is he created man for the front band which endures. he is still touring at 80 years old. shows no sign of reaching the end of the road. happy birthday. thanks at home for watching "special report." i'm gillian turner in washington. the ingraham angle is coming up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> laura: hey, everyone i'm laura ingraham and this "the ingraham angle." tonight we see rank corruption that will rock the public's trust in four areas, at the border, doj, biden family itself and even in the skies above. so for anyone still wondering why tens of millions of americans do not trust washington, well, today's dramatic news on multiple fronts provides critical answers. first, in wilmington, delaware, where hunter's sweetheart plea deal on tax and gun charges

collapsed into what i thought was a beautiful pile of rubble. >> what this means for hunter biden is that he went from a sweetheart deal to a real poison pill. i mean, he -- this is going to expose him across the board. >> laura: then about 100 miles south on capitol hill, we watched as questioning in two different hearings exposed government lies, dissembling and concealment again about what is happening at our border and in the skies above. we are going to tell you about both of these stories coming up. and, later, a disturbing episode involving senator mitch mcconnell today that's raising serious questions about his health. >> in the string of -- >> do you want to say anything else to the press? >> go ahead. >> we'll take him back. >> laura: thankfully the senator

is said to be okay but concerns linger. but, first, we start at a federal court in wilmington, delaware where a brazen move by hunter biden's attorney showed just how accustomed to special treatment the president's son really is. now, what many of us thought what might be a fairly routine plea deal acceptance by judge maryellen noreika turned into more than three hours of negotiations between the prosecutor and the biden legal team. now, ultimately, the intense back and forth ended with hunter pleading not guilty both to the tax and to the gun charges, meaning this is going to drag on for some time and, perhaps, well, drag the biden campaign down with it. and, yet, another dramatic turn today brought confirmation that the investigation into hunter biden is apparently continuing. now the doj would not give details about it. but when asked by the judge if this could potentially bring a foreign corruption charge,

prosecutor leah wise simply answered yes. that's the moment the agreement completely broke down. well, of course right on cue, the regime media hopped into action to dismiss the day's events. >> i know we said it over and over again but all these claims are unproven right now. and they have no evidence. >> say it again. >> they have no evidence that ties this to the president. >> in the long-term it probably doesn't really mean that much that we had this wrinkle today. >> laura: but the truth is on multiple fronts, this is a white house in crisis. and, as usual, this is all the white house can really say in response. >> hunter biden is a private citizen. and this was a personal matter for him. as we have said, the president, the first lady, they love their son and they support him as he continues to rebuild his life. >> laura: all right. sorry, honey, but the pity party act just does not fly anymore. nice try, though. and that private citizen, hunter biden, rolled up to the hearing

about what was supposedly a personal matter in a six car motorcade. we'll hit this developing story from all angles tonight. joining me now is saul wisenberg former deputy council. saul, briefly, what shocked you the most when you used the terms of this original plea deal? >> well, we still don't know the terms. we do not have the written plea agreements and that's the most shocking thing of all. it is outrageous, as american citizens, that we still have not seen the actual agreements that were discussed in open court. they are not confidential. they were discussed for three hours in open court. now, what we can tell from the hearing is that he was going to be given probation, that it looked like it was a binding plea. that if the judge accepted it, she would have to sentence him to probation. it would be misdemeanor

probation. the felony gun charge would be turned into pre-trial diversification with no jail time and he was going to get broad immunity that would keep him from being prosecuted potentially for anything that was uncovered during the investigation. that's really what broke this down because there was a disagreement on the record about how broad the meeting -- the agreement was, the immunity was, but, laura, that's part of the problem. they should never have brought this deal into court unless it was totally clear in the terms what the deal was, shocking incompetence. by the department of justice. what's your guess given the history of what's gone down here, which is it? i believe this is a corrupt deal. i believe this is a tainted investigation.

absolutely there is no legitimate reason for this to happen. these people are not incompetent. weiss does not have a reputation as being an incompetent person and, in particular, of the guy who looks like he is the lead prosecutor, leo wise, has a reputation as a very competent and very aggressive prosecutor. so the idea that this could be left to chance is ridiculous, the judge said two very important things today, she said these -- this agreement -- this agreement is not straight forward. that's number one. number two she said and it contains a typical provision. it's not straightforward and it contains a typical provisions that, again is unacceptable. >> laura: seemed the judge seemed skeptic of the unusual deal questioning why it had been

filed under a provision that gave her no legal authority to reject it when she asked leo wise the prosecutor if there was any precedent for this kind of deal being proposed he replied no, your honor. so, what makes hunter biden different pray tell in all of this, sol? like why would he get this special treatment and he has to admit, no, this isn't usual. this doesn't usually happen. >> well, you are talking about two different things binding plea which was what the judge was asking about initially. that is very unusual. but it certainly happens every once in a while. and what that means is, once the judge decides i'm going to accept the agreement so if it calls for probation and the judge finds out when she reads the pre-sentence report oh this guy has done all kinds of terrible things he shouldn't get probation, that's too bad. she either -- if she is going to accept that agreement. she has got to give the guide probation. that's certainly very unusual

but not unprecedented but, when you combine that with this apparently weird provision which, again, we have not seen yet, where the judge on the felony gun part, the pre-trial diversion diveement where the judge decide whether or not charges would be brought if hunter biden breached that agreement and she said that's a constitutional problem. that, i have never heard of. so that is truly unprecedented. >> laura: sol, unbelievable day. thank you. great to have you on. and we just got our hands on the conditions of hunter's release. judge noreika ordered him to actively seek employment, who would have thought of that. refrain from alcohol and illicit drugs and then submit to random drug testing and he isn't allowed to possess a firearm. well, i guess he should hope that burisma is hiring again. joining us now wisconsin senator ron johnson. senator, good to see you. hunter's team is obviously scared of what may come down the

line with future prosecutions. what should they be most concerned about, given the facts of this case as they are developing? ask it the fara charge, the foreign agent's registration act that he did not register under while he was operating overseas? >> well, you know, my concern there is it's very difficult to convict a democrat in washington, d.c. under the fara statute. can you convict republicans but convicting a democrat is pretty difficult here in this jurisdiction. they should mostly be concerned about the tax evasion. an excellent article by eileen o'connor in the "wall street journal" i think yesterday she was former head of the tax division department of justice saying that any other american would be in jail had they evaded taxes the way that hunter biden does. what i have been looking for, laura, is who is going to advocate for the equal application of justice under the law? you know, obviously, the prosecution has not been doing that.

i was hoping the judge would do it. i hope she still will by just rejecting this sweetheart deal and call for a thorough investigation and an honest prosecution. because we have not had that yet. that's what i think hunter should be most concerned about is a thorough investigation and an honest prosecution. >> laura: now, i know you have said in the past, i think back in may, senator, that impeachment of the president on issues related to these activities and foreign businesses would not be appropriate but that you were open to impeachment proceedings against cabinet members such as mayorkas. has your thinking on this changed given what we have learned just in the past month or so? >> no, i think there have been a lot more details coming out. i have always felt that joe biden was unfit for office. certainly senator grassley and i in our report we showed all the vast web foreign entanglements he never should have been elected.

he wouldn't have been if the press had been honest. at this point the house is adding to the record we developed. more details. more things that tie president biden to hunter biden's corrupt grifts. it's sick to listen to the mainstream media to say there is no evidence. there is a ton of evidence and it's mounting each and every day. so i hope the house does proceed with investment inquiry. i think it will open up more evidence to them give them greater power to do the type of investigation that really needs to be done here. the fbi and the department of justice obviously are not doing that thorough investigation. >> laura: i think the public doesn't trust the fbi and the doj, given everything we have seen what they have done to trump relentlessly and how they treat this with kid gloves. it's just a no-brainer there is unequal application of justice, senator, as we played in the open senator minority leader mitch mcconnell had a very scary moment today at a press conference when he froze and he could not speak for a period of

time. his office says he is fine. but moments ago would not address if he has actually gone to see doctor. what do you know? what can you tell us? and are you concerned at all, given what we saw today? >> well, i am concerned. he had that very serious fall. just a few minutes before that press conference, i had actually talked to him at lunch. he agreed to sign my letter urging four democrat chairman to hold hearings on child sex trafficking so, you know, he seemed the way he has been at lunch but, listen, he had a very serious fall and, listen, he is in my thoughts and prayers. >> laura: all right, senator. thank you for joining us tonight. we appreciate it. now, we are going to have much more on the hunter mess including the impact this could have on his father's 2024 run. plus it was arguably the most stunning congressional testimony ever on ufos. the video of some of the most shocking revelations in moments. ♪

♪ >> have you seen the president since hunter biden showed up in federal court since the deal fell apart? did he have any reaction that he had agreed to allow you to share with us? >> i have not spoken to the president today. he has been busy, continuing to work on behalf of the american people as he does every day with

internal meetings. and so i will leave it there. >> laura: all right, busy at work, she said? well, let's check his schedule, shall we? he held no meetings today. well, the scandals aren't going away for the bidens, in fact, only getting worse. >> and they are going to dog the president for all of 2024. and as democratic pollster doug schoen pointed out earlier today there is one beneficiary of the building biden scandal. >> this is a big day, potentially for gavin newsom. he will do everything he can to project his candidacy. >> laura: joining me now is charlie hurt, fox news contributor and "washington times" opinion editor. charlie, look, they are trying their best, biden, the doj, the regime media, but this is becoming clearer by the day, is it not, what the bidens have been up to and how they got so rich?

>> oh, i think without a doubt, laura. i think the last week or two has been a real political watershed despite all of the efforts of the mainstream media to try cover this up, especially last week where you had the irs whistleblowers. i think it's starting to breakthrough in normal maybe not necessarily conservative just conservatives but regular democrat voters are starting to realize the depth of the corruption that goes through and through this entire political family -- this entire biden family who have spent 50 years in politics amassing a considerable wealth for themselves. they didn't do this on a government salary and a teacher's salary. they did this through a lot of shenanigans which are starting to become more and more obvious now. and, you know, joe biden, you know, he has always tried to present himself called himself lunch bucket joe, scranton joe a couple of names nobody but him has ever called him. but, this kind of thing where

you have the full force of the federal government pressuring the irs, the doj, the fbi, even the secret service in order to cover up the crimes of hunter biden but also the larger -- you know, the larger family and their influence peddling scheme around the world, you know, it doesn't fit with that middle class joe persona that he has put forth all these years. >> laura: well, yeah, i mean, we just have to look at the houses, you know, the family's lifestyle. we know how the obamas got rich, right, charlie, we know how the clintons got rich although the clinton foundation and all of that. in this case the press is just remarkably incurious about how the biden family got so rich when is he in public service for 50 years. i want to remind everybody because this has been lost in the shuffle, what biden said, charlie, back in october of 2019, which bass was a lot of projection, listen. >> i never discussed a single thing about my son about

anything having to do with ukraine. no one has indicated i have. let's focus on this. the fact of the matter is that this is about trump's corruption. that's what we should be focusing on. >> laura: charlie, it didn't age well he went on to talk about maybe trump has a side deal. trump's people have side deals in ukraine. i mean, he actually said that. and that was tweeted out today. i'm thinking you have got to be kidding me? trump has a side deal in ukraine? look at your son. >> yeah. exactly. you know, we went through all of these fake impeachments with donald trump over a phone call, which, of course, none of that is listed anywhere in the constitution. what's listed in the constitution? is bribery and other high crimes. but treason, bribery and other high crimes. you don't have to go anywhere farther than four square of that desks in order to see what it is the biden family has been doing in ukraine.

it wasn't donald trump. it's joe biden. but this is how these people -- this is how they do politics whenever they want -- you always know what they're up to by what they accuse other people of doing. >> laura: the finger is always pointing back at them when they are wagging it. charlie, great to see you. thanks so much. >> my name is ryan fox graves and i'm a former f-18 pilot with decorated u.s. navy. >> my name is charles grusch both in the air force and rank of major and most recently at the national geo spatial intelligence agency. >> my named is david frabber i'm retired commander in the united states navy. >> laura: now, those three men testified before congress today revealing shocking details about what call ufos but the government calls uaps or unidentified aerial phenomena. for decades these men served our country trip with honor and no one at that bipartisan hearing today called into question their

integrity or their credibility. but the testimony, it has to be taken seriously. >> uap are in our airspace but they are grossly under reported. these sightings are not rare or isolated. they are routine. military air crew and commercial pilots trained observers whose lives depend on accurate identification are frequently witnesses these phenomena. >> i was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi decade uap crash retrieval and reverse engineering program the technology that we faced was far superior than anything that we h you are talking something that can go into space, go some place, drop down in a matter of seconds, do whatever it wants and leave and there's nothing we can do about it. nothing. >> laura: they even talked about some of the g forces that they have seen which in simplest terms it's when you feel your body accelerating against gravity. >> what about g forces. let's talk about g forces of those vehicles. could a human survive those g

forces with known technology today. >> no. >> not for the acceleration rates that we observed. >> laura: and some of the claims were quite literally out of this world. >> if you believe we have crashed craft as stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft. >> by lodges came with some of these recoveries, yeah. >> were they, i guess, human or nonhuman by logics. >> nonhuman and that was the knowledge people currently still in the program? what everybody wants to know how has all of this been happening without the public discovering it and without the government being, frankly, totally transparent on what has gone on all these years with all the claims of conspiracy theories, now we are learning it just now? well, this exchange does provide a bit of an answer. >> do you have knowledge or do

you have reason to believe that there are programs in the advanced tech space that are unsanctioned? yes, i do. >> how does a program like that get funded? >> i can give you generalities i can get specific in a closed session. misappropriation of funds. >> does that mean that there is money in the budget that is set to go to a program but it doesn't and it goes to something else? >> yes, i have specific knowledge of that, yep. >> laura: yeah, it's all fungible. it's your money, taxpayers, they can pick it out of any pot they want this all together. don't expect this lack of trainers to be turned around any time soon though, certainly not from this white house. >> david grusch who sat on a u.s. air force panel on uaps he said he was informed of a uap crash retrieval and reverse program based on interviewing 40 witnesses over four years. does such a program exist and do you believe that the american people deserve to know if it does. >> i have no information on that to provide for you today one way

or the other. >> laura: one way or another. well, it's astounding as it is to hear these revelations in an open congressional hearing. the claims of intimidation. the claims of harassment to keep this story hidden from the american public, that may be actually the biggest bombshell here. >> i do have knowledge of active planned preprifl activity against myself and other colleagues. >> there were certain colleagues of mine brutally administratively attacked. i call it administrative terrorism that's their quiver, their tool in the toolbox to silence people. >> laura: this suppression campaign may have gone much further than administrative action he though. >> do you have any personal knowledge of penal who have been harmed or injured in efforts to cover up or conceal these extraterrestrial technology? >> yes. > personally. >> has anyone been murdered that you know of or have heard of, i guess. >> i have to be careful asking

that question. i directed people with that knowledge to the appropriate authorities. >> it's not just intimidation action. these accusations, they demand immediate investigation because, you know, we are funding. this we, the people have a right to know what our government is hiding from this and these tactics to cover up and, you know, retaliate against anyone who is speaking out on the issue? it couldn't be of any greater importance. and we have seen this happen time and again throughout our government. it's why people don't trust the government. this is not just a national security emergency. this is an emergency of truths, our trust in the government itself. now, in moments, could a planned biden deal with china have any relation to what we are seeing happening with hunter biden, senator marco rubio reacts after this. stay there. ♪

lawyer larr now, you know that old saying you never negotiate with terrorists? well, in a way that's exactly

what the biden administration seems to be doing right now. according to the "wall street journal," they're talking about lifting sanctions on a chinese police agency that's accused of horrific human rights abuses by the way. supposedly all in exchange for help, stopping the fentanyl crisis, of course the fentanyl crisis is what china is responsible for because they are terrorizing and killing americans more than 100,000 each year with the chemicals that are manufactured in china and then, of course smuggled into the united states in the form of fentanyl. joining me now whose son has been all over this issue marco rubio vice chair of the intel community and a senior member of the foreign relations committee. senator, given hunter's well-documented business connections to china, he received an enormous amount of money from that chinese energy interest and the fact that biden has been tied to some of those transactions, is it fair to at least ask the question?

do any of our dealings, including this one with china, need to be scrutinized further, given these conflicts? >> well, i think we need to follow those roads wherever they take us. and, if, in fact it can be proven or at least shown that any business dealings are now influencing policy we would want to know about it. everybody would deserve to know about it. that would be criminal if that's the case. what would be clear hunter biden made a lot of money for a guy no occupation. you don't pay people the amount of money he made not just from china, ukraine gifts even from russians all this kind of thing for a guy that's completely unqualified to get that kind of money. and then the way the money was distributed through a shell companies under the name in some cases kids that were barely adults or in some cases minors. i mean, if it was an r. next to the biden name, this would be the number one story in america but, instead, you know, they have tried for as long as probably up until today to keep all this under the rug and not really focus on it. it's going to be hard after

today for the media not to focus on it now there was a court hearing. now there was a judge. now there was a plea deal that was rejected because of how are you outrageous it was and other ancillary. think about it for a movement if the wind name had an r next to its name a republican where it would be on the story. dominant story. netflix documentaries about it already. >> laura: right. they've would already have the chyrons and the special graphic packages done, senator. but, just back to policy, whether it's our policy in ukraine, or just a few years ago joe biden was claiming that donald trump had side business deals in ukraine. he was actually speculating on that a few years ago, projecting, perhaps, what was going on with his own family because hunter biden was getting a lot of money from ukrainian interest. that's documented by the house actions. so meanwhile, you know, we are obviously in a proxy war right now in ukraine.

and china policy, all of it is called into question. i mean, you have financial benefits going to the biden family from these business interests. they are going to the biden family. >> i think more than just. >> and we are supposed to just say yeah. >> so i think more than just the -- i think sometimes people would think for themselves well, they paid them all this money so now in return do something nice for them. i think we need to think about what other information if you paid hunter biden all this money whether chinese company or ukrainian company. what -- this is compromising information. this is the kind of thing that you back channel, hey, we are going to release this stuff if you push too hard or don't do what we want you to do on the policy front. understand, when you do deals with these people these people have like whatever ukrainian business interest hunter biden was involved in. these people have documents. they have more information than we have right now. i'm sure they threatened, if that's the case provide it publicly and create real problems for the president. that's tremendous amount of leverage to have over a political figure. that's why things like this have to be revealed. >> and, senator, talk of

impeachment proceedings, at least being mentioned by speaker mccarthy. what is your view on that, given what we have learned so far? >> well, let me first say i'm not an impeachment -- i don't want to turn in peru that's now basically impeached the last seven presidents. we have impeachment, counter impeachments all the time that said if you listen very carefully what the speaker in the house has said that impeachment proceedings at this point is it the only process they have an evidentiary front to be able to go out and subpoena records and get documents and get information that otherwise is not forthcoming and isn't being provided because they are ignoring congressional subpoenas from the committee level level. so that's what speaker mccarthy has said. now we will see what that uncovers. like anything else, for a reason. i don't think he is saying we are going to definitely impeach him. he is saying impeachment process to generate evidence that we can't get right now because they are stonewalling us across government agencies and hunter biden and other private parties refusing to provide information that could provide more insight into all of this.

>> laura: senator, thank you so much. great to see you tonight. >> no. no. >> seriously? >> get out. >> now this type of theft, it's widespread, has gotten so bad in this country even cnn cannot ignore it. >> in the 30 minutes we were at this walgreen's, we watched three people, including this man steal. >> did that guy pay? did that guy pay? >> no. >> get. this there was nearly $100 billion documented in retail losses last year from theft. and according to the washington examiner there could be a surprising source that's driving

this explosion in retail theft cartels. it turns out cartels are targeting big box stores, luxury retail brands, small businesses and then turning around and selling the stolen goods online and then laundering their profits through chinese brokers. joining me now is derek mawls retired director of the d.e.a. special ops division. derek, i should say this is shocking but i don't think it's shocking at all. what do you think here? >> so, laura, as you know, the mexican cartels are taking total advantage of the wide open border. they have controlling the largest sex trafficking human smuggling operation in the history of the country. they are trying to maximize profits as they reduce their risk. well, right now, all the criminals in the worlds know if you come to america free benefits, have babies, get your food paid for you but they know there is no fear of going to jail soft on crime sanctuary city policies are just very very

cartels smuggling in all these gangs and operatives south of the border they are all indebted to the cartels. they are for the cartels. they are getting involved in selling drugs. getting involved in many crime activities and then have to pay back the cartels. so the more people coming in to america that are illegally here, they are going to be operating with some type of, you know, understanding that they have to pay back the coyotes and the smugglers. the gulf cartel used to say the people are the gift that keep on giving. they know they will be pailing them back for the smuggling fees that's costing to get them here. >> laura: they are brazen. they are not worried about prosecution at all. they are taking whatever they want. derek, thank you for your analysis. and joe biden's campaign lies joe plays ventriloquist. raymond arroyo has it all. it's seen and unseen and that's next. ♪

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>> laura: it's timing for seen and unseen segment. we are going to explore the lies being told as the campaign season begins. for that we are joined by fox news contributor raymond arroyo; raymond, the campaign really has begun for everybody but joe.

>> well, laura, as they dodge the first dog commander cujo biden at the white house, the staff is charging the first lady and the v.p. to campaign for the president. dr. jill was abroad telling lies i mean she was telling lies abroad in paris on your dime. >> when my husband, president biden, took office he made a promise to the american people that he would rebuild the systems that were broken, that he would work to bring divided communities back together and he did. >> he did? he brought communities together? which ones, laura? this is the president last september reaching out to have the country. >> the republican party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by donald trump and the maga republicans and that is a threat to this country. maga republicans look at america and see carnage and darkness and

despair. >> carnage and darkness. laura, the only thing they are running on is abortion on demand carnage and darkness in one package. >> laura: well, i don't think jill going out there and campaigning is going to be as attractive to the voters as they might think. i'm not sure. really want to see dr. jill campaigning. >> don't worry, kamala harris is out there as well. even though she has been corrected repeatedly by the former chairman on the u.s. commission on civil rights, african-american leader william b. allen and others, she continues to misrepresent the changes in the florida school curriculum. this is the v.p. yesterday. >> today there are knows in our nation who would briefer to erase or even rewrite the ugly parts of our past. those who attempt to teach that enslaved people benefited from slavery. those who insult us in an an attempt to gaslight us, who try to divide our nation with

unnecessary debates. >> now, laura, who is dividing our nation with unnecessary debates? the truth is that curriculum she is referring to it says african-americans were resilient, resourceful and adaptive. not that slavery benefited the enslaved. but this is what they're campaigning on apparently racial division. >> laura: well, they are also pushing the big lie that they have from the beginning that america is a horrible, awful, racist country. i mean, that's the big lie that they tell and it's not we all reject that notion and reject that alexandria ocasio-cortez. that's what they are building their whole narrative on that it's terrible under, you know, under most circumstances in america. >> it's with intent, laura, because biden is under water 30% with black voters according to the most recent "the washington post" poll. that's bad 30 point drop. they have to do something. the democrats have made a decision to sell division while talking unity, to divert

attention from a president who can barely get through an event without errors or boldfaced lies. for instance, did you know biden ended cancer? this is yesterday. >> can you do anything at all, joe, what would you do? i said i would cure cancer like why cearn cancer? because no one thinks we can't and ecan. we ended cancer as we know it. i don't know what the difference between breaking your arm and having a mental break down is. i imagine over 100 people dead, that's 100 empty chairs around the kitchen table. >> laura, i better leave now because i don't want to share the rest of what's on my mind. i don't know why it wasn't there. but, look, that may have been the best choice for him to just abandon the podium. >> laura: well, he likes to throw out numbers but as we know he never gets numbers correctly he never gets them right. never. >> no. >> laura: all right, raymond.

>> remember brought you congresswoman stacy plaskett written by the staffer seated behind her. the woman was literally mouthing every word she said. apparently ventriloquism catching on. the white house speech writers must have penned this campaign guest for to read yesterday. either joe biden is clairvoyant or finally understood the words written in the prompter, watch. >> this is what america means to me. promises made, promises kept. >> this could be a new campaign strategy, laura. they let other people read biden's speeches and he mouths along with the words he can read. this might be a good strategy. >> well, as a cancer survivor myself, i'm just really happy that joe has cured cancer. i'm just glad that that's happened. that's a moment for all of us to celebrate. raymond, thank you. good to see you. all right. the brazen lies we heard from

dhs secretary mayorkas this morning to congress, texas lt. governor dan patrick will be here and he will fire back responds to the doj's attempt to sue texas for actually protecting the border.lue- ♪

>> my republican colleagues claim the border is open. is the border open, mr. secretary? >> it is not. >> thank you, mr. secretary. the border is not open. >> having been asked over and over again, the president of the united states, the secretary of homeland security and all the hardworking men and women at the woman del mcwhorter have operational control? >> as we defined that term, congress woman, we do. >> as we define that term, congresswoman. determined what the meaning of the word is is. it's all a bunch of lies. we know 5.5 million people at least have crossed the borders and biden took office. that doesn't even include the

got aways. texas took matters into their own hands and installed that floating buoy battery. since the department of justice, the entire biden the administration wants an open border. of course they are suing texas. joining us now is up luminary injunction asking the judge for governor abbott to remove the barriers on our lawsuit is decided in court. your reaction. >> people will die if that happens, laura. since we put up those buoys, drowning deaths in that sector from october to october, last year 66 people drowned. this year 18. the el paso sector last year 22 people drowned this year with two or three because what we've done, laura, spending our

taxpayer money because the biden administration is not doing their job, we are forcing people to the bridges where they are not crossing any more but not trying to get across the river. they can't get across. they can't get over the buoys and they cannot get through the wire. we've stopped it and they want to go and sue us so that biden can hold the record seeing more people drowned on his wants than any other president in history. >> what i don't understand if they say that basically the borders under control, why would they care about the floating barrier? if no one is coming, it's under control, why does the barrier matter. >> here's -- >> here's the white house. >> they know better? >> here's what the white house said yesterday, dan, on this entire issue. watch. >> what you see the governor is doing is dangerous and unlawful. it's hurting the process of what we are trying to do. instead of coming to the table and figure out a way to come

together, he comes together to do this really cruel and unjust and inhumane moving forward. >> these people, laura, are the dumbest... they are the dumbest people, laura, i've ever seen in the administration. when you see number one, may arcus today, he has his chin up in the air like mussolini. any body language expert tells you that you are arrogant, trying to be superior to others, you are looking down at others. he doesn't know jack squat about what's going on on the border. nothing. this border, they do not have control. millions as you said have crossed this border. fentanyl coming to this country. criminals coming in this country. our law enforcement have taken in over 4 million pounds of fentanyl enough to kill every american but that's our troopers, our national guard we are paying for it. we've apprehended over 30,000 hardened criminals across the borders. 400,000... , i'm just talking about our people! not the millions they apprehend.

what we are doing is making sense, stopping people from floating across the river. these people are drowning and biden wants them to continue to drown. >> be appreciated that you are interfering with their process, all right. their process of having an open border. that's what you are interfering with. that's it for us tonight. it's america now and forever and jesse is next. todd: welcome to "jesse watters prime time." hunter biden plea deal tossed out. what it means. ufo whistle-blowers shock the nation. american lunatics. a hostage crisis. plus the queen of chaos.