debt. the committee for responsible federal judgment saying the u.s. federal government is taking on $5 billion in debt a day and warning of the consequences. we're on track to have interest be the single largest line item in the budget by 2051. larger than the two current biggest programs, social security and medicare with debt shattering records and interest payments set to dominate the entire budget by mid century. we're running off the railings at an alarming rate. democrats say it will pay dividends in other ways. >> those dollars go right back into the economy when you are able to free up the debt that many of those college graduates have. president biden is making a huge investment in this country because he understands the value of standing up for working-class people. >> but bill, working class people a lot of them rely on social security which experts

say will run out of money in ten years. this $39 billion might go a long way towards that, bill. >> bill: hillary vaughn watching it from the hill. see where it goes. thanks. >> dana: police investigating a serial killer collecting new evidence as they try to prove a married father with two children is really a monster who got his kicks killing women, dumping their bodies in a remote area along gilgo beach on the south shore of long island. i'm dana perino. good morning. >> bill: weekend was good? solid? >> dana: yes. this news broke on friday when we were together. >> bill: on our minds all weekend, too. i'm bill hemmer. good morning. a suspected serial killer behind bars. investigators say it's only the beginning. police searching a storage unit tied to the suspect after retrieving truck loads of evidence from his home. rex heuermann, age 59, is charged with murdering three women whose remains were found within yards of each other in a

beach nearby his home dumped on the side of the road along the beach and also the prime suspect in the death of a fourth woman found nearby. >> dana: police are working to tie him to seven other bodies found in the nearby area. neighbor says her mother, who once visited his home, described the inside as a filthy mess. >> which is very decrepit and hoarder-like. not somewhere you want to live nicely. he acted very intelligent. he knew the words to say, do i have to lock my doors again? this is acquaint little town. we come together as family and community. >> bill: suffolk county d.a. says the evidence is solid and will answer our questions in a moment. first to the news and nate foye who reports outside the suspect's home in massapequa park, long island. nate, good morning. >> bill and dana, good morning. the fourth straight day investigators have been at rex heuermann's home related to the

killing. the fox drone is looking at the house where he lived with his wife and two children and over the weekend we saw investigators remove a live child-like doll and multiple guns from the home. not the only focus of the investigation. a short drive away from where we are investigators are searching a storage facility for any evidence tying heuermann to the murders, all this comes after his arrest on thursday night. you see the 59-year-old architect leaving work in mid town manhattan after 8:30 p.m. as he is walking down fifth avenue he is confronted by a group of detectives in plain clothes and they take him into custody. detectives connected him to three murders by matching dna from pizza crust he threw away to material found on all woman's body. it helped investigators 0 in on him.

the 59-year-old is charged with murdering three women who worked ass courts in 2009 and 2010 and a prime suspect in another killing. 11 bodies were found in the bay. live in one case prosecutors say he used a victim's cell phone to call her younger sister and torment her about the killing. he has pleaded not guilty and held without bail. send it back to you, bill. >> bill: nate, thank you. nate foye on long island. >> dana: joining us now is suffolk county district attorney. what was the real break in the case the task force achieved that led you to him? >> i think what was real important was march 14, 2022, when we were able to link the avalanche truck to the defendant and not only that, but that was

with relation to the last murder, amber costello. there was also a physical description that matched the defendant. and that as well as the phone usage, which linked heuermann to his house in massapequa as well as his business in mid town manhattan. that really was the start of our interest. >> dana: the truck had been there before, right? >> the witnesses had indicated that this person that they described as a very large individual was with amber costello shortly before she disappeared and he was driving this avalanche vehicle. it wasn't until march 14th of 2022 we were able to link an avalanche vehicle to rex heuermann who matched the description. >> bill: the woman who gave you the information was the victim. >> it was witnesses who saw the truck.

>> bill: that completes that circle. okay. i was reading last night. there is a town in mannerville, on the eastern end of long island. massapequa park where he lived and nate foye was reporting, the distance is about 50 miles. some of the victims' remains were found there and some others were found in massapequa along gilgo beach. what explains that? >> what you are referring to is two other victims. mac and taylor. their remains were found in both those locations. the most simple explanation for that is gilgo beach is a very remote area as well as so is mannerville and it's a good place to go to dump things that you don't want other people to necessarily see you do. >> bill: were the bodies dismembered? >> yes, absolutely, unfortunately.

>> dana: how surprised was he to be brought in? >> extremely surprised. we utilized the grand jury. we wanted to maintain secrecy. we were concerned about that all along. we actually took the case down earlier than we had planned because we were worried about that in part. so to see how surprised he was really made us pleased that we were able to maintain that secrecy. >> bill: dna evidence that came from one of the victim's bodies and dna evidence that came off two individuals connected to his wife, is that right so far? >> so we have hairs which were recovered from meghan waterman and hair recovered from amber costello. the dna profile from the two hairs recovered from waterman, one hair matched the dna profile of heuermann, the other was the dna profile of his wife. the hair found on amber

costello. that profile matched his wife. >> bill: you have phone evidence, correct? how could you have cell phone or telephone evidence that goes back 13 years? this is a new style of law enforcement that has been used in courts and we've seen it in high-profile cases in the last year. how do you get that from 2010? >> so back in 2012, when a lot of this material was still available, there was an f.b.i. phone expert who went into and drove through the massapequa park area and established a map of the phone -- cell phone coverage in that area, and he indicated that he showed a small area in this massapequa park neighborhood which indicated that not only was the killer using a phone in that area but one of the victims had used her phone in the area as well. similarly, they went to mid town manhattan and they mapped out

the same area in mid town, manhattan. what's significant about that, of course, is the defendant lives in the small area in massapequa park and works in the area located in mid torn manhattan. >> dana: do you feel he is responsible for all the gilgo beach murders? >> we talk about what we can prove, not think. we started this task force in february. six weeks later we had the break that we were discussing. since then we have set off and working on these four murders and once we do that, we'll continue to work and look at these other cases as well. >> dana: did you bring anyone from the old investigation into the task force to keep it seamless? >> institutionally suffolk county p.d. was there the whole time. we had new investigations but we had access to some of the old investigators and one of my detectives was involved in the earlier investigation. >> bill: how many bodies in total have been found on this

beach? is it 10 or 11? >> in gilgo beach it's 10 or 11, depending upon -- it is actually 11. those bodies are nine women, a man, and a young child. >> bill: last question from me. his google searches showed you a lot. you explained this friday afternoon at the press conference. can you elaborate more on what you believe he was looking for as it related to these women? >> sure. so we have maintained our secrecy because we were afraid that this one person, this killer, would be trying to monitor our investigation through the internet. once we got his google searches we saw it was the case. >> he was asking questions such as what is the phone evidence in the gill go case? how come they can't trace the phones in the gilgo beach case? he is asking questions regarding

the investigation and making searches of the victims, looking at pictures of the victims online and running searches of the victims' sibling and in one instance their child and it happened as if he was trying to locate them. >> dana: there is reporting of him stalking a young woman in a parkner buy. any other stories emerging? >> he was under surveillance. we're going through the stories and we'll square exactly what happened based on our surveillance as well as -- >> dana: what's the status of the case? is he under indictment or waiting for the grand jury. ? >> he is charged with first degree murder with regard to the murders of the three women. each charges carries a potential sentence of life without parole. we have a fourth murder that we are investigating, which we're still investigating. >> dana: then the indictment will be released? >> it has been. he is charged with the murder of

meghan waterman, melissa barth -- >> how often did he reach out to victims of the family? >> the evidence shows at one point he accessed the first victim's phone, tried to get access to her voicemail. with regard to the second victim, he on at least three occasions reached out to her sister. >> bill: what did he say to them when he contacted them? >> he admitted he was the killer and he had some disparaging things to say about the sister and said he was going to come find her. >> dana: wow. congratulations in bringing him in and we'll be following the case with great interest. >> bill: six fought 6, 275 pounds. arrested in mid town manhattan thursday night. great to have you here.

new polling numbers. second quarter fundraising wrapped up giving us a glimpse to where things stand with the top republican candidates now. aishah hosni is crunching the numbers and has direction for us now. >> it is not just about the campaign cash that's coming in. it is about the campaign cash that is going out as well. governor desantis as you mentioned there raised more than $20 million in the first six weeks of his campaign but spent 8 million leaving the campaign now with just over $12 million in cash on hand. as a result you have seen the reports, florida governor was forced to cut his campaign staff, reducing his team by fewer than ten members. desantis came on fox and told us his campaign issues are the result of a lack of support in the mainstream media. listen to this. >> they have seen what i've done with florida where we beat the left on all these different issues. we beat them on illegal immigration, we beat him on

indoctrination in schools. from an electoral perspective and substantive perspective they view me as a significant threat to their agenda. >> beneath the two frontrunners, candidates mike pence, nicki haley, tim scott, chris christie and vivek ramaswamy have reached the 40,000 voter threshold required. we're waiting on hutcheson. former president trump still on the fence whether he will show up or not. he doesn't think ron desantis might cut into his lead if he doesn't show up. >> somebody else has a good night and cuts into his lead. that's what's happening. he is going down. a couple of them are going on. vivek has done a good job and others. i haven't made up my mind. >> will of these candidates have been out done by president

biden. his re-election campaign raked in $72 million with opponent robert kennedy junior raising 6.4 million. >> bill: that's a lot of numbers. >> dana: you and i do have. >> thanks, in washington. >> dana: deluge of heavy rain sweeps across the northeast. flash floods swamped homes and leaving at least five people dead. plus this. >> the best number ten in the world. ♪ >> bill: this could have been dana reads sports today. the soccer legend getting a hero's welcome as his new team in miami welcomes him. clay travis and what that could mean and more coming up next. mo?

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>> bill: the white house isn't the only thing at stake in 2024. the wall is journal noting over the weekend that many think america's way of life is at risk. and that gop voters see a country corrupted by liberal

ideas. clay travis, nice to see you. let me read you something from the piece and break it down republicans and democrats and you go for it. the 2024 election is the fight over america's way of life. it turned the next race for the white house into an election with voters on both sides fearing not just the loss of political influence but the destruction of their way of life. as you answer that, clay, every four years somebody is saying this is a make or break election. if you don't act now our country is lost and down the tubes. >> yeah, look. i think it is the case that we are in an incredibly divisive time. everything is moving in a very rapid fashion. but i'm actually super optimistic, bill. i think we're in an era that is analogous to what happened after the vietnam war. i think there is a real historical con grewens between joe biden and jimmy carter.

for those of you students are somewhat modern history, in 1980 we got ronald reagan. he represented in many ways -- nixon did before watergate happened -- but a sense for a return to normalcy in america. i believe that's where we are rapidly going. i know we've talked, bill, about this on the program for some time. but to me what crystallizes this is the rapidity with which we're moving and the degree to be required to say things we know are untrue. one example. i think for a lot of americans, this idea that men can become women and win women's championships is a bridge too far. inclusion is a target of the left in this country. you must be inclusive we're told all the time. at some point inincludesist bakes -- including men

eliminates women. we've reached the end of the progressive era in many ways when that is the new argument. i think what we're seeing is a pushback against that. >> bill: we'll move to a different topic. you said divisive and what makes up the phrase you just mentioned there. among republicans, when asked democratic party's agenda has a threat that if not stopped will destroy america. 79%. asked of democrats, republican party's agenda will destroy america as we know it. 81%. for a lot of democrats it was the supreme court. for republicans it was the things you were described there. a quick thought. >> look, joe biden, how did he win election in 2020? he ran on i'll restore decency, decorum and normalcy to the white house. have things gotten normal during his presidency so far? i think ultimately it's a failed

return to normalsy. biden sold himself as the grandpa of america. that certainly has not been the way he governs. >> bill: on a sports story miami is going nuts because maybe the most famous soccer player in the world, messi, is playing for miami. i'll talk about it here. he will be in the mls. give a boost to that league. the sport is taking off. here is what the manager said of washington, d.c. united. he won't find it easy here. it sounds mad players would come in and find it's a tough league. traveling and different conditions in different cities and a lot of energy and intensity on the pitch. that guy has seen a lot, clay, i would say, right? >> yes. i don't think that messi will be overwhelmed by the difficult road environments in the united states compared to what he has seen in his international career. i do think it is in conjunction

with the women's world cup beginning and two years or three years away from having the u.s. men's world cup -- the world cup taking place in the united states, north america, i think it is a moment in time. i know messi is 36 appeared not necessarily at the apex of his soccer powers but this is, i believe, the biggest and most monumental addition to u.s. soccer since probably the 21st century began. there are many different men, women, kids, boys, girls out there that are big soccer fans. the messi jersey will become the best-selling american soccer jersey of all time, $2 hundred they were selling for outside the stadium. >> bill: sounds like pele to me. when they travel they will sell out. small prediction. good luck on the new book. see you in new york soon. >> watch that quarterback

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we're keeping an eye on it and copy you posted. >> bill: house republicans and justice department hammering out an agreement of the u.s. attorney in charge of the hunter biden matter. at issue is will he sit down for a transcribed interview? david spunt live at d.o.j. with a possible answer. >> as we monitor what's going on, republicans will get the star witness in the hunter biden probe, david weiss, the u.s. attorney in delaware. attorney general merrick garland making the way for liaisons at d.o.j. to negotiate with congress to get david weiss to sit down as soon as possible for a transcribed interview. the question will it be before hunter biden's plea deal? that's unlikely because the plea deal will be entered before a federal judge next wednesday on july 26th. republican source on capitol hill told me things are moving in a more positive direction

between attorney general garland and house republicans. just a few weeks ago there was talk of impeaching garland. that has decreased. there are several other people republicans want to hear from. weiss's assistant attorneys, wolf and graves. d.o.j. did not commit to allowing them to sit for interviews and then on wednesday in two days big hearing in front of the house oversight committee when the second whistleblower known only now publicly as mr. x wanted to remain anonymous will publicly reveal himself. the case agent that helped open the hunter biden tax probe in november 2018 and talk before congress alongside gary shapley, whistleblower number one who we heard from over the past couple months. >> bill: that might be something to watch. thank you. david spunt, department of justice, thank you. >> dana: u.s. special envoy john kerry the latest high ranking

official to visit china there to resume climate talks after a nearly year-long pause. >> what we're trying to achieve now is really to establish some stability, if we can, in the relationship without conceding anything. >> dana: let's bring in the chairman on the house select committee on china mike gallagher. congressman, there has been a lot of travel from administration members and leading up to a possible meeting this fall where biden and xi would be in the same room. what did you make of this recent trip? does it matter to us? >> it does matter a great deal. across the board it seems the biden administration is trying to revive the policy of diplomatic and economic engagement with the chinese communist party despite that having failed for two decades. the risk is that we actually do concede things in order just to get a photo op and get to the

negotiating table. our reports now that we have svelte export licensing equipment and sanctions on chinese officials, we have yet to get full transparency when it comes to the chinese spy balloon incident. there is a real cost to the zombie engagement. among the many officials who traveled there john kerry is china's favorite person to deal with and he thinks we need to cooperate with them. the ccp exploits his naive tee to advance their agenda and string us along in an endless series of meetings. john kerry and many others in the biden administration fail to see the ccp itself, not climate change, is the greatest threat we face. >> dana: let me run this cover number one when john kerry was in front of congress last week refusing to call president xi a dictator. watch here. >> the president called xi

jinping a dictator. do you believe he wields the power of a dictator? >> president xi is the major decider of the direction and of the policies of china. >> is he effectively a dictator? >> i don't think it's useful. >> dana: can you understand where john kerry is coming from there? >> it is absolutely embarrassing and shameful. he is quite obviously a dictator. people more dovish on china than me will concede that point. he consolidated power massively. the most powerful ccp leader since mau himself. it illustrates the cost of this zombie engagement approach. it happened on human rights. when john kerry asked about the numerous reports of uighur forced labor being used to build solar panels he said it's not my lane.

not my lane. i don't know what's going on there. that's an abhorrent response and typical of all the zombie engageers and thinking and they delude themselves that they can separate their pet issue from the genocidal communist nature of the regime in beijing. we deal with a marxist len-inist ridge emotion with complete rule by xi jinping. >> dana: jake sullivan was talking about this chinese hack into government computers, u.s. government computers. he says that no classified information was accessed. is that your assessment as well? >> based on what i've seen, yes. that's also not a cause for celebration. during the opm hack in 2015 when my military records and millions of others were compromised. they weren't classified but gave the chinese party leverage over us. the information can be used for

a variety of purposes in the future. it tells us something about the regime we're dealing with. at a time we're shelving defensive action in order to talk to them, they continue their economic and cyber war against america and our allies. this is a paradox of marxist regimes. they get more aggressive as they get more comfortable. they only respect firmness and have contempt for people who continually give into them. the more we give into them and try to engage without a sensible coherent strategy the more aggressive they will get. >> dana: congressman, thank you for joining us on monday as you get back to d.c. for more votes. thanks. >> bill: we got a bit of a scary moment bringing a country music star's concert to a -- this was on video for jason aldean. check it out. that was it. he was gone. never came back.

he ran off stage in hartford, connecticut. he did not return but says he is feeling a lot better after that heat stroke. show will be rescheduled for a later date. >> dana: i didn't realize it was heat stroke. when i saw this it was very concerning. they say they will reschedule it and it has been pretty warm and they played for three hours. >> bill: what is your favorite song by him? "you make it easy." >> dana: that's a good song. another one i can't remember. it's on my play list. way to catch me out. >> bill: a little karaoke later after the show. >> dana: hollywood hits pause. the first joint actors and writers strike in decades. will a deal be reached before the consequences turn severe?

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this man to be the next commissioner of the new york police department. >> bill: the former commissioner got out sooner than people expected. >> dana: she was quite beloved by the rank and file. so we'll see how this man does. we wish him the best.

he has a big job ahead of him. >> bill: 35,000 police officers in new york. good luck. if you walk the streets of new york today you'll need it. that's the news from gotham city. >> dana: next we have lights, camera, no action. actors and writers striking together for the first time in more than 60 years. hollywood brought to a halt during the summer movie promo season. making money host charles payne in a moment. first bill melugin live in los angeles. hi, bill. >> good morning to you. the former ceo of pair mournt is issuing a dire warning to hollywood saying if the strike goes into the fall it could mean a total collapse of the industry here in hollywood because there would be no new programs to watch next year, subscriptions would be cut and revenue would dry up. take a look at the video starting last friday actors began their strike. joining colleagues writers from writers guild of america on

strike since may. the writers are asking for a guaranteed numbers of writers per room and increased pay as well as regulation of the use of artificial intelligence in the writing process. now actors say they want increased minimum pay rates, increased streaming residuals and guarantees from studio and production companies on exactly how a.i. will be used. they are expected to cost the industry billions in losses but strikers say it's necessarily. it has an impact on adjacent businesses like a wooden nickel providing lighting equipment and other things to productions as well. the owner there says the strikes have wiped out half his traffic. >> all the camera people, all the grips, electrics are all suffering. every day i'm getting a call or resume saying to me hey, it's slow. got any work there? sadly i have to say to them

we're not hiring at this time. >> again this is the first time in over 60 years that hollywood's actors and writers are on strike together at the exact same time. as for the studios, the alliance representing the studios is calling union demands unrealistic. we'll send it back to you. >> dana: thank you. >> bill: charles payne, host of making money, fox business at 2:00 eastern with us now. hello. what do you think the impact could be, charles? >> people you don't hear about, right? not the executives but people who bring flowers to the set, who rent out automobiles from the 1950s. no one needs them. unique small niches is a reminder. any time you want to hurt someone who is wealthy, there are a series of people below them that depend on them for income. 2008 that strike was $2 billion. extrapolate that for inflation

$30 million a day for $3 billion hit to the overall economy. >> dana: one of the things that they're worried about, the actors, we're in the age of artificial intelligence. it adds a type of wrinkle. not your old type of strike. now they're saying you could use my likeness and make a lot of money and i don't get paid at all. >> the actors could do that. we had the debate over college football players. controlling your likeness and someone else making money off your image, right? i think also here is the more important thing for the writers and production folks. all these ceos at these company, comcast and netflix and warner brothers and disney, paramount. they are making a lot of money pub politicly traded companies and they have to bring money to the bottom line. they need a.i. where do you draw the line and how do you enforce that for the intellectual property component

of this? i know they must be fighting fiercely behind the scenes. that's why you will see the first implementations. before you see a likeness of a brad pitt you'll see some lines that would have normally been written by a human being they want a.i. to write. i don't know how they do it but this will be the big fight behind the scenes. >> bill: watch this. >> the truth is, this is a huge business both domestically and worldwide export. and if it -- if these conditions sound like pie in the sky but these conditions will potentially produce an absolute collapse of an entire industry. >> bill: dire warning. you got the ups debate. is that worse? >> much worse. a minimum 7 billion hit and the

strike is scheduled for the end of the month and asked president biden not to intervene. union president is caught in a bind on this one. >> bill: why not intervene? >> the union doesn't want him to intervene. they want to squeeze ups. you talk about being the tent tackles of a strike hitting every american. how many americans go a week without a ups package. >> they are in a serious bind on this one. >> dana: charles payne as always. >> bill: delivering quality healthcare in a timely manner. do you have a more difficult time getting a doctor's appointment? if so, what it means for your health. for an erc tax refund. you should get a second opinion from innovation refunds at no upfront cost. sometimes you need a second opinion. [coughs] good to go. yeah, i think i'll get a second opinion. all these walls gotta go!

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grand new numbers for republicans on the 2024 white house come out. the battle over free speech for all of us. kat cammack is in the fight for americans on it. janice dean in focus and in the fight for keeping the record straight on the heat that we're facing as a nation, 100 million people under alert. top of the hour, "the faulkner focus." >> bill: thank you, see you in a few moments. a new survey about visiting our doctor reveals what a lot of you might already know. a lot more difficult to get an appointment. alicia acuna is live in denver to explain this one. what did you find out? >> hi, bill. for anyone trying to make an appointment with a specialist, meet heather greg, a denver area mom who suffered from debilitating migraines for two decades. lately they've gotten worse and can take her away from work and time with family. last month she was referred to a neurologist. >> when i called at the beginning of june, they said

their first available appointment was november. and their first available teledoctor appointment was september. i was shocked. >> according to a survey, in 2022 the average wait time for a new patient appointment in 50 major u.s. cities was 26 days. up five. for an objgn the average wait is a 19% increase. cardiology wait times are up 26% and orthopedic surgery 48%. an aging population, delayed appointments during the pandemic. population growth and physician burn-out. pre-covid staffing shortages as more doctors are retiring and the rate of poor health among americans not helping. six in ten adults have at least one chronic condition. >> you will have to really take

care of preventive care in a big way. be very intentional scheduling out your visits well in advance of when you think you might need to see your physician. >> urgent care centers are absorbing many primary care patients but you may see a nurse practitioner or physicians assistant and bill in rural america, it is worse. >> bill: i imagine so. that's an important story. that's out of denver. >> dana: before we go. >> bill: what are you cooking up? >> dana: a very clever pup. i wish i had this idea when jasper was alive. he loved to fish. chance uses a hot dog bun as bait for fish. watch here. >> you had one. >> bill: back it up. show it again. >> dana: they put the hot dog bun and he waits for it and the

fish will come. he bides his time and waits and jasper would have loved that. percy could not care less about fish. >> bill: the dog is catching fish in a hot dog bun. where is the mustard? do you have any grey poupon? harris faulkner is up next. here she is. >> harris: we begin with a fox weather alert today. the heat is on from south florida to oregon with extreme temperature watches, warnings for 100 million americans. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." nearly 1-third of the united states population under ararity at this point. the extended amount of time of people in triple digit temps and no major cool down at night. you are infrastructure stays red hot. temperatures are breaking records in cities that are typically hot this time of the