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for anybody else. but ifod year. you're a lawyer. it's good. steve. north carolina, i didn't know you could make. 50 mil talking about the weather. e? much does rooker mak >> that's right. biden is making more than rooker and he barely works. that's all for tonight. dvr the show and always . member >> i'm waters. this is my for ton world now. t, >> and welcome to hannity. and tonight, we have a fox news alert. we we we begin with corruption and bribery allegations swirling around the presiden t of the united states. that's joe biden. so naturally, biden's now weaponized, politicized doj has justent of u indicted his chief political rival. trump again, ly and completely on completely bogus charges related to january 6th out of the great venue of washington, d.c..to j let us be very clear at the start here tonight. thisout of t is incredibly weak,
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baseless, convoluted indictmentt . i it is bizarrely centered around what is clearlbizay protected speech, zero criminal statutes, because there are none that were applicable that are actually written intl statut is based on an obscure law frome the civid l war. so let's be even more clear. this indictment is frankly not, worth the paper that it's printed on. this is indicis franka politicn through and through. there is a reason that donaldpec trump's poll numbers keep going he goes single timeut through yet another attack like this by liberal activists, is. attorneys general. the american people are seeing through all of thi liberalt s ae biden's so-called department of aty outjusticw officiall of control. d, en's ag, merrick garlane, who signed off on this charade. remember the department ofbiden justice is part of the executive branch. they have now gone ful merrickla
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republic. he's not even making any attempt to presentexecut've nown the appearance of fairness. otherarland and the democrats at the doj, they're now trying to jail joe, joe biden's chief political opponent, all in the leadrying up to an election. and they want donald trump in ad up tot of his life all while protecting the big guy from any and all legitimate and real legal scrutiny. just look at this timeline. june the seventh, the the fbi finally gives congress thatgive 1023 form that they did not r, first handede over, eventually redacted. then you get to see it in a skiff. finally, thanks to senator grassley, we get to see itsee i. anyway. that documented farm bribery allegations against, joe and hunter biden from a credible source, a credible source because the fbi paid this informant in the past hundreds ,thousands of dollars the very next dayt , june the eighth,t dj the doj is jack smith indicts.
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trump in the mar-a-lago documents case. okay. well, with mere coincidence, then on july 26, hunter biden is on precedentedthea sweetheart deal with the doj was introducedrtthe doj, in cout and then rejected by a federal judge all the very next day,urt. july 27th, jack smith adds even more in the trump mar-a-lago e. ument cas i guess pretty weird. another odd coincidence, right? but more on july 31st. that would be yesterday. hunter biden's former business partner testifies before congress that joe biden wasss pr on over 20 callstn and in-persot meetings with his son, hunter's farm business partnersin. now, that, of course, contradicted joe biden's big lie as both a candidate and asps president that he never one time evethat of r to his so, hunter or his brother or anyoney for that matter, quote unquote, about their foreign business ondealings. farm this includes burisma, executives who, according to devin. archer yesterday
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pressured hunter's connections in d.c. why they wantedex to remove that ukrainian prosecutor that joe biden ultimately forced out in less than 6 hours, leveraging 1 billion of your tax dollars to do it. and by the way, the net result that he helped enrich his son and family in the procesf that,s and here we are the very next day, another coincidence which is today, august the first, and jack smith indictedck smi trump once again over the riot on january 6th. althoughthonce again, over not t the riot. >> now, despite trump's direction to many of you will now peacefully, patriotically march to the capitol. so your voices will be heard, by the way, which is not in the indictment, the certification of the 2020 election wase trum delayed by a few hours because of the riotsp'. so now biden's doj wants donald trump to spend the rest of his life in prison. and by the way, the doj not to p
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even charging trump with causing the riots. res lifey ignore the criminal referrals from the point list. chath january 6 committee. and that committee, of course, ignored the most importantnt discovery that they had, and that was that our intelligencescovery had ace intelligence in the weeks and days leading up to january six, and they failed to act you would think they would want to prevent something like that from ever happening again and taking steps to prevent it from happening again. but they ignored that part because their full focus was to bludgeon donald trump at all costs. instead, they well indictedim trump on three counts of conspiracy and of course one obstruction charge over allegations that trump worked behind the scenes to obstruct an official proceeding, an official proceeding that went on as planned, albeit a few hours late and apparentlyth questioning election results. well, that woulde sctruct an beu and i guess that is now, as of today, illegal in our country, unless, of course, you're nancy
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n orday,r hillary clinto minority leader hakeem jeffries or stacey abrams in georgia or any other democratic candidate sho objects to election result time a republican wins. now, of course, donald trump in this case be triede in washington, dc, where pretty much nobod blican wy for him and almost everyone hates his guts. does that sound like a fair venue? well, in fact, washington, d.c., we went back and look,faiv only 5.4% of the cityth actually voted for donald trump in new york city, where donald trump is alsoctually fag bogus charges, while a whopping 12% voted for him there. if you look at fulton county, georgia, and i'm sure that's coming next, where trump will likely face charges, om the he received a whopping 26% of the vote. so do you reallyreat fulton thc donald trump can get a fair , ial in new york cityei in washington, dc, in fulton county, georgia, gave a realful jury of his peers? i don't think so. now, of course, the doj,
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jack schmitt, doesn't seem to care. and according to former virginia governor bob mcdonnell, who smith got a guilty plea, not a guilty, tht plea, guilty verdict a on, you know, smith would rather win. they get it wrong. those are mcdonnell's words. remember, jack smith ruined ons, causing himstructur to go bankrupt over his legal fees befor e the case againstim mcdonnell was overturned by ahi unanimous supreme court decision that would be nine zero. that's the justiceit will systm mcdonnell, trump and other republicans. mcdonald, y, this country are fd to endure in these times. but if you're joe biden,al you can allegedly sell access to the highest levels of the u.s. government, leverage taxpayer dollars, and, by thetap way, sell access to people from china, russiand by a ukraine, f kazakhstan, romania, mexico and over a dozen countries, no consequences will you face at all for a few million bucks oligarchs from around the world
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,they get direct access to the big guy, and that included phone calls and meetings facilitated by his son hunter. that was hunter, the brand hunter. what the crack smoker,the the crack addict hunter, the guy that like or waswo the brand that they talked about or devon archer talked about joe bideated by unter. n. es of course, protection was also a part of that package. d they ta executives, as you recall from yesterday, used the biden name package to shield to prevent investigations. they laterld, to pressured hunn to get to call dtec to help geta pesky ukrainian prosecutor fired. and according to the bribery allegations from that fbinian pi source, burisma, executives believe the price was steepwas t they didn't want to pay it, bute they had to pa it. y the bidensbut they 5 million for one, biden 5 billion to another. biden, $10 million in total. and it will take ten years for people to discover how they made the payment. it really make0,002 ans wonder t hunter reportedly encouraged devon archer to buy a burnerkesm
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phone ahead of their appointment to that burisma board.and th and three days before a meeting at the obama white houseeting a, then-vice president biden. well, here's what hunter allegedly emailes d to his business partner, quote, buy a cell phone from a 7-eleven or a cvs tomorrow and i'll do the same. so why did they need a burner phone ahead of a meeting at the white house where joe biden would be? and by the way, it's not only burisma. then, of course, there's the whatsapp message. i am sitting here with my father. why haven't you followed through on your commitment? that, of course, was with the chinese business partnerat alsothat o in the energy business. remember, hunter had no expertise in energy, but remember they paid millions for the biden brand within week, idn including the 1ccp linked businessman nicknamed the super chairman. but don't take my word for it. according to another email-- is from hunter, quote your question why does super chairac love me so
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much? it's easily answered. it has nothing to do with andit everything to do with my last name. and i bring alon g very handsome god like men wherever i go. okay, now just imagine if that email was from donald trump jr or eric trump or ivanka trump. you think the media would care? you think democrats would care? you think the doj, this dothjyo would take note of that? i think they would. wothrently, if your last is biden, even clinton. but if your last name is biden, apu can do you want you cando any allegedly sell access to you highest governmentth government office in the land. you can skip outac on taxecesss you can engage with . you can smoke cractaxek regular you can lie on you got an application that gong to be tossedapplicat in a dumpster acs the street from a high school. and if you're a joe biden or have the last name biden, you can participate in your son's international businessou'r scheme, then lie about ie jot.
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and no one bats an eyelash.ab nobody in the media mob, the ones that liedts an to about trump-russia collusion for three years and nobody in theia democratic party at the same time, the weaponized doj we're living under and the politicized fbi will help sweep everything under the rug for the bidens. so now we're left withat we ar one basic fundamental question who is going to hold the dojt with o and the fbi accountable? basie i wantthe rank to be clear, they're putting their lives on the line to protecto be clethey are us e. i'm talking about the upper echelon werotect u now living in america, where equal justice is dead. stice the equal application of our laws is a thing of the pas is deatshredd that where the shredding ofin our constitution we're witnessing this in real timeal in front of our own eyes is a past time to impeach merrick garland. is it time to flush out all ofi activists out of the bureaucracy in the deep state?
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it was reaction tonight, harvard law professor news legalwitz, fox analyst gregg jarrett, and former acting attorney general matt whitaker is with us. all right, professor dershowitz, you have f a brilliant legal mind. >> i, i will be if you don't agree with my assessment that this case really boils downboil to a decisio n. freeman over the speech and opinions of donald and o j. trump and i naively believe professor, that freedom of speech was was foundational to our constitution. >> was i wrong? no, you're not wrong. t only freedom of speech, but freedom to petition the government for redress of grievances and freedom to challenge elections. in the indictment, they acknowledge that therent - are these freedoms, but then they claim that donald thiins is the key point that donaldona trump actually believetrs thatee he lost the election, that everything he did was , that he conspired
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with unnamed lawyers, mostly to affect the election. you're allowed to challenge elections. indeed, the best way to challenge elections is to cour up with a slate of alternate electors. that's what the court said in the way the 1960. that's been the case throughou. t our history. so the government has the burden of proof beyond a reasonable that subject that donald trump actually believed that he lost the and acted contrary to that belief. now, i read the indictment very carefully. caren. s no smoking gu there is no one who is credibly prepared to testify that. donald trump said to him, i know personally i lost the election. there's a lot of evidence that people told him we lost the election. but, you know, donald trump and you know that he's going to make up his own mind and they're going to have a very hard time proving it. kne ofand the issu the ele columbia. 90 somewhat percent of the jury pool'll haveime prov will have t
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them. so they may actually get a from a d.c. jury, but we would survive appellate review review to the supreme court? >> i do not think so. wii do not think so either. and i agree with your assessment. i don't think you can get tha fair trial in new york. i don't think you can get a fair trial in d.c. and i don'ta think you can get a fair trial in fulton county. professor to be very, i do here. y and i think fulton county is next. let me let me get to the our other guests. greg, i'll let you weigh in next. your thoughts on thiboth cs this indictment strikes me as an amateurish joke, frankly. jack smith is special counsel should be indicted for stupidity. it's that baamateur ke. it but he has this disreputable habit of bringing politicall y driven prosecutions by contorting the law and mangling the. >> and, you know, these four counts are the definition of a stretch. it's a gumby indictment conspire proceed to defraud the government because trump challenged certification
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of electors on january six. >> well, he's entitled to that under the electoral count act, democrats did the same thingng 0 in 2016 and in prior electionsco . nor is it a crime to claim the election was stolen, whichi hillary clinton and nancy pelosi alleged four years earlier. and the main point is, if donaldrlier an trump truly belil he won, even if he was wrongy ven about itif h and he used the lel process to contest the outcome as the law clearly permits, thatw is not election fraud. >> and then smith tosses in obstruct jean charge conspiracy charge. >> those are redundant of the first charge. and the exact same defenseexact applies. a so, you know, this is a junk indictment and it's politically motivated. >> matt whitaker, you worked at the doj. >> let's get your take on this. yeah, i've never seen an indictment this messy and sloppy in my life. tically and, you know, really,
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the end of the day, they're saying that it's notment a matter of it should be a matter of what donald trump thought or didn't thin it instead, they try to use a kind of a reasonable person tesbut t suggest that because director ratcliffe, becausggeste general barr and others had told the president that he'd lost is somehorector rw, you kno reasonable person would believe that. but in all of this indictment, the thinreasonable perg that isg to me is that jack smith admits there was fraud in this lastt js election. he says essentially that there wasn't any outcome determinative amount of fraud, but there was enough fraud. and so this just trial, iffraud and when it goes, could have some really interesting evidence on how muchevidence frd is in the american electoral system. and quite frankly, much fraud. >> are americans willing to withstand. wellhe americans , and we discussed a lot oft of issues like laws, for example, partisan observers are allowed to watch the vote count not from a thousand feet away.owed that didn't happen according to the law in somete count prof. then you have the issue in pennsylvania and the issue
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in wisconsin, a stinging dissent by the by the supreme court justice in the state ofns wisconsin, a34 case. threy that his fellow justices were not following the law. ces ar or in pennsylvania, the state constitution had very, vere ycomes rules as it comes to the issueto of voting by mail. and they tried to circumventtri thatto of amending the constitution by merely passing legislation. and these are legitimate questions, professor, of from a legal point of view, they are. and all he has to prove is that he understood and believed whether he was right or wrong. now, the real question is where the trial takes place. everybody has already said it's going to be in columbia. we know the judge, obama appointee. that's not certain. tost certion is lawyer will make will be a change of venue to northern virginiaai,
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where the jury pool will be fairer and he will judgeer. heavily democratic. >> also. >> well, yeah, but not nearly as much as the district of. and you could move it further. you could move it to southern virginia, wherly as mu e it's much more even. you can move it to an adjoining state. rememberand this is a federal indictment, so it doesn't have to be tried within the state ore the area. you can make a motion for a change of venue. so area a i think his lawyers e kept busy moving to dismiss the indictment on firstground amendment grounds, moving for a change of venue. s.ving forthey will probably ar, some form of selective n. ecutio the but the key point is going to be that the prosecution has to the jury of trump's subject of belief. and people who know trump say he really believed it. >> you know, donald trump totally. you think he believed it? i do. i think he believebeed >> y.
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i think it was see, you know, donald trump. do you think he believed it? >> i mean, i've talked to him about it. it?talked tu know, he he trulyr believes it. >> i disagree. i think he lef bet with him on record saying i thought he lost, but he has a right, ht his own opinion and that people still believe legal recoursehiopinio by challenging the electors, then he's entitled to do that. e's >> that's not a crime.hat' matt, do you believe he believed in, you knows , as well? >> i do. i've spent a lot of timeowll and i've i've talked>> i t to ab these issues. and i think he did seriously and honestly believeissues ad st the election was unfair and that if an honest count had been made that he would have won. >> i thinkhad he, passed a liel detector test. all right. net result herre, e. i agree with professor dershowitz. i believe he can'ta get a fair trial in d.c. if the trials in d.c., it's -- it's a fait complete it be a guilty verdict. what happens on appeal? does he win? greg jarrett, real quick, exitds question. he wi yeah, yeah, absolutely. 100% wins on appeal, circuit
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court of appeals or supreme court. >> all right, matt, you think he wins? >> i d o, because ultimately this deprivation of rights is about taking away an individual's right. and under the way it's pled, i don't see any individual that his right has been away. >> all right, professor, we'll give you that last sentence. i cut you off. go ahead. i think he may lose in theri states court of appeals for the d.c. circuit, but i think appeals the unitedn states supreme court if they grant review and they should grant review when shoul you have the president of the united states is. people going after his opponent in a political election, it hags to be beyond reproach. it has to be without any has rec to be the strongest case in history. >> this doesn't meet that standard. thout an prom said, all of you, great analysis. thank you all. all right. alsopt the sase in his tonight, just the news rt.com editor in chief in-chiefder john solomon has a breaking news report on evidence given to the special counse news 11at the 11th hour. this from former nypd commissionerth hour, bernie ker
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he joins us now to explain. this is very interesting because there was a lot written ab, this last minute material that was handed over to the special counselterial t. you apparently know what's in it. what what did you find? t. >> these are the investigative files that bernie kerik, as the chief investigator for rudy giuliani, put together november and december. and they're very interesting. g policeh the rawlininvest like investigation you would expect here, bernie kerik, to carry out a policepo investigation. it had scores of allegatiolice it had affidavits from people. it had a statistical from data scientists and other things lhat laid out all the potentia accusations. but it had not made any conclusions one way or the other about whether these allegations were true or not. this is going to go to the very issue that your guests just talked about. what trump's state of mindthes on january 4th, there's a memo written sayings were, we're goig to go tell congress what we found. congon't know if it's trueald tr
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not. we need them to go investigate. we need more time to go investigatress whauld knowe. at. that gives you a very strong state of mind of what rudy giuliani, bernie kerik and donald trump are thinking. they had a whole bunch of allegations, didn't havewere thi the resources of the time to find out if they're true and they'rs ofe for someone els to help them investigate it. that does not sound like and the a fraud, right? it sounds like an investigation that's just getting started. theslike inv gettinge files will go very heavily into the state of mind. i talked to several legal experts showing them some of the memos denied. they're saying, hey, this this e of really important piec evidence. jack smith is going to have a big hurdlesmith is trying to e with the show that donald trump was still and his legal team were still very seriously figung to figure out what was right, what was wrong when january 6 happened. >> all right, john solomon,ohn o great news, as always, editor in chief, just to news.com. lot as alwjohn, you. we now turn to the very serious, very credible bribery allegati allegations against the bidens. legal experts now are soundingb. the alarm over what could be one of the biggest y rruption scandals in therts sn
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history of this country. democrats are getting desperate as they now struggle to play defense after trying to claim joe only talked to hunter's business partners about, quote, oh, the weathe joe onlr pleasan. hi, how are you? what, on 20 occasions.ns, radical new york congressman dan goldman made these ridiculous comments on fake news cnn. take a look. n, >> this investigation, anderson, needs to end and it needs to endtake because what w doing is badgering a private citizenow ben and there's noe legitimate legislative purpose at all. it's truly purpos it's trulythis i stunning to me. this is the taxpayer fundes d defense and political arm of donald trump. the fact that a three committee congressional investigatcommite nation is looking into the plea deal of a private citizen. >> all right. remember, this is not the first time he's embarrassed himseliva the recent bombshell irs whistle blower hearing. he's the guy that accidental.
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he admitted that joe biden talked to hunter's business partners, which of course he promised over and over again as a candidate and as businesst that he never oncedida had a conversation with anybody about these foreign business deal deals. here was reaction. fox news contributorsiness d jonathan. charlie is with us. i know you've been working overtime. i've been watching all day, wori professor, but i think you hadng a little bit of a break here to give you some breathing room and maybk e a little more timeore time to consolidate your thoughts cons. this.his you were great on the fly all afternoon. let's get your overall takyou wf this indictment and compare it to what we learned yesterday. >> well, you know, this is free speech killing indictment.no there's no way around it. as you know, i write a great deal as an academic in the free speech area, and i've rarelye seen a more chilling filing by the department of justice. i mean, the question that people have to ask themselvesen is, when is the price too high?
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i mean, i people are obviously enraged, but when is the price too high to back donald trump? this indictment is thatitive prohibitive cost. i mean, what they are attempting to do is criminalize what they consider to be disinformatio n. and i have to tell you, thisth indictment is a really sad momentis i really for me. and i had hoped that if smith was going to indict on january six, that he would find unassailable evidence and unquestioned legal authority. he has neither in this indictment. but what he does have is the authinalization of political speech. >> you knoority. w, the way i take it, you're talking about prosecutorial discretiontical s and i go back to july of 2016, topsy classified information on hillary servers. >> james comey infamous line,ames c no reasonable prosecutor wouldom prosecute, negating the factecu.
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that 33,000 other emails that were subpoenaed were destroyed and devices were destroyed as well, which seems like a pretty stron andg case for obstruction. certainly her home wasn't raidedcertainl or the four locae joe biden where he had top secret classified information. >> you know what i'm hearing the most from my radio listeners and people that i that watch this show, professor, is theytch this theyy believe that we don't have s equal justichow, e in this couni right now or equal application of our laws thats country we have a dual justice system. is there merit to those claims? >> because i believe there is. i'm afraid there is merit and the public isn't buying it . you know, this week they saw more evidence on the corruption scandal, but they just heard from the irs investigate later saying that the investigation of hunter biden was fixe dfi and that they allowed major felonies to lapse when they didn't have to against s son.esident'
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>> and they ended up bringing a couple of anemicson. misdemeanorsmisdem instead of pursuing these veryng seriou theses charges.arges. and yet with the indictment today, smith is willinith the ge a former president to court. and i hope and a prayer, and iot don't think he has a prayer. i think that ultimatel, hoy, evn if he can eke out a conviction, i cannot imagine how thi castand an appellate review unlessd sta he's withholding evidence that we haven't seen. i mean, this is a speakingt doe' indictment, but it doesn't say very much. it basically just says that weu. think trump is lying that he actually didn't believe thi s . i mean, i can't tell you how facially ridiculous this claim is. it starts out by saying, well, you know, of course, you can say false things in the campaign, but then says, but trump knewthe , they were false. so is that the test going forward in terms of criminalizing political speech? the supreme court, in a case called alvarez, said that
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a politicianarez, who had liedt military decorations could not no constitutionally prosecuted for those lies. so smith is going to have to not just bulldozelly througf the first amendment. he's going to have to bulldoze through a line of caseamendms be supreme court. >> let me go to the devin archer testimony. i thought it was devastating yesterday. i really do. on sme courto levels because i has now brought to life the biden bribery allegations. they are very real. you know, beyond the lying about never having spoken to my son, my brother orot anybody, for that matter, about the foreign business dealings. >> you know, nearly a couple dozen phone calls made a key moments, especially the phone call with burisma executives in december, december 4th, to be exact, of 2015, resultingb in joe biden beginning the to make the case against viktor shokin, the prosecutor in ukraine and culminating in joecutor in biden leveraging $1,000,000,000 to get him fired and then also the net result of
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that firing was the enrichment of his own son continued and maybe $5 million to biden if they can ever find that money, which they said we couldn't find in ten years, according to the 1023 report. son how devastating is that? i can't think in my lifetime oft a presiden.t being accused oflie that kind of bribery. >> no, it is very serious.br obviously,iber it's the second crime mentioned in the impeachment clause. and the democrats really have to take some account right now. you know, i think what happene d ,representative goldman, is he looked ridiculous. he looked ridiculous withand denying the obvious. obviously, you're not going to sit at cafe milano and ask the vice president to ice pick the prosecutor in ukraine as you order breadsticks. i mean, itent to p is the wholet of the call was to establish the deliverable goals for hunter biden. he could deliver. he was a phone call away fromcaa his father. the way influence peddling occursy from, you do it by comm.
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it the fact is you shoon't do wm miyou have and that things can be done. so the democrats are really reaching that line, i think with in particularly with the american publiats are c, they'rt buying it. the polls show they believe this is a very serious show the corruption scandal and indeed it is. it may be the most serious scandal in my lifetime to come out of washington, d.c.at's and that's saying a lot in this city. >> i got to give you credi i've got a, professor. you were on as this was it.aking and you readility to read 45 pages as quickly be you did >> i admire because it took me over an hour. but anyway, we appreciate your time. >> professor jonathan turley, thank you. all right. here with more on today's events, attorney for formerpresd president trump, john lauro, is with us. to have you.t to have let's let's get the i'm sure you've spoken to the. thanks for being with us. i'm sure you've spoken to the president. let's get his reaction beyond his public statements. we've hearing from from
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one legal scholar after another and, they think this is an incredibly weak case. >> i lovt's get,e jonathan turls line the free speech killing indictment. om >> i wish i thought of i onet. . >> well, the president is strong and resolutene, . wish i he has a fight in front of him. but this is the first time thati in the history of the united states at the justice department is the has weaponizh and politicized ased political speech. the pres the president believes in his heart that he had not y butresponsibilit the right as any american to contest issues in the 2020 election to raise important facts that the public needed to know. and now that policy, that advocacy is being prosecuted and is being prosecuted by his political opponent who controls the justice department and is using the tools, the sacre and tools of the criminal justice system to censor a political in the middle of anlection
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election period where president trump by by all polls is leading and at the same time ,president biden is facing an unbelievable, unprecedente d and it scandal that goes directly to his ability serve in office. we are on uncharted territory. we are in a constitutional abyss right now. but one thing about this indictment, we're going to we're going to take it, look at it very, very carefully t. but it addresses one major issue, and that's an attack, the first amendment, that should never be allowed in this country. john, what were the first words of the president on truth? >> social had a line in there that really struck me. thisa londthey do two years ago? why did they wait so long? and he writeont whs because they wanted to put it right in l the middle of my campaigong? n. and he is calling this election interference. why didn't if they felt this was a case as serious as they as seem to present it to th
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eople, american people, why two andwh a half years later, why in the of a campaign, sean hayes, now the chief opponent of the president, you, brad? yeah. yup. yup. and i know you've read the indictment and you've read the j six report. ther t e. it's just the same. it's -- it's just dressed up a little bit differently. the department of justice could have rubber stamped this, you know, a year ago i are eable. f wantedstice co to, but. but it was.ha a timrubbe whendle we're in the middle of a political campaign to censor one political candidate who's getting his message out. and nocew the reality is that instead of vying for votes the n and engaging in the kind of discussion that we need in this country, the biden justice department wants president trump to be in artmenw courtroom and not campaigning. and i think we know why. cour mr. biden andent tr the way that he he behaves, i mean, there's no doubt that he'd rather see president trumip fighting this out in ade courtroom than debating him
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on the issues that are really importannt trufight incourtrt te american people. >> do you do you believe this interference? do you believe that they purposely delayed this? i can't speak to their motivesk ,but i do know this, that we will litigate every issue including all of the the matters that were raisedis in that indictment that go to t the 2020 election. hat wereone thing that's very interesting right now, president trump will hav in thee subpoena power in connection with this case. so we will have the opportunity now for the first time in many instances, to subpoena documents, to subpoena witnesses, to get to the truth as to what happened in 2020. and that's all tha gett president trump wanted from day one. he asked mike pence pause the voting, send it back to the states so that they can recertify or they can do an audit. but everything the president s with advice of counsel and getting to the truth that should never be criminal. >> assuming that the president did not believminal.
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e this and being say able to prove that. i would say that that is task impossible. ible and that is the position i believe this indictment has put prosecutor positiois indics john lauro, donald trump's attorney on this case. thank you, sir, for being us. all right. here with more on today's breaking news, former senior adviser to president trump, steven miller, fox news . day's brr jason chaffetz steven, let's let's get letadvio let'r s get your point of view from the perspective of the politicset's of this in light of everything we learned y and looking at a department of justice that clearly seems to be weaponized. >> well, the politics of this,aa sean i think, are clear. you're going to see millions of voters rally million donald tru a result of this unprecedented persecution. will and you're going to see his campaign turbo charged. but that doesn't the fact thatti they are trying to throw this man in jaing tl for multiple lie sentences. >> so what's at stake here is the president's freedom. and as your other guest said,
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free speech and the constitution itself. >> sean, this indictment is the legawhatl equivalent of the freh guillotine. nstituti terror. this is a mob mentality to take donald trump. they are criminalizing free speech. they are criminalizing resistance in the deep state. they are criminalizing the questioning of an election,r result. >> they are criminalizing any iminalizing resistance. democrat officials in the states who violated election laws. s in the they are criminalizing anyone who resists doj on anyed elect y policy matter whatsoever. >> free speech will not survive if this indictment succeeds. >> you know, jason, i knowwi are actively involved in the russia hoax. covered that story for three years. we ended up getting every report right on this. of the the rest of the mob and the media, they were wrong. they were peddling liesddling and conspiracy theories day after da ly night after night, ni, seven month after month for they continued it.
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what did we learn from the durham report? what did we learn from michael horowitz's report that, in fact,at do weearn fro in the, operation crossfire, hurricane never should havtz repore been n in terms of the dossier that andrew mccabe was so necessaryyr for the approval of the fisa of p that help backdoor spy on the trump campaign and presidency. what did we learn? not a single thing in that trumcy, what could be verified,t one thing. hillary clinton's bought and paid for dossierould be . so that goes on.ary the american people now have and pa culmination of two impeachments, three years of a russia hoax. now, one indictment after another after another wahoaxs to one short of follow in fulton county, georgia. whlly do you believe that? >> the reason that you b the president's poll numberselm keep going up after something like this happens is because thi people see this not as prosecution, but persecutiose ? yeah, i think when you sawn jack smith come to the microphone about 6 p.m. eastern
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time and lay out his case, there was no case. he had no smoking gun. s he had no directmith c evidencef the president doing something illegally. i think when he went up to thato microphone and he laid out that indictment, he actually vindicated donald trump on a lot of things. a anuary 6 committee brouhaha and all that garbage t on, didn't they? they had all these allegations against donald trump and he did this and he did that. >> there's nothing in thisdotrus indictment against donald trump about getting rioters to go into the capitol. they they didn't they left out the part about peacefully. they purposely left that purposely, patriotically march to hear your let your voices be heard. you know what? they kept out. this is the sad thing about heard.mmitte the d about this is no, no, no changes were made to prevent a january six fromen ever happening again. that can't happen agaija n. jason, in this country, they didn't put in place. they didn't examine lester holt
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holt reported about actionable intelligence in the weeks and the days leading urep to january six. in the days prior to january six, the capitol chief begging for help because of t thatlligencece tha showed that there was likely e and hadbe troubl they taken action, we could prevent incidents like thisliket from ever happening again, protect our institutionsagain. and all elected officials. >> that's right. and so you look at this indictment today, they didn't go after him that. and you know what? i've also got to mention reiterate what you said earlieru look andictmentodt curious that the timing always ree hours, literallyrs, li hours after there's bad newste aboutht joe biden and hunter biden, then they throw an indictment. they want to kno biden tn comiat it's coming. >> it's going to come. it's to come the next time we have hunter biden news. that's what it's going to come out of georgia. >> oh, it's happened three times. but i'm sure it's a mere coincidence. congressman.
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i think it's a conspiracy theory. steve, real quick. yeah, final 15 seconds. >> you get the last word. you want to talk about a conspiracy against the united states, then throw the mueller team in jail. throw the clintothink is conspi, throw everyone perpetrating the russia hoax in jail. that was the conspiracy against the united states, just like biden has been conspiringunited with his son hunter, to and, by the way, enriching hi thrmai. his entire family. and that was laid bare forth the country to see yesterday. and that's only the beginning of joe biden's>> bm and hi brib, allegations that are moving forward and they will move forward. all right. thank you, paul. straight ahead tonight, and is doing everythingd to in their power to keepni trump off the ballotgh in 2024,. but they don't seem to want biden either. we'll discuss the latest polls. tomi lahren, will cain, our next. and then the great victor davis. wo running is awesome. but her moderate to severe but her moderate to severe eczema hin.
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all right. so while the media mobht, whil is obsessing over donald trump, things are not going for your president, joe. according to a recent "new york times", sienaccorda, f of democrats now think that joe should be replaceddemocrat on the ticket by someone else in 2024. the growin should bg number ofresp respondents citing his age as their major concern his. an by the way, that's kind of easy, to understand why. bu is f easy tt also, because os failures and scandals swirling around his presidency nows engulfing his presidency, especially after yesterdaypresi biden is now spending the entire week frolicking in the not spe beach in delaware even went to seelaware the oppenheimer movie. movie told tonight. not a care in the world. if you hear a guy snoring in the back row, that's probably joe. why should he care? his dothe bag is attorney genert fully protecting him and persecuting his chief political opponent.
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and by the way, can someone please pretty please see that, t guy with his shirt offty and somebody buy him a t shirt?m i don't know. maybe a make america great again t.ica here was reaction. the host of tomi lahren is fearlesagain t-h reactis on x and friends weekend co-host will cain. tommy, good to see you. we begin with you tonight. nobody to want himll kane. on the ticket. my prediction is once a couplero of key democrats look at thisat bribery alec scandal allegation, which is now verywh real. isvery and joe's life, the evidence seems overwhelming. yesterda r life, y, devon archer, very compelling. one by one, i see dominos. >> am i wrong? you're not wrong. but make no mistake, if the democrats could get rid of joe, they certainly would. they would install gavin newsom. as i've been sayinng? wrog, months.joe, t but they have one little problem. they woulds. is kamala harrihe so they've backed themselves into a corner. now, they don't want joe. pigg can't defend joe, but
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they have to they have to prop him up like a weekend at i bernie's, because if they don't, they will be pigeonholed into pickino, af g harris as his replacement. and as much as they don't want joe, they really don't want to deal with kamala because she has no excuse, not old. she really doesn't have anyth scandals that we knoeyw of. so she's just bad all onon't w her own and they don't want to runan her., so they have to keep circling the wagons around joe. t old, sdoeswhether they like ie >>r. could you imagine four year of hearing about the passage of time is about time passing, and we're all passing through time, which is the passage of time anyway. well, let's get your take. >> you know, i have to admit, thoughta, i disagree with tommy. i have believed the same thing for quite some time, that the best insurance policy for joe biden is kamala harris. bunow, i ht i think that you dee with the problem directly in front of your face instead ofurance pis kamal the problem d and the problem in front of their face. faces jo joe biden. so, shawn, you've had great legal analysis on the showe sheo
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tonight about this donald trump indictment. for us, for me and tommy, we get to look at the political effect of this. and, you know, it's shouldn'tant go at every time there's ced a scandal with joe biden. the next day or within days, there seems to be a new indictment for donald trump. so this is right on the heels of devin archer's testimony, thlyou mention, the politica effect of these two eventsth i think will be very little on donald trump. i meane po ese even we've seen this play ot time and time again. this is the hat trick of indictments. and time his numbers go up.tmens but that devon archer testimony was the beginnin. numbersg i th, there's still. eric schwerin there are other business executives, china.e bei there's hunter biden himself. and james comey's just begunnnt. the deposition phase. and i came away from that yesterday thinking this begun phaseis going get undeni this is a corrupt influence peddling, bribery based regime, that is going to be undeniable to democrats and that will be the problem in front of their face. they'll get to the problem of it will be m in fro, but they're going to have to deal with the problem of joe biden. of kamal
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, i think of joe biden. and we played the tape so often, probably people mad of me if i played it again. we do have it racked up, butthi i won't play it, tommy, ofme if joe biden as a candidate. but we alsain. o joe biden as president repeatedly saying not one time did i ever talk to hunter, my brother or anyone else, for that matter, about the farm business deals only in ne else the forethe last week ad that evolve into we stand by our position that joe biden was never in busines s with hunter. then we've got this timing in this phone call in december 2015 leading up to the moment joe biden leverages $1,000,000,000, he gets the prosecutor investigating burisma and his son fired and hunter continues to enrich himself. >> wow. mere coincidence. and how deep does this go? i believe will resonate with the american people. they will see this for the bribererican y scandal allea that it is and they'll believen it'sit's real.
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i hope you're right about that. eal. i know the three of us believeh that. and your audience largely, i'm sure, believesthree of us educated audience that keeps up with politics. but i can't helplargely but thk about the americans out there that are not watching hannity tonight. they're not watching fox news. >> they're watching bravo or they're not paying attention to news, general. so that's what i'm really concerned about here. and you see joe biden offpoli gallivanting at the beach. why? because he knows that he can't campaign from the basementcan't in this case the beach, because he's got the media doing for him, the justice system going in overtime for him. at the beach, each beou'v the intelligence agencies and law enforcement agencies going to work for him. >> sca the media o he's pretty comfortable on that beach. >> okay. who's going to be the. >> tommy, you go first for bee democrats, gavin newsom, who's going to bace. s a go >> mr. cain, sir.in it's going to be gavin newsom.no >> it will not be joe biden. wow. i bet if gavin'se watching tonight, he says he watches every night. i think he's probably got a big smile on his face.
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all right. thank you both for being with us. when we come back. nighn, he reacts us.y to the new trump indictment and our two tiered system of justice. and of course, devin archer's devastatintier of g from yesterday. >> thank you for being with us. you're a man who makes people afraid, and that's dangerous. >> getting the feeling i know you're from someplace. you do time. this town has a new sheriff on louisiana. $500. and i don't care who pulls the trigger. price will be a thousand. we're talking about hiring a gunfighter like that. what do we know about him? who is he? where do you come from? why didn't you take my call? what did it say? i got a double i'm doing and answered the phone every time. and rex?
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sherman is a demon, a predator that ruined families. this investigation is far from over. hunting the long island serial killer hosted by nick boyce. >> streaming now on fox nation h . all right. as we continue on this busisy bg ht, breaking news night. joining us now to put all of daday's news in perspective is hoover institution senior fellow victor davis hanson. vihans.you are a great lion. and in your column this week, the left wing's weaponization of the legal system is playingi. fire. i love that line. tell us wh why.y. well, i think systematicallyca out ofll some strange and bizare pathological hatred of donald trump antrumd fear of donald tr, they're dismantling the constitution. bric constituk by brick. they're destroying 234 years of election protocol. i mean, there was a linewa in there, sean. i read the indictment. it said that donals d trump was
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guilty, quote, of unlawfully discounting a legitimate vote. if that were a crimete v, stace. abrams would be in prison for two years. >> she said she wa for s governor ofillary georgia. we had hillary clinton say that trump was illegitimate c s and shere was going to join the resistance. even jimmy carter said that the russianssi jimmy got him eld and he was illegitimate. remember those movie stars he , sean? in 2016, they cut commercials remes to nullifyor their constitutional duty and ignore the popularr titution their state and swing it to hillary. 24 we had 32 house democrats the and. senator barbara boxer tried to throw out the ohio delegation, the ohio statet to tally to swing it to john kerry. >> so it's this asymmetricalt' asymmetry and the unequas l of the law that bothers people. so they're going after trump's t subordinates for supposedly saying, i don't know. that's what james come y did 245 times under oath in front ofs in
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devin nunes, his intelligence committee. cor brennan, andrew mccabe, james clapper. they not only lied under oath, they did admittedl r oathy so they admitted they did without consequences. >> donald trump, a phone call. and what happens is impeach doen joe biden makes a phone call. he doesn't threaten to delay. 'the says he's going to cancel and he he doesn't look for corruption corrupt, adds to it.n >> he fuels it. nothing happens. he takes documents as vice president and as senator for a decade. nt and ar and a half.er three locations. nothing. trdsends the fbi after donalald trump, the american people, you know, they're sick of they're sick of the collusiothen 201016 farce. they were sick of the russianhee disinformationre laptop of 2020, and they can't eveevn wait till 2024. and i think at some point riople are going to conclude that if they don't say something and rise up, they're not going to have a country left. >> you expressed in thess same column and thought, i've been making not quited ie as as you. >> you say. to be blunt, biden is one more serioui' bees fall from physicae
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and capacity. >> i would say he's one fall away from from an avalanche of democrats abandoning him, coupled with now significant very reanow l bribery scandalda allegations. what happens him.l, absolutely. and well, i mean, the conversation, the narrative was maybe, maybe not. he will ru runn now. n it's he probably won't. and then the narrative is noarwo maybe he won't even be able to finish out his first term. and the narrativout his terme w, maybe there's kobilinsky and maybe archer. arch is,that the narrative well, there's irs whistleblowers and there's oligarchs in ukraine thaistleble evidence and there's documents. so it's mounting. it's acceleratinndocumentsg in a his physical in capacities and the case againstci. >> and that's reflected sean in this shrill, desperate to criminalize this candidate, donald trump, and ruin him
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in an asymmetrical fashion. and i think it's smmetricao obvs that finally, what can't go on won't go on. it's ocan't gon won'n sustainabo and the american people are going to say we're either going to have a countrin sayy or we're going to have this banana republic that we're seeing now under the biden and they'llratin vote accordingly and get rid ofa thisrdingly stuff, because if they don't, it's toxic. we don't have a country anymordt . >> you know, and i think you're right on both points. i think thespointse allegationsy be the end. do you see any democrat and iy only have about 20 seconds. any democrat, prominent democratmocrats now saying this is too real. >> we can't risk it. and going against biden?re >> not yet. w but there are going to bein democrats in purpl purple state they go back and look at the end their summer vacation and they look at the pollingmme they don't want to go on record of do we get going along with it? so i think tl you'll seeow some defections for their own survival. grea t to have you, victor davis hanson, as always, thank you. quick programing note. is hansowe'll have live studio e
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