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>> fox news alert. we're just one hour away from what house republicans are billing as the biggest hearing yet in their biden family investigation. the house oversight commit see set to hear testimony from two i.r.s. whistleblowers who allege the d.o.j. hunter biden investigation was grossry mishandled and riddled with political roadblocks. this is "outnumbered" i'm kayleigh mcenany hear with harris faulkner and leslie
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marshal and host a podcast tudor dixon and douglas murray. oversight chairman james comer is calling them his a-team. we know the identity of one of the whistleblowers that gary shapley, the other thus far has been identified as whistleblower x. his identity, though, will be publicly revealed next hour and for the first time. at the hearing mr. x has been we learned with the irs for 13 years and he describes himself as a whistleblower compelled to disclose the truth. irs agent's attorney is vouching for the credibility of the two men coming forward. >> these are extremely credible investigators. gary is the supervisor of unit of 12 elite agents that investigate tax crimes.
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the other whistleblower, whose identity will be revealed today is a case agent for the hunter biden cas case. this is the a team, folks the irs put at the tip of the spear to find tax evasion conspiracies. >> kayleigh: one hour, we will learn who mr. x is, his identity. i read mr. x's opening statement this morning. if del care u.s. attorney david weiss followed doj policy as stated in his most recent letter, hunter biden should have been charged with a tax felony, not the tax misdemeanor charnl. why wasn't he charged with the felony? 3 allegations laid out in the opening statement. a search warrant in december of 2020 of this unit and hunter had belongings in northern virginia,
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that information was stymied. the assistant da objected to the warrant and reached out to hunter biden's lawyer and told them about the storage building. he was pursuing an interview with the biden adult children and assistant district attorney said it will get us into hot water if we interview the president's adult children. final allegation, someone had to sign off on every move. mr. x said to the assistant u.s. attorney, i don't understand why senior management is needing to approve every single document request or written interview. pretty big stuff. >> yes, i mean, the obvious answer, that was happening in order to slow the investigation down. everything in recent days has
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shown this. "new york post" had an editorial yesterday about the fact authorities wanted to knock on hunter biden's door, were told no, wait for him to call you, which is standard of justice most wouldn't get there is attempt to stymie the investigation, hope it goes away, slow everything down, slow the process down. that is quite different from the normal process anyone else is put through. >> kayleigh: mr. x is irs criminal investigator, 13 years as special agent, identifies as democrat and calling for accountability and reform. >> harris: you want to talk with people who can be -- not neutral, no one is really neutral, we all have a point of view. his point of view is about getting to the facts and presenting them and by knowing how he voted in the past, maybe
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that communicates that. the history of on his resume. they would be able to pick up on nuances to see if something was different and have experience, especially in supervisory capability, they would be in the chain of command and know what flub or malfeasance would look like. you have the former fbi agent who came forward to corroborate some of what they are saying, three important voices on capitol hill today. i was hoping and i said to representative pat fallon, i hope it will not become a circus part 16 with democrats jumping in. that is important, just give the facts. >> kayleigh: mr. x says this, we will hear this next hour, i recently heard human elected
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official say i must be more credible because i am a gay democrat married to a know ma. i am no more credible know that the man sitting next to me, presumed to be gary shapley. i have heard from some that i am a traitor and causing division in our society, if you were put in my position with the facts, you would be do the exact same thing, regardless of political affiliation. wow, powerful. >> powerful, when we look at someone willing to step out like this, he knows the repercussions. we will know what he looks like and the country will have an opinion one way or the other. when you step into starbucks, you are that guy. he was saying this is wrong and needs to be righted and i find that interesting and want to hear what he has to say. >> kayleigh: go to incentive
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here, this individual has zero incentive, he had to find an attorney pro bono, he lives in ohio. he has to pay out of pocket. he is free of losing his job. what incentive does he have other than telling the truth? >> he doesn't have incentive, the problem i have, he wasn't in the room on the 22nd. if you corroborate and you have shapley saying one thing and mr. x at the moment, until revealed, saying, i concur and i back up everything that he has said, but you weren't in the room. >> kayleigh: gary shapley supervisor signed off, you have a supervisor saying correct. >> mr. x is stating things and backing up mr. shapley with regard to a meeting he wasn't present on october 22nd.
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saying mr. weiss said certain things, it is shapley versus david weiss and whose word. >> kayleigh: we laid out and can put it back on the wall. the assistant da, that is what gary shapley was alleging, that doesn't mean it doesn't back it up. >> not saying it doesn't back up entirety, key part of this testimony is what was said or wasn't said by mr. weiss and mr x was not in the room and can't say who is right. it comes down to he said, he said, in that room on october 22nd, largely -- >> kayleigh: he is he said, they said, somebody else signed off on gary shapley's notes, it is they said versus he said. >> mr. x was not one and not present. >> kayleigh: backs up storyline, no search warrant, he backs up the story line.
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>> harris: you have fbi employee doing this, too. if you tipped the transition team, there is paper trail and i asked congressman fallon about this yesterday and they will come forward with additional facts, fallon will be doing some questioning today on the committee. they are going to come forward with corroborating facts to what the gentlemen are going to say. i agree, you want someone present there, we don't know what we don't know. we don't know if there are recordings just like we don't know who mr. x is, only bits and pieces about has resume. when you tell me you tip off presidential candidate transition team and people are told not to go after the president's son for an interview unless he calls you, when you -- it is about what you did and didn't do. i think more important than what they said and didn't say. it goes together, laid out 1
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p.m. eastern. >> kayleigh: and gary shapley was in the room, we'll hear from them. anyone else, people are waiting. there we go, 51 minutes, hearing will begin 1 p.m. eastern time, we'll bring it to you when it happens issue plus optics unavoidable. president biden sighted with no cards in a sut down with israel's president, and our allies and enemies were all watching. that is next. ly? get ready for a shock. the rate on credit cards is now over 22%. if you want to save hundreds of dollars every month, pay off the balances on your high rate cards with a lower rate va home loan from newday usa. and get the financial peace of mind every veteran deserves. no one takes care of veterans like newday usa. i brought in ensure max protein
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last week we saw our president stumble at the nato summit and skipping an important dinner with world leaders to get some extra sleep and confused iceland with ireland while speaking at a news conference. >> president biden: denmark and ministry, daughter of ireland. you can tell that freudian slip. >> harris: teach him. president biden snapped at reporter from finland. >> are you worried instability in u.s. will cause -- >> president biden: let me be clear, i didn't say we can't guarantee a future. no one can be sure what they are going to do. >> harris: the president sat down with israelis president
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isaac herzog, an important meeting, make good after the president called his nation extremist. he called benjamin netanyahu, clean up on aisle seven. god bless, he was spotted uses note cards to get through the meeting, a meeting that was just a hello woman. he struggled with major cities in the middle east and some was incohearent. >> president biden: brought israelis and palestinians together at political level and -- and shom. >> yes. >> harris: kayleigh, it is not funny, i tweeted yesterday, someone needs to check on our president right now seriously and i meant it. i am not a doctor, i am a loved
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one of someone i wouldn't want to see in that position. he's tired, i guess, we needed to make good with our strongest ally yesterday. he was incoherent yesterday, people can go waufrp watch it. >> kayleigh: it astonishing to watch him. does he do this with xi and putin? only reason he can get away with things like that, people like "new york times" cover for him. in june, some who accompany him express astonishment at his ability to keep up. does this look like guy you are astonished as him keeping up? no, this is someone woefully behind. frailty and nibbling of a child that happened yesterday. does anyone in america think it is good idea to give this guy four more years? this is what you are voting for. how is this good?
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>> harris: we have talked brass tacks about your party, what is your take? answer kayleigh's question there. >> i've seen democrat, republican, near 80 or closer to 50, that made mistakes as to where they are going, where they are. names of vegetables, names of cities or towns, i've seen that. not just a democrat, as a voter, i don't look at whether note cards are teleprompters because i am not perfect. >> harris: you do hours per day shgs, you are amazing. >> and not the president. >> i will never be president, i guarantee that. for me, i care about policy and i care about what has been done and what i heard herzog say before and after president biden spoke was awesome to me as an
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american with regard to israel as an ally and remains one of our strongest allies and we heard from herzog's lips himself. >> douglas: i suggest be careful not to overstate the president's incapacity. whenever we criticize him doing too much, he can turn up and do a reasonably okay job and that is because expectations have become so low, but the president getting on the stage and making it to the lect your honor is seen as triumph. i think the republicans have to be careful not to overstate the case and yet, you see something like this yesterday and you think it is hard to overstate it. he looked one point, deep in prayer almost. mumbling in his lap with hands together. it is terrible for the world stage, all the world leaders look and do not see strength.
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>> harris: look at what iran wants to do to us right now and always wanted to do to us. israel is on that side of the world and you never want a moment coupled with jayapal, the far left congresswoman who didn't just say hateful words, called them racist. we have to show them we in america have their back. >> harris: show them you can have somebody's back. >> having their world leader clean it up is not an excuse to mumble through. one thing to have a note card, another thing to read from the note card and not understand what happened. he doesn't have an understanding, someone has written it out for him. we honor the president, we hired
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it was released last week and features video from the blm riots in 2020. ♪ spit in a cops face, stomp on a flag, you think you're tough. try that in a small town. see how far you make it down the road. >> kayleigh: critics online and in the media say aldean is promoting violence and glorifying lynching. cmt pulled the song from rotation. aldean said, i've been accused of releasing a pro-lynching song, that has been out sentence may and i direct quote. it is meritless and dangerous, not a single lyric talks about
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race or points to it and the clips are real news footage. others can interpret the music, this goes too far. try that in a small town, for me refers to feeling of the community i had growing up where you took care of your neighbors, regardless of background or belief, they were our neighbors and that was above any differences. harris. >> harris: i had a discussion about this earlier with someone in the green room. my point is the market will decide. cmt can do what it wants, it its own entity and award show. there is music that is offensive, can we find something that doesn't rhyme with trigger. there is really nasty stuff. but the market decides, don't listen to it if you don't want to, don't buy it, you have choices. i don't want us to go down the
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road stepping on free speech the way comedy has been stepped on and cancelled. the market will give us this. jason aldean is not telling anybody to do anything, some music treads the line on that. but if we start to do that, look at everything, not just country music, look at rap and everything. >> kayleigh: rap music, exactly. to the point of the market, saw billboard chart tweet, pull it up, number one on country charts, that happened and then this happened and jason aldean reached number one on u.s. itunes, your thoughts? >> we look at this and sometimes it is hard to look in the mirror. you see what is happening with the video, news clips from what happened in america. sometimes it is hard to look in the mirror and see that, we call that in biblical terms, being convicted. wow, we don't want to be that
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nation. to your point, hypocrisy is interesting here. we hear lyrics in other songs all the time. remember when emenem said he would like to tie his wife to the bed and set the house on fire and nobody said, holy cow. we will decide, if they don't like it, they can shun it. i think it will survive. >> kayleigh: jim stewartson was fuming, he called it openly radicalizing his fan, most dangerous, irresponsible video from an artist, openly radicalizing vigilante violence. >> douglas: approach discourse, try to put best faith interpretation on somebody's words, assume they come from a good place unless they show you otherwise. what is happening in america is
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exact opposite, people are putting the worst possible interpretation on other people's words. i think, he didn't like 2020 when the country was burning down, he seemed to be against that and wrote a song about it. how can i accuse him of the most horrible heinous things like being pro-lynching, only a maniac would do that. the country is filled with maniacs, and to your point about other lyrics and styles of music, i mean, there is a gym in new york, i had to say to the staff, i do not want to hear these words, i don't want to hear misogyny, racism >> harris: and most the words are not about you, when they are about you and you are on the step master going, what is this?
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>> why is that normal? >> you have a choice as consumer not to purchase it. >> first of all, everybody will get mad on twitter, i am not a country music fan. i like the song "god bless texas." i wasn't understanding, i did research and the problem that the african american community even one of my best friends, who loves country music, i called her up. she said in the video, the courthouse in that town was used for lynchings, a lot of people felt offended or in bad taste. cmt will not pull anything rap because it is not their world. the dixie chicks were cancelled by cmt and the entire country music corporation and people because they spoke out against george bush, this is not first
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time this happened. >> do you think he stood outside steps knowing it had been used for lynching and wanted to pose as pro-lynching or do you think that was coincidence? >> i don't know, it is not a good look. >> the country is filled with sites. >> as a white woman, i can't speak to someone's feeling. >> kayleigh: as someone who met his wife, this is a conservative couple and they are in pop culture and they are being target. >> cmt is -- country music is largely conservative, not all, largely. >> harris: say one thing out of left field a bit, not one african american community, there are many communities, we come from all over the planet. we know where we may have begun many, many, many years ago, i don't say one white community
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and not just one black community. >> i didn't mean it that way. >> harris: your friends may not agree with me, not because we are black should we agree. >> no, i agree. >> kayleigh: if jason aldean was liberal, we wouldn't be talking about this. how liberal policies may be impacting recruitment among young americans, fox news digital is next. >> once time comes when we are considering joining and thinking the same thing, like is it really worth joining and putting our life on the line for ideologies to protect ideologies we don't agree with? i hear it all the time. people tell me they'd love to buy gold. but because it's gold - they think it must be complicated. it isn't. not with rosland capital. with rosland... the entire process from start to finish is built on one concept...
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>> harris: we know the american military is struggling with recruitment. aden does not want to follow in his father's footsteps and he blames democrats, the left, for eroding his patriotism. >> my dad was a marine officer, growing up, i had considered joining the military, my opinion was it was something that a man of honor would do and serve and protect this country that and protect values that were set and existed back then. i think things are different now. my opinion changed in my late teen years in high school, the left has successfully eroded patriotism by controlling everything like a helicopter parent.
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us youth, when we hear pride, wee instinctively programmed to think of the rainbow flag, whereas generation before me they hear pride, they thought of the american pride. that is considered offensive and we should remake it along with the national anthem and pledge of allegiance and i'm not in the mood to serve a commander-in-chief who seems to value the rainbow flag over the american flag. >> welcome to the pride month celebration. >> using right pronouns affirms identity. instead of saying hey, guys, hey, everyone or hey, team. >> that video was the start of seeing the military start to go
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down a different path. i think i rather tip toe around land mines than people's pronouns and much rather train to defeat our enemies and protect our countrymen, my countrymen issue rather than train to avoid offending protected classes. we've seen the war movies and played video games and everything and once the time comes when we're considering joining, we're all thinking the same thing, is it really worth joining and putting our life on the line for ideologies to protect id ideologies i don't agree with. >> harris: go to fox news.com, watch the entire story on how woke policy are impacting
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military recruitment among young americans. amazing work. kayleigh, it is interesting, ron desantis, governor of florida, was focusing on that. he had a news conference and talked in south carolina taking woke out of the military. he conceded maybe some americans and independents don't know what itten moos, it means getting away from what we believe as americans. that was interesting, he put it out there, let's see the left deny that. >> kayleigh: fantastic definition, we saw the military and numbers tell the story. china has two million and we're 1.4 million. you just look at u.s. army, they had toughest recruiting year since advent of the all-volunteer military.
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>> harris: readiness, take out the enemy, that is goal of the military. >> young men like this should be eager to join the military, it transforms people's life and gives them pride. there was a poll last year that showed if this country was invaded only 54% of this country would fight. why does this happen? this country tells itself it has original sin and been evil from the start, only america has evil sin, other countries don't. >> isn't that kind of an excuse, give me a break, really? people say the same thing to me, move out of michigan, if i move, how does that help the country. if he feels he is so macho, get in there and do something about it, be a part. >> 100%, we agree, i go with
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what the army says, army says decline since 2013 to now, there are barriers getting applicants. prime recruiting age, recruits are not qualified to be recruits, they are turning people away and china, kayleigh, they are communists forced to be in the military. >> harris: everybody is -- >> kayleigh: that is not sustainable. >> not because of one kid's opinion, which he has constitutional amendment right to do and say. it is not a video -- >> >> kayleigh: not just one person. >> i don't think it has to do with woke or anything like that, i think our youth is just changed. they want to work in front of their computer, not strap on gear. >> harris: last word. >> douglas: good and encouraging if america could win a war soon. >> harris: that would be helpful. speaking of war, barbie movie at
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deeply anti-man movie, tiktok feminism other than the most ana dine toxic and predatory and frames women's not on movement, but cultural revenge vehicle designed to write men out of the story all together. every male character is idiot, bigot or sad, pathetic loser. if roles were reversed and male director made a movie about how women were gold-digging witches it would be denounced as offensive. your thoughts? >> i've got four daughters and seen a lot of barbie. in the barbie that i've seen, barbie and the dream house, ken is extraordinary lye helpful to barbie and i wish ken would come to my house. i would love to have an aquarium, she comes home to a
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giants aaquarium and brought dolphins in. can more men be like 10? he dotes on barbie. >> harris: i can't wait to meet your husband. >> kayleigh: i'm all for empowering women, i love wonder woman, fantastic movie. why must you marginalize men. >> i haven't seen it, i think it comes from money. they make money. barbie is doing fine, barbie reinvents herself and movie stars make money and it is ryan gosling, who is building your aquarium. >> come to my house and build an aquarium any day. >> when i played with barbies, ken wasn't manly. >> harris: what? >> i would like women to empower
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each other and that not put each other down. if you want to read my twitter page, you will see women tearing a woman down. i think it is a movie, my daughter wants to go see it, i will not go see it. >> harris: you will not go see it? i want to see it, i think it is all scam. i think like the movie director and producer are saying, tell everybody it is on men and everybody will talk about and want to go see it. it worked. >> kayleigh: douglas, how does it feel to be portrayed as bigot and idiot and loser? >> douglas: i feel marginalized. i trust the word on that. this washed through the culture, a lot of advertisements show a family and the man is kind of pathetic, kids and wife are
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showing the man how to operate the remote control or whatever it is. and sara mentions toxic masculinity. what you just mentions has opposites, toxic femininity. there are brands of masculinity that can be toxic and brands of femininity that can be toxic. men are told to damp it down, feminize, become less masculine and what is worse? to be alpha male. there are forms of femininity people should think about, including women who are vile to other women. >> kayleigh: including femininity that marginalizes mother hood. >> harris: my mother used to say, god rest her soul, you know who can tear apart a woman more than anybody on the planet? another woman.
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i was told my small business wouldn't qualify for an erc tax refund. you should get a second opinion from innovation refunds at no upfront cost. sometimes you need a second opinion. [coughs] good to go. yeah, i think i'll get a second opinion. all these walls gotta go! ah ah ah! i'd love a second opinion. no. i'm going to get a second opinion. with innovation refunds, there's no upfront cost to find out. so why not check like i did for my small business? take the first step to see if your small business qualifies for the erc. >> harris: we are just moments away from what house republicans have been talking about and calling their biggest hearing yet in their fight in family investigation. two irs whistle-blower is expected to explain exactly how the hunter biden tax investigation was marred by political roadblocks. we are going to do a quick
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lightning round now. tudor. >> tudor: pay your taxes. then you don't have the irs coming after you. could have just paid the taxes. then we would not have this, but we do, so we need to find out how deep it goes. in a way, thank you for doing this. >> harris: almost nothing compared to the felonies this would have been, had it been a regular investigation. leslie. >> leslie: excited to see the q&a, more the a, the answers that come out. you said during the break, cirque du soleil. one thing i don't like as a taxpayer, i think we see a lot of cirque du soleil. republicans do it. democrats do it. it plays out in the public eye. we watch it. we listen to it, but i really don't think it changes. >> harris: i don't want to fight with each other. it is not about the lawmakers.
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it is about getting to the facts. >> douglas: we have seen the irs weaponized. now we can see the irs arguably defendants certain people. this is something that is going to need looking into. if the biden family starts to get edged out by the democratic party, it will not be because of what the republicans are doing, but because they persuaded others to stop protecting the biden family. if that happens, it is the beginning of the end. >> kayleigh: you are about to hear from gary shapley. you are about to hear from mr. x. neither have political motives. both came forward about the risk of their job, had to pay for their own travel bills. you are about to hear them lay out a stunning set of facts. top doj level suppressing interviews with first family members like hunter biden, and you've got to ask yourself,
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other defendants in the political arena or otherwise, where they tipped off? did they get special treatment? the answer is no. >> harris: and the importance of this is of course the timing. we are in primary season, leading up to a presidential election, so getting this information out now is very, very important for voters to know what the facts are and what they are not. now here is "america reports." >> sandra: thank you, ladies. a trio of major life events in washington happening this afternoon. the white house is set to hold everything any moment now, and about an hour from now, a house panel examines the cartel crisis at our southern border. but first, all eyes will be on another hearing set to begin any moment now as two whistle-blower is alleging interference in the hunter biden probe get set to speak. i am sandra smith.
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