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oh, it's going to be on like donkey kong. bombshell about the hunter biden investigation. two whistle-blowers that worked on the hunter biden case are set to publicly testify before the house oversight committee tomorrow in what is expected to be an explosive hearing. one of the witnesses is supervisory agent gary shappley and the other has only been identified as mr. x. both of those agents claim the department of justice and the fbi protected hunter biden with special treatment. are we shocked? now, a new whistle-blower from the fbi is apparently backing their claims. the whistle-blower is a former special fbi agent this time and he supervised the federal investigation into hunter biden at the irs oversight, republicans spoke with the former agent yesterday. afterward the agent confirmed key portions of

the irs whistle-blower's testimony, including that both secret service headquarters and the biden transition team were tipped off about the planned hunter biden interview and that federal agents were told to stand by and not approach hunter biden. they had to wait for his phone call. as a result of the change in plans, irs and fbi criminal investigators never got to interview hunter biden as part of their probe. the agent's testimony is sickening and reveals the lengths to which the doj is willing to go to cover up for the bidens. now, house judiciary chairman jim jordan claims the evidence is mounting against the biden department of justice. watch. >> the two whistle-blowers have been nothing but credible. today with the fbi agent confirming key parts of their testimony, that gives more credibility. this is quickly coming down to, laura, who you going to believe, the biden justice department that say parents are terrorists, who censored

first amendment free speech rights or two whistle-blowers who have impeccable records. >> guy, these are not just people off the street who came in to say what they saw. the whistle-blower carries with it certain legal protections in most settings in our federal government. and it also carries with it an expectation of independence. the fact all these people from different lanes now, the fbi, that they're coming together, what does it tell you? >> tells me there's something here. i think it is interesting, you mention the whistle-blower designation. we have seen some members of the media put that term in square quotes because they want to diminish credibility preemptively. it is not a hard prediction, but i will make it. tomorrow, house democrats will beat up on whistle-blowers, impugn their integrity, drag them through the mud, rather than dealing with actual things they witnessed because it will be a protection racket against the biden family which is what we are seeing expectedly from democrats in congress, but shouldn't

be expected the way things are supposed to work in department of justice. and i was skeptical, i was a let's see the evidence type of guy on the whole hunter biden probe. but the more we learn, the more smoke there is, i suspect there's fire going back to the president of the united states on national television during the investigation saying that his son did nothing wrong, which is clearly prejudicial, coming from the leader of the executive branch under which the doj falls. >> might have served him better to say i know nothing. >> or i have no comment. >> i don't know if no comment will work, then it ruins cakarine jean-pierre's day. my guess is that democrats are hoping a former president will take some of the shine and spotlight away from the hunter biden investigation with the charges now pending, indictment pending against former president trump. >> yeah, it is clear we're going to see indictments and news around

indictments regarding the former president, donald trump, all the way until the 2024 election, but this needs to keep going as well, so we've got two big issues here. we have the story of the biden family business and what corruption is alleged there, how they were making their money, this is a family that got very wealthy by being in public service and never explained how. we have all these allegations of corrupt foreign oligarchs giving them money and propping them, that's an important issue. even more important issue is our department of justice. we need to have a good system of handling allegations of law breaking that people can trust and these whistle-blowers who are now being corroborated by the supervisory special agent here, they're saying some very serious things about how our law enforcement and intelligence agencies have worked to protect one family at the expense of upholding the rule of law, and it is particularly a problem given that this same department of justice is also known for helping

run the russia collusion hoax and being involved in all these indictments as well. >> morgan. >> the word hubris keeps coming to mind, hubris from department of justice officials molly was referring to that were represimanded and we had investigations that have shown that the russia collusion hoax, the thing was misuse of taxpayer dollars. hubris that they can give hunter biden such an easy way out, and 56% of americans at a poll i looked atlas week believe the biden family took some bribes from china, russia. there's so much hubris from the doj, but really the hubris comes from the president and his family. think of when he was vice president, bringing him on trips around the world when the son was clearly doing business. if i was hillary clinton, i would be pissed. she and bill got in trouble taking donations to clinton foundation while she was secretary of state. meanwhile, the vice

president and his family are getting rich and get almost no scrutiny compared to what happened to her. hubris not only to do this while you're vice president, then hubris, you know you're running for president, everyone is getting ready to run for president, they're super careful what they do. nothing careful about the bidens. finally when he is president, the hubris to bring his son to the state dinner after all these allegations and charges, hubris to bring him on marine one, air force one, reportedly sometimes living in the white house, this is somebody who clearly thinks he can get away with it. >> because he has. >> that's right. >> he has. he has been in politics for so long. conceivably, it is a good argument for him, he didn't have anything to do with it. he thinks that will fly. that makes people sometimes press them harder, republicans are going to do that tomorrow. along with hubris, i would add shady. >> very shady. look at the sourcing we have on this currently, to

guy's point, waiting to see what are the facts of the hunter biden situation. now you have an irs supervisory agent on record, gary shappley, very credible, watch his interview with brt bear, i am an apolitical guy doing my job, and mr. x a case agent tomorrow we will learn his identity. two separate whistle-blowers and tracks. contemporaneous notes from gary shappley i was told in a meeting weiss didn't have ultimate authority. you have a boss signed off on contemporaneous notes, they say yes, that's what happened in this meeting. four items. now we learn there's an fbi supervisory agent totally separate from the other two saying that the secret service was tipped off ahead of a potential hunter biden interview. why would secret service be tipped off? hunter biden wouldn't have secret service, his dad would have been as incoming president in december of 2020, why was the biden transition team tipped off about this, and if i'm joe biden and i expressed over and over again, one of my main

points is independent doj, independent doj, what did joe biden do when he learned about this? did he say i have an independent doj, why do i know this? >> you're right where i am on this. i refuse to believe he wasn't told. the minute that transition team was told stand back, you know, we're not going after hunter now, you know they told him. >> it is very difficult to believe he wasn't told. this is his transition team, his intimate campaign team. we're to believe he was separate, no one said your son is being interviewed today, and then the interview never takes place. one month before joe biden becomes president of the united states, december of 2020. >> what's maddening is you have people in the media and on the left saying it is some weird republican obsession, this isn't a real story, this is a fishing expedition, a story of a father's love. tomorrow's hearing they'll say it is distraction from trump. that's what they'll say. >> that is what they'll say. >> let's move. up next, democratic senator joe manchin in the great state of west virginia is hinting at a third party run in 2024,

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joe manchin, who openly expressed interest in running a third party campaign. he appeared pretty confident in his chances, too. take a listen. >> we're here to make sure the american people have an option and the option is take the political parties off their sides, they've gone too far left and right. i think if i am in a race, i'm going to win. >> sorry, joe, many of biden's allies on the left and liberal media are not going to let that happen. ladies of "the view" freaked out over this, claiming a third party candidate would deal biden a major blow. >> the two party system is so deeply entrenched that this no labels third party group getting in only serves as a spoiler to one side. i tend to think it ends up being a spoiler against biden in favor of trump. i worry in the effort towards centrism is going to boost extremism. >> i think this is the stupidest thing ever. joe lieberman, i love you,

but you have to stop this joe. >> joe, joe, joe, this is insane. >> this will hurt president biden. you look at the election in 2020, arguably as much as donald trump or as much as president biden won, donald trump lost. there were a lot of people coming out to vote against donald trump rather than for president biden, so i think they'll be peeling away voters that will directly hurt president biden. >> they're pretty worried. probably have good reason. i was looking at nbc polls and they showed 6% voting third party in 2016, down to 2% in 2020. and those who voted third party disproportionately broke for biden two to one. the understanding would be if there's a third party candidate that's viable like joe manchin, may not win the election, but could take some votes away. >> we are told a lot of things constitute attacks on democracy. is it an attack on democracy to basically try

to bully a potential third party off the ballot? they're ruthless in the democratic party, try to keep the green party, try to keep cornel west off the ballot. >> bobby kennedy. >> this is what they frame it as. you can have your issues with trump and january 6 and all that, i probably agree on some of those points if that's what you bring up, but if you're going to say the solution is keep it only these two parties and shame anyone who might try to go a different direction, i think that's a bit contradictory, point one. point two, we were told over and over again that donald trump and joe biden are very unpopular. a lot of people might be seeking a different option. why shouldn't in a democracy people potentially have that option, heaven prevent. >> it is a democracy, but harris, you have the heavy hand of the democrat party coming down in the form of steny hoyer and dick gep heart forming a super pac to fight this effort. and move on, a leftist organization, third wing

going to capitol hill sounding alarm bells. they're trying to tamp it down. >> almost like no labels is bernie sanders because that's exactly what they did to him. they tried to corner him. they knew he was going to challenge the establishment. they didn't want to go that route and of course he didn't make it out of the primary. what is it about the democratic establishment that they think is working so well that they want to protect it? do they love biden that much? i don't think so, some of what we are seeing with staff notes coming out of the axios reporting is coming from inside the house. it has to be. how many republicans would have a good lead on who's upset in a private meeting inside the white house? that's coming from inside. so if you have all of that going on, what is it about the establishment they want to protect? they don't have the house and senate, they only have one. so my question is what is joe biden doing behind the scenes to fight back. here's a guy with 50 years of experience. is he too tired to stand up and fight for himself? i don't know. is there a showdown

coming? >> great question. a lot is at stake. not just if joe manchin runs for president, could be a spoiler for joe biden, he would be leaving his senate seat behind and republicans need one senate seat to change the majority. >> the reason joe manchin is involved, this is because he knows he won't win election in west virginia again. he is a democrat senator in a very red state, been pulling the wool over everybody's eyes whether he votes with democrats or not. he does 98% of the time. he likes to pretend to be more centrist than he is. the reason more people voted third party in 2020, democrats tried to keep the green party and other viable parties off the ballot, particularly in wisconsin and pennsylvania where they get tens of thousands of votes. so glad people are pointing out rhetoric about being fans of democracy when they're trying to limit people's options. but third parties will be a key player i think in 2024. oddly enough, the media didn't cover any third party candidates in 2020.

they wanted to be sure all efforts were put to make sure joe biden was able to win that election. but they won't be able to do it the same in 2024. >> and a lot of times theoretical things that could happen, could sway the election never transpire. no labels have $70 million. they think they can get on all 50 ballots across the country. that's a big threat. >> it is. one of "the view" co-hosts said this would lead to extremism. to guy's point, choice and democracy leads to extr extremism but makes no sense. going back to what you said at the beginning, gets back to not trusting people, right, and that's where we don't trust people to make their own decisions for democracy, we don't trust people with the truth and covid. if you find out some of the truth, you find out that we were actually probably funding something similar to gain of function research in the wuhan lab, maybe people won't be able to handle it. and that's the sort of i think mantra of the far

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with no air conditioning. she says as it got hotter on the plane, the pilot came over the loudspeaker announcing they had to go back to the gate because of multiple emergencies on board the plane and said this about their situation. >> hi, everyone. this is the captain speaking. we again apologize for the situation being very hot. this is the best that the cooling is going to occur while pnls are on the aircraft. >> wow. one passenger was heard speaking about their ordeal. >> you're telling us that we have multiple medical emergencies on the flight, the plane is still, cannot get any cooler than it is, it is still hot, and we are sitting on the plane and you're telling us you have a choice to sit here and get possibly sick and watch all of this go down or not get to your destination for days. i mean, people have jobs, lives we need to get back

to where we're going and you're basically telling us sit here on this hot plane or you're not getting where you need to go. >> flight attendants began running up and down the aisles with oxygen tanks. you have got to be kidding me now. by the time they reached the gate, a number of people passed out. some had gone to the bathroom on themselves. babies were screaming. and passengers were told to stay seated as the paramedics boarded the plane. an ambulance eventually pulled up and the fire deputy also arrived. the producer saw at least five wheeled off the plane. passengers were told if they get off the plane, they would have to wait days to get back to atlanta. you heard that passenger saying how long they would be delayed. many chose to stay on the plane as it began to heat up over and over. stretchers started to be wheeled in after a total of four hours on the steamy hot plane. that's when they were finally let off the plane.

morgan. >> i am thinking about kayleigh and i were little babies, feel bad for mommas on the plane or an elderly parent, god forbid, sitting in over 100 degree heat. you know, during covid the taxpayers put $54 billion into the airline industry. so i don't know what airline this was, this was clearly incredibly poor decision making. i would like to hear from mayor pete. guy and i are on airplanes every week. i would like to know this isn't going to happen tow me, i am not stuck on a plane four hours with my baby in this type of heat. it is incredibly dangerous and serious and worrying. >> this is where i get really frustrated about how much taxpayer money we hand to companies, no matter who they are. they need to come with a balancing list of demands. i thought we already dealt with tarmac issues. airline by airline they talked about it, i mean from top down. if you get our money, you

have to capitulate to things like human comfortability and surviveability on the tarmac. i mean, surviving it parked. >> i had some really rough travel experiences last week. but listening to this story makes me feel like i should just be quiet because this is truly a nightmare. i don't understand how someone in good conscience, whether the pilots or flight attendants, if they're recognizing people are getting physically ill, one person, let alone multiple, why they keep everyone locked in this overheated oven of a cylinder and basically the choice that you're given, you can get off the terrible jet but if you do, there will be delays for days and you may not get there until wednesday or something. that's an awful thing to do to anyone. i know some of this is beyond the airline's control, when it is weather, it is weather. i think the airlines have incentive to blame weather because then they don't have to compensate people for time and that kind of thing, there are other

crunches involved too, not throwing the airlines under the bus, this is totally inexcusable. >> i am looking up the tarmac delay on the transportation.gov, it occurs on an airplane waiting for takeoff or just landed and passengers do not have the opportunity to get off. they start with the definition. were you confused? i wasn't. >> i wasn't confused at all. >> what we need to know is how long you can sit there. all the passengers that experience an extended tarmac delay, it says it can happen, the delay rule covered carrier is any airline that operates or at least one plane with a seating capacity of 30 or more passenger seats to, from, or within the u.s. for purposes of this web page we refer to covered carrier as airlines. they do a lot of explaining what's happening. again, i think it is airline by airline that decides what they can do. >> it is crazy nightmare comes to mind as you said,

guy, i think to myself we are a society that created artificial intelligence can compose essays, mimic voices, we can't figure out air travel. i have to believe the only reason we can't, there are so many scapegoats. everyone says it is the weather, then the blame game starts. airlines point at mayor pete, secretary pete, who is responsible for some of the staffing shortages at the faa, he oversees it. they point back to the airlines to morgan's point that got billion bailouts but didn't step i can like they should. come on, we created ai, let's figure out air travel. >> for flights landing at u.s. airports, they're required to provide opportunity to safely get off before three hours for domestic flights and four hours for international flights. >> that to me is the problem with this situation. anyone understands you have plane malfunctions or delays, you have weather events, but not caring enough about people to tell them obviously you need to get off this

plane, stay close, we'll get you back on board and to your destination. the lack of humanity associated with these problems is -- >> let's not take it out on flight attendants. i was delayed last night, got to the hotel room at 2:30 in the morning, somebody was mean to the flight attendant getting on. and i felt bad for her, it is not her fault. the flight attendants are so sweet, tell me how much they love fox news. >> that's great. i had that experience, too. most importantly, when you hear them giving life-saving activities like carrying oxygen tanks, who doesn't have room to let the flight attendant go without being a problem. >> they got sick, too, flight attendants, some of them. >> all right. coming up, the woke mob assault on snow white and herself endwarfs, in the remake of the classic film. who is that on the right?

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>> well, the seven dwarfs spend their days mining diamonds, disney is working to save face after new photos emerge from the new politically correct snow white remake. the original released in 1937 was the first full length film made by disney and featured the iconic dwarfs that protected the namesake princess. fast forward to today, those characters are no longer referred to as dw dwarfs. they're called magical creatures. the new photo from the film drew massive backlash online with the cast of the dwarfs reimagined to include a variety of races, sizes, generallieders. disney reportedly said the pictures weren't real,

telling the "daily beast" the photos are fake and not from our production. they then said the picture was indeed from the film's production but was not an officially released image. apparently this all began, morgan, when there was an actor that suffered from dwarfism said you're progressive in one way, disney, when you still make that fing backwards story about dwarfs living in a cave together. they got criticism and said we are going to reimagine this. >> i wonder those watching these, i was a big disney fan, grew up near disneyworld. i used to sing at disneyworld, at epcot, animal kingdom, used to collect snow white dolls. big fan of all of this. needless to say, enough to show my daughter the original. i don't totally understand who they're appealing to and that's a good point about not having people

cast in this, not giving them the opportunity. i don't get worked up over these things mostly because i don't plan to watch it, i don't think most americans are the way the ratings are going from previous new movie remakes. >> that's the flip side of this. people have come out, said you're depriving individuals who have dwarfism pursuing these opportunities. >> i mean, i think the real problem with this disney production isn't too much diversity but too little. all they do is remake things over and over again, usually nowhere near the quality of the original, and there's plenty of stories out there and deserve to be told. rather than redoing this and claiming you're doing it in a diverse way, how about going to some of the other locations with fairy tales and stories of their own, telling those stories. wouldn't that be amazing for fresh, original content? it is like a declining quality at disney that's been a big problem for years. >> it has. this wasn't the only problem with snow white, there are always problems

with old movies. this one piers morgan pointed out, woke mob's assault on snow white and her seven dwarfs is worse than anything prince charming did. he reminds us a japanese sociology professor on workplace harassment who accused snow white of promoting quasi compulsive obscene acts on an unconscious partner. apparently there was a problem with the prince kissing her while she was asleep. >> because it didn't have consent. that's the argument. we can tear apart anything. and raymond arroyo, skin white as snow, what are you doing about that line, you going to change the script, too? i point out, are we going to vilify people who are not people of color in the story? are you replacing white people now in snow white? it is endless. if you do that with every single story, you are basically tampering with

classics for money. i can't think of another reason they're doing this. do you think they did this for one guy? i don't believe that. i think this is about cash. they're trying to make a classic, lay the golden egg again. that's going to have to be written, too. if there's any discrimination against golden eggs. >> molly made the point, do something new, think of hamilton, one of the most amazing things on broadway. instead of remaking, come up with something original. >> earlier we covered catcher and the rye hit with a trigger label, hemingway, classics, let them stand for what they are. >> right, without adding warnings or going back and editing classic works. we have seen that happening as well. my biggest issue with this particular story, i'm not super riled up about snow white, but if disney made a decision, they're going to remake the thing, going to be live action, as a

society we move past the point of calling people dwarfs or anything, if that was the decision they made and have a new cast of characters to be the new other people in the film, then own it and stand by it. i don't understand why they denied it and then came back to well, actually, it wasn't an official photo. they lied there for a second and demanded seems like a retraction, then had to shrink back and say oh, actually this is what we are doing. that's a bad look. >> bud lighting your way through the moment. why does this keep happening? if people are doing things, stand by what you're doing is what you're saying. >> own it. >> absolutely own it. sell it, own it if you think you can sell it. maybe that's part of the problem. maybe the push back is so bad, they bleed money immediately. >> all i have to say is don't touch the little mermaid. do not touch the little mermaid. more music acts are cracking down on cell phones at concerts. now country singer miranda lambert is calling out a group of fans for taking

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>> coming up, president biden set to have a meeting with herzog from israel. watching for that from the oval office. after that, 1:30 p.m., karine jean-pierre will brief from the white house. all of that happening as major testimony begins more than 24 hours from now with two irs whistle-blowers, accusing hunter biden of getting soft treatment from investigators. surely there will be questions to the press secretary on that. and the latest reaction to president trump receiving a letter that he is a target of the january 6 probe. a lot is happening this afternoon. join john roberts and i live at the top of the hour. ♪ ♪ >> well, if you want to go to a miranda lambert concert, you better pay attention and listen up while you're there. the country music star stopped in the middle of a

show this weekend to scold a group of fans taking selfies during an emotional heartbreak ballad. ♪ going to stop here a second, y'all, i'm sorry. you guys aren't worrying about the show, you're pissing me off a little bit. i am here to do country music. shall we start again? >> no, dude, you don't need to start again because when she did, she got mixed reactions from the crowd. some began to holler, cheer, whistle, others walked out of the arena and they were angry

because the tickets weren't free. was she right to put fans on blast or is it time to put the cell phones down? what's your take? >> okay. so i think if you're an artist who wants cell phones in people's pockets or not in the venue, that needs to be the rule clearly stated ahead of time. i have been to comedy shows, they confiscate the phone beforehand, everyone agrees and understands. at coldplay, chris martin had everyone put phones away. we are going to live in the moment this song, but did it in a we're bonding sort of way, not in a scolding way, and it was cool, i am glad he did that. to stop mid song, shame people that paid money for the tickets and are trying to snap a photo of themselves and friends at the concert, i don't think that's a great look. if she feels so strongly, set the rules ahead of time. don't put people on blast that paid great money for those tickets. >> if you see somebody

taking a selfie, they're in like the fifth row. they've got some good seats. >> they paid some money for those good seats, too. i reached out to some of my friends that live in nashville. i have a lot of friends in country music that are performers, asked them what they think. they made a great point that i forgot about. cell phone stuff can go both ways, there's a lot of social media promotion that the artist gets for their concert series by people being there, sitting up close, you take a selfie. it is incumbent on any of us in public life. i am d list, but any of us in public light, we have to be gracious. given tv time, performance time, i am grateful for it and grateful to people that support you. >> amen. >> i think she probably had a bad day and shouldn't have done this, but it is also true use of cell phones all the time everywhere has gotten ridiculous and annoying. i wish people would experience a concert more,

they say you remember things better, fewer pictures you're taking of it. concerts is one thing, i get annoyed when other viral things happen where a bad thing is happening on the subway, people take pictures, like put down the phone and help. you don't need to record everything. >> i wish that that could be true especially here in new york but sometimes they penalize people that come forth to try to help. that's all i'll say. there's a case being adjudicated now. >> you're only there because of your fans and the money they're paying to go to your concert, so to stop and berate them mid song, they were trying to get a selfie with you in the background, like a keep sake to take home with them. not a good look. i like miranda lambert generally. to molly's point, yes, i am a victim or perpetrator of this with my cell phone at a concert, you're there but want to capture it, you're excited to be there. i don't blame people for

doing it. to your point, there was a piece out, why pay money for a ticket to a live show if you view it through the screen, are you going to watch back the shaky video with the artist drounld out with your out of tune drunk voice? >> wow. yeah. you probably will, you're probably going to post it and bring attention to the fact you got to go do that. >> i went to beyonce sunday in nashville, i made my husband record it so i could be in the moment. >> there you go. make your spouse do it. >> maybe there's just a special connection she has to the song. i agree with what you said, then tell the audience i am about to tell you something that scratched my heart. let's all be in this moment together. can you take out phones after i'm done with this one, that sort of thing. shaming doesn't work. it makes you want to hit slow mow on the phone and get more. more "outnumbered" in a moment.

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block traffic. people use our roads, ambulances use that to get people to the hospital. people are having babies, there are women who need to get to work and their babysitter needs to get there. it's a very serious thing to block traffic, and it should be taken very seriously. here you see the police taking care of some of the protesters, but in general we've had a lot of these protesters not be handled as they should be by the police who are there to protect everybody. >> it is very serious, but this is an eye for an eye. justice. >> no one is going to condone violence, but i think for some people there is something satisfying to see people fight back against these totally obnoxious folks. you see this across europe and to some extent here in the u.s., as well. it's the opposite of winning hearts and minds. this is active damage to their cause, just angering people. in some ways, i hope they keep doing it, because they are poisoning the well for their own terrible because. >> i want to clarify, he said no one condones violence? i condone violence occasionally.

[laughs] >> you do not, molly! harris? >> i don't know what to say. i'm in shock right now. [laughs] >> they are gluing their hands, some of them come into the road. >> that's disgusting. >> and one of them screamed in pain as they tried to free his hand. >> remember when they were doing that with their butts at the coffee shops and they wanted to deface the precious artwork? these people are thirsty for attention. if you're going to become a human thirst trap, and they decide -- [laughter] you have voluntarily glued your hands to the payment, here is some tylenol. because it's going to hurt. it's going to hurt whether they pick themselves off the pavement -- what are we supposed to do, wait for hours? i also don't condone violence. and i know you are kidding, molly. at least i think she was. that at the same time, let's be equal in our treatment, not just by the police. the police are doing their jobs. when the prosecutor gets this, charge these people. it's endangering lives when you block the roadway.

>> it is. what i wonder is if they are actually bringing any positive attention to whatever the cause is. >> they are not. >> they are inflaming people, especially at the museums, harris. that drives me nuts more than anything. >> good rule of thumb, don't glue yourself to anything. good rule of thumb. thanks to everyone. don't forget to dvr this show. now, here is "america reports." >> sandra: thank you, team. we begin with this fox news alert at the top of the brand-new hour. former president donald trump says he is the target of a criminal investigation into the january 6th capitol riots. hello and welcome, everyone. i'm sandra smith in new york. good to be with you. >> john: good to be with you, as well. i'm john roberts in washington. this is "america reports." president trump said he received a letter from special counsel jack smith on sunday night notifying him that he is a subject of a grand jury inquiry. in a true social post, he said he has until thursda