neil. i think we need to unpack who is rally is helping and what we mean by who the economic growth is benefitting. if you look at who is getting hit hardest the most right now, it is folks who are getting hit hard by core inflation, it means if you're paying rent as a home owner, you're feeling a lot of pain. if you're still dependent on getting your essential spending out there on things like health care, you're feeling a lot of pain and missing inflation

there. and it's to a privileged part of the u.s., socioeconomic groupings and i think we're seeing a tale of two cities, the have and the have-notes. neil: the fed, whether they're going to increase rates, i think it's seeming to be a given, a quarter point or-- >> better not. working in the economy and inflation down 3, 4%, that's not too bad and i think that ann is right. this is a k-shaped economy, some are going up, some are going down, but the fed taking a break will help the debtors, it will help the folks actually putting things on credit card and putting things on buy now pay later because those rates of financing those purchasing will come down if the fed gets a clue and stops. neil: and it's early in the season and the banks pretty much will beat expectations, but i'm worried that we had three banks that went belly up in the quarter. is that it, ann?

can we get past this? or what do you think? >> neil, i think it's important to keep that top of mind. what we saw with the banks going belly up. yes, esoteric in terms of the client base which is concentrated. but really, it's a sign that rising inflation rates is quickly-- sorry, interest rates as quickly as we've seen it do have unpredictable risks and some we haven't seen the full impact. you've touched on it. consensus we'll see 5.37% the end of q1, 2024. the everyday consumer paying more on your auto loans, paying more on your credit cards, and we're going to see, i think, that impact come through later than expected. neil: and i wanted to provide folks an update on bengjamin netanyahu. we're learning he's in a hospital after fainting at home. we're told that he spent friday near the sea of galilee where the temperatures were north of

100 degrees, that he was feeling dizzy and the better part of caution and valor was to get in the hospital, walk on his own power and they're examining him now. we'll continue getting updates from israel the status of that, of course, israel's longest serving prime minister over multiple terms, 15 years in power if you add them all up. fox continues. my retirement funds allow me to enjoy what i love to do. as long as you can make an impact, why stop? - [female narrator] five billion people lack access to safe surgery. thousands of children are suffering and dying from treatable causes. for 40 years,

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>> this is a fox news alert. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has been rushed to the hospital according to his office. netanyahu is in good condition and being treated at a hospital near tel aviv. welcome to fox news live. i'm aishah hasnie. hi, griff. griff: hi, aishah. i'm griff jenkins. 73-year-old netanyahu is israel's longest leader. 15 years in office. and kitty logan has the latest. >> hi,