>> hello, everyone, this is "outnumbered," i'm emily compagno, here with my co-host harris faulkner, "fox and friends first" co-host carley shimkus, fox business correspondent gerri willis and retired u.s. marine bomb tech and author of "unbroken bonds of

battle" joey jones. new report suggesting the president knew more about hunter's foreign business dealings than he's admitted to the american people. there could be bombshell testimony coming from hunter biden's former business partner, devin archer. a new report in the "new york post" reveals he plans to tell lawmakers hunter put his father, the then vice president, on the phone with business associates at least two dozen times. miranda devine writing, hunter biden would dial in his father, then vice president joe biden into speaker phone. according to testimony expected before congress this week from devin archer, the first son's former best friend. that is different from what the president has been telling us

over the last four year. how many times have you spoken to your son about overseas business dealings? >> never spoken about overseas business dealings. did hunter biden commit a crime? have you spoken to your son? >> i'm confident. >> you think the stories from the fall about your son hunter -- >> yes, yes, yes, god love you, man, you're a one-horse pony. >> emily: a stark contrast, carley. >> carley: big time. one of the videos standing out to me is that video we've seen of joe biden admitting and bragging about the fact he got the ukrainian prosecutor fired by threatening to withhold a billion dollars in u.s. aid. he said the guy was corrupt and had to go.

knowing now about hunter biden on the board of burisma and according to testimony from devin archer, putting his dad on speaker phone, you need to help my bosses and a few months later, the guy investigating burisma getting fired, that may be the most brazen admission ever. if joe biden feels protected, it is for a reason. think of what the whistleblowers testified to last week saying they tried to look into the big guy and were told no, they couldn't look into dad or the big guy. what comes of this information that the oversight committee and james comer is doing and collecting and the answer might be nothing. there are so many forces working against them. >> emily: joe, the breadth of the conversation, hunter's party trick, according to expected testimony we will hopefully hear from devin archer, seem to be his mo, every business meeting

he would have or with hopeful investors, he loved to throw that cell phone on the table and call his dad. not every single time did he say who he was sitting with, it is not clear if the president knew who was sitting there all 24 times. it is astonishing how cavalier the first son was using that influence. >> joey: that is his rel van, that is all he has to offer. democrats will continue this line of well, this is a he said, she said, the whistleblowers went so far to say it is misinterpretation. this is what it meant, they

tried to man splain. and look at the top, they said it is not real, it is real. tony bobulinski had broad array of things he's alleged and brings some evidence to back it up and devin archer, if they go after his character, the fact he was best friend of hunter biden, i don't know if i will trust him very much. if he's saying the same thing others are, you have to acknowledge this is real. >> emily: no honor among thieves, not everyone was clean. point to 60 million fraud charges associated with devin archer. >> joey: if these men are thieves, we are the ones they stole from. >> emily: it is undeniable there is industry, grotesque one in washington, d.c. that uses

influence as actual currency. not sure why democrats think they can get away with trying to explain the entire process when it is before our eyes. >> harris: that is their party trick. that is what they do. who needs best friends when you have a few cronies you have known for 50 years and serving the country you can count on, you have dirt on them, too. come on. at bottom line of all of this is what joey just said fchl they stole anything, it was our money. that is why we want to know what happened. we want to know what type of things were promised on calls that didn't have anything to do with money. i'm concerned about national security. republicans are running out of time. former acting attorney general under president trump matt whitaker was on a little while ago, he said it is unfortunate devin archer does not want to show up three times, his

attorneys are probably telling him to weigh out the evidence. they get ready to take a break so house oversight committee that has subpoena and powers, their biggest opponent is the clock. i've been saying this for weeks, if not months, we need to see the evidence and see it now. it is about to become too close to an election. that is the next thing said, matt said it today and he's right. what is the window on that? he said, i like 90 days. we'll see. >> emily: gerri, we enjoyed view of hunter biden's sugar daddy on that bong in l.a. >> gerri: how in the world, are people not cognizant how they are coming across in the media. something harris said cronies, crony capitalism from the white

house, might have been favors and policy direction taken because of money that flowed to the bidens, that is big question. follow-on for the economy, let me tell you why. why do companies like to do business in usa? not because they are nostalgic, you can be treated fairly and sue if you are not. from the white house, people are treated differently for different reasons and has bad effect on corporation view of the usa. >> harris: interesting. >> emily: weirdly, it has not impacted price and value of hunter's art that is correct is immune from other economic impact. we will keep you posted on all developments. coming up issue vice president kamala harris accused of telling a sick lie and gaslighting voters about florida's black history curriculum. stay with us. ♪

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>> harris: monday feels like friday, but it is not, it's monday. a fierce and growing debate over florida's history curriculum. vice president kamala harris put herself in the middle of it and made the decision to take a last-minute trip to jacksonville, florida to go after board of education standard on teaching about slavery. watch. >> in the state of florida, they decided middle school students will be taught enslaved people benefited from slavery. they want to replace history

with lies. high schoolers may be taught that victims of violence of massacres were perpetrators, they insult in in an attempt to gaslight us and we will not have it. [cheering] >> we will not have it. instead they dare to push propaganda to our children. this is the united states of america, we're not supposed to do that. >> harris: i flew here on your dime to tell you that, so left wing media could double down on my own narrative, me said her. watch. >> free housing, permanent employment and all you can eat cornbread, board of education florida want you to see that and think slavery wasn't so bad. >> if you say there were benefits to slavery, there were benefits to women being subject to abuse and home enslavement.

>> it is humiliating. >> this is the game they have been playing, trying for white supremacy, trying to unname it and indoctrinate children. >> harris: from morning to night they picked up on that narrative. critics are firing back claiming the left is honing in on one portion that talks about slaves developing skills in an attempt to mislead and as the vice president said gaslight america. >> this is a completely made-up deal. i looked at the standards and analysis and every instance slave was used and read statement of african american standards that wrote this, not ron desantis, the scholars much everybodies this is fabricated issue. look how quickly kamala harris jumped on it. the fact this is her best moment, fabricated matter,

pretty ridiculous. >> harris: if they had written about the crisis of the southern border, if she was going to jump on a plane and go where something was on fire. separate fact from fiction, go ahead. >> gerri: right, and you quoted curriculum correctly on this idea of slaves getting skills during that period they used later. that is in the curriculum, it is more than that. i didn't read all 260 pages of this, i did read some and give example of what is more even-handed. entire module entitled resiliency and contributions of african american from the colonial era to the westward expansion. there is more going on here. we have to tell the story from various points of view. if you study history, you know it is complicated and nuanced and have to tell everybody's point of view and make it clear

there was a lot going on. there is more to it than that. >> harris: joey. >> joey: i tend to agree, if you ask a gen-zer, if they knew there were members of congress that had been slaves for 40 years, they would say, what? no way, didn't the south lock them up and keep them there? you have to tell the full story. reconstruction was terrible as it was, not just because south treated former slaves badly, the negotiate treated who was left badly. not saying they were victims, i'm saying bad stuff rolls downhill and politics influenced how people were treated. tell the entire story about reconstruction. liberals have us believe we went from civil war to 1960's, not have us believe for 100 years we were moving in the right direction. not in the right place, but

moving in the right direction. i learned eshg the emancipation proclamation did not free the slaves. there was slave trade in asia, europe and slave trade in south america at the same time there was slave trade in the u.s. and i believe liberals would have our youngest believe we were so evil from inception, we were the only ones doing evil. not to excuse our evil and slavery is evil, by all means. treating people like cattle is beyond evil, worst thing i can imagine. you have to dive into what this really means and this curriculum from bullet points i read, dive into that. specific point of i think 94 curriculum points from my understanding pointed toward saying this is what slaves had to work with once they were freed. >> harris: the reference in new

florida black history standard, instruction includes how slaves developed skills which could be applied for personal benefit. ca carley >> carley: it is jarring to read the two conceptses because they don't belong together, i understand criticism, especially if all you do is listen to kamala harris, who pointed to that specific bullet point. first bullet point of what students learn, positive influence and contribution by african americans and examine services of african patriots during the era and examining underground railroad, there is a lot in there. another thing i want to say about the curriculum, it is interesting that you can in this day and age tell it is curriculum attached to a

conservative state. it is unfortunate we have states teaching differently, there is a section that asked how trading slaves developed in africa, how europes were sold into slave and slavery was used in asian countries. some want to believe it is an american thing and it was a worldwide thing. a worldwide sin. >> emily: i think this underscores how it seems there is inability to appreciate the nuance, the thoughtfulness, uniqueness of every viewpoint and being perpetuated by this president and this vice president and underscoring your point this is a deep and holistic discussion about discussion and what learning from the past is so we can move forward and it doesn't help to have the vice president singular narrow down, misbroader point

and hone in on something and ascribe to the governor. i'd like to point out d dr. frances rice, law degree, lieutenant colonel has incredible back story and blames democrat party for perpetuating racism and segregation and she is diminished by the democratic party because she's republican and for some reason her skin color it matters les to them because she feels that her thoughts are different, not in lock step with the democratic party and dr. allen was incredible scholar professor, i thought he had a beautiful comeback to those saying you can't certainly have that point in there. he says, i think if to be amended, that would erase history. my great grandfather came from

the island and he was instrumental in producing for his family, descend antss and ability to prosper in this country. we derive benefit from his resourceful know, anyone trying to change that language, would diminish my great grandfather changed that. his voice matterses, he is a scholar behind the curriculum, i wish liberals would respect his opinion. >> harris: i wish she would read the rest of the document issue the vice president and as i listen to each of you, i realize the conversation we're having here and i often feel that way about this show when we go deep, is bigger and better than what our leaders are trying to have with us. if she feels insulted today, so do we, we deserve better. try that in a small town singer

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american. i love our country. i want to see it restored to what it once was before all this started happening to us. [cheering] >> i love my family, my country and i will do anything to protect that, i'll tell you that right now. >> usa, usa, usa! >> i saw country music fans rally like i've never seen before and it was pretty bad -- to watch, i have to say. thank you so much. >> emily: joey, what do you think about this? >> joey: i think jason aldean needs to quit explaining and keep singing. not saying he was wrong, don't explain yourself. if you make half the country mad, you can only make the other half mad by explaining it.

i hope he feels supported and it looks like he does. not just from fans. i work for zach brown, nothing to do with politics, not ascribing politics at all, he was a mentor and taught me business today. zach wouldn't have a career today if he hadn't bucked the system and stood up to nashville and stood up to sony and all those big machine came from l.a. into nashville, took it over and created puppy mill song-writing rooms, where you get six writers together and give them words like camp fire, blue jean, used to be bud light. write this song and give to the next 21 year old and we'll make money off of them. country music, pop culture, is a puppy mill of music. for someone like jason aldean to write a song like this, he

bucked that entire system. there are layers to why this is not accepted. for cmt, there is an executive that has been told, don't touch this, this is a concerted effort and glad he is pushing back against it. >> we saw attempt to cancel morgan wallen. fans said we are not buying into this attempt and this music being blacked out put him number one on the chart consistently and critics are arguing that is ascribing narrative to what the song means. it is not deserving of any kind of cancel culture or pausing. >> gerri: or contempt, that is what you are hearing from the left about this. my family is from a tiny town called spruce pine and we're loud and proud and i see nothing wrong with that.

you know why, if you are invested in something, you make it better and that is what i like to see. >> emily: usa is what we all are. >> harris: yep, those are my pronouns, we all know it. i loved what you said because it is right where you said it is. don't apologize and don't explain. when you go to crowds like cincinnati and people surprise you with how much support they have in this moment, say thank you, i love you, god bless you, let's rock. he doesn't owe anybody anything. >> joey: do concerts in the towns that were burned, that is what he should do. >> harris: we are one great nation, no matter where we go, or he lands, he should have support and be surprised by how much support there is. you cannot convert those who don't want to be fchl they bought a ticket, don't preach to

emthis, they are already in the house and they may become more on your side when they hear the music or maybe they went out of curiosity, whatever it is, you win. >> emily: the message, carley, i love my family and the flag. >> carley: i love that moment, it was probably cool to be in the audience and hear everybody chanting usa, must be cool for him. he was standing up for what he believes and he wasn't apologizing. he was skirting the issue, everybody knew what he was talking about. one thing i think about, this should have been a nonissue the second the production company came out and said we didn't know the history of this courthouse because they didn't and everybody on twitter talking about horrific history didn't know about it until they read a

tweet that said it. >> harris: what about the other movies and shows filming. >> carley: exactly, like hannah montana and some christmas movies. less about the song and the video, more about he is open conservative, which is a sin of all sin according to hollywood and i guess now country music, as well. >> emily: why can't you chant usa at a concert? but you are supposed to at the olympics. more threatening at a country concert. >> joey: they were saying the american flag is sign of white supremacy. nothing that is sacred for the left in this your honor ko, they will kneel for the anthem, burn our flag, protest veteran funerals, nothing is sacred anymore. yield coming up, 68-year-old

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as a result. donna had worked for lowe's for 13 years. here is what donna had to say. >> the guy punched me, i grab my glasses and still held on to the carts, he punched me again and again. i don't know, i'm mixed. i love my job. i loved. i enjoyed working with the people i work with. i enjoyed helping the customers and everything about it. you have your perfect job, that was mine. >> carley: man. it is emotional to hear her talking, harris, i want to give her a big hug. you hear her going through the wave of emotion and she was the victim, she got punched in the face. she gets fired. >> harris: she got fired more than once. they have to hire her back. put yourself in the shoes of the

person. she loved her job and thought she was protecting the people around her. so many people rather get a cell phone video than help anybody, she is not that person. she has policies, you don't think other employees have broken policy, i am sure they have it on video. >> carley: we have heard stories play out before and usually the companies we hate we have this policy, we have to. someone could get hurt and you hear what she has to say and how she loved her job and she was a dedicated employee for a dozen years. i wish the policy was a case-by-case base so somebody like her could get retired. >> this is a travesty, we just watched and heard from 68-year-old woman repeatedly assaulted, felonious assault and she's unemployeed after having

oddacity and moral code disconnect from corporate policy and rules, corporation that doesn't say it is with deepest regret we have to uphold our policy and given generous severance. is there any monick emof it left. we are watching violent people, what do you think "small town" was about it, that wouldn't fly in a town with morals. that sickens me. this day and age in biden's america and district attorney towns and counties, this is what we have to watch and swallow? >> carley: the police said she didn't touch criminals, she did grab the cart and that was enough to get her fired. what happens, so much crime takes place, you go to the drug store in new york city, everything is locked up, they have to do it because of the

theft going on. the stores close down and everybody ends up being a loser except the criminals. >> you are right, i agree with you 100%. go back to this woman's case, what kind of company fires a woman for doing this. i don't understand. surely make some kind of statement and put something out, makes no sense. this woman stood up courageously, she is not young, not a spring chicken and gets beaten up and she's the fall guy issue the bad guy? yeah for it is local police who told what actually took place. i'm shocked at lowe's. >> carley: good point, usually in the story, the person takes video or tries to stop the theft from happening, in her case, she got physically assaulted and punched in the face several

times. to add sult to injury, she was fired. >> joey: who punched her? that person will probably get off with a slap on the wrist, we know who she is, she is being publicly humiliated over doing the right thing. she has more moral courage than the manager that fired her. she was trying to protect them and their way of saying thank you is to fire her, reminds me of veterans who came back from vietnam, who got spit in the face. show moral courage, don't go back to work at lowe's, lowe's is dead to me, maybe home depot will give her a -- >> carley: hope she is watching or somebody can send her this clip. >> go shop at your mom and pop hardware store. >> harris: lowe's didn't do the

right thing. >> gerri: worked there 13 years and still said she loved it. >> harris: go, donna. >> carley: elon musk just ditched the twitter blue bird for a different logo, we'll tell you about it next.

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here. join us for "america reports." ♪ >> harris: shoot the bird. elon musk just reclaimed title of the world's richest person and made one of the most visible changes to twitter since he took over. he switched logo from the blue bird to the letter x. here is what he tweeted, i guess still a tweet. and soon we shall bid adieu to twitter brand and gradually all the birds, solidifying rebranding where x marks the spot. emily. >> emily: takes me back to living in the bay area and seeing smug employees walking around with the bird t-shirt, i'm sure there is a scramble to wash if and keep it.

interesting branding, a lot of companies have x. celebrity summit cruise and a lot of corporate logos might be consumer confusion. i think impact he wanted to have fails because of that. however, i appreciate rebranding from innocuous symbol and soothing color to represent toxic cesspool that represents anything but those. >> harris: wow, joey. >> joey: i keep looking for the colors to change, haven't seen visible change. >> harris: is there still a bird there? >> carley: still a bird on the app. >> joey: he doesn't ascribe to planned roll out of marketing and does things on a whim. they are probably developing that. the guy hit home run after home run, i'm not one to question him. it is easier to say i sent a tweet or an x.

>> emily: i x'ed you. >> harris: i did x in my 20s. carley. >> carley: if you spend that much, you can call it whatever you want. he said buying twitter is accelerant to creating x, the everything app, maybe still twitter as being some place to tweet and text and order a plane ticket and order food. he wants to create a super app, that is his goal. >> harris: why not the letter e. x is taken, i'm like emily. why not e for elon. >> gerri: twitter logo is 17 years old, you don't just dump that, you spent a lot of money over time to promote it, i'm not convinced by this. people know all about it, it is something people are familiar with. maybe if you think the twitter

brand has been trashed, you want to change it. it is not on our phones yet, i guess elon is not the everything man, come on, get it done. >> harris: how do you exactly, starbucks isn't a real word, it is a word now. twitter has highest recognition on the planet for what the brand is, how do you take letter out of the ral fabet and trademark that against a recognizable brand? >> that is my point. it could be a problem for the stock. >> harris: wow. >> emily: wonder why he didn't go through refresh like sports teams, like the husky went to sleek looking. >> harris: the bird could have been an eagle. >> bird of prey. made it awesome. >> harris: or jayhawk, mythical

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♪♪ >> emily: last but not least, forget quiet quitting and bare minimum mondays, gen z got a new excuse for being late to work. some medical experts say there's a condition that they call "time blindness" that is similar to attention deficit disorder. one tiktok user tried that excuse in the real world. it didn't work out too well.

>> so, i'm applying to go somewhere, are there accommodations for people struggling with time blindness and struggling on time, they started yelling me and saying it does not exist and if you struggle being on time you'll never be able to get a job. >> harris: i don't know, when you watch the whole thing, she's really upset and somebody has convinced her it's ok and i kind of feel sorry for her, life does not stop for you, someone let her down. if it fits you, put the shoe on and go fix this. >> is this anything like when my husband talks i can't hear him? is that sort of like that? >> harris: no, that's different, i have that, too. >> now i know what i have, because whenever i say five more minutes it's like especially when i'm getting ready at a minimum, 15, maybe 25. my husband gets mad at me, i'm the victim. >> harris: it does not affect

your job. >> no, but does affect like dinner reservations and things like that, you have to look a certain way. >> emily: to harris's point, the people pushing the narrative, if you were generous to her, apparently she does not have an inherent sense of responsibility, sure she's being let down. so what are the things in the real world? >> maybe it's a collegiate, maybe somebody's paper. she learned this, she was influenced to believe it's something that she needs to accept about herself and make sure other people accommodate for it. people don't accommodate for me not having legs, they are not going to accommodate for her not telling time. the producers think we have time blindness, they are telling me right now -- >> emily: a good summer read, joey's amazing book "unbroken bonds of battle" is currently on

the "new york times" best sellers list for all the right reasons, and you can order his book on fox news books, and joey, so thrilled for you. well deserved, well earned. >> it's for the ten people in the book and read their stories, please. >> we will, it's an incredible book. jerry, carly, harris, dream time. here is "america reports." >> my son has done nothing wrong. i trust him, i have faith in him. i'm confident. my son did nothing wrong. i did nothing wrong. i never discussed a single thing with my son about anything having to do with ukraine, no one has indicated i have, we have always kept everything separate. i've never discussed my business or their business, my son's or daughter's. >> i've never spoken to my son about overseas business dealings. >> john: house oversight committee chairman james comer