what i wonder is if they are actually bringing any positive attention to whatever the cause is. >> they are not. >> they are inflaming people, especially at the museums, harris. that drives me nuts more than anything. >> good rule of thumb, don't glue yourself to anything. good rule of thumb. thanks to everyone. don't forget to dvr this show. now, here is "america reports." >> sandra: thank you, team. we begin with this fox news alert at the top of the brand-new hour. former president donald trump says he is the target of a criminal investigation into the january 6th capitol riots. hello and welcome, everyone. i'm sandra smith in new york. good to be with you. >> john: good to be with you, as well. i'm john roberts in washington. this is "america reports." president trump said he received a letter from special counsel jack smith on sunday night notifying him that he is a subject of a grand jury inquiry. in a true social post, he said he has until thursday to appear

before the grand jury. >> we are learning at this moment that david spunt is live in washington. what does this mean and what are we hearing it means for the former president? >> sandra and john, quite frankly it means the former president may face his third indictment in as many months. sources confirmed that they sent this letter not only warning him he's a target, but giving him this opportunity to appear before the grand jury this week. donald trump posted about the special counsel jack smith, "deranged jack smith the prosecutor with joe biden's doj sent a letter. again it was sunday night, stating i'm the target of the january 6th grand jury investigation and giving me a very short four days to report to the grand jury which almost always means an arrest and indictment." smith appointed the special counsel last november, already indicted him in the classified documents probe taken to mar-a-lago. in fact, there's a hearing going on in about an hour with his

attorneys and special counsel attorneys in fort pierce, florida, to go over how to handle classified documents in that probe. if he's indicted in january, it would be his third since april. it would be the second by the federal government. >> well, i guess under a biden administration, bite in america, you'd expect this. recently president trump went up in the polls and has actually surpassed president biden for reelection. so what do they do now? weaponize government to go after their number one opponent. it is time and time again. i think the american public is tired of this. they want to have equal justice, and the idea that they utilize this to go after those who politically disagree with them is wrong. >> the former president's top rival for the g.o.p. nomination, florida governor ron desantis, is in south carolina campaigning, focusing on his military policy, but of course this got dragged into headlines and he weighed in on trump's actions on january 6th, 2021.

listen. >> he should have come out more forcefully. to try to criminalize that, that's a different issue entirely, and i think that we want to be in a situation where you don't have one side just constantly trying to put the other side in jail. >> the former president also where he could be indicted too by a state court in georgia for his role in asking secretary of state brad raffensperger to find more than 11,000 votes. the georgia supreme court ruled yesterday against the former president which means that probe is allowed to move forward. back to you. >> sandra: david spunt on all of that for us. we will have more coming up and a whole lot more tonight. wright, john? >> john: yeah, we are going to get to talk to the horse himself and hear it from the horse's mouth. sean hannity in a town hall with former president donald trump, in cedar rapids, iowa. that's always a hotbed for electors in the state of iowa.

we will see what trump has to see about all this. as we pointed out with david's peace on truth social, he's already ex expressed himself que vociferously. >> sandra: we will watch for that come in on the heels all that we are watching the pentagon, a news conference underway with a lot of different questions coming up including sending more equipment to ukraine, but all of this is happening as we learn that north korea has detained that u.s. soldier. let's dip in and listen for a few minutes. >> jennifer, i think we have to keep things in perspective. one in five of our troops are women. they don't get a chance to pick where they are assigned. they are serving our country, sacrificing each and every day, and they deserve, in my view, in the view of our leadership, they

deserve to have access to noncovered reproductive health care. that's what this policy does. it focuses on health care, nonreproductive health care, which includes other things like ivf and some other things. so it's important that our troops, are women, understand that we care about them, that we understand that they don't get a chance to choose where they are assigned, so this policy helps them maintain access to that health care. the health and welfare of my troops is really, really important to me, and we are going to continue to do what's necessary to ensure that they have that access. i know senator turberville has

said it's illegal. it's not illegal. we have made that point a number of times. the point, in fact, that there is -- >> sandra: there you are listening to the pentagon update, and the pressing by the pentagon on the hold-up, they say, of the military nominees. i just want to say that a few moments ago the defense secretary said they are working to notify the family of the u.s. service member who crossed into north korea. defense secretary austin says that they are concerned about the welfare of the troupe who crossed the border into north korea. speaking about ukraine, they are talking about the counteroffensive they are, far failure. it'll be a long, hard, but he fight , talking about sending more equipment to ukraine. more coming up and we'll continue to monitor this and bring you news from it. john? >> john: swinging over to this now, extreme heat wreaking havoc

across the united states, even causing chaos on a flight that had to return to its gate prior to takeoff for some people on board got sick because it was so hot in the cabin. a fox field producer above the flight from las vegas to atlanta said the plane experienced long delays on the tarmac in triple-digit heat without enough air conditioning, leading to medical emergencies. the incident highlighted the dangers of a heat wave that is stretching from coast to coast across the south. covering this from all the angles today, dr. marc siegel will join us in just a minute with how to cope with the heat and what to do if you get into a situation where you feel like you are overheating. we begin with senior correspondent steve harrigan, live at the hartsfield-jackson airport in "hotlanta" where it's typically warm this time of year but doesn't usually get above 100. how hot did it get inside that plane, steve? >> john, we know that outside the plane at 1:00 p.m. it was 111 degrees in las vegas. inside the plane, as you

mentioned, a fox news producer was inside. she didn't have an exact reading, but she said she felt like a dog who was locked inside a car on a summer's day with the windows rolled up. and by our three of that, things started to go south for a number of passengers. here's what she had to say. >> the sanitary crew came on because some people had thrown up. one woman walked up the aisle. she was visibly ill. she couldn't even open her eyes. she was swaying back and forth. they ended up seating here in the front and putting an oxygen mask on her. it was difficult to watch, what you could see. i'm sure the people that were in the back or the middle were a lot more traumatized than us in the front. >> emergency medical techn technicians, don't acknowledge that one passenger was treated to heat related symptoms.

and a series of what they call unfortunate events. back to you. >> you get that hot a temperature outside, that many inside. thank you. speak to dr. marc siegel joining us now. people have a lot of questions. we know that emergency room visits are up. people are struggling with his heat. in the northeast there's a lot of old homes that don't even have air conditioning. we are experiencing some really high temperatures here. our bodies aren't meant to deal with these really high temperatures. what can we do to protect ourselves, dr. siegel? >> the number one where it is hydration. planes can dry out to begin with, let alone when they are a can radiating heat and you can't keep cool because you don't have air conditioning. so hydration is number one if you're going to be in the heat. number two would be as much

shade as possible. number three, who are the high-risk groups? we are talking about the very young and old, because we don't have insulation. if you have more body fat, you don't transmit heat as quickly. people need to be on the lookout for what medications they are on. especially diuretics make this worse, because they prevent you from sweating. anybody wants to be a spindly system if it's starting to heat up. it dilates the blood vessels and it sweats. the more it's necessary, the more dehydrated you get, and the body will say i start to preserve the vital organs like the brain in the heart and it stopped sweating, and the temperature goes up. you get confused, you get more and more fatigued, you get really lethargic and you develop what is called a heat stroke where you get really out of it and you can have seizures. that can occur in a manner of

minutes, and that's where we come in, and emergency personnel comes in to try to cool you down as quickly as possible. >> john: 110 is hot in anybody's books. i remember being in new delhi, india, once was 120 degrees outside. when you get to places like arizona, new delhi, las vegas, it's a very dry heat in the desert. really, there's a bit of a difference between what the actual temperature is and the heat index. when people are looking at temperatures, what is it they should be paying attention to? >> you just hit it. when you are in dry heat, you are not aware that it is as hot as it is. it feels cooler. when you are in humidity, you feel it and you feel the sweat forming on you, and you know it's hot, so you might be 90-95 degrees. when it comes to body temperature, it doesn't matter with the humidity is. when you're not sweating, you're not going to be able to cool

off. hydration being key, hydration especially being key if you are not in very good medical shape. >> sandra: is there anything people can do before they leave the house? we are thinking about all of our personal expenses with extreme heat, having lived in louisiana and trained and run and that sort of heat. i know there is people who watch the amount of salt they are consuming. it can be a good thing or a bad thing. would you suggest there are things that people can do with the extreme heat to prevent some emergency visits? >> first of all, where are you? if you're in a rural area and you are not near any medical facilities where you could call someone in an emergency, i'm really worried about that. i have actually testified in cases before, sandra, we are talking about someone being out on the hiking trail, miles away. i remember that occurred somewhere in florida where we couldn't get to the person,

where somebody couldn't get to the person. you have to keep all the fluids with you. i have written my mountain bike and 105 degrees heat and it's not just water. i say carry water but you also have to have those electrolytes, because the electrolyte solutions, like gatorade, those kinds of things, pedialyte, contain what your body is losing when it sweats. you use water and stay well hydrated, as much time and air conditioning as possible. keep as much of your body covered as possible and as much shade as possible. >> and stay away from delayed planes on tarmac. great advice, doc. >> that's for sure. [laughs] but who knew? good to see you. >> sandra: just brutal. >> john: thanks, doc. president biden welcomes israeli president isaac herzog to the white house. he's our mideast ally facing attacks for many in biden's own party. what impact would alienating

israel have a nonnational security? >> sandra: and an american soldier pla facing disciplinary action opts to cross into north korea instead. what is the biden administration need to do to get him back on u.s. soil? former special envoy for hostage affairs, robert o'brien, is up next on all of that. >> now north korea has another piece of leverage that they can use against us. this is a very dangerous situation for the soldier and it has applications for u.s. foreign policy. ♪ at r ed start right here on our family's cotton farm in north alabama. the heartland of america. we rely on hard work and honest manufacturing to deliver high quality, heirloom inspired bedding, bath towels and more, all made in the usa. experience the farm to home difference for yourself. go to red land cotton dot com and receive 15% off your order with code fox news.

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>> i can tell you what kim is going to want. he is going to want sanctions lifted. we cannot do it. you cannot lift sanctions. what has kept kim jong un in mind for the most part is that t the pressure on him. but we need to make sure he knows that there will be to pay if he's hurt that soldier. >> sandra: fearing the worst after american soldiers detained in north korea. he crossed the demilitarized zone without authorization. officials are saying he was do to face disciplinary action and was likely getting kicked out of the military. he disobeyed orders and went on a personal tour of the dmz and

then broke away and cross into north korea. let's bring in robert o'brien. he's also the former u.s. special presidential envoy for hostage affairs. thank you very much for joining us. please let us know if there is any precedent for this, how we should handle this. based on the details emerging at this hour, including a senior defense official, this just in, telling fox news that private second class travis king had finished about two months in a south korean detention facility following a physical altercation with locals. he was held in the facility and made comments he didn't want to come back to america. that's according to this official. then he was released from the detention center. he spent about a week under observation at a u.s. base in south korea. he was supposed to board a flight. he sent them to the terminal alone and this happened. what do you make of this, robert? >> it's a concerning situation. obviously we are worried about the young soldier, private king.

we want him to come back to america. there has been some precedent for this in the past. when i was a young jagged officer in the army serving in japan back in 2004, we had a soldier who had been in north korea for 30 years. he had crossed over into north korea during the korean war. and he'd been kept there by the koreans. he wanted to come home eventually. that's an issue that this soldier will have to deal with when he gets home. but obviously we want his well-being and safety to be assured by the north koreans. this will be a diplomatic challenge for tony blinken and jake sullivan to make it clear to the north koreans that the young private needs to be protected and safe, and we don't want an otto warmbier situation. the private will have to sort out his legal issues with the army when he goes home. >> sandra: we'll see what's being done as these details to

emerge. he was supposed to board the flight and go back to the u.s. the military escort couldn't follow him past airport security, so king entered the terminal by himself, he didn't have escort at the time. he was alone when he left the airport terminal for this tour of the dmz. on reports that he was laughing when he crossed the border, a senior defense official said there is no reason not to believe those reports. this is dan hoffman earlier on the price he believes the u.s. will pay to bring travis king home. listen. >> they would seek to exact quite a steep price from the united states in return for any assistance they might provide, and i think that's the concern for the biden administration, that the way out of this is going to cost us. it's going to be painstaking, and i can tell you north korea is going to be an absolute no rush to make any move what whatsoever. >> obviously there's a lot of concern about the leverage this gives north korea. we will see what happens next

and what we hear from the white house. that press briefing should be underway a short time from now, as the president is meeting with herzog, the meeting happening today, democrats say they are boycotting the speech. listen. >> i will not be attending. there's currently a crisis of democracy and apartheid, and i think this is something that has been a consensus among human rights organizations. >> i met with president herzog when i visited israel-palestine in 2021. there was no sense of urgency or care for the palestinian people during that conversation, so there's no need for me to attend the address. >> sandra: can i get your reaction to that, robert? the meaning should be underway just a short time from now with president biden. >> these far left democrats are criticizing israel and don't just understand the situation. israel is not an apartheid state. it's the only place in the middle east we have religious freedom for christians and

muslims and jews, to practice related and safety. if the only democracy in the region, our closest ally in the region, and a beacon of liberty. these democrats may not like how the israelis -- who they elected or how they're conducting their politics, but that doesn't mean the country is not a democracy. israel is our ally. we have to support them. the president needs to send a strong message to president herzog that we are there for them. they are under threat from iran and terrorists in the west bank, from hamas and gaza and hezbollah in lebanon. they are literally surrounded by their adversaries, and yet they conduct themselves as a democracy that believes in the rule of law. we need to stand by our israeli friends. it's a jewish state, a home for jews who have been persecuted around the world for many years, and we have to stand with israel. and very disappointed to see those congressmen comparing israel to an apartheid state, or

a state that doesn't believe in democracy. that's defamation of our friends there. >> sandra: aoc, rashida tlaib, cori bush, there is a growing list. i just want to get this and they real quick. lloyd austin at that briefing a short time ago on the service member who he says is on the tour willfully come across the demarcation line. they believe he is in dprk custody. in terms of their concerns, austen says, "i am for most concerned about the welfare of our troop." we listen for updates on that. robert o'brien, great to have you here. >> great to be with you, as always. >> sandra: john? >> john: always good to see mr. o'brien. families of the fallen soldiers killed in kabul during the hasty u.s. withdrawal on capitol hill today as they continued their quest for answers. how their loved ones want to make sure their names are not forgotten.

>> sandra: plus, two irs whistle-blower set to appear before the house committee. now their bombshell claims about the hunter biden investigation are getting some corroboration. coming up next, been dominant, and what we can expect to come out of that hearing. >> no one has refuted one thing these individuals have said. the story has not been confirmed by an fbi agent? or are you going to believe the garland-by the justice department? i think the american people are going to believe these guys. ♪ ♪ wha but at the end of the day, you know you have a team behind you that can help you. not having to worry about the future makes it possible to make the present as best as it can be for everybody.

>> this time tomorrow, the irs whistle-blower's at the center of the hunter biden investigation will testify publicly on capitol hill after accusing federal officials of political interference, and their allegations are now getting back up from a former special agent in the fbi. let's bring in ben domenech, the editor at large for "the spectator" and the fox news

contributor. gary shapley and whistle-blower x testifying tomorrow, and james comer just said that he did an interview with the fbi agent who is very much involved in this case who backs up just about everything these two whistle-blowers have been saying in terms of interference at the highest levels. this adds a whole new dimension to this. >> it really does. if you assume sort of the attitude of comer, now i have confirmation not just from the irs side of things but the fbi side of things, as well. i think this is the beginning of a real explosive series of revelations about how much activity, how much involvement, underneath the biden administration, we saw in this situation. the president and the white house have been vociferous in saying we are avoiding any interaction, we're not going to comment on any of this, we are not going to u send any signals.

but that doesn't mean signals weren't sent and it certainly doesn't mean they weren't assumptions made on the part of various individuals down the chain of command about how they should be treated. the fact that you have an fbi special agent saying, "in my entire career i have never been asked to wait outside someone's house, a source's house that i was supposed to interview," and had them say, "wait until he gets in touch with you," that is sort of a revelatory thing. this is not something we would anticipate working on any of the case. the fact that it happens to involve the president the president of the united states' son takes on a new seriousness in terms of the level to which they put their hand on the scale. >> john: gary shapley, again, is the identified whistle-blower who talked with bret baier about this on "special report." here's what he said about trying to interview hunter biden. listen here. >> we had a plan of how we are going to approach hunter biden

that morning, and ultimately we found out that, the night before, i was told the fbi headquarters contacted secret service and the transition team and told them of the pending action the next day. there was a clear opportunity them to be tipped off before we even approached them. of the 12 interviews be attempted, we only received one substantive interview. >> john: so he says the fbi special agent confirmed all t this. and the links to which the doj is willing to go to cover up for the bidens. how do you see it any other way? >> it's the cover-up and not the crime. there's plenty of evidence of particular activities that need to be investigated to the fullest extent given the criminal nature they are. the cover-up is very disturbing, and again, the whole frame of

the approach to politics has been, i am the return of normalcy, the return of a reliable and constant nature to the way that government works, a break with the chaos of the trump era. this cuts against that completely. it suggests instead that he and those close to him are absolutely willing to put their hand on the scale and to turn things away from different places they do not want investigators to look. >> the ranking member, jamie raskin, saying that comer is cherry-picking. >> i don't see how you can cherry-pick this! this is pretty clear. >> john: another big issue here in washington, d.c., jim jordan is considering holding both christopher wray and jeff zuckerberg of facebook in contempt. he wants to know about the investigation is the school parents who were unhappy with fluids going on on in schools as well as the catholic church.

he wants internals mutations on censorship of posts that were put on facebook. this has increased aggressiveness to try to get to the bottom of this. >> it is, but these are the tools he has in hand. the more disturbing aspect of this has to do with christopher wray, a and i think viewers of this channel have seen the testimony he gave in front of congress, which was very disturbing to me on a number of different counts. but i also think that a lot of this is using the power of oversight. that's the one thing they have really got with this republican majority, to go after and to delve into a lot of these things. we have concerns about censorship that flow into the 2024 election in significant ways. the way zuckerberg and meta and facebook approach these things, we all saw the factor they played in 2020 and the outcome that was accelerated, thanks to their activity. this time around there is concern on the part of a lot of

republicans on capitol hill that the same thing could repeat. >> john: and yet the white house is fighting tooth and nail to maintain that communication with the social media. >> it is completely unacceptable and again it is empowering these different corporations driving them to do things the government cannot itself do. >> john: is a bilateral meeting between president biden and the israeli president, isaac herzog. let's get it right here. >> president biden: 75 years. it's hard to believe. it's hard to even remember two-thirds of those. this friendship, i believe, is simply unbreakable. together, working to bring more stability and innovation, and a lot of hard work. we have a lot more to do, but there is progress. last year we have maintained the largest gathering of arabs and

israelis in a decade, and we resolved a maritime boundary dispute with lebanon, which people thought could never happen. we opened up airspace for israel and over saudi arabia, after a little visit there. and we brought israelis and palestinians together on a political level. as i affirmed to prime minister netanyahu yesterday, it is ironclad. we are committed as well to ensure that iran never acquires a nuclear weapon. so we have a lot to talk about, >> thank you, mr. president. it is wonderful to see you again. i bring a message of greeting and gratitude on behalf of the people of israel, the entire

nation of israel, from all sides of the political spectrum, all expressing great friendship and gratitude to you. as you said, it is almost a jubilee since you've entered politics and you've always stood by the state of israel, the people of israel, on so many issues. i was pleased to hear about your conversation with prime minister netanyahu in which you focused on our ironclad military security corporation, because there are some enemies of ours that sometimes mistake the fact that we may have some differences impacting our unbreakable bond. and i truly believe that, had they known how much our cooperation has grown in recent years, and has achieve new heights, they would not think that way. i also want to thank you, mr. president, for perceiving more and more corporation and integration in the region,

finding and looking for partners for peace with israel and cooperating on so many regional issues together. finally, mr. president, i know you have mentioned and we will discuss, as well, the internal israeli situation. as you know, i am happy to be here, because tomorrow i will be speaking in front of the joint session of congress, especially devoted to celebrating israel's 75th independence. however, of course, my heart is also in israel. the heated debate which we are going through as a society, it is a heated debate but it's also a virtue and a tribute to the greatness of israeli democracy. let me reiterate clearly, crystal-clear, israeli democracy is sound, strong, and resilient. we are going through pains, they are going through heated debates, we are going through challenging moments, but i truly believe, and i will say to you, mr. president, as i have said it as head of state to the people

of israel, we should always seek to find amicable consensus, and i agree with you on that, as well. even in these very moments i am pursuing this, as much as we can, in order to find solutions and exit out of this crisis. thank you, mr. president, for your friendship, and god bless you. >> president biden: thank you for your friendship. we have a lot to talk about. thank you all very much. [reporters shouting] >> john: a lot of shouted questions, but the president, we are told, did not bite on any of them as the israeli president isaac herzog makes the visit to the oval office. sandra, the key thing for the president, america's commitment to israel is firm and ironclad. quite the contrast to fellow members of the democratic party like ilhan omar and pramila jayapal who said very unkind things about israel. >> sandra: and those choosing

to ban the speech. quite a moment there. not taking any questions, the president. we keep watching but he did not bite on any of those questions given to him in the oval office. we will likely have more reaction coming up, and some of the recent action by lawmakers ahead of that meeting. >> john: looking forward to that. meantime, a convicted felon granted clemency in oregon is now a person of interest in the deaths of four women, their bodies dumped in various areas near portland earlier this year. police previously thought the cases were unrelated, but today they have a suspect in custody. complete coverage now, mark eiglarsh is standing by. the first, to dan springer with the new development. what can you tell us? >> john, nine different police agencies have been working this case and they finally came out and said that the deaths of four women are connected. their bodies found around the portland area, as you said. and a career criminal who was

let out of prison early by the former governor of oregon. the deaths are currently considered suspicious, no cause or manner of death has been determined. they are 22-year-old kristin smith, 24-year-old charity perry, 31-year-old bridget webster, and 22-year-old ashley real. the bodies were all found in remote wooded areas in and out of the portland area, within 10. portland police initially said there was no evidence that they were links, but families felt otherwise. kristin smith was the first it is disappear back in september. her body was the first found in february. the last victim was found in may. the oregonian and other local media reporting that the person of interest is 38-year-old jesse calhoun, a career criminal from portland. his latest conviction for burglary, auto theft, and assaulting a police officer back in 2019. he was sentenced then to 50 months in prison but was let out a year early, partly because he helped fight fires in oregon as

part of a prison crew. he was considered nonviolent, but then on july 3rd this year his commutation was revoked by the current governor at the request of the multnomah county district attorney's office. oregon public broadcasting reported that brown either granted commutations or pardons for more than 48,390 people over the seven years she was in office. most of those were made after the death of george floyd under the guise of social justice. at the time, critics warned they would be tragic consequences. jesse calhoun has not been charged with the deaths of these women, and they haven't even been called murders yet, but the police don't have any evidence yet to present to a court. they have time, they have a year now while he is in custody filling out the rest of that form a prison sentence to bring charges to him. john?

>> i assume they will do a meticulous job with their case. dan springer for us. thank you. sandra? >> sandra: joining us now, mark eiglarsh, criminal defense attorney. good to have you here. this is a remarkable change of course by the portland police who now believe the deaths of these four women may actually be linked to this possible serial killer. what do you make of all this? >> well, they haven't decided yet whether he is going to go from person of interest to a suspect to someone who's actually placed under arrest. so let's not make that leap. it is possible they say they've got the wrong fella and let him out the front door. probably not likely, that is another vertical leap to suggest somehow the governor is to blame for this. >> sandra: there are some who believe that to be the case. nancy grace is slamming the governor for releasing the suspect in the first place. listen.

>> and very, very disheartened, not only because this career criminal was released early, because that then-governor claims she has concerns he was covid susceptible. hello, really? she lets this guy out, and within about a year and a half, six dead bodies were found. this is a serial killer's dream come true. >> sandra: so the point on the reversal is that the portland police initially said the agency had no reason to believe these six cases were connected. there is obviously a lot of different information swirling around here, so give us your take. what do you think happening here? >> i say follow the timeline, okay? he was supposed to be released june 30th, 2022. he along with many other inmates got 11 months shaved off because he helped fight the firefights, the fire that was out there. okay, so he got out july 22nd,

2021. if these crimes occurred recently, in july, then her letting him out wouldn't have had any difference at all. >> sandra: well, there's obviously big questions over stories like this, and democratic leaders and their consideration for clemency. if you set this one aside and you look at these stories happening across the country, do you think there are any lessons to be learned as we await more details on this specific case? >> i think all politicians, all prosecutors, all judges, should pause before they endorse anybody being released. that's what they do on a daily basis. you've got to take some risks or else no one would get pardoned or granted clemency or given probation. there is always inherent risk. but you look back at the facts they had, if you look at this guy, while he is a career criminal, there was no indication that somehow by

shaving 11 months off, like was done for all the other people who helped with the cause of the fire, that somehow this would lead to people being killed. again, i think you pause but you don't necessarily blame when there's not enough evidence to suggest this was supposed be reasonably foreseeable. >> well, the connection obviously is being deeply looked into right now. market, we appreciate you joining us on that as we learn more details about those cases. thank you. >> my pleasure. >> sandra: is bidenomic being held together by emergency measures connect windows go away this fall. plus this. >> we are here basically in a movement, and there are so many people who are homeless. when i say homeless, i mean politically homeless, and america. >> john: democratic with regina senator joe manchin in new hampshire with a group pushing for a third-party run in 2024. what would it mean for president biden's chances if no

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>> john: west virginia senator joe manchin headlining a town hall in new hampshire, where he promoted the "no labels" interest agenda. he insists he has no plan to

play spoiler in 2024, the plaintiff's fellow democrats fear a third-party candidate could hurt president biden's reelection chances. thkatie pavlich, no labels has been throwing this idea of running a third-party candidate. joe manchin has been toying with it a little bit but he mostly says he's probably not going to do it. what do you think he's going to do? >> as the old saying goes, the only thing in the middle is roadkill. no labels is trying to make this effort to bring people together who are frustrated with each political party, but that's been going on for years, and joe manchin is interested because the dnc has essentially shut down the democratic process for the democratic primary by saying they're not going to allow debates against president joe biden. he already has a few contenders in that race. but the real reason joe manchin is flirting with running for president isn't because he wants to be in the middle and be a no labels candidate, but ab because he's about to lose his senate race in west virginia.

a very popular republican announced his candidacy against him. his approval rating is 64% in west virginia and joe manchin is at 40% with a 53% disapproval rating. he's looking for ways he can maybe maintain his political career and no labels is giving him at least the opportunity to have a platform and get his name out. but not necessarily sure he's doing it to run for president. just because he's about to lose his senate seat. >> john: a lot of people would have thought that the best way for him to save his political hide would be to become a republican. but he's got that lean now. >> there's been some reporting about no labels and what they will do if it does hurt joe biden's chances. >> john: that's the weird thing. >> they said, if it were to hurt his chances of getting reelected, that they would stop their efforts. it seems like no labels is more interested in stopping a republican from getting elected than they are being in the middle and centrist. >> john: manchin seems to be waffling on whether or not he will support joe biden.

let's see what he told bret baier on "special report. >> the parties have retreated to the extreme right and left, and that's what this is about. listening to the people of new hampshire. >> john: listening to the people of new hampshire. he was there with jon huntsman, the former governor of utah, former presidential candidate, the father of the woman my son took to the junior prom at langley high school so many years ago, and who married someone else, as well. >> sandra: they go, little back story. >> john: a little too much family history. but could that be the ticket? >> they're going have to get access and have strong infrastructure like the dnc and the rnc. i don't see them putting out a viable ticket. for joe manchin to say he's not going to support joe biden, he has supported his agenda and voted with him, in particular on the inflation reduction act, which not only increased inflation but was also a huge handout to anti-fossil fuel, green energy advocates. that of course goes against what

the people of west virginia have when it comes to what they need for their livelihoods. it is interesting he's trying to get away from that record, saying he might not support joe biden, he has certainly voted in lockstep with joe biden on the number of issues. >> john: in terms of who this could hurt, when you look back to 1992, the last big independent campaign with ross perot, he got a percent of the vote that people say handed the election to bill clinton. but he drew from both parties, so maybe that could be the case. if that's the case, with no labels run? >> they might. they have worked when it comes to state-by-state access. if the data shows, they will. but for right now it shows little hurt his chances get reelected. >> john: katie pavlich with the wisdom that the only thing in the middle is roadkill. >> sandra: a briefing at the white house right now, karine jean-pierre set to take questions any minute now. we listen for any news from tha. a lot of different topics on the

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i'm christine mahon. i'm retired from public health nursing and from the army reserve. my retirement funds allow me to enjoy what i love to do. as long as you can make an impact, why stop? >> john: more now on our top stories. we take a look at the white house briefing room. karine jean-pierre doing some housekeeping and she will get into question and answer in a minute. we will begin monitoring that. donald trump says he is now a target of the federal investigation into january 6th, and efforts to overturn the 2020 election. >> sandra: the former presidents as special counsel jack smith sent hi