people not wanting to be themselves it's that simple and grasped the fact he is weird and people are judging him. nobody judges normally a border collie. >> all i say, there is one go dogs, university of georgia. >> he looks real. >> don't forget to set the dvr. >> bill: top 2024 contenders, keeping close tabs on duelling legal effects to have have major implications for presidential bids. good afternoon, hope you had a great weekend. bill hemmer. gillian, nice to see you in d.c. >> gillian: john and sandra both off, this is "america reports." right now, a pivotal witness in the probe of hunter biden, devon

archer, on capitol hill. his former business partner and best friend. he did not appear to be very inclined to talk before heading into that meeting. take a listen. an mr. archer, what do you intend to tell the committee today? do you have anything to say? did you have meetings with the bidens and can you elaborate -- >> did anyone tell you not to appear today, sir? >> bill: so archer is expected to be asked about vice president biden's alleged ties to his son's business deals. house gop conference vice chair mike johnson standing by on that. >> gillian: and alex hoff is in miami, a long time trump employee in court to face charges in the document case. chad, whatever the oversight committee hoping to learn from the republicans want to know wt sorts of conversations devon archer had with hunter biden and

the president. archer even golfed with the president in the hamptons in 2014. it took the committee three tries to get archer to appear. he is now talking to house investigators, but archer would not talk with me. mr. archer, what do you intend to tell the committee today? you have anything to say? did you have meetings with the bidens and can you elaborate? >> did anyone tell you not to appear today, sir? >> fox has obtained text messages between hunter biden and devon archer dating back to 2018. hunter calls the doj mother blankers and he and archer will get the last laugh. key to the probe. democrats disagree. >> seems to be evolving from a fugitive agent of china whistleblower who now they are not talking about as the lynch

pin and the star witness to irs agents. >> accused the doj from intimidating him to appear. he was convicted of bilking native americans out of millions. >> explosive letter on saturday, the bidens doj henchmen saying basically to devon archer, sure, you can do this interview with the oversight committee on monday but we are going to intimidate the witness before you do that. and i was just shocked when the letter came out on saturday. >> a transcript of the interview will appear in 3 to 4 days. one called it "damning for the bidens." gillian. >> gillian: chad pergram on capitol hill. >> bill: bring in louisiana republican congressman mike johnson, serves on the house judiciary committee, good afternoon, that is force of habit right there, my bad.

what do you expect to come from this today, sir? >> well, this could be a blockbuster moment. we needed another breakthrough. you know, the house has been doing our responsibility, our duty under the constitution and this is to investigate these alleged bribery and extortion scandals, these abuses of power and the more stones we overturn the more scandals we uncover. and this is a key witness, intimately involved in the personal and business affairs of hunter biden and very likely his father. so what he says in that room will have a big bearing i think on the direction of these investigations. >> bill: you are knee deep in this investigation. why are you not in washington listening to this in person? >> i wish i could be there. i'm not on the oversight committee, i serve on house judiciary and the weaponization committee. this is specifically oversight committee hearing, so we have key members there, jim jordan, the chair of the house judiciary committee as you know and also on oversight is in the room as

are other members and of course our expert professional staff who are deep in the weeds on the evidence, and the republican side has two full hours. we'll find out. >> bill: when do you believe we will learn about what he said? could that be this afternoon? >> well, it may be -- i expect some of our members may be talking to the press after this. chad just mentioned there in his report that the full transcript will be available in 3 to 4 days, and that will be anxiously anticipated by a lot of people. you know, what we believe mr. archer is going to say is that he was involved in these exchanges on the telephone, for example, you know, conference calls where the president himself was involved being introduced to these foreign oligarchs and business dealings, and goes against everything he has said about this, and we think the corruption goes back to when he was vice president.

this is a serious, serious matter. >> bill: devon archer, a lot of viewers getting to know this man. he goes back for years with hunter biden when it comes to business. however, he's about to go to jail, and if you look at this guy, call for number 2, sentenced to a year in prison for conspiracies, fraud charges, 43 million in restitution and last month and the month of june. what is his incentive to cooperate today? >> well, nobody can get into the mind and heart of mr. archer, but my suspicion is he wants to come clean. he has nothing to lose now. he is going to be sentenced to prison for his involvement with the native american tribes and all of that. that does not change the value of what he has witnessed, the evidence that he has. and you see the democrats point out every stop, including the department of justice. i mean, whether or not they were trying to suggest that he sh you had immediately be imprisoned

over the weekend is not the point. it's the brazen intervention, they are following a playbook, the democrats in congress have used in the weaponization committee investigation, for example. you try to intimidate the witnesses and then try to discredit the information they bring forward. i don't think it's going to work here. i think there are too many sources for evidence and back-up. >> bill: one minute, two more topics. doj move with the letter on saturday. apparently archer's lawyers did not. >> a letter on a saturday? i mean, come on. everybody can see right through it. myself and other members of judiciary were ready to jump on planes and come to d.c., if they tried to prevent him from testifying, we would have hauled merrick garland in for questioning. it goes to the top. >> bill: friday afternoon, the president made a bit of a joke

about impeachment which kevin mccarthy suggested impeachment inquiry should take place. what he said on friday. >> early this week the "washington post" suggested republicans may have to find something else to criticize me for. now that inflation is coming down. maybe they'll decide to impeach me because it's coming down, i don't know. i love that one. >> bill: what did you think of that comment? >> it's not a joking matter. the president may try to make light but we don't. it's not about politics, it's about our constitutional responsibility under article i and ii. the house has a responsibility to pursue these things. the president has been accused of bribery, that's one of the listed causes for impeachment in the constitution. we have no choice in this, we have to follow the fact where they lead and he's not taking it seriously enough. the people are, bill. >> bill: mike johnson, thank you for your time, republican from louisiana. see what we get maybe later to the, or not.

>> gillian: a long time maintenance employee at mar-a-lago made his first time in court in miami, delete security footage evidence related to the justice department investigation into trump's mishandling of classified documents. alex, did he enter a plea, what exactly happened with him in the courtroom? >> gillian, that was the expectation, but that did not happen. he actually arrived here today without a florida-based attorney, which he really needed to to enter the plea agreement, or enter a plea this morning. so he did not do so, but once inside he asked the judge if he could have more time to find somebody local to represent him in this case. the judge agreed with that. so this new arraignment date set for august 10th. now, he did have a d.c.-based attorney with him as he exited the federal courthouse here in miami and the attorney said this about the government's case.

>> it's time for them to put their money where their mouth is. so i'm looking forward to seeing what discovery is. >> he is the third defendant charged in the classified documents case. prosecutors say he lied to move boxes and attempted to delete security footage from the mar-a-lago estate. and three new felony charges, willful retention of national defense information and two new obstruction counts. here is trump's legal spokesperson. >> if president trump didn't want something turned over, i assure you that is something that could have been done, but he never would act like that. he's the most ethical american i know. >> the trial date is right now set for may of 2024, that is after the primaries, gop opponent, nikki haley weighed in on fox news sunday. >> it doesn't matter if you are a republican or democrat, it

doesn't matter if you are hillary or trump, you shouldn't be erasing anything unless you have something to hide, everybody needs to be treated the same way. that's what the american people are frustrated about. >> the judge did advise on the bail agreement bond set at $100,000. gillian, and he does have to surrender his passport. >> gillian: alex hoff in miami, thank you. >> bill: gillian, we have a new report that says the biden administration is looking for chinese malware buried in u.s. networks that could disrupt our u.s. military, not good. one official quoted as saying it's a ticking time bomb. can they find it before it goes off. >> gillian: senator rand paul has sent a criminal referral over to the justice department, saying that fauci lied about

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>> bill: tough news out of holiday, paul reuben, actor known for portraying pee wee herman has died. he created the iconic character in the early 1980s. he starred in the series "pee wee's playhouse" from 1986 to 1990, actor passed away after a private bout of cancer. and that he "delighted generations of children and adults with his positivity,

whimsy and belief in kindness." dead at the age of 70. too young these days, just crossing right now, gillian. >> gillian: way too young. bill, e.p. told me the news during the commercial break and one of the things i thought of was a lesser known but wonderful series, a drama series put out in the 1980s called "fairytale theater," he played character roles across the different series episodes, the movies and he was wonderful. >> bill: his family put out a statement here and it's, it goes for a little bit here, on a tweet, said last night we said fair wall to paul reubens, beloved character delighted generations of children and adults. paul bravely and privately fought cancer for years with his trademark tenacity and wit.

a gifted and prolific talent. forever live in the comedy pantheon and man of remarkable character and generosity of spirit. age 70, pee wee herman has left us. >> gillian: the biden administration now is searching for malware it believes the chinese government has buried in u.s. networks. it could cut off power grids, communication systems and water supplies used to feed u.s. military bases here at home and abroad. michael, thanks for being here with me today. take a look at this from the "new york times" today. they say the malware, according to one congressional aide, was essentially a ticking time bomb could give china the power to interrupt or slow deployments or

supply by cutting off power, water and com, the same infrastructure often supplies the houses and businesses of ordinary americans. pretty terrifying. >> this is very dangerous, comes from a chinese state-sponsored hacking organization called volt typhoon. they are a traditional cyber information collector but they are more pernicious, they like to hide on networks in the days we have hostility with china. then and only then would they try and sabotage military installations or other critical infrastructure, we would, of course, need if we were trying to deter or otherwise respond to a chinese invasion of taiwan. >> gillian: and the chinese government is well-known for using cyber espionage to steal american information, spy on

americans, a round up of some of the top tier efforts we know about, the spy base in cuba, hacked into cranes at u.s. ports, spycraft over bases, and this malware is the first time we have seen cyber efforts from china not just intended to spy, these are actually intended to disrupt, meaning this is going to potentially really impact operations. >> the reason it's so sophisticated, they take the actual credentials of people who are allowed to be on a particular computer network and use those credentials to present themselves as legitimate users and hide. what that does, it puts the burden not only the private sector but the national security agency whose job it is to defend the nation from foreign hackers, puts the burden back on them to

hunt across these networks to ensure that the chinese aren't there, and so the list you show, and this is among them, shows the breadth that the chinese will go to to not only spy on us, but to put themselves in good position in case the balloon went up against them. >> gillian: the only natural follow-up question or the natural follow-up question here is what can the biden administration do, are they doing it, can they do more? >> they need to do a lot more. it's very obvious that since 2001 when we first heard about volt typhoon they are expanding their reach. good guys do the same thing. we the united states and others seek to have a foot hold in our adversary's commuter network to hold each other at risk, deterrence, if you will, knowing we could do the same type of computer hack or intrusion

against them. some is spy versus spy but it's still serious and dangerous. >> gillian: we'll keep an eye on this. thanks for being with me. >> bill: gillian, over the weekend republican candidates tried to offer a new road map to victory in 2024. saying the only way to beat president joe biden is not vote for donald trump in the primary. will this strategy work with such a large lead heading into the debate season, plus this. roll it. >> there's no silver lining. >> this is a big problem. >> gillian: ron desantis is facing attacks from republican rivals over the florida curriculum. and leo terrell and what it means for the presidential primary, that next. call newday. pay off your high rate credit cards and car loan with an affordable va home loan from newday. you can save $500 every month.

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some republican candidates now are making a pitch to presidential primary voters. their message, if you want to defeat president biden come 2024 you need to pick a nominee not named donald trump. we have full coverage right here on fox news, civil rights attorney leo terrell joins us on a culture war controversy surrounding trump's primary rival, ron desantis. first national correspondent rich edson has more on the dilemma how to approach gop voters who still support trump. >> the balance of the republican field is trying to break through the dominance polls show he has. ron desantis rolled out an economic policy that targets u.s. trade with china, cutting regulations and taxes. several polls show desantis running a distant second behind trump. >> what i've said the whole time is some of the name calling, i think it's juvenile, not

something i'm going to be involved in. i'm a guy about substance, about getting the job done. >> trump held a roll i in erie, pennsylvania, saying to step aside and let him focus on a rematch. several gop opponents were in iowa this weekend. trump's political action committee spent more than $40 million on legal fees during the first half of the year. >> donald trump is running to stay out of prison and if we elect -- i know, i know, i know, i know, i know, listen. i know the truth. >> other republicans are making the case the party is just better off with another nominee, pointing to the last few national elections. >> former president trump hurts the entire ticket. do not forget about how bad

2022, 2020, 2018, we got slaughtered with him as our message bearer. >> trump holds that substantial lead advantage even as he posted on social media he expects another indictment any day now. this one related to his conduct following the 2020 election. gillian. >> gillian: rich edson in the d.c. newsroom, thank you. >> bill: republican presidential candidate florida governor ron desantis has drawn backlash among some members of his own party after a controversial black history curriculum in florida. he is on the campaign trail as are many unveiling his economic plan today, in fact. could a shift away from culture wars, other policies help him resonate with voters, leo terrell is a civil rights attorney and fox news contributor. good day to you in los angeles. i want to play this little bit of tim scott and will heard from over the weekend. >> slavery -- [indiscernible] i

would hope that every person in our country certainly the president would appreciate that. >> ron desantis has doubled down on this multiple times. real leadership would have said hey, there was no up side to slavery, it's not a jobs program. >> bill: so they have made their positions clear and you think they are wrong. you think it's all a false narrative. what do you mean, leo? >> it's hyperbole and playing politics on both sides with the issue of slavery. i mean, kamala harris actually outright lied about the curriculum in florida. but no one called this program will heard, the benefit of slavery a job program. i taught u.s. history. i was a school teacher. i still have my license. i encourage will herd, tim scott and kamala harris to read the autobiography of frederick

douglass. he talks about the horrors and also what he learned. talk about the whole truth and both sides are wrong and they need to read frederick douglass own personal autobiography when he was a slave. >> bill: desantis responding to this backlash. >> the end of the day you have to choose. are you going to side with kamala harris and liberal media outlets, side with the state of florida and i think it's very clear that these guys did a good job on the standards. so don't side with kamala on that, stand up for your state. >> bill: kind of what you are saying, leo. >> yeah, bill. the democrats set the false narrative and the republican politicians, they drink the kool-aid. why do they have to answer a democratic narrative. democrats always play the race card, and find a race card when it doesn't exist. and the republicans stepped into it and play the game and answer the ridiculous question.

>> bill: we have a debate in 23 days and maybe it comes up, maybe it doesn't, we'll see then. we know it's going to come up, that's the economy. desantis has rolled out a plan about the border, now he's talking about the economy as well. and a lot of his ideas have to do with china and his whole idea about decoupling from china. and we have seen that play before. how do you think it works for him in his campaign? >> it won't work. that's a poor man's version of the trump make america great program. besides decoupling from china, he wants to up unleash america's energy. and "new york times" poll, he's losing -- his margin of error now, he's lost it. he can't reboot his campaign, bill, by basically using trump talking points. those points are what trump has done as president, when he was

president, and now i think it's too late for ron desantis. >> bill: you never know what happens on a debate stage. and leo, you can get -- >> trump is not going to show up. >> bill: and you can break through, and somebody like desantis or one of the others is the person you are talking about the next day. >> bill, truth social today, president trump announced i think he's not going to appear because why punch now, and so it will be interesting to see if any one of the other candidates can survive. but i don't foresee president trump with a commanding lead participating in the debate, that's my understanding and what he announced on truth social. >> bill: he's always invited, 23 days to get it done. you can still have somebody on stage to make the breakout. captures the attention, that's all. >> i'll say this to you. president trump's lead is insurmountable and he has a connection with the american

people. he doesn't have a connection with the inside the beltway, but the american people. look at his rally in erie, pennsylvania over the weekend, massive. >> bill: leo, thank you. nice to see you. thank for coming on today. >> thanks for having me. >> gillian: thank you, bill. the state of maine is making history with a new law meant to protect sex workers. coming up next, we'll get into all the details. plus this. >> so dwight in your own words, someone replaced all my pens and pencils with crayons. i suspect jim halpert. everyone has called me dwayne all day, i think jim halpert paid them to. >> yes, five bucks each and totally worth it. >> bill: saying enough is enough with gen z employees and work etiquette in the office. what nearly half of companies are doing to get them to change the behavior in the office. i was tired of throwing money down the rent

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>> gillian: welcome back. take a look at this, music car c cardi b is taking things into her own hands, a fan threw a drink at her on stage in las vegas. >> [bleep], don't -- [bleep] >> gillian: just the latest>> ari: -- cler>> the latest artist, and miranda lambert was criticized a couple weeks ago for calling out fans who were taking a selfie

while she was performing. all part of this strand of sort of strange interactions between stars and their fans. but bill, this trend is becoming dangerous. >> bill: cardi b had good aim. there is some reporting suggesting that there may be a follow-up, and if there is, we'll follow that up, too, as to what happened with that microphone. meanwhile, gillian, maine has now become the first state to partially decrimalize sex work. critics argue only cause an increase in sex trafficking. bryan, good afternoon to you. are more states going to follow maine's lead? >> they very well could be. six other states are considering bills to fully or partially decriminalize sex work or prostitution, including here in

new york. julia salazar introduced the stop violence in the sex trades act, decriminalize sex work, supporters say it provides legal protections, safer for sex workers and removes the stigma. but some survivors think this goes too far. melanie thompson was kidnapped at 12 years old and repeatedly raped by strangers in an abandoned house in new york, sex trafficked through her teens. says it would make it easier for pimps to hurt vulnerable people. the vast majority are victims. >> i love to say you can't make a choice if you don't have choices. prostitution needs to not be viewed as an individualized choice, rather needs to be viewed as oppressive system that thrives on other oppressive symptoms. >> thompson is more supportive

of the nordic model, or partial, similar to laws in sweden, norway and elsewhere. maine was the first state to criminalize buying sex or running a prostitution business, decriminalize prostitution. it would target the industry without targeting the victims and republican state senator says he fears decriminalization will lead to more of a bad thing. >> this is the dynamic with prostitution, brings along other types of crime with it. robberies, burglaries, and when it becomes legal it becomes more prevalent and more easily accessible. we asked new york city mayor eric adams about this and he answered our question. said he does not support legalization either. we'll see. >> bill: not new york. >> we'll see, it's a state. it's one thing about new york city, a fight in their own party, see what happens.

>> bill: thank you, nice to see you. >> gillian: senator rand paul is referring dr. anthony fauci to the doj. he claims he's got evidence that fauci lied to congress about gain of function research in wuhan. charlie hurt will go into that. >> bill: and soft on crime policies leave residents living in fear. asking for a state of emergency now. could this be a tipping point when it comes to far left crime policies? rafael mangual will be here on that. ♪ it takes two to make it outta sight ♪ ♪ one, two, get loose now ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a... ♪ stay two nights and get a $ 50 best western gift card. book now at bestwestern.com. our ears connect us to the moments that matter. give them the nutrients they need with lipo. it's formulated with ingredients clinically shown to protect your ears from dizziness,

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sudden the shark attacked his engines. >> bill: aggressive shark targeted the engine by repeatedly ramming into the back of that boat. the captain says the boat was rocked like a bag of popcorn and the shark ripped out the middle of the engine. bull sharks range in size from 7 to 11 feet long and that was caught by an overhead camera. not often, but real. and no movie did it take to film that scene, gillian. >> gillian: i mean, i'm scared. also, bill, one thing i want to say, i do feel bad for all the sharks and whales like super charging all the boats in open water. they get torn up by this, they get really injured and some instances they are not meaning a attack, just confused. >> bill: he tried to split the middle of the prop, and that will likely leave a mark. and anyway, share that with you. and we approach the first day of argue tomorrow. here is this.

>> knowing it's a crime to lie to congress, do you wish to retract your statement of may 11 where you claim the nih never funded gain of function research in wuhan. >> senator paul i have never lied before the congress and i do not retract that statement. you do not know what you are talking about. >> gillian: kentucky senator rand paul has filed a criminal referral to the justice department from that back in 2021. newly surfaced emails he claims from fauci back in 2020 proves he was lying to congress about gain of function research happening in a wuhan lab. so, bring in charlie hurt, fox news contributor, washington times -- you are not opinionator, you are editor, mr. hurt. smoking gun paul says it is? >> it certainly does raise a lot

of questions and you know, i would tend to think it is. clearly this was an email that has surfaced that has just been recently unredacted from a year and a half before that testimony, in which dr. fauci was clearly talking about the gain of function that he and other scientists, including other american scientists knew was going on in that lab. so at the very least, it certainly does raise some troubling questions. you know, obviously, you know, all this stuff is fairly complex, but the problem for dr. fauci is that rand paul also happens to be a doctor, actually knows what he's talking about, and it's a lot more difficult to sort of bamboozle a guy who has been to medical school talking about all this stuff than it is the average politician. >> gillian: the problem, though, for senator paul and his colleagues is, you know, a, they

don't have the ability to charge dr. fauci, it's a referral, whether the doj does anything or not is completely up to the biden administration. another problem is, you can charge dr. fauci with criminal behavior, you can accuse every scientist and you know, public health official that served during covid if you want to, but it's not going to get at the underlying problem, which is the biden administration seems to not want to hold the chinese government accountable for originating covid in whatever form that took. >> i think you are exactly right, gillian and also very important to sort of pursue all avenues on this because i think that bringing sunshine to what happened during covid, how the government responded to covid, what maybe taxpayers were funding that may have contributed to covid is all very, very important. but at the end of the day, you are exactly right. it's going to be very difficult

to build a case against anybody if the executive branch is not interested in pursuing it. it's just not going to happen. that's the way the separation of powers and we are lucky we have it, but that's how it works. the real answer is a political one, and obviously that's what a lot of these hearings are about, and it's a very important aspect of all of it is that you, you know, you make it into a political debate and we have a very, you know, vigorous political debate about the way we handled covid, what sort of things nih was funding that may have contributed to the virus that led to all of this, and it has to be -- but it has to be done through the political process what rand paul is doing and colleagues are doing, but also important to understand that's what anthony fauci is trying to avoid and when he testifies in front of congress, the number of times he said

things that appear not to be true and certainly at the very least displayed great indifference towards politicians who are trying to get to the bottom of it. that kind of attitude towards our political processing is the most damning thing about anthony fauci. he kind of acts like well, you know, at one point he said i am science. i'm a scientist, i'm a doctor, i don't need to answer to you. yes, you do, actually, you were helping to make policy we paid for and suffered under. >> gillian: we have to leave it there, but we will continue the conversation and report on it. >> bill: hunter biden's former business partner leading with lawmakers behind closed doors for several hours today. will devon archer's interview be the smoking gun that links president biden to his son's shady overseas business deals. jonathan turley, the professor, is here to talk about that, gillian. >> gillian: americans across the

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administration is pulling another lever to try to get the automakers to make more electric vehicles and get more americans to drive them. this proposal aligns the dot with the epa wants two-thirds of all new vehicles sold to be electric. the alliance for automotive innovation, a group that represents the automakers says it is reviewing the fuel efficiency standards but said the epa proposal could drive up the cost of vehicles, reduce options for people buying cars and make us more dependent on china. republicans share those concerns. >> right now when you say about e.v.-powered cars, they are powered by coal and natural gas and unfortunately wind energy and solar energy have been a miserable failure when we set laws to spend trillions of dollars supposed to be made in america. but guess what, his other policies keep us from making it in america and enrich china.

>> e.v. prices are coming down, but still about $5,000 more expensive than the average new car. ford says americans are going electric at a slower pace than expected, and the company is losing billions of dollars on electric vehicles right now. bill, the bottom line is drivers still have major concerns about the cost of e.v.s, where are they going to charge them, but president biden says he's all in on all electric. >> bill: true on that. nice to see you, grady trimble. >> gillian: a live look at capitol hill, hunter biden's former business partner and best friend devon archer remains behind closed doors this hour, meeting with white house lawmakers. republicans hope his deposition will expose president biden's dealings with his son in russia, ukraine and china. i'm gillian turner i