far. now this is very frustrating for flyers. what it means is airlines adding more wages, united the latest to do this joining delta. southwest doesn't have an agreement. people question if the new contracts will do enough to solve this problem. send it back to you guys. >> bill: good question, thank you, madison. good luck traveling, right? might as well walk. you made a great point. just drive. >> sandra: just drive if you can, right? thanks for having me, see you tomorrow. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert. political nightmare taking shape for the left. a third party run for the white house potentially with a high-profile democrat atop the ticket. it would be a major 2024 shake-up for democrats and perhaps even for republicans. i'm harris faulkner in "the faulkner focus." democratic senator joe manchin spoke at a no labels event and likely making his fellow democrats nervous. he left the door pretty wide

open to a run on the no labels ticket. here is manchin in the critical early voting state of new hampshire. >> i i'm in races to win. the democrat and republican party that has a better model, their business model is better, you are divided. >> harris: recent polling my gave manchin optimism. 1/4 of voters surveyed said they would support a third party candidate if the election were held today. compare that with just 9% ahead of the 2020 election. fox news correspondent molly line kicking off our coverage now. molly. >> senator joe manchin rather artfully dodged the question whether or not he would head up the third party ticket saying they put the cart before the horse. manchin head lined in the first in the nation primary state of

new hampshire alongside former governor of utah. it was hosted by no labels, a political group laying the ground work to support a potential third party unity ticket securing ballot access in five states. both manchin and huntsman spokes with bret baier yesterday who asked about a potential third party bid. >> no timeline whatsoever. we're in a movement and there are so many people that are homeless. when i say homeless i mean politically homeless in america. >> here we are with the people saying in poll after poll will reinforce this. we want something different to break up the gridlock and to get us out of this doom loop that we're in. so we're here together, people are going to speculate. that's okay. >> the polling data you noted backs up what we heard out on the street from real voters, frustration with the current top contenders and willingness to

look elsewhere. >> they don't need a two-party system. they need a middle party system. most of the people in the united states are middle of the road. >> i really hope we end up with some better options. >> worth reiterating no labels has yet to announce candidates, for instance. they're working on this and prepping for a potential third party bid and say they're monitoring and analyzing a lot of polling data. >> harris: thanks for getting us started. richard fowler, fox news contributor, sure michael singleton and siriusxm. great to have you both. no labels, no loyalty if senator manchin runs under that party? >> great to see that you are back. i think joe manchin has a good point. there are a lot of democrats not very happy with president biden. i want to focus on two particular groups here, younger

voters. in 202050% of voters 18 to 29 voted for joe biden. now his approval rating among that group is 38%. immediately after the election in 2020 biden had 83% support among african-americans. that's now decreased to 74%. two critical groups, harris, that make a difference in a tight 2024 race. if those low approvals persist i predict the likely nominee with president trump will likely be reelected. >> harris: how complicated is this for the president of the united states? he needed joe manchin's vote on several things including the inflation reduction act. i put it in quotes, of course, most of it was for climate change. how hard is this for the president? what happens next? >> i think complications to go all around. complications for president biden if there are no labels decides to putted up a candidate. complications on the republican side of things. i also think there are complications for no labels.

let's not think it will be an easy mountain to climb. it was national data. that is not how we decide an election. in a world in which you have a third party candidate, can they ascertain enough votes to not put it into the house of representatives and win a state? these are big questions that no third party candidate has ever been able to achieve or answer in modern history. >> harris: this is interesting. a new op-ed today arguing that democrats might be content to see biden lose in 2024. it says here is the quote, rather than testing biden's viability the way republicans are testing trump's, democrats are letting biden take the nomination by default. richard, your reaction. >> i don't agree with this piece at all. a couple reasons. if you talk to anybody who voted for the president last time or cares about the issues the president is championing they would say a trump presidency would say that would be the worst that could ever happen.

not only is joe biden in the election. you have senate and house races. if you talk to folks in the house and senate they are 0ing in can democrats win back the house with in new seats and overturning of the map in new york and a lot of other changes. can democrats win back the house and win back the senate or maintain the senate? also can they win the white house? all three of those things need the happen for democrats. if you voted for biden that trajectory looks promising. the issues you care about are more than the white house. >> could i jump in quickly? it looks likely possible depending where you are in terms of democrat success in 2024, but the reality is president biden has significantly seen a decrease in approval ratings. the fact that president trump with everything that we've seen occur over the past several months is a point behind the sitting president? as a political strategist it is

an anomaly. i am not in the camp that joe biden has a shoe-in in 2024. people need to ask themselves the simple question are you making more money? has your 401k increased? when you go to the grocery store. more expensive to pay for gas? can you pay the mortgage and rechbt? the answer for most americans is simply no. i think donald trump and republicans have an effective argument to make to the american people about the economy then versus the economy four years under joe biden and democrats. >> harris: we'll move to the next thing. please let me go with this. i want to cover more ground with you. president biden is in love apparently with his plan to bail-out massive student loan debt. his new plan is more expensive than the one the supreme court struck down. a new penn war ton study puts taxpayers on the hook for $475 billion over the next decade.

the white house disagrees with that. it is doing its own math saying it will only cost $156 billion. really? the press secretary under fire. >> let's not forget the first two years the deficit went down by more than 1 trillion. that's the deficit reduction because of bidenomics and because of the work he has been doing. >> spending coming off the deficit -- >> what we have seen it has gone down over a trillion dollars and done it in a responsible way. he has done reduction. we've seen that over and over again in historical pieces of legislation he has put forward. >> harris: fox news legal analyst says the new plan is doomed to the same fate as the first one. >> it is worse than the first plan. biden invoking the education act. it simply does not give the president blanket authority to forgive debt. he is contorting the law, us

usurping the power of congress and treating the supreme court with contempt. >> harris: that echoed the chair virginia foxx calls loan relief 2.0 a desperate hail mary attempt to save his bid for re-election. we'll come back. >> we need to focus on why cost is so high. we need to focus on trade and other skills. when people will get degrees they need to get degrees in area in the interest of the country, science, technology, mathematics. china are superseding us in those categories. for the average taxpayer looking at this saying i want to make sure that americans are intelligent, have degrees and experience but i don't want to spend an additional 5 for 10 billion on people who want to get and arts degree. >> harris: for those people who didn't go to college. for those people working in

vocation. we need more of them. contractors, plumbers, people who build things. we need more of that infrastructure knowledge and skill. for those people why in the world should they pay for somebody else's college loan? >> a couple of things here. i agree the idea there are people who are struggling and this is an attempt to help them. i disagree the president does have the legality to do it. the truth. the truth is if you're somebody going into the building trades and you need to get a certification and you got it at your local community college it is likely you, too, have student loans that you have to pay off. if you are a dental hygienist you too have student loans you have to pay off. >> harris: why can't they use that new income to pay off their loans like everybody else and what about the people who spent years trying to pay theirs off and succeeded? >> when the cost of education outweighs the cost you are making for your salary we have to examine higher education but those in the middle class and those -- i'm not saying we

shouldn't. i'm talking about the damage that's already done. how do we help middle class and working class families trying to make ends meet at a time when we've seen washington bail out millionaires and billionaires. >> harris: last one sur michael >> richard. that sounds great. here is the question. you forgive today. what happens five years and ten years from now? we have yet to address affordability overall. >> i'm willing to aggress affordability but -- >> harris: i can't wait to bring the two of you back because the big issue here is how do you explain it to the hard working family that spent the time to pay back their loans to rise in this economy in the great america with their american dream and now they have to dig into their own pocket to pay for other people who don't want to pay their way. we have to run.

oh, next time will be fun. it looks like bombshell whistleblower testimony in the hunter biden investigation has been confirmed. >> these two whistleblowers have been nothing but credible and the american people will get to hear the truth from two credible people on the front lines that were in charge of trying to find corruption within the i.r.s. >> harris: all right. rsvp. they will be on the hill. that's confirmed. what fox has learned about the extent of alleged political interference in the hunter biden investigation and what we can expect tomorrow when the whistleblower known as mr. x reveals his identity to the public. plus critics going after disney's live action snow white over woke changes to a classic. those seven dwarves not really the way you remember them. in fact, not at all. raymond arroyo in "focus" next. ♪

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>> harris: there is republican reaction coming in on this breaking news. special counsel jack smith's office confirming to fox they sent former president trump a letter telling him he is a target in the january 6th criminal investigation. trump also suggesting now that federal prosecutors could soon indict him. house majority leader steve scalise weighing in. >> i am pointing out it is interesting the same week that you have this whistleblower coming forward to testify before three different congressional committees you see once again this isn't the only time it has happened. over and over again you see different attacks by the biden

administration against president trump. >> harris: fox news justice correspondent david spunt with more. >> house speaker kevin mccarthy saying the timing is ridiculous in so many words. congresswoman marjorie taylor green reacting say it's b.s. but using other words. she said that's my reaction. donald trump, the former president, got this announcement on sun night. he have says in part deranged jack smith, the prosecutor with joe biden's d.o.j. sent a letter sunday night stating i'm a target of the january 6th grand jury investigation giving me a short four days to report to the grand jury, which almost always means an arrest and indictment. this as jack smith's second investigation into the former president. he is already looking and indicted the former president in those classified documents taken from the white house to mar-a-lago. you see him on the screen right there from june 9th announcing those charges against the former

president. and typically according to d.o.j. sources a target letter is sent to who is the target of an investigation shortly before an indictment. last time before the special counsel indicted donald trump on the documents about a week before his attorneys met with d.o.j. officials to convince garland and others not to prosecute. the question, does the four days mean the grand jury meeting monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday and jack smith could make a decision on friday? sometimes the grand jury doesn't meet on monday which would push things into next week. the bottom line donald trump on alert he may be indicted. the third indictment in the last three months. >> harris: we'll come back as news warrants. the former president sure to have more to say about this tonight when he takes part in an exclusive town hall with our own sean hannity on fox news at

9:00 p.m. eastern. big developments in the hunter biden investigation. house oversight republicans say a former f.b.i. agent has confirmed key portions of testimony from two i.r.s. whistleblowers. which include claims that the federal investigators were not allowed to interview the president's son. committee chair james comer and representative jim jordan say this shows corruption at the highest level. >> what this f.b.i. agent confirmed is they were blocked at every turn. they were tipped off, secret service tipped off the bidens as well as the biden transition team. who will you believe, these two guys? or the biden garland justice department? i think i'll trust the whistleblowers. >> harris: i.r.s. whistleblowers will testify before the house oversight committee tomorrow. one of the witnesses is supervise re agent gary shapley.

the other has been called mr. x. we're told he will reveal his identity publicly for the first time. both of those agents claim the d.o.j. gave hunter biden special treatment. mr. x also says he was not present at the october 2022 meeting where shapley sad u.s. attorney david weiss claims he was not in control of the hunter biden investigation. that's shapley's word against weiss's. weiss has denied it. raymond arroyo, fox news contributor. reaction to all of that. all heading into a big showdown tomorrow. >> you bet. what we're seeing -- it is interesting when you see this news coupled with the story you just report evidence with the d.o.j. targeting donald trump. what we are seeing, sadly, is these government institutions being weaponizeed against a particular opponent or party.

i don't care what ideology, democrat, republican, independent. every american should be decrying what we're seeing here. what is coming out of this oversight committee. it is a pattern of the government in this case f.b.i. agents told stand down, wait, i.r.s. agents waiting outside of hunter biden's house and told don't go in. you can't go in. if this whistleblower is to be believed. now a second whistleblower confirming that. in fact, they brought in a superviseor from the office in delaware who also confirmed this testimony. what we're seeing here is deeply troubling. everybody should be united in ferreting out this corruption, stopping its politization and ending this endless media-generated and d.o.j.-generated fear mongering against certain candidates to protect corruption on one hand and target opponents on the other. none of this should be going on. this is not how justice

operates. she should be blind whether your name is trump or your name is biden. it should be blind. the statutes need to be executed. that's all people are looking for. >> harris: panic politics leading to the injustice we're seeing now. that's what i hear you saying. let's move to this. big reaction to a house bill that's been introduced by brownlee seeking to take out the words husband and wife from federal law and replace them with terms like spouse, that's not new, married person, married couple, and others like once married but now not married person. i think that's divorcee. critics dunking on the bill. one tweet here i am a woman, a wife, and a mother and that's that. another with i'm happy to see them tackling the most important issues we're currently facing. raymond. >> you know what this is about. this is transitioning the federal language in the code. that's what this is about. and it has a particular purpose.

they worry, this democratic congresswoman worries that after that supreme court case and the creative ruling over the summer that somehow this could be used against lgbt same sex married couples. so she is trying to expunge any reference to women, wife, husband, married couple. she wants to make it gender neutral to protect those individuals. that's really all this is about. i think people should probably be upset about it because it is a rupturing of the federal code and the language for decades. >> harris: i mean, i never thought that our federal government would reteach english. >> here we are. >> harris: i think some of their documents with misspellings like the rest of us. i think the language is okay the way it is. >> language is reality. >> harris: from the wild world

of woke. the new snow white live action production from disney, big backlash over the seven dwarves. in the wavs from the set it appears only one of the seven is below average height. it's very diverse group. reaction on social media dripping with sarcasm here is a sample. snow white and the renaissance fair crew. will they also be changing hi ho to hi ho, hi her. >> this irritates me. they are taking beloved stories and classics part of all of our childhoods and kind of disfiguring them in their own political or ideological cast. if you want to do a -- tell a story of a latina princess,

december neu has done that. make those live action. why are you trying to shoe horn a latina actress into a role of a german princess that clearly says skin is white as snow. like tom holland playing black panther. nobody wants to see that. just tell the story of your people. tell the story that organically flows from who you are and cast appropriately. doesn't mean you can't have non-traditional casting in certain roles. when you take something like snow white and the seven dwarves and start cross casting and counter casting it, people get upset and get discouraged and you are shattering their childhood images. >> harris: disney has lost billions of dollars. they look at the price of tickets to get into their parks and so on and so forth. they're out of whack on some of this stuff.

skin as white as snow. we will vilify people not people of color? we both are and we see that's wrong. it is bizarre. >> i agree. look, everytime they tried the reboots they failed. pinocchio was a failure. come on, peter pan, they all bombed. people don't want to see this. they want the classics. stick to it, disney. >> harris: we always want to see you, raymond. thank you for being in "focus." >> harris: we have a bit of breaking news here as we are following the day. this development. we saw this earlier. florida governor ron desantis today filled paperwork officially entered south carolina's primary and he is holding a news conference touching on a wide range of issues. he hit on the military and what he sees as the most important part of it. here is a bit of that from moments ago. >> we're now in a situation where we find ourselves seeing the military go down a very different path.

it is a military that has been ordered by civilian officials to pursue political ideology. to pursue social experimentation. to be yet another institution in american life that gets infected with the woke mind virus. this is changing the character of the military, it is changing the culture of our services. and it is creating a situation in which great warriors have been driven away and recruiting is at an all-time low post abolition of the draft and the vietnam conflict. there are reasons why that has been the case. if you look at the threats that this country has from china, for example. when china sees the navy, for example, using drag queens to recruit people, they are laughing in our face. when you see some of the nonsense that's gone on in the

services, these are things that would have been unthinkable even ten years ago, much less in prior generations. our enemies are whetting their appetite. you know why? they're seeing america take its eye off the ball. they are seeing america pursue other agendas at the expense of our nation's security agenda. so we need a military that is focused on being lethal, being ready, and being capable. if there is anybody's agenda that gets in the way with that, that agenda needs to take a hike. that's what we are going to do. [applause] so our mantra on january 20th, 2025, as commander-in-chief will be very simple. mission first, accomplish the mission. that has to be the sole focus of

everything we do and require us to go in and overhaul how the military has been running over these last few years, yes under biden. a lot of this started under obama many years ago and continued to progress very, very aggressively. we are going to come in and take very swift action to right the ship, restore us to where we need to be and what you will see, you will see better retention, and you will see better recruitment. >> harris: governor ron desantis taking time in that news conference in that event in columbia, south carolina that you just saw to focus on the military. you will often hear me see jag officer with navy team seal one. he was in the military and has definite ideas how he would like to see it go. we wanted to give you a chance to see what he was talking about. i mentioned earlier, we'll hear from former commander-in-chief donald trump in a town hall with with our own sean hannity tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern

right here on fox. more breaking news to bring you now. fox has just learned the identity of the american soldier detained in north korea as private second class travis keen. according to a senior united states official, king was due to face disciplinary action and to be sent back to the u.s. he disobeyed orders further and went on a tour of the dmz, demilitarized zone. while on that tour, he broke away from the tour group, crossing into north korea, quote, willfully and without authorization, end quote. at that point, he was detained, a spokesperson for u.s. for korea says. travis king is the first american detained in north korea for five years. president biden is set to meet with israeli president herzog in a few hours a week after biden

made these comments about our staunchest middle eastern ally. >> president biden: i'm one of those who believe -- ivor think it's a mistake to think that as some members of this cabinet, one of the most extreme members of cabinets that i've seen. >> harris: well, then biden also called israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu last night to invite him to the white house after months of tension. the latest example, congresswoman jayapal raising eyebrows with these remarks. >> i want you to know we've been fighting to make it clear that israel is a racist state. that the palestinian people deserve self-determination and autonomy. >> harris: it rained down some fire on her. then she had to apologize for those remarks. democrats are still not happy with her. 43 of them signed onto a

statement distancing themselves from one of the squad. house majority leader steve scalise tweeted the house will vote on a resolution that states israel is not a racist state. we ask will democrats stand with our ally or capitulate to the anti-semitic radicals in their party? i tell you, jayapal has put a divide down that party. who will stand with her? >> absolutely. well, hopefully no one. it's good to see democrats come together to support one of our greatest allies. i have to tell you, though, joe biden especially being pushed by progressives, pushed further to the left and now has one of our greatest allies questioning the support of the united states. i'll tell you that america is still the free leader of the world but joe biden has been chipping away at that legacy since he got back into office, since he got into office. it started with afghanistan.

we saw the british parliament hold him in contempt and then they said the withdrawal was a failure of the intelligence, leadership and moral duty. they were absolutely right. so the question then becomes president joe biden, how are you going to bring our allies back to the table and let them know that we fully support them? it can't just be congress. it has to be the commander-in-chief. he is failing at that mission right now. >> harris: when you censure somebody or whatever they decide to do with jayapal it sends a message even if only to say we'll hold our own here in america accountability for those hateful remarks. you say democrats getting on board, though, it has to be more than 43 out of 212. come on. we're not even at 50%. >> you are absolutely correct about that, harris. i know that's something they will have to deal with within their party. adam schiff even talked about it and condemned those remarks. it was the right thing to do.

but the leadership starts from the top. biden needs to get on board or we are going to be leaving our greatest ally behind. we cannot do that as the leader of the world. i think we've seen that when we've seen him go to the summits and how other countries are interacting with our president it's a great disappointment and sad to see. >> harris: yeah. i have think about the juxtaposition the two men at the top the last two presidency. the abraham accords with connection between israel and other countries like nothing before in our history. one of the few things biden has not flipped the switch on with donald trump because he knew it was the right thing to do. -- there was peace in the middle east and thank god for donald trump and jared kushner who put it together and ran with that

ball. now we have leadership in question. we cannot have an empty suit president on the international stage when we have countries that really need our help. they really need direction. when you get an american president, then put in contempt by the british parliament and questioning who we have, do we really -- do they still have the support? this is a problem that can impact us for decades. >> harris: indeed. the president also is trying to score points with voters pushing bidenomics. the blunders keep coming like a machine is making them. the latest. he claimed right now real wages for the average american worker are higher than before the pandemic with lower wage workers seeing the largest gains. that's bidenomics. twitter's fact checkers moving in fast. the president's tweet giving a community note saying the claim contains a factual error and wages are actually lower than

before the pandemic. it is one of the pluses with elon musk owning twitter now. you get a community fact check. the white house not backing down. watch. >> the president had a tweet out last night saying that real wages for the average american worker are higher than we were before the pandemic. that tweet has now been annotated with a message from the platform saying that is not factual and they have some stats and some charts footnoted along with that. do you welcome that kind from tech platforms? >> we disagree. >> harris: that was a quick response. >> yeah, what we continue to see is gas lighting coming from this administration. they know that only 34% of americans according to the a.p. poll put out last month approve of joe biden's handling of the economy. we see for the first time in a very long time people are

holding credit card balances the highest they've been. interest rates are still high. even to get back to the place where wages were higher or higher or at the same level before the pandemic, you still have people amassing great debt because of the interest rate issue. so this white house is taking it from all sides and rightfully so. they haven't been putting forth the right legislative measures in order to change course. they are refusing to do so. doubling down on bidenomics is not putting americans in any place where they can have peace with the direction of the economy. i think this white house knows that. that's why they are lying about it on twitter. >> harris: if you haven't seen his twitter today, can i tell them and can i brag? he puts the ball in the hoop lebron style. how far away were you from the hoop? >> it was super far.

>> harris: outside the paint. you were in the stands. we don't know that. good to see you. thank you. >> thank you. >> harris: neighbors are in shock as the evidence is piling up against the suspect in the gilgo beach serial murder case. >> nobody in the neighborhood ever talked to the guy. the house was a mess. but he stayed to himself. we feel very, very safe and, you know, the kids run around, they are biking around, everybody is happy here. this is a shock to all of us. >> harris: police now searching a storage unit linked to the suspect as we're seeing some chilling images from google. a street view now. retired nypd inspector paul mauro in "focus" next.

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>> harris: evidence coming in on the case of new york serial murder suspect rex heuermann. police raided his home and pulled out guns and video equipment. now they're searching a nearby storage facility linked to him. this is a live picture in amityville, new york, which is where it's located. they reportedly are looking at so-called trophies of his alleged victim and chilling video emerged of heuermann casually chatting with a woman near his new york office from 2022. about a year before police arrested him. >> this was the first time that rex heuermann's name had come up and the first time that he had been identified as a potential

suspect. at that time, the task force worked as a team to move forward with that information and their investigation and ultimately confirmed that rex heuermann was, in fact, the individual responsible for at minimum the deaths of three women. >> harris: quick review. he is already charged in the killings of three of the so-called gilgo beach four. police say he is the prime suspect in the fourth as well. there may be more as a total of 11 bodies remains, mostly women, were found at gilgo beach beginning in 2010. nate foye is live for us in massapequa park. nate. >> investigators back here at rex heuermann's home for the fifth day. they've taken out typical household items. mirror, picture frame. we've seen strange items emerge from the home behind me.

among them a portrait of a blood woman with a battered face and bruises around her face and a child like doll. investigators also seized over 200 guns. heuermann only had permits for 92 of them. authorities collected a playboy magazine comes as his neighborhood accuses him of creepy encounters. he would peer over the fence and watch his wife sun bath and it led to a confrontation. >> my wife told me a few times she was getting creeped out by him. i had a conversation with him. it wasn't pleasant. not a pleasant conversation. we spoke pretty harshly. but he didn't get aggressive or anything. >> happening right now as you mentioned investigators are searching a nearby storage unit. this is a live look.

this is the third unit they've searched in the past three days. take a look at these new pictures in "focus." this right here is the south carolina property where multiple outlets report today authorities seized heuermann's old chevy avalanche pickup truck. it could be a major piece of evidence because a witness identifying that pickup truck is what led to heuermann becoming a suspect in the murders in the first place. he has pleaded not guilty and will be back in court coming up on august 1st. send it back to you. >> harris: great reporting as always. paul mauro, retired nypd inspector. a couple of things. the storage units, plural. >> according to the reporting he has connections in south carolina, he bought some land down there. they are looking at some spots down there where he may have secreted stuff relevant to the investigation. as nate's reporting mentioned, serial killers traditionally take souvenirs, trophies of what

they do. they look for that kind of stuff that will lead them not only to the three he is arrested on. there is at least seven other bodies. the 11th body is being carried as an accidental. at least seven other victims they would like to connect to him. i don't know that they have that as of now. they cast a wide net. >> harris: let's talk about how they are collecting that quickly. you made an observation as we were watching how protective they are being of what they're finding. >> one of the things the task force did and mentioned by tyranny when he gave the initial press conference they used the secrecy of the grand jury to keep what they were doing quiet. the last thing you want is what and who you are looking at. you don't want that stuff out. a possible out there. what if he had an accomplice and what if the accomplice is watching and sees something coming out of the storage unit that may go to him or her. time for me to flee the country. all kinds of possibilities here. you don't know what they are

doing. they just don't want media all over them. >> harris: the video with the woman. why is that significant from 2022? >> i don't know that it is. just the fact a guy accused of attacking and killing women is seen on the street. he is very big, disparity in size is striking. >> harris: six fought 4, 240. >> that's one of the things that sunk him. there is a witness. >> harris: let's talk about that witness right now. >> amber costello, one of the victims. had a pimp. they booked him with the accused. he shows up and run a ruse on him as old as the hills and try to rip him off. he leaves but doesn't run out. the pimp's description of heuermann and his car, which is unique. it was a new chevy avalanche,

gets to the task force. they have two data points to look for. not only the six foot 4, 240 white male and this car. later when they do the phones and they did clever work with the phones, i think that was the eureka moment. let's see what he looks like and drives. he fits the description the pimp gave us and the car matches. he is our guy. >> harris: a client of rex heuermann reveals a creepy conversation she had with him when she gave him a ride home from brooklyn to long island. at one point on the drive we talked about the gilgo beach murders. we even discussed the burlap and why someone would use that. thinking about that conversation is bone chilling. the quote from the former client. >> serial killers talk to the world through their killing.

that's what they do. one of the things they want is recognition. this is a little bit like him eliciting a two-way conversation. about his ego. he is a very arrogant guy and wants to hear there were people talking about him. he made an impact and notorious and enjoying the fact he outsmarted everybody. the guy took one of the victim's phones and was calling her family using her phone to taunt the family that he had her and that he had taken her. by that point he had probably killed her. this is the kind of guy you are dealing with. unsurprising he was doing this kind of stuff. >> harris: when you find a suspect like this and start to build a case, what you are talking about is prosecutor stuff. all the things they can work with. investigatively it has been said from the beginning just old-fashioned police work brought this to bear. >> they did. first of all, eliciting the information from the witness very key. that witness, by the way,

presumably is still out there. there is a live witness who can testify. >> harris: are you talking about the pimp? he won't volunteer to come in. >> i think they probably got him in a jail house interview. it was significant. the phones. these days, and dna. these days juries want that, the csi effect. i don't see him talking it out of the fact that his wife and his dna found on two of the bodies. >> harris: portland, oregon, four other dead women. would it be out of bounds to you in terms of what's possible with the suspect? >> it would surprise me. i haven't seen any indication he has any connections out there. these guys the end to operate in terrain they are comfortable and things they can control. a psychological thing. go to a brand-new city where he doesn't know ropes or maybe put a body that's asking a lot. i don't think it happened.

>> harris: some of the pontefication, that's all we can have at that point. legally things have been starting to fall apart during the pandemic, maybe easier to commit crimes there. maybe not for one suspect. you could be looking for two killers at this point. paul mauro, great to have you. please come back. thank you. that will do it for now on "the faulkner focus." "outnumbered" next. economics in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. financial well-being to me is knowing that i can be free to do the things that i love to do. i hope when i retire someday, they say, that guy made this place a special place to come to school and gave as much as he could to help the community. psoriasis really messes with you. try. hope. fail. no one should suffer like that. i started cosentyx®.

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