>> neil: it is going to be a bit of an anomaly in this year's presidential election if it turns out joe biden and donald trump are the respective presidential nominees, a rework if you will of the last presidential election. this time they could be going into that, legal issues and lawsuits and in the case of the president of the united states, maybe an impeachment inquiry. let's go to lucas tomlinson following these fast-moving developments in washington. lucas? >> neil, first, those tax charges against hunter biden, veteran tax attorneys say most people facing charges like hunter's would be looking at three to five years in jail. of course most americans did not

have a father who is vice president of the united states and allegedly received millions of dollars from foreign sources and apparently did not pay taxes on all of it or any of it. all this coming to the fore front when hunter made that court appearance in delaware this week for what thought was a five minute plea deal. hunter was going to go in, plead guilty to the two misdemeanor tax charges and that felony gun charge. the hearing ended up stretching three hours, neil, and began to unravel. the judge asked a simple question, in essence, does this plea deal give hunter immunity from other charges? the prosecutor said it does. the judge didn't like that answer. ordered both parties to return to court next month. when the outstanding issues here in washington, does president biden stand by his long held claims he never spoke to his son about the overseas business dealings? the white house prez secretary faced more questions. she told our colleague the president was not considering a pardon for hunter. then she faced more questions. >> did they ever discuss the tax situation? >> i am not going to get into the specific of the case.

i've answered this question over and over again. nothing has changed from the statement that i made yesterday. nothing is going to change from the few times i have gotten this question in a briefing rom. -- room. we're not going to comment on this. this is an independent investigation that's being led by a trump appointed prosecutor that is being led by clearly the department of justice. >> now, former hunter biden business associate devin archer is expected to testify before congress about the president's role, if any, on monday, in that closed-door session. >> neil: there is this talk back and forth. you have gotten into it and reported on it, this idea of republicans starting an impeachment inquiry. they are handling it gingerly because few people know the difference between that and actual impeachment process. where are we on that? >> the house speaker was asked about that and seemed to backtrack a little bit saying you need a lot more evidence, more things would happen, even to look into it, neil, so right now, house speaker kevin mccarthy did not appear to be going that route.

of course as we've heard on our air many times, from those republican congressmen, there's increased calls for that impeachment inquiry because in part because of these charges against the president's son hunter. many people think the president could have been involved, and remember, the irs whistle-blowers talking about they wanted more felony charges against the president's son. other people claim the president was on speakerphone. it was like that new york post column saying it was like a party trick for hunter putting his father on speakerphone as vice president. of course that fbi document that alleges from a ukraine american informant that the president and his son each received 5 million dollars from the head of the ukrainian energy giant burisma. >> neil: a lot to unravel there. thank you very much. want to go to griff jenkins who is following the other legal hassles bedevilling donald trump. they could escalate as soon as next week and the weeks ahead what do you have for us? >> good morning, neil. the charges are piling up on the

former president, now facing three additional charges, neil, in that alleged mishandselling of classified documents case out of florida. two new charges are for obstruction. the former president accused of asking staff to delete surveillance video. there's one new charge of willful retention of national defense information that sources tell fox news pertains to a highly classified iran war document. special counsel smith also added a new defendant in this case, the property manager at mar-a-lago. he's charged with obstruction and making false statements. this one interesting exchange, in the indictment, on page 29, the property manager allegedly told another employee quote the boss wants the server deleted, but that employee responded that he didn't know how do that and didn't believe he had the right to do it. meanwhile, trump spent most of yesterday lashing out at the new indictments on social media, blasting, quote, crooked joe

biden and deranged jack smith. and then in iowa last night, he had this to say. >> if i weren't running, i would have nobody coming after me, or if i was losing by a lot, i would have nobody coming after me. they wouldn't be coming after me. >> now, this comes, neil, as we were also closely watching that january 6th grand jury in d.c. to see if they will hand up any charges. we saw trump's attorneys meeting with smith's counsel on thursday, which is usually this last step before indictments come. the grand jury didn't meet on friday and have yet to hand up any indictments, so we're paying close attention this coming week to see if there's any movement there. in all, trump is facing 41 possible charges in that florida case. that could be a maximum of 140 years in prison. neil? >> neil: thank you for that, griff jenkins. let's go to the former deputy assistant general of the united states. always a pleasure. thank you for coming in on a

saturday. tom, one thing during the course of the week that struck me among some of the comments that donald trump made is that arguing that jack smith really can't charge him for a lot of these january 6th offenses because he was already impeached for them. what do you make of that? is there any truth to that? >> you know, i'm not sure that argument will hold up at the end of the day. a lot of the things we have been talking about are subjects that were addressed in the impeachment. i'm not aware of any precedent that would say simply because there's an impeachment proceeding that touched on some of these issues that the president is then insulated from criminal charges. it is an argument worth making. at the end of the day, i'm a little skeptical that that is going to persuade a federal judge to throw out these charges. >> neil: all right. we've got these increased charges. we also have some pending presumably on the president's role or alleged role in the january 6th, you know, attack on the hill. however you want to define that.

but then there's the georgia recount of what role he might have had in that. so these are piling up. obviously they are not affecting his political standing. in fact, you could argue they are helping it. i'm wondering how he proceeds, especially with this trial scheduled for next may, and there could be other trials, at or around that time, if the president's lawyers can't push them back, where you could have, you know, a presidential candidate maybe by that time a party nominee dealing with all of this. that is historically odd. >> it is. i mean, we are in seriously uncharted constitutional territory right now, neil. i guess the first thing that occurs to me is that these judges who are presiding other these various cases will have to take turns. they will to fig our whaut the order -- they will have to figure out what the order here is. you can't anyone, criminal defendant to defend himself at the same time in three or four different criminal proceedings. someone will have to take charge and go first. it may be the mar-a-lago case. it could be the case in new

york, in state court. but it is hard for me to see the january 6th indictment assuming one is filed moving forward with the same speed as the other cases. the same would go to georgia. there's too much going on right now, and i can't imagine a judge would say you have to defend yourself concurrently at the same time in front of three or four or more criminal juries. >> neil: i would imagine, tom, that you also want to make sure whatever charges you are making, whether it's the cases we've already, you know, heard about, or the others to come, that they better be ironclad. when i hear, you know, some investigations that go back to recognizing, you know, klan era legal cases. that could be interpreted maybe as a leap and akin to some of alvin bragg's allegations against the president. so how do they navigate that? >> yeah, well, i think the federal side, and you are right that that civil rights claim was aunusual.

not something a lot of people were expecting to be overly aggressive. i think as the federal prosecutors figure out if they are going to charge former president trump in connection with january 6th and if so, what precise charges to bring. they will to be very very careful. people will be uncomfortable to begin with evaluating criminal charges against a former president of the united states. i think that level of discomfort is only going to increase if a jury is presented with these very unusual outside the box charges where there's very little legal precedent, very little guidance as to where the law is or is not or what's required or what's not, and so i think the prosecutors have to keep that in mind, and they've got to present something that is streamlined and rests on solid legal theories because the end of the day, they are going to have to prove their case to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. >> neil: finally, and i know you've been asked this. i think i've asked you a number of times. i want to be sure as we advance the ball on this, you know, obviously if these cases build, and the president's found guilty of any of these allegations that

have come up, he could still serve as president, i guess, as president, can he pardon himself? >> that is an excellent question, neil. my guess is probably not, but i will say this, it's completely unsettled. the supreme court has never decided that question, and i think if you canvas legal scholars and lawyers and people who have studied this issue for years, they will admit there's no definitive precedent going one way or the other as to whether a president can pardon himself. i think a likelier scenario here, though, would be if there's not a conviction before the election, and if president trump were to get elected, at that point, i think it goes away in a different manner, not through a pardon, but by him directing his own justice department to drop the charges, at least the federal charges, and then he would go in that background. >> neil: but in office, if he wanted to pardon himself and argue that he is in his legal rights to do so, that would be

argued out as he's president; right? >> it would be. again, more uncharted constitutional territory. >> neil: i know. >> yes, you would have a situation where the president represented by his own department of justice, his own solicitor general would be arguing before the united states supreme court that this pardon was valid. i think one other interesting question is how a lawsuit like that would ever emerge? in other words, who would bring a lawsuit challenging his own pardon? there are all sorts of complicated questions about who could even bring a lawsuit, challenging a presidential pardon like that. all of that will get sorted out by the supreme court, if that day ever arises. >> neil: man oh man oh man. tom, you are the best. appreciate it. >> thanks, neil. >> neil: francesca is joining us usa today white house correspondent. francesca, back to the other legal issues that are maybe bubbling up for president biden, regarding his son hunter, obviously republicans want this expanded and maybe given this collapsed plea deal this past week it will be expanded. justice department investigation will be expanded, if there's a special counsel, then everyone

starts looking into the president's relationship, business or otherwise with his son. so where do you see that going? >> well, earlier this week, we heard house g.o.p. leadership say that they could open an impeachment inquiry into the president down the line, but not directly committing to doing so, just saying that they could, but when i talked to republicans on capitol hill, particularly senators, they said that if there is evidence found that would rise to that level, you have folks like ted cruz saying that that is something that they would support, that impeachment inquiry, but the word that i heard over and over again, neil, was if, and where things stand right now is they are saying that while they do have what they view as some evidence, those things are uncorroborated. it is unsubstantiated. if they had it, they would have already opened one. what they are doing right now is they are looking. they are looking for anything they can find on the president of the united states. >> neil: now, a special counsel

would be a step before you get to that, but that's a big if, if even that would be started here. what do you think? >> well, again, if you're talking about what's happening on capitol hill, however, house republicans could open an impeachment inquiry into the president if they wanted to, but there's a question, neil, as to whether or not that's a step they want to take in the fall, when they have such little time after they come back from the summer recess, when they need to deal with spending and appropriations. there are some conservatives who don't think that would be the best use of their time at this point given the information they have, and they would rather go back and fight over this debt ceiling deal that had been made and try to get some more concessions from the white house. >> neil: yeah, people forget, they are in their august recess, but we could be dealing with a government shutdown yet again; right? >> right, and they're gone. i mean, they have left washington. they will be gone now until roughly mid september. then you have the end of the fiscal year just a couple weeks later at the end of september.

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>> neil: we have been talking about nasty weather, hot weather over the top weather in the country weeks now. right now craig herrera, fox weather, maybe with a tantalizing possibility that it slows down or even dare i say ends? craig what's the latest? >> craig: it might even be crisp tomorrow; right, for portions of the northeast. how often have we used that term, not often at all. also want to mention a place like phoenix, you talked about week after week of this heat. it's been prolonged; right? this is going down on record as

the warmest, potentially, depends on how we end the month, but it looks like it will be the warmest july on record for the month of july for phoenix here at 102.9 degrees. you are thinking wait a minute we have been talking about temperatures at 115, 116, this is the average high and the low. they get to 115 and 116, but only been cooling down into the 90s. in fact 97 is one of their lowest temps they got to. that's quite a stretch for them. that's one example of what's going on. they don't have the excessive heat warnings -- the excessive heat warning for phoenix and portions of southern california over to tucson you are losing this, but the excessive heat warnings over california for temperatures up to 115, same for portions of kansas and right into missouri. right over into the mid-atlantic, we have these in places as well where the heat index which is the air temperature plus the amount of moisture in the atmosphere, the humidity, you put the two together, how sticky does it feel outside? you know. you have been out there. it is just miserable. temperatures with the humidity

getting as high as 115 degrees. things change, though. you were talking about this, neil. we have got a different type of air mass coming in from canada, cooler, drier air mass is going to collide with all of the moisture that's been moving over portions of the mid-atlantic and the northeast, and it is going to fire off with some storms throughout the afternoon. got to watch this closely along the i-95 corridor. we're talking about all the way over to the mountains through west virginia into virginia as well. we could see some pretty warm temperatures. here's what we're talk about. look at the dew points. they drop into the 50s. when you drop into the 50s, neil, at this point, you are talking comfortable, crisp weather. it will be hot for the south and southwest though. >> neil: i know you don't sleep, craig because you're always on top of this. >> craig: it is too hot. >> neil: i know. thank you, my friend. craig herrera on all of that. grady trimble is looking at the impact this is having on our utility grid. it is not good. grady? >> neil, the extreme heat with

tens of millions of americans under heat advisories and warnings right now is putting power grids across the country to the test. the good news is so farther holding up, but with so many people staying inside, cranking those acs to stay cool, several grid operators are putting out alerts and in some cases asking customers to conserve electricity during peak hours. in fact, the largest grid operator in the u.s., pjm interconnection, they've issued an emergency energy alert, calling on all power plants to operate at full capacity. some in the industry say heat waves like this one highlight problems with president biden's energy policy. the biden administration is introducing policies that could limit coal and gas-fired power plants in order to speed up the transition to green energy, and at the same time, electricity demand is going up, not just because we're using our air conditioners, but also because we're electrifying cars and

appliances. the head of the industry group, the electric power supply association tells me that could lead to higher prices for electricity that's overall less reliable. >> i think consumers are the ones who will pay the price for bad policy decisions, and that's going to result in blackouts. those are the things that consumers have to deal with on the receiving end, and frankly, american customers don't want to deal with that, nor should they be expected to. >> fortunately, we have not seen blackouts yet. the grid operators have enough electricity to meet demand, but customers, neil, are on notice. neil? >> neil: yeah, they are. they are seeing the brownouts and potential blackouts. thank you for that. the guy should be impeached, thrown out of there, that's how republicans are talking about the president of the united states, although many argue give them time right now, they are gathering evidence. i'm talking about the homeland security secretary and why they say it is long past time for

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>> tired of the open border, tired of people dying from overdoses. it is your fault. it is my time. >> mr. chairman, point of order. >> no there's no point of order in the middle of this. this is my opinion. it is shared by millions of american people. you show no shame. >> based on the standard the chairman set out in previous hearings, calling a witness dishonest is over the line that you drew in a previous hearing. >> is it something that your intent to not respond to any questions of republicans? you came with that intent? >> that is incorrect, congresswoman. >> you are not answering any questions. >> neil: all right. that went well. for the homeland security secretary, he was expecting a beating coming to capitol hill. that's exactly what he got with a building chorus of folks now saying you know what? you got to go.

so far he has the president's support and probably not going anywhere unless he hems would resign -- he himself would resign. that doesn't look likely. the back and forth on that didn't end this week. we have more from washington. >> hey, neil, well plenty of house republicans want to impeach secretary mayorkas. the articles of impeachment have already been drafted up. there are still, though, plenty of holdouts, and the issue is trying to make the case. >> we're going through and understanding the importance of impeachment and what it means and making the case. and we will lay those things out. and we will work as a group to do that >> the secretary testified in front of the house judiciary committee this week where he said despite a broken immigration system, his policies are working. republicans aren't buying it, and at one point, they called him the most dishonest witness they have ever seen. >> two million people encountered and released. how many of those people have you deported? >> so congressman, a few points,

number one -- >> how many of the people? i want to know how many. just a number. >> congressman, we are dealing with a completely broken immigration -- >> i get it. mr. secretary, i'm not going to let you burn my five minutes. >> you don't know what that number is? >> mr. chairman, what i'm sharing with you is that we will provide you with whatever data you request. >> democrats say republicans don't have a case, and that they simply want to impeach somebody. >> the facts show the southern border is doing better last month than it was under trump in may 2019. thank you, secretary mayorkas for your public service and now the republicans want to impeach you? good luck with that one. >> and neil, the house is now in august recess, so if there were to be an inquiry, it wouldn't happen till at least very earliest in september. neil? >> neil: thank you for that. the texas sheriff, always good having you on. thank you for taking the time. >> thanks for having me here

today. >> neil: let me ask you about this back and forth on mayorkas getting impeached, that he's got to go. what are your thoughts on that? >> well, he's not doing the job he was hired to do. he's not enforcing immigration law. but if they impeach him, and he's removed, they are going to stick another lame duck in there, so kind of on the fence on that. >> neil: this other move that the administration is taking, i guess, through the doj, it's filing this preliminary injunction requesting that these floating river barriers in the rio grande be removed. what do you think of that? >> well, when texas joined the union, part of that promise was to protect our borders. at this point in time, the federal government is not doing it, so the governor has constitutional obligation under the texas constitution to protect our border. that's what he's trying to do. >> neil: are these barriers working to your knowledge, sheriff? >> as far as i know, i was down in that area last week. it seems to be working. it is pushing -- what it is

going to do it is going to push things further south and further north. as the increase of traffic comes around the barriers, they will extend those further north until, either a, the surge quits coming or b, we've got the whole river area barricaded off. >> neil: so couldn't there be some irony in the possibility sheriff that these lower numbers of those coming into the country are the direct result of efforts like these, like these barriers, and they're working, and now there's this doj move to remove them that could reverse all that? >> well, the barriers are working. however, the areas that they are put up in, yes, we're seeing traffic come around them, and just so far this year, through my county, i've got cameras set up in various spots throughout the county, with that over 29,000 have walked through kinney county undetected -- or unchallenged and unapprehended. they are part of the problem. >> neil: the 29,000 you refer

to, sheriff, how does that compare to prior periods? >> last year, for the whole year, of course i have more cameras out this year, but last year we had 23,000 for the whole year. this year so far 29,000. >> neil: where do you see all of this going, sheriff? i mean, you're on the front lines trying to deal with this problem, try not to politicize it, trying to keep the country safe. and the back and forth continues. so this problem, it comes in fits and starts but it is going not away. what happens? >> no, it's not going to go away any time soon. the more we can put it out there for the general population to see, maybe we get a little more support and get our elected officials to actually do something because right now, in my opinion, this is just one fat man's opinion, that the democrats and the republicans, they're at odds on this, but nothing is getting solved, nothing. >> neil: it's very sad. kinney county texas sheriff.

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>> you need to coalesce down to one candidate opposite the former president. i think you are going to see about three phases of the weaning down. i think in the next three or four weeks, if you don't get on that first or second debate stage, you got to go. unfortunately, there's probably going to three or four of those candidates that don't qualify for the debates. they will to step down. i think come october if you are still sitting there in 0, 1, 2 percent land even though you got on the debate stage, you will have to get out. >> neil: all right. that was new hampshire governor talking about the kind of thing that romney has been talking about, other republicans have been talking about clearing the stage to find a viable alternative to donald trump, if you don't want donald trump to be the nominee. right now he's the run away favorite for that given the latest polls. i wonder how asa hutchinson feels about this back and forth, presidential candidate, the former two term governor of the state of arkansas. good to have you. >> good to be with you, neil. thanks for the opportunity. >> neil: you've heard this expressed chris sununu is the latest. romney has said the same that

ancillary candidates i don't want to lump you in with that crowd, governor, but that if it doesn't look good for you in iowa or new hampshire that maybe that would be a time to go and save it for someone who could be a credible let's rally around this guy to challenge donald trump. what do you think of that first of all? >> well, time will tell, but iowa is very important in that process, and that will be the firstwinnowing of the candidates and then new hampshire and carolina, but it is also important to get to super tuesday which is in march, and so mitt romney, who i have great respect for mentioned that what was it the end of february after the first four states we ought to slow everything down or candidates ought to drop out. well, it will narrow by itself. let's don't set artificial time frames on it. all the candidates going to evaluate it and make good decisions as to what they need

to do. >> neil: you know, governor, you did not encounter -- even though you have been critical of the former president, anything like the jeers that former congressman will hurd got when he was saying what he thought about the former president and that it would be a mistake to nominate him. i'm paraphrasing him. but i wonder, is it because you didn't make the former president a focus of your remarks, and how do you walk that line as this race goes forward? >> well, last night was terrific. over a thousand people there of iowans. i made my case. we had 10 minutes a piece. i said these are serious times that we face in america, and we need serious leaders. and of course i talked about my background that sets the stage for serious leader to lead this country. and then secondly, i did mention donald trump, and i said that whenever iowans vote in the caucus next year, which is less than six months from now, they're going to have to decide

about someone who is under multiple indictments, and they are going to have the first chance to move away from donald trump. so i did mention it, but i did it in a way that made sense to iowans, i hope, that it just emphasizes the strange world that we're in, and they are going to have to make some tough decisions and realize we need to move in a different direction. >> neil: you know, chris christie as you know, governor, opted not to go to iowa. he's been very critical of the former president. i don't know if that were among the reasons why he didn't show up. he is focusing a lot in new hampshire as you know, but he did mention kind of what you just touched on there, the anomaly of a candidate who could have a whole bunch of legal problems. i want you u to react to chris christie with me yesterday. >> i looked at that superseding indictment yesterday and it tells me one clear thing, they have a cooperating witness, at least one, maybe two, from inside the trump organization that are cooperating and providing them with information

that is in the indictment against the former president. and so this is, again -- [inaudible] he brought on himself. >> neil: things he brought on himself, but he's also saying governor if you don't like some of the legal attack lines that the former president has had to endure, they are only going to get worse and only going to get bigger, and it is only going to get more problematic. what do you think of that? >> well, i think that's exactly correct. that's why i make the case that this is such a big distraction to not just the campaign itself, but to our democracy, and if he put the country first, then he would step aside now. he's not going to do that, so we've got to go through the voters, but the voters are going to understand that we can't win with this kind of cloud that hangs over somebody who wants to be the nominee of the party. he will be having appearances in court. he probably will not appear in

the debates because he's going to worry about what he says that could incriminate himself. he's got the court appearances that's going to be conflicting with the primary calendar. none of it makes sense. it is a distraction for our country, and these are issues that he brought upon himself, and it is absolutely correct. >> neil: that all might be the case to your point, governor. but he's leading in the polls and voters and his supporters don't really seem to care what's remarkable as well is in some of these polls, not all of them to your point, sir, but in some of them, he leads joe biden even with all that legal baggage, so that's not accurate to say that he couldn't win the white house back; right? >> well, you have to look at the polls, and you're right. in some of the polls, he's beating joe biden, but he lost the 2020 election. we lost under his leadership in 2022 because he brought on different candidates, and he

couldn't bring in independent voters, and so that's the reality that will set in over time. i think the polls are artificially high right now. we've got to think through this. republicans will do that. iowans will do that. it will start in iowa, and that's the case i made last night. >> neil: how do things look for the debate? >> listen, we're going to be there. i'm so encouraged with the number of donors that are coming in every day, and so we've got to have 40,000 donors. we've already met the requirement for the polling nationally, and so we just got to have those 40,000 donors. it's asa 2024.com. everybody can help us get there. >> neil: i should have known that you might mention that. [laughter] >> neil: governor, very good seeing you again. >> thank you, neil, appreciate it. >> neil: governor hutchinson on all of that. meanwhile the backdrop for everything is the economy, right, how it is going and workers and jobs and all of that, but there is a large group of people who are not really keen on pursuing the job market.

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jobs. the trend is being pushed on tik-tok with life coaches advising followers to look for roles that are nontechnical, low stress, mostly or completely remote, and paying between 60 to 80 k. >> when you take away this pressure of working paycheck to paycheck and unsafe jobs or jobs that are like very laborious on our bodies, we are not operating at our fullest potential. >> work moderately hard for moderate pay. now, we spoke to some young women on the street who have worked these lazy girl jobs and they explain to us all the things that they could do while technically on company time. >> going out places, going shopping, just, i don't know, just like daily day-to-day things that i needed to get done that if i was working a job where i didn't have the flexibility to do that, that i wouldn't be able to do it >> do yoga and go out for walks, doing random things like whatever seems fun that day. >> a big goal is to avoid anxiety straenss at work. it -- anxiety and stress at

work. it turns out remote work may not be as chill as you think. one study out of university of chicago that remote workers saved on their commute average 72 minutes, but then those same workers devote an extra 30 minutes of that time to work. by the end of the week, you are giving your employer an extra 2.5 hours of work for the exact same pay. now, i do want to say the two girls we interviewed on the street, for this story, they say they have actually given up their lazy girls jobs or lifestyle and currently pursuing careers in education both working right now as substitute teachers. as much as they loved their lazy girl jobs, they clearly were willing to give them up. i don't know exactly what that means, maybe there's some hope for the youngest generation. i will send it back to you guys. >> neil: not so fast, madison. by the way, i'm sure there's some lazy boys in there too, not being sexist about it, who knows. what is going on with you kids today? we have a lot more coming up. russian official, china official

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>> neil: all right. a couple of things we are following closely is what's going on in north korea these days. it seems like almost every day they have been testing new ballistic missiles this as they still have a u.s. private in their country, don't know the status of that private. we will get to that in a second. and now reports that north korea's showing off a lot of this technology with russia and chinese officials. that worries a lot of folks. the former defense secretary under drurp is joining us -- under donald trump is joining us what he makes of all this. secretary, when it rains, it

pours, but these developments in north korea, as well as news that we're sending more ships to the region does raise questions where all of this is going. what do you think? >> yeah, it really is an interesting, neil, and it is significant on a few fronts. first of all, the fact that a chinese bureau member and the defense minister would be in pyongyang for this parade is interesting because there has not been a russian defense minister in north korea since the end of the cold war, so that's number one. number two, the fact that these two officials from china and russia would be there observing a p raid that featured -- observing a parade that featured solid fuel icbms that could reach the united states just kind of signals those two countries' support for kim jong-un and his threatening behavior towards the united states. it also underlines the fact that those countries are not serious about nuclear non-proliferation, any attempts by us to continue to entice them to help us out are probably going to be fruitless, and look, they are

also supposed to be abiding by u.n. sanctions against these countries and that's not going to happen. the final point is this, pertaining particularly to russia, russia is at the point where it is dependent on rogue states like iran and north korea to supply the means to prosecute its war in ukraine. we know that they are getting drones and other materials from iran, and we suspect they are getting 155 millimeter rounds, and i read in paper today that north korean rockets have found their way or at least been intercepted by friendly nation forces going to russia as well. so russia's doing everything it can to find the means to continue to prosecute this war, and it is going to rogue states like north korea to do so. >> neil: yeah, you noticed far better than i, doctor, but a lot of this stuff, the north korean leader is showing off is stuff that should be banned, that's not allowed. they don't seem to care. i am curious, though, where you see it going because tensions are heightening between the north and the south, north korea and south korea, they are even

racing each other with space projects and the like, and the threats go back and forth. i mean, are we looking too much at russia and not enough at what north korea and its cooking up? >> we have seen an exceptional year in 2023 with regard to north korea and missile launches. they have probably -- launched dozens more than we have ever seen, and now icbm range as well. they are clearly amping up the rhetoric and the noise. i'm glad to see over the past couple of years there's been a strong alliance between the united states, south korea, and japan, particularly among the leadership, right, with the prime minister and the president in south korea really unified in terms of pushing back against north korea, showing resolving, but also against china as well. that's a good sign. i think this is also part in parcel of kim jong-un's seeing the world's attention focused away from north korea and more on ukraine or taiwan. >> neil: secretary, i don't want to hit you broadside on this,

but we're getting reports right now from poland's prime minister that more than 100 mercenaries have moved toward the border between poland and lithuania, and he can only conclude that this is a step toward quoting here, sir, a further hybrid attack on polish territory. clearly worried about it as well. are you? >> yeah, just caught a quick snippet of this before i came on, but look, hybrid warfare coming from russia against the baltic states and poland has been ongoing for many years. of course i had to deal with it during my time as secretary of defense and to some extent as secretary of the army. that's been ongoing. this fact that troops may be heading toward there is interesting. you know, the gap is less than 100 miles long. it connects belarus with a russian enclave and a very significant one too, so we don't know, if true, where exactly these troops are, and also who

is in control of them? is it belarus? is it putin? i think this gets to a point i have said many times to the media on this show is this is one reason why putin cannot afford to vanquish if you will vaugner because they are executing his foreign policies whether it is in syria, whether it's africa, we see it happening in niger or in ukraine and now we're hearing about it in belarus. it will be interesting to see how it plays out and what we learn in the coming days. i'm not too concerned about 100 troops but the fact they are being maneuvered around and all that is interesting and something i'm sure our intelligence community is going to want to pick at very closely. >> neil: i can well imagine. secretary, thank you very much. the former defense secretary under donald trump, dr. mark esper. thank you again secretary. i neglected to mention during the course of the show the markets this past week, they were up across the board, optimism that the fed rate hike

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