i'm christine mahon. i'm retired from public health nursing and from the army reserve. my retirement funds allow me to enjoy what i love to do. as long as you can make an impact, why stop? >> john: more now on our top stories. we take a look at the white house briefing room. karine jean-pierre doing some housekeeping and she will get into question and answer in a minute. we will begin monitoring that. donald trump says he is now a target of the federal investigation into january 6th, and efforts to overturn the 2020 election. >> sandra: the former presidents as special counsel jack smith sent him a letter on

sunday and that he expects to face both an arrest and an indictment. >> john: that will be the third indictment against the former president. let's bring in bret baier. the former president really hot under the collar about this on truth social, saying, "deranged it jack smith, the prosecutor with joe biden's doj, sent a letter sunday night stating that i'm a target of the january 6th grand jury investigation and giving me a very short four days to report for the grand jury, which almost always means an arrest and indictment." last two times he received letters, he was arrested and indicted. i expect this will be the same. >> this is the m.o., and the process by which it leads to that. he's probably going to not go to the grand jury and that voluntary appearance in the next four days. if you do the math, probably by friday you could be seeing another indictment. this would be the third indictment. each indictment so far politically has not affected the former presidents, which is

pretty hard to believe. each time his poll numbers have actually gone up, so we will see what this means. obviously january 6th and all that surrounds it maybe has more threatening implications for the general election, independents and suburban women and people who look at that day with a very different prism than some of the hard-core trump supporters do. >> john: what you make of the timing of all of this? we have the whistle-blowers who will be across the street on capitol hill testifying before the oversight committee. we've now got james comer saying they have interviewed an fbi agent who was at the center of this criminal investigation into hunter biden who is corroborating a lot of the things gary shapley and whistle-blower x said. and donald trump gets a letter that he has to appear before a grand jury. >> they will be a lot of eyebrow raising about timing. i think that investigation seems like it's adding up, that they're having more evidence, and an fbi agent who corroborates a whistle-blower

starts to piece together, once they have hard evidence, it becomes a little tough for a lot of people to ignore it as they have. whether there is coordination hear about timing i think is a jump, but it will be raised, because it is happening up on the hill tomorrow. >> john: so two arraignments and indictments already under his belt. it looks like a third, as you pointed out, could be ahead. some republicans are saying enough is enough, the former president should bow out of the race. there are many other republicans who say no. to your point, that this just makes them stronger. but nikki haley thinks it's going to be a distraction. listen to what she said. >> it's going to keep on going. i mean, the rest of this primary election is going to be in reference to trump about lawsuits, legal fees, judges, and it is just going to continue

to be a further and further distraction. we can't keep dealing with this drama. we can't keep dealing with the negativity. >> john: she obviously wants to get to the issues and doesn't want this all to be about the trump indictments. we've got to wonder, at some point, how many indictments can they face before people start to say, you know what, maybe it doesn't matter? >> there are two sides of this and this where it's going to be played out on the primary side. the people who say, you know what? i really liked trump policies but i don't like the chaos. i don't like the baggage. that's what nikki haley is trying to tap into. you will likely see ron desantis and mike pence and others tap into that. but then there's another side that says, listen, why are they going after him so hard? why are they doing this to this former president who we liked his policies, we had some problems with him personally maybe, but why are they doing it? and maybe, this is their thinking, he's shaking things up and bringing down the swamp and changing washington and that's why they going after him.

at least that's what they say publicly. i think that is where the battle of this primary is going to be. >> john: do you think you show up? >> he said he's thinking about it. i think the spotlight is pretty big. that's a lot of viewers. >> john: good to see it. thanks for joining us. sandra? >> sandra: let's get to the white house now. the briefing is underway, karine jean-pierre taking a question about the soldier detained by north korea after crossing over the demarcation line. >> we are working with our north korean counterparts to resolve this incident. dod is in the process of notifying next of kin. until that is complete, they will not release identification of the soldier. the white house and department of defense, the state department, and the u.n. are all working together to ascertain more information and resolve the situation. i don't have more to share beyond that.

we are looking into this, trying to get more information. as i mentioned, the dod has been in touch with their counterpart, as well as others who are certainly working on this together. they are in touch with the people's army, but don't have more to share beyond that. >> reporter: the "houston chronicle" is reporting that they were told to push migrant children into the rio grande river. what steps is the administration taking to verify this report and address the findings? >> is a poignant, despicable, dangerous, and we are talking about the bedrock valleys of who we are as a country and the indecency, the human indecency we are seeing, if this is true, is just wrong. it's completely completely wr

wrong. it would not be surprising from a governor who, let's not forget, on christmas eve, put migrant children on the streets in below 0 degrees temperature. that's what we saw from this governor. again, we don't know if this is true, if the reporting is true, but it is truly troubling to hear this type of reporting. >> and lastly, former president trump received a letter from special counsel that he's being investigated for his role in the efforts to overturn the 2020 election. house speaker kevin mccarthy says the biden administration has decided to "weaponize government to go after their number one opponent." >> he has been very steadfast on making sure that the rule of law comes back in this administration, comes back in the white house, and clearly in the station more broadly. that's what you have seen. i'm just not going to comment on

this particular case. >> on the service member who crossed into north korea, i know you are still gathering information as its unfolding. the big picture, what lengths of this is administration willing to go and how much diplomatic capital are you willing to spend to get the service member back? >> we are looking into this, and clearly there is an investigation in this incident, and this is something the secretary said himself is our primary concern at this time, ascertaining the well-being of this individual. so that is going to be certainly our primary focus here. as i mentioned, the deferment of defense has reached out to their counterpart at dprk. i'm just not going to go beyond that at this time. >> at this point do you know if they're asking for anything in return? >> i don't have anything to share. this is something his secretary said, as well. the very early stages of this

issue, of this incident, so we are trying to gather as much information as possible. >> on the soldier who crossed into north korea, do you know what the misconduct was he was being disciplined for? >> i don't have any information beyond what you already know. >> do you know where this occurred? was it one of the buildings at the joint security area? was at outside? >> a very good questions. as i said, this is a very early stages of this investigation. we are going to look into it. i just don't have anything to share beyond that. >> on january 6th, i understand the president has held former president trump responsible for the events of january 6th the previous in his rhetoric and a number of ways. how does he feel about the fact that the former president may now be held accountable for the events of this day? >> this is an ongoing case. i am not going to respond to any hypotheticals currently out there in the world. i'm just not going to.

i'm going to be very mental and give the deprived of justice their space to do this investigation and i'm not going to come in from here. >> my colleague reported that the u.s. has been holding migrants at cbp detention facilities for more than ten days as a result of some of the administration's policy changes. even though its u.s. government policy to not hold those individuals for longer than 72 hours. what is it administration doing to rectify this and to what extent do you believe the president's policies are responsible? >> i have to look into that reporting. it's the first time i'm hearing about this. have a policies as relates to holding migrants. but i have not seen that reporting, so i would have to give you the correct infor information. >> in seoul attending the meeting, is he getting involved in any capacity and getting the american soldier out? >> i don't have anything to share about specific

individuals' involvement. what i can say is the white house, the deferment of defense, the state department, and certainly the u.n. are all involved. as i mentioned, dod has reach out to their counterpart. i just don't have anything on anyone specifically being involved. >> and has there been a request to the north koreans for the return of the soldier? >> all i can say is we have done outreach to the respective counterparts and in particular the department of defense. i don't have anything else to share. even the secretary of defense said we are in the early stages of this, so we are looking into this incident. we obviously want to get it resolved. >> a quick one on israel, will president biden be asking president herzog to take any kind of message back to prime minister netanyahu about the need for him to back off knesset, or to reach a compromise or potentially some kind of overhaul? >> i think in our read out is

certainly something the president spoke to the prime minister himself about yesterday, so that is a topic -- >> toward the end of the week, also. >> but it's in the readout, correct? it's in the readout. a couple things i want to say just reiterating with the president said moments ago, his love for israel is deep-rooted and long-standing since his early days of government, so that's important. one of the reasons this conversation is so important, israel is clearly celebrating the 70th anniversary of israel's independence, and this was an opportunity to lift up, continue that partnership at a higher, certainly. they are going to be talking about advancing a more integrated, peaceful, and prosperous middle east, something the president has certainly led on and talked about in the past year. a couple things, preser preserve path of negotiating a two-state

solution, countering anti-semitism. this past may we announce a very comprehensive one-of-a-kind anti-semitism plan which we think is incredibly important at this moment. the importance of upholding democratic principles, including the checks and balances, as we talk about judicial reform, and the changes have the broadest possible -- if there are changes, they need to have the broadest possible consensus within our system. so certainly the president is going to talk about how the president of israel himself has been involved in brokering a compromise as it relates to judicial reform, so that's what's going to be on the table. but the president certainly has had that conversation directly with the prime minister as recently as yesterday. >> looking for a venue for the meeting? israelis say it's going to be at the white house with president netanyahu but the white house hasn't confirmed. >> what i can say is both the president and the prime minister talked about continuing to be in

touch, so both of their sides, both governments are going to have those conversations. i just don't have anything to preview for you at this time. >> why the hesitation? >> there is no hesitation. we have said, we confirmed yesterday, they said they were going to see each other later this year. we just haven't worked that out. sometimes this takes a little bit of time on where it's going to be and how it's going to l look. >> it does appear there is a hesitation to confer a white house meeting on netanyahu, based on just a lack of willingness to be explicit about that. i would imagine the prime minister will also be at the united nations general assembly and that would be another potential venue for what you are describing yesterday. is there any reason why the white house wouldn't make it explicit, the white house invitation? >> you just laid out, this potential of their opportunities for the two leaders to meet with each other. as i said, as i've stated, the details are going to be worked

out by the different teams on what it's going to look like and where it's going to be. but they have committed to meeting and seeing each other in the united states later this year. i just don't have a specific location. it's going to be worked out and as soon as we know we will certainly share it with you. >> can you walk us through how the president was notified about the north korean incident and if that generated a separate meeting for him or was part of the pdv? something like this is certainly unusual. so if there's any detail you could give us. >> that's a very good question. i can tell you for sure that clearly the president has been briefed. obviously this is a type of incident he would be briefed on, as you all know. i don't have the specifics if it was part of his pdv or separate briefing, but this is clearly something the president is watching very closely, and we will be kept updated. >> should be anticipate a call to south korea or other partners in the region as the result of this? >> one thing i can say is i don't have any calls to read out

anybody that the president is going to be calling specifically in either north korea or south korea. i can say, as it relates to our partners, we have been engaging certainly with sweden and south korea, but i don't have any calls to lay out specifically for the president. >> thank you. on the matter of the u.s. soldier, you said the u.s. is working to resolve this matter. can you just clarify what a resolution is? >> resolve this incident, resolve this matter to get to the bottom of exactly what happened. there is an investigation currently occurring. there has been outreach from the department of defense. as i mentioned to their counterparts, over at the korean people's army, you have the state department and the department of defense, the u.n. on the white house, all working together to resolve this. resolving this is basically getting to the bottom of exactly what happened, and that is important for us to know.

i just don't have more to share. once we do, we will certainly share the information. >> what about bringing him home? >> we have also said, look, he's an american citizen, and that's important to note. a primary concern is ascertaining his well-being in getting to the bottom of exactly what happened, and what occurred. what secretary austin said moments ago, he is absolute is absolutely concerned about the welfare of his troops. that is something that, as the secretary of defense, he is concerned about. and this will develop in the next several days and hours, and we will certainly keep you posted. that's coming directly from the secretary of defense. >> are you working under the assumption that the soldier wants to come back to the u.s., or do you know that for certain? >> i'm not working under any hypotheticals or assumptions. there is going to be an investigation into this incident. i certainly don't want to get into hypotheticals, speculations of what occurred, or how we ended up here. we just want to make sure we get

to the bottom of this. >> quickly, we were informed shortly before going into the oval office that several members of the israeli delegation tested positive for covid. can you tell us whether president herzog was tested before his meeting, given the close proximity to president biden? >> as you know, we have testing protocols any time someone meets with the president, so i can tell you that anybody meets with the president does indeed get tested. i do, we all do. any specific additional questions about what occurred amongst israeli delegation, i would certainly refer you to them. >> thank you. >> we are not in danger, though, right? >> thanks. alabama state lawmakers proposed a congressional map, a secondary map, with a district that would be 42%, not quite a majority, as

the plaintiffs in the case of sad. they said this is a violation of the supreme court ruling. does the white house take the position that this proposed map does not fulfill the ruling of the supreme court to have that second district attorney? >> that is something i would have to refer you to the department of justice. i'm just not going to speak to that from here. i have not seen this secondary map, what it is that's being done in alabama. but i would refer you to the parent of justice. >> senate democrats today are reintroducing the freedom to vote act, something the president has called upon in the past repeatedly. though we know the political reality in the house for that bill, what does the white house say to americans more broadly about the reintroduction of this? >> as you just stated, this is something in presidencies as a priority, making sure americans have the right to vote and have those freedoms intact. so that is a message the president will always continue

to share. he's going to continue to call on congress to act. it sounds like they are moving forward in the right direction and we think that's incredibly important. it's our constitutional right to be able to vote, to vote freely, to be able to make sure our voices are heard. but it's not going to go beyond that. >> did the president address at all in this meeting -- >> say that one more time? >> did he address the congressman's comment that israel is a racist state? to come up at all in the conversation with president herzog? >> they are currently having a conversation right now. >> did it come up in his car within us and in yahoo yesterday? >> the president has been very clear. i kind of stated this at the beginning, the united states and israel's relationship is a special one. there's a special bond, a commitment, and its commitment

to israel's right to exist, security, and its legitimacy. that's one of the reasons the president spoke to the prime minister yesterday and is having this important meeting with the israeli president. they are going to have a conversation on how we continue to grow that special relationship, as it is laid out. 75 years, israel independence is being celebrate of this year and it's important we continue that relationship. >> yesterday, kirby had said you guys were glad that she apologize. but what we didn't hear was any condemnation of her comment from the white house. does the white house condemned that comment? >> the apology was the right thing to do, and we have been very clear, when it comes to anti-semitism, this administration and the entire biden-harris demonstration are clear, when israel is singled out because of anti-jewish hate, that is anti-semitism, and that is unacceptable. one of the reasons -- and they

just said this moments ago, back in may, the president put forward a competence of plan on how to counter anti-semitism. it is something that is first of a kind strategy we have not seen before, and it is comprehensive and ambitious. you've already seen the commitment from this president on how to deal with an issue that we feel is incredibly unacceptable. so we have been clear on our record and clear on speaking against anti-semitism throughout this administration when we see it. >> of the white house does condemn that comment? >> i just said, any time anti-jewish hatred is said, that is anti-semitism and we find it to be unacceptable. but at the same time, we think it is important that the congresswomen did indeed apologize for her comments, and we are glad to see it. >> i didn't hear whether it was a "yes" or "no" to that question. in another vein, there is vote

happening in the house today, a resolution saying that israel is not a racist state or an apartheid state. as the white house want to stay strong supporters of that resolution? >> first of all, we condemn anti-semitism. anytime there is anti-jewish hate, we condemn it. we have been very clear answering your question. as it relates to anything going on in the house, i would refer you to the house. again, i cannot be more clear. you have the president right now meeting with the president of israel. a very important meeting that they are having. they are doing a bilat right now. he's going to make a special bond and commitment . it is very deep, and it started when he first walked into government. >> i hear you. and i'm sorry to push you. >> we just went back and forth -- >> democrats don't want to take action against other democrats

when they have to apologize for something like this. there has been criticism -- >> we just said we are glad she apologized. the congresswomen did indeed apologize, and we have been very clear, anytime israel is singled out with anti-jewish hate, which is indeed anti-semitism, it is unacceptable. it is unacceptable. you have an administration that has put forth a comprehensive plan to counter anti-semitism. something we have not seen in this way for many other administration. that shows the president's commitment to this issue. we are going to move on. go ahead, andrew. >> thank you, karine. two questions. is the president satisfied with the pace at which -- >> sandra: a couple bit of big news items that were addressed there in the briefing room. most notably, one of the last questions about congresswomen pramila jayapal's comments

regionally. and there was a comment about that, karine jean-pierre talked about the one-of-a-kind anti-semitism plan just days after jayapal called israel a racist state, asking if it even came up with the israeli president who is behind closed doors with the president at the white house right now. >> john: and creating john pierre saying, "we are glad she apologize." that there is no place for anti-semitism, that the relationship is unwavering, unshakable. so it's a clear signal from the white house that it does not appreciate what the left wing of the democratic party is saying vis-a-vis israel. i don't know if it's going to tamp it down or not. jayapal did walk her comment back a little bit, saying she doesn't believe that israel is a racist state, but then she went after the netanyahu government saying that she was concerned about that. also some news about the soldier

who walked across the dmz into north korea. the white house and the pentagon are anxiously trying to ascertain the status of that person. i don't know why anybody would think it would be better to go to north korea than to face whatever they were going to face in south korea, but that's what they chose to do, so we'll see how this winds up. >> sandra: and on the massive amount of money that the college loan debt relief is going to cost the american people, kjp saying these borrowers are owed this relief. he will dig into that with our economic panel in just a moment. several pandemic area safety programs, speaking of which, will be coming to an end, and could put a squeeze on millions of american families who have been relying on these measures for years now. but it's those emergency programs that have been holding this economy together. let's bring in brian brenberg, taylor riggs. first, can i get your response to that?

because now we know this is going to cost the american people a massive amount of money, this student loan forgiveness. in many cases, that's going to be americans paying for that student loan forgiveness and they didn't even go to college themselves because they couldn't afford it. >> i don't know how i can put this into the 22nd they need to answer it, but the fact is that nobody who went to college is owed the money they borrowed to go there. the point of going to college is to earn a paycheck and pay it back. we are throwing money into a black hole, if a college education does not permit you, does not enable you to pay your loans back. this issue has to die at the supreme court and it's going to have to die again in the courts and probably again in the courts, because biden will not stop bringing it even though it's abundantly clear that it's unconstitutional. see go but i don't understand is they say it's helping the working class. a lot of people in the working class didn't go to college. 70% of the loans are bailing out the top 60% of income earners.

it's a lot of law school, medical school degrees. some of it is undergrad, but to your point, if you're getting of college, the like that of having a higher income than if you didn't go to college is they are. i don't know how they think this helps the working class when the facts say it's going to the top earners. >> especially when the working class is suffering through what is real wage growth. it's negative right now. kj p on those wages specifically. listen in. >> we are looking at the data from february of 2021, and what we have seen is that wages have gotten stronger, have increased. we have seen that it's been really helpful. >> that has been quickly fact-checked by many different outlets, including twitter. it earned a check from elon musk. the last time he got this on the potus account was the claims of deficit.

the president put out real wages for the average american worker higher than it was before the pandemic, with lower wage workers seeing the largest gains. that's "bidenomics." he's taking credit for what's not actually happening. january 2021, $11.39 an hour was the average hourly earnings. as of june 2023, $11.03. that is lower. the change is $0.36 per hour, a drop of over 3%. >> both of you know this, the economist don't speak in nominal terms, they work in real terms. it's adjusted for inflation. even if we happen to be going up, and inflation is going up faster, that's why we are all poor and losing money. if you think about the way economics works, it's on an inflation adjusted basis. >> i like how you put it, he's taking credit for things that didn't happen. the sad thing for him, of course, nobody buys it

because everybody feels what is really going on. what is sad, what you just stated actually understates it for a lot of families, because it is families who have bigger food purchases, bigger gas bills over the past couple of years, who really feel now, i am out of savings and treading water, and that's why you see them going to things like buy now pay later plans, credit card bill is going up, and worst of all, dipping into 401(k)s. that's the least efficient way to pay for your groceries and that's what's happening right now. >> we have done some interesting studies on our show. auto delay could see in credit card delinquency, how late you were in paying those, they are still approaching 2008 levels. remember what happened in 2008. the fact that we are starting to get there and it is now starting to impact not just the lower income earner but the higher income earner, as well, that is something i think economists are a little worried about. >> sandra: i think it's a fair

point. this was on their program yesterday from illinois. listen. >> american workers and families know that there has been progress in lowering inflation. they know the job market is stronger. they know that they have more purchasing power than perhaps before, to be able to buy the things they need. but things aren't where they need to be still. >> sandra: that was an admission. while some things have improved, you have to point out, they have improved from the highs under this it administrations policies. let's not leave that part out. real quick, final thought. >> and he always does the math talking about the compounding rate of inflation. because it comes down to just 3% off of a high of 9%. that is still a high. >> nobody's got better purchasing power now than when biden took office. i'm sorry, that's not true. >> sandra: it shows up in the polls. thanks to both of you. john? >> john: national security

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that guy made this place a special place to come to school and gave as much as he could to help the community. >> john: the house select committee on china is eyeing a new target, uc berkeley. staring down a congressional deadline to hand over documents related to its ties with chinese institutions. house lawmakers warning the partnerships are advancing the communist nations goals when it comes to the military and their economy. let's bring in massachusetts democratic congressman seth moulton, who serves on that committee. he says this institute is called the singh aubrey clinicians and institute. what are your concerns? >> we are not in to make investing to support chinese

military technology. that should pretty obvious. many of the technologies coming out of this partnership have what we call dual use capabilities. so they might be a be ostensibly for civilian use, like developing a civilian ai program, but they could be used for military use, as well. that's why we have so much concern. >> john: i'm not sure if we heard specifically or if it was never confirmed, believe heard about dual use technology being on that balloon that over flew u.s. airspace earlier this year. a letter from congress mike gallagher and virginia foxx to the president of the university of california and the chancellor of berkeley says in part, "this institute gives the people's republic of china access to riches to an expertise which they can then use their economic technological and

military advantage." berkeley is one of the crown jewels of our higher education system here in the united states. should we be giving china so much access to it? >> this has been a concern across the country. i was very outspoken years ago but another program called the confucius institute's, including in massachusetts. of course the intent of these programs is to exchange knowledge, to learn in both directions, and ultimately increase the knowledge of the world. but the problem is we have got to be realistic about how the prc might be using with a gain from this. in this case i think this program clearly needs to have much stronger guardrails to make sure they are not investing in technology, not helping china develop technology that ultimately could be used against us in a conflict. >> john: the letter goes on to say that collaboration could be circumventing restrictions that

the united states currently has against china. it says in the letter that tbs eye is collaborating with prc universities and companies that the u.s. government has banned from receiving sensitive u.s. technology which raises concerns about whether they may be helping such blacklisted actors to access such technologies. some of the funding apparently comes from the defense advanced research projects agency. and you have to wonder, why would they be involved in anything china is involved in? >> i think it's pretty easy to see how these things start. you have academic partnerships with universities all over the world, because we benefit from this partnerships. there are some areas of technology where, sadly, china is ahead of us. one place they've been putting a lot of government investment is into artificial intelligence. we know ai is really important across societies. see you can imagine a partnership like this starting in part because we have some things to learn from the chinese to help catch up with them. but if the end results are where

it gets to today, that we are helping the chinese developed technologies that we don't even have ourselves, or that they are getting technology from us that they wouldn't otherwise have, then that puts the united states in a dangerous situation. in other words, partnerships can be started like this are very good reasons, but they have to have strict guardrails and they have to make sure the universities are falling those guardrails so they don't get to a point like we are concerned with about this partnership. spew in our producer, emily jones, forwarded me what i thought was a pretty stunning statistic that china is the largest source of foreign donations to u.s. higher education since 1992. it's made 2,310 donations totaling more than $3 billion. very quickly, if i could, congressman, how is that not buying your way to american technology? >> that's exactly what they're trying to do. china has had this philosophy a while. they knew our higher education system is the best in the world

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believe the military did not look at all the evidence. the centcom report concluded there is no gunfire during the bombing, but a small bullet hole is found in one of the service member's belongings after it was returned to the family. >> sim cards, photos on the phone, photos on the tablet, were all missing. even so much as the autopsies being completely wrong, were not enough information. >> probably the most damning part is that the belongings of these soldiers and marines, they went through them and removed the cards in their phones and in their go pros and so on. >> on march 8th, former marine sergeant tyler vargas andrews, a sniper who was wounded at abbey gate, testified he and his teammates believed they had

spotted the suicide bomber earlier that day. but their leaders did not know who could authorize shooting the suspected bomber. military commanders say it was so chaotic at abbey gate that to authorize such a shot could have led to a s stampede. >> both myself and my team leader asked for engagement authority and he responded that he did not have that authority. talking with him and keeping eyes on this individual over the course of 30 minutes, the individuals both disappeared into the crowd of thousands. >> u.s. central command conducted what is known as a 15-6 investigation into the bombing, presenting it on february 4th, 2022. it included videos, and they spoke to more than 100 eyewitnesses. john? >> john: do you think this could have possibly been avoided? to for the families. sandra? >> sandra: los angeles mayor karen bass is putting her political reputation on solving

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look from 2011 to 2020 alone, the county spend 6.5 billion in the homeless population doubled in size during that ten-year time period. the state spent $17 billion over the last three years. only to see double digit increase in homelessness. they're creating the perfect storm that allows all the homeless from the entire nation to come for california for the great weather, the great views and suckers in the public sector throwing out money like candy. somehow i wonder why the problem doesn't shrink. it's incentivized. people are profiting from homelessness and it won't change until they change the formula on the ground. >> martha: people are fed up. she's says they will expedite the process of building more housing. they're going to call for corporate citywide planning to respond to the homeless crisis. seems like more of what they're throwing at the problem.

what is the solution? >> you have to do simple things. you have to build emergency shelter capacity. you have to force the homeless to take shelter, either the emergency shelter or build. mental health capacity. you have to force people to those facilities. you cannot give them the option to stay on the street. that's what they're going to do. as long as they have the option to do whatever they want, people will do whatever they want. >> sandra: some of those redents on this program say it's easy for them to stay there in some cases. it's just a huge problem for so many right now. thanks, alex. we'll have you back soon. >> thank you. >> john: a sea lion had enough of living in an aquarium. one worker got too close when he decided to get out. that video next. ther. get in.

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>> john: have a look at this video. a 750-pound sea lion tried wiggling out of his pool. she tries to stop him. he weighs a little more than she does. just missed landing directly on her. the two of them were okay. she even gave the sea lion a pet there at the end. goodness, sandra. >> sandra: the task of getting the sea lion back in the water. unbelievable. thanks for joining us on "america reports." i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts. "the story" with martha starts right now. >> martha: thank you, john and sandra. this is "the story." i'm harris faulkner in for my friend, martha maccallum, who is on assignment. right now fox news sources are confirming that donald trump is the target in the justice department's investigation of january 6. you'll remember last time he revealed he had received a target letter, he was indicted days later. top republicans saying democrats are so predictable