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rain in an hour. >> bill: it canceled or delayed hundreds of flights around the country. thousands of homes and businesses waking up without power and dozens of roads closed to traffic. >> dana: fox weather's katie burns is live in bucks county. >> it is an urgent scene on the ground here. we have seen dozens and dozens of fire trucks, all kinds of equipment pass us with boats and everything they may need to find these two little kids that remain missing right now. what happened was the rain moved in so quickly that people in their cars felt like they had no choice but to get out of their cars and escape the floodwater by foot. those two kids were in one of the stranded cars with their family when it happened. the family is visiting here in pennsylvania from charleston, south carolina. when the water moved in so quickly the road actually got submerged in feet of water from a nearby creek that hugged the

road. the dad grabbed his 4-year-old son and they escaped the floodwaters. the mom and grandmother went to get the 9-month-old baby boy and his 2-year-old big sister and all swept away. search crews found the mom's body. grandmother found. she survived but two kids are still missing right now and search crews of nearly 100 have been working through more rain to find them. we're hearing some scary survival stories as well from when it happened. this man was on a motorcycle ride with his daughter and they grabbed to anything they could to keep from washing away. >> huge gush of water just came down from 532. down the hill. as it was come down cars were starting to float, tried to survive. laid on our backs. grabbed trees and vines and grabbing whatever we could to stay afloat. >> help held on long enough for

search crews to rescue them. dry conditions today. it will help search efforts. this is the road the family was driving on in saturday. this area got seven inches of rain within 45 minutes. we expect an update from officials right now. hopefully we'll have more information soon. bill and dana. >> dana: katie burn, thank you for that. we'll keep an eye on it. the 2024 money war after the release of presidential campaign fundraising reports for the second quarter. which candidates are swimming in cash and which ones are growing a little desperate? rich edson at the white house crunching the numbers. hi, rich. >> campaigns are doing the campaign thing touting their numbers. no different at the white house. the biden campaign effort says it pulled in $72 million from april through june. the second quarter. the accounting gets tricky. that 72 million you look at is for the campaign and associated groups like supported super

boxed and state parties. similar accounting for former president trump has his campaign efforts raising $35 million in half that time the desantis campaign raised $20 million. pac supporting him has raised $130 million since march. in a statement the biden campaign says there is no hiding the stunning and embarrassing lack of enthusiasm for the republican candidates running for president. president biden and vice president harris significantly outraised the entire gop field last quartz. not only are the republican candidates raising less money than team biden but spending more competing against each other in a bruising primary contest. biden's fundraising efforts says it raised more than $10 million from small donations. in 2012 the bam campaign raised double that in small donation. desantis campaign cut ten staff

to help reduce operating expenses. his campaign is on solid footing, he says. >> interesting they talk about some of this campaign process. we were 5 1/2 weeks as a candidate in the second quarter for fundraising. we raised more money than joe biden did in the second quarter. >> for republicans it's about the overall money and the number of donors. you need 40,000 individual donors to make that debate stage next month for the first republican debate. several are still looking for that number. dana, back to you. >> dana: rich edson, thank you. >> bill: marc thiessen, former speech writer for president bush. show you a few numbers here. not apples to apples entirely but pretty close, right? biden $72 million total. as compared to the same time with donald trump at $105 million as compared to barack obama at the same time with

$85.6 million. how does it stack up for you? >> he is trailing both trump and obama from the start but here is the difference. doesn't cost a lot of money to run a basement campaign in the west wing. he spent $1 million on campaign expenses in the last quarter. compare that to the other candidates running to try to challenge him. he doesn't need a lot of money in comparison to the republicans who are campaigning. >> dana: what did you think of the numbers when it looks, for example, ron desantis. he has a lot of money but spending a lot of money and making changes to his campaign. >> he raised $20 million in the quarter. trump raised $17. slightly better. pretty much on par. his super pac has $130 million. that's an enormous war chest that he has at his disposal. he is in a dominant position financially. he is trailing trump still. he is stuck in the 20s.

and then the single digit candidates raised single millions, what you would expect where they are now. this field is still -- this is still early, dana. the first debate is more than a month away. no one casts a ballot for six months in january. we're in the preseason right now. the games haven't started. it is basically the field is trump has half the vote of the republicans. the other half is divided amongst a bunch of other candidates with ron desantis at 20% and the rest fighting for the rest. the question is the same today as it was at the start of the primary. can one candidate emerge to be the challenger to donald trump? if one candidate emerges we have a race. if one candidate doesn't emerge, donald trump is the nominee. >> bill: strikes me that small dollar donors matter. individual voters. here is the headline caught our attention over the weekend from the "wall street journal." it frames the entire election in

2024. the election is a fight over america's way of life. that's the headline. i will read one line from it. voters on both sides fearing not just the loss of political influence but the destruction of their way of life. democrats say the gop culture war is a backlash against greater acceptance of the nation's growing diversity, which is long overdue in america. gop voters are asking two main things of candidates. do you understand that we're on the verge of losing our country? and can we trust you to fight back? it was a great piece. really captures the essence of both sides and what they feel is on the line. what did you make of it? >> yeah. the stakes are enormously high in this election. it's the culture, it's whether parents will be in charge of their children's education and raising their children or not. a lot of issues at stake. it is important for republicans to look at in a clear-eyed way

saying who is the candidate in the best position to defeat joe biden and the democrats? there is a rallying -- donald trump was in the mid 40s before the indictments came. it is understandable people think he is under attack and want to rally around him but ask themselves is this election about avenging donald trump or about pushing back and saving our culture and our economy and saving the upward mobility and all the things we hold dear? there is a lot at stake. i can't imagine -- joe biden is going to be -- would be 86 at the end of the second term. if you look at the tables of the social security administration, the average american male has a 42% chance of reaching age 85. that means kamala harris could be the president, you know, who is less popular than he is. this is high-stakes stuff. republicans need to look at this objectively and see who is the best candidate to take on the

democrats in the poll? >> dana: marc thiessen, thank you so much. something on small dollars that i learned last week that's interesting. it is affecting republicans and democrats. inflation. because inflation put them in a position of not having that extra 50 bucks, 20 bucks, 100 bucks to send to a candidate. if that gets better in this economy both sides could see small dollar improvement. >> bill: mark mentioned the debate. five weeks and two days away. i think the math is right. maybe it's five weeks and three days. it is wednesday, august 23rd, live in milwaukee, wisconsin. we'll be there for a couple of days and it will all go down then. stay tuned. ten minutes past. here in new york police have confiscated apparently dozens of guns from the expected gilgo beach serial killer. they searched his home for

evidence on sunday. rex heuermann charged with three counts of murder on the death of three women and the prime suspect in a fourth killing. investigators say he had legal permits for 92 guns. we'll talk to the suffolk county d.a. coming up. there are many questions we have for him about how they got here and where they go next. >> dana: and what was the break in the case? we'll talk more about that as well. also an escaped murder suspect is now back in custody after a nine-day manhunt. the story from last week. it was in pennsylvania. police catching him hours after a couple spotted him in their backyard when they looked for the reason why their dog was barking. the fugitive broke out of jail july 6th. no word if he will face additional charges for escaping the jail. >> bill: we learn more about the missing alabama woman who safely

returned home over the weekend. carley russell. she vanished on thursday after calling 911 reporting a toddler walking down the side of the highway. police later found her car and cell phone but no sign of her or that toddler. russell says she was kidnapped and her boyfriend said she was fighting for her life to 48 hours. there is more to that story and we'll get to it today. homes under evacuation. train going off the rails outside philly. >> dana: a new setback for vp. explosions. >> bill: america's closest ally in the middle east under attack yet again from the far left. a vicious slur against israel forcing other democrats to run for a bit of cover on this monday morning. >> i want you to know that we have been fighting to make it

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>> dana: a train carrying hazardous materials derailed near philadelphia earlier this morning. as many as 20 cars believed to be carry hazardous material went

off the rails. the cause of the derailment is still unknown. people living near the tracks were forced to evacuate. there are no injuries and officials say no known danger to the public at this time. we'll keep an eye on it. >> bill: overseas now the war grinds on. russia blames ukraine from deadly explosions that rocked a giant bridge that connects russia and crimea. this is a bridge that putin helped make sure was built. it is one of the largest in all of europe. a massive hole in the bridge used to supply putin's troops in crimea. alex hogan is live with more now. hello. >> hi, bill. it is important to remind our viewers how crucial of a corridor this bridge is for russian forces as it connects the crimean pennsylvania to russian. not the first time it was attacked. the bridge is partially closed after the blast went off early this morning just before dawn. the blast killing at least two

people, a man and woman whose or fanned child was in the car. she survived with serious injuries. russia blames ukraine. ukrainian officials call it a russian provocation. an attack in october temporarily closed the bridge as well. after a week of diplomatic endometriosis -- in reaction to the cluster munitions that arrived in ukraine. vladimir putin warned that if ukraine decides to use these weapons moscow would take reciprocal action. a spokesperson is warning russia will not extend the grain deal brokered last summer by the united nations and turkey that allows shipments of grain to leave ukrainian ports until russia's shipment demands are met as well. this deal insured departing ships wouldn't be attacked.

after the invasion began blocked grain shipments caused food prices around the world to soar and pushed nations in africa, middle east and parts of asia closer to devastating levels of hunger. on top of that russia has been shipping record volumes of wheat. turkish presidented began says his foreign minister will speak with his russian counterpart in hopes of brokering this deal and continuing it just given the massive global implications. >> bill: something to watch. alex hogan, live in london. thank you. >> every day across our nation we feel and see the impact of the climate crisis. we finally at least in our progress came to the point people can no longer deny it because it's so obvious. it is clear that the clock is not only ticking, it is banging. and we must act. >> dana: vp harris raising more

crime at crisis alarm. the next guest says don't panic yet. a visiting fellow at the hoover institute. the headline in the "wall street journal" that caught my attention called this. hottest days ever? don't believe it. average global temperature is a meaningless measure in comparison to 125,000 years ago. there is no doubt it is hot here in the u.s. and europe is feeling a little bit of it, too. how do you keep it in context? >> well, dana, there are two things you need to remember. first of all, global warming is real and because we're seeing increasing temperatures you would also expect more heat waves but first. people are suggesting that in order to avoid that impact of higher temperatures, we will reaseam the whole global infrastructure that will cost hundreds of trillions of dollars and possibly will not happen. yet that would have no impact over the next couple of decades.

the way to fix it is people gets' lots of air conditioning and afford the energy they will run it on. the second one is to remember that yes, there are many people dying from heat but many, many more people dying from cold. in the u.s. 20,000 people die from heat. but 170,000 people die from cold according to the best estimates from a journal. how do you help people that die from the cold? have sufficient energy that's cheap and available. let's make sure we get this in context. there is a problem. we aren't fixing it right and we're forgetting the much larger problem of cold. >> dana: the southwest there is major heat wave. mid atlantic has had a lot of rain and having a lot of impact. for the all the money going toward reducing greenhouse gas

emissions what about money to go what you are suggesting. in order to deal with the heat wave you need to have abundant affordable energy to keep people cool. on the other side what sort of things should the world be doing to invest to prevent flood damage? >> obviously you need better infrastructure. you will see more heavy downpours with global warming. there is a problem but people are suggesting no, let's fix it in the most costful way that is not going to help in the next couple of decades. it doesn't mean we shouldn't in the long run try to fix global warming. the way you fix it is through innovation. green energy innovation. focus more on that. much cheaper and the way we have solved our problems. in the short run it's about infrastructure. better sewers, bigger sewers so you can handle it. don't pave over entire cities.

for heat waves give them air conditioning and again we have a lot of people who can't afford air conditioning and that can't afford to run their air conditioner. that's true for heating in the winter. we need to recognize if you want to save people, much cheaper and effective ways to do that first. >> dana: is there a country in the world, a region of the world you think is doing adaptation or preparation better than others? >> i would love to be able to show someone. look, there are a lot of countries that do pretty well and for instance for infrastructure a lot of europe is trying to take some action and they are setting up new standards and true for parts of the u.s. you need to ask for better standards, better building standards when the infrastructure turns over you have more resilient structure. remember, a lot of infrastructure stands for 100 years. you need to invest in reshaping that whole infrastructure.

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>> dana: horrifying police ambush in fargo, north dakota. a gunman opened fire on three ophth officers as they responded to a routine traffic accident. what happened here? william la jeunesse has more. >> still no motive on why friday afternoon that gunman opened fire on three fargo officers during a minor car crash. witnesses say 37-year-old mohammed was in a bank parking lot nearby and opened his trunk, pulled a rifle and began shooting. >> they were working on the road earlier and i heard -- i thought it was the road work going on. go out there, cops everywhere. i saw a cop running with an ar, you know, full combat style. saw a couple of bodies laying on the floor and i was like oh, this got serious. >> the cop was zach robinson,

rolled up and killed the gunman. two officers are in critical condition but a rookie died sworn in three months ago. he was previously deployed in afghanistan and iraq. here you will hear him describe why he joined the fargo police department. >> my desire to serve comes directly from the purpose behind my job every day. i don't want to sit in an office wondering why i'm here every day. i want to be out doing something i can tell myself at the end of the day i made a difference. >> memorial was planned for later this week. a third person, 25-year-old woman was caught in the crossfire. she is in fair condition. >> our officers performed admirably and i'm very proud of them. for their actions, quick thinking, and calmness under fire. >> the f.b.i. is investigating,

dana. evidence has been pulled from the shooter's apartment. there are some reports locally he may have had a run-in previously with police but we don't know what role it played. >> dana: a tragic story. >> the justice department has a deadline of 5:00 tomorrow to hand over dock nullities in the hunter biden tax investigation. jason smith out of missouri is with me now. good morning to you and thank you for your time. you sent a letter friday to the a.g. requesting transcripts of the whistleblower testimony to be included in court for hunter biden's plea hearing. his plea hearing is the end of july. do you think the judge will include this and why do you think it's important? >> well, the letter goes to the attorney general garland and the prosecutor, mr. weiss, that they would include that in the court records so the judge can look at this information. you are talking about over 15 hours of information came

through these two i.r.s. investigators that are whistleblowers detailing some very egregious crimes. felony counts from 2014 to 2019 tax years. we feel like the judge needs all the information in making the decision. >> bill: okay. so let's take your side of the argument here. if the judge had this information, how would it influence the judge's ultimate decision? >> well, bill, surely we do not live in a two-tier judicial system. just because your last name is biden you shouldn't be treated differently. the 15 hours of testimony from the two i.r.s. investigators showed numerous examples where the department of justice delayed the prosecution of hunter biden to the degree that the tax crimes of 2014, 2015 statute of limitations expired, which the i.r.s. investigators

testified that he should have been charged with several felonies. in the plea agreement that was presented to hunter biden, it shows tax crimes of misdemeanors. most average americans if they would have committed these crimes that were alleged by the whistleblowers would definitely face jail time. >> bill: is this garland's call to include it or not? >> that's exactly what we're trying to find out. it is definitely his call to include it and why we sent the letter to them and also prosecutor weiss. either one have the authorities because they're parties in the criminal plea agreement that they could allow it. i hope that they do the right thing. i would hope to believe they would want the judge to know. >> bill: in cases like this, is it normal to do this so a judge has all this in front of them? >> it is very normal for a judge to see all the information in cases in the past to see whether a plea agreement is adequate or

deficient. it is also done for the best interest of the country. i would say in this case, it is for the best interest of the country. >> bill: what does it tell you if garland and shh or weiss don't do what you want? >> it says they might have something that they are trying to hide. i think we need all the information out there. we need the judge to have every bit of information that we received from the i.r.s. investigators that were part of this case for five plus years. they need all the facts. >> bill: last question. the 26th of july is the court appearance for hunter biden. what is your deadline tomorrow? >> our deadline is whether the attorney general of the united states or prosecutor weiss will voluntarily submit this information into the record for the judge to see. if they don't -- >> bill: you've seen how they have responded to you so far. do you think it happens? >> if they don't, there are other action we can look into.

we'll use every tool in the tool box to make sure that justice is provided to the american public and that all americans are treated the same regardless if their last name is biden. >> bill: thank you for your time. the republican from missouri represents southeastern missouri and in washington today. thank you for your time and see what happens by tomorrow. thank you. >> thanks, bill. >> dana reads sports. >> dana: bill, there is a new king at wimbledon. carlos alcaraz defeated djokovic. the world's most prestigious tennis tournament. heading into the final djokovic had won 45 machines in a row. the longest winning streak in 99 years. the last time he lost on center court was 2013. alcaraz at that point was just ten years old. it was an amazing match. now i know more about tennis it

is more fun to watch. >> bill: you are taking lessons because you know sports. how much of that match did you watch? >> dana: all of it. >> bill: i caught four sets. what struck me the most, both of these gentlemen were gentlemen in their speeches on center court. >> dana: what is with djokovic breaking tennis rackets? you know? >> bill: i'll grant you that. bam. >> dana: that's not appropriate. >> bill: he gave the rocket to a fan sitting in the front row. >> dana: i bet that guy keeps that. it didn't rain there. rained here, though. >> bill: house republicans going after anthony fauci on the origins of covid again. what they say fauci said in emails. >> i don't need to see oscar's toes as work. he looks like he got off the

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>> i want you to know that >> dana: representative jayapal is facing intense backlash for good reason. they made this statement against israel. >> i want you to know that we have been fighting to make it clear that israel is a racist state. the palestinian people deserve self-determination and autonomy. that the dream -- that the dream of a two-state solution is slipping away from us. >> dana: she made the remarks after pro-palestinian demonstrators disrupted a panel discussion she was speaking at. in addition to a group of jewish house democrats, party leaders are rebuking her remarks countering her. jayapal is walking back her comments, which i think this is a pattern that you see over and over again. they make the comments. walk them back and obviously we didn't mean that and it happens again two months later. >> bill: i would expect it to

come again. >> dana: like clockwork. >> bill: dr. fauci flip-flopping on covid origin theories. telling the american people one thing but emails saying something different. a special house panel digging into the claims and how they led to censorship. chad pergram following the bouncing ball. >> the committee probing the start of the pandemic says fauci wrote an email saying wuhan scientists were engaged in gain-of-function research but long contended the outbreak started in nature. >> lab leak was it a natural occurrence in the market. the data accumulating become more and more compelling that the origin was from the wuhan wet market because of animals that should not have been there in the first place. >> in a february 2020 email he wrote there is suspicion this

mutation was intentionally inserted and why the committee wants more information from the department of health and human services. the gop wants to know why fauci would only state covid began naturally and not in a lab. >> you have dr. fauci, who knows gain-of-function research was going on in wuhan. but then he goes to push the narrative, even so far as to put down the lab leak theory, which we saw in an email. dr. collins telling dr. fauci saying we have to do more to put it down. he goes on the white house lawn and says it came from nature. >> robert f. kennedy junior appears before a another committee thursday on pandemic censorship. they have questions about overall censorship. >> well, i think there is plenty of scientists will tell you there was censorship. things got censored on social media, etc.

and it was called a conspiracy theory and attack on those who felt there was a lab leak. >> kennedy drew criticism over the weekend. he says jews and chinese are most immune and drew a sharp rebuke from house minority leader hakeem jeffries. >> bill: more to come on that certainly on the hill. >> dana: a selfie attempt causing a massive pile-up in the middle of the tour de france. >> it is the front line that goes down and he takes out 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, at least ten riders and maybe more. >> dana: so awful. the second time in three years a fan hoping to get their slice of the action leads to chaos for the year's biggest cycling race. fox news contributor guy benson and carley shimkus. who goes first today? you could take a picture in your

mind's eye. >> this race is 2,223 miles long and takes three weeks to complete. these people are in peak condition. physically they train their lives and you have a knucklehead on the sidelines sticking their sign into the race or their cell phone trying to get a selfie. i think it was last year or the year before the woman had a sign and because she wasn't pay attention she caused a pile-up. one of the riders broke both of his arms. so this is another example of people just being too into their phones or too interthemselves that they could cause somebody to get seriously hurt. >> everybody has their phone out along the route. a lot of people trying to get a selfie and it hit the handlebars. the american went down first saying there was a narrowing in the town. a spectator in the road and he clipped my handlebars. i'm okay and hopefully the other guys in the crash are all right. it's not ideal.

>> a classy statement. perhaps some understatement from that rider. it looks like this person is leaning out into on coming traffic with his back to the on coming traffic to take a shot up the other direction or more likely of himself with other bikes behind. look where i am and then you cause this and you ruin the day, the month, the year of a bunch of people. what a stupid, mindless thing to do. thoughtless. >> dana: i want to get your take on this, too. they put thought into this at the "wall street journal." what is appropriate attire for men at the office? specifically for men at the office. we'll do a quiz here with you guys and see what you think. the question, number one, which piece of jewelry is the least appropriate for men in the office? what do you think the survey would say or what do you think? >> i think earrings are the least appropriate. >> i would say chain necklace.

>> me, too. >> what does the survey say? let's see. earrings. >> bill: go ahead. >> dana: which shoe is the least appropriate for men in the office? >> open toed sandals. >> no toes. >> if crocks were on the list i would go with that. >> never wear open toed sandals. the survey says no sandals. third one is this. which clothing article is the least appropriate for men? branded baseball hat, shorts or graphic t-shirt? >> shorts or graphic t? i don't know if i want to see thighs. i'll say shorts. >> bill: really, it's the calf but short. >> i will wear a baseball cap if

i'm only doing radio. >> shorts. >> dana: it's a graphic t-shirt. >> concerned about the math there. a lot of percentages there. it's all inappropriate apparently. >> dana: just wear a suit. follow guy benson. >> if you were out there. >> bill: let me ask you something. have you seen a man on staff in this entire building, 44 stories tall wear shorts in the office? >> only if you work in silicon valley or something like that. >> bill: or working at home behind the computer. thanks for playing. >> i love that. >> bill: we have wonderful parting gifts. come back. >> dana: you'll find out in the commercial break. >> bill: all right. seven minutes before the hour. who is this alleged serial

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financial well-being to me is knowing that i can be free to do the things that i love to do. i hope when i retire someday, they say, that guy made this place a special place to come to school and gave as much as he could to help the community. >> dana: the family of a woman killed during a late night boat crash agreed to a $15 million settlement with alex murdaugh. 19-year-old mallory was thrown from the boat when it crashed into a bridge in 2019. murdaugh's son, paul, was believed to have been driving the boat when he was drunk. it comes to a conclusion. >> biden administration announcing a plan to bail out billions of dollars in student

debt weeks after the supreme court ruled a separate program unconstitutional. what's the distinction now? it hits older americans. hillary vaughn is tracking it down on capitol hill. the story broke on friday. what do we know about it now? good morning. >> good morning, bill. that's $39 billion that the federal government was counting on getting back from loans ultimately backed by u.s. taxpayers. this loan forgiveness going to 800,000 people goes to those who have federal loans owned directly by the education department and who are participating in income-driven repayment plans. republicans are blasting the move as another last-ditch effort by the biden administration to pay off people's debt after the supreme court rejected his larger plan. this plan to let people off the hook is happening while the u.s. government is taking on billions of debt and drowning in the

interest of paying off that debt. the committee for responsible federal judgment saying the u.s. federal government is taking on $5 billion in debt a day and warning of the consequences. we're on track to have interest be the single largest line item in the budget by 2051. larger than the two current biggest programs, social security and medicare with debt shattering records and interest payments set to dominate the entire budget by mid century. we're running off the railings at an alarming rate. democrats say it will pay dividends in other ways. >> those dollars go right back into the economy when you are able to free up the debt that many of those college graduates have. president biden is making a huge investment in this country because he understands the value of standing up for working-class people. >> but bill, working class people a lot of them rely on social security which expert