to rescue the constitution. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for this "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. we have had a busy week. and it's only wednesday. the ingraham angle is next. good night from washington. ♪ ♪ >> laura: hey, everyone i'm laura ingraham this is the ingraham angle from washington tonight. co-conspirator for john eastman says his client will never plead guilty in the january 6th indicates. tonight he is here to tell us why. but, first, the real election meddlers that's the focus of tonight's angle. >> this indictment it is cringey. >> this indictment reads like it was written by adam schiff himself. >> i can't tell you how facially ridiculous this claim is. >> he has extravagantly

stretched these statutes in order to try to capture this behavior. >> laura: for me the words farcical. ridiculous, abusive those words came to mind. but, after going over the document for the second time earlier today i realized it's far worse than any of that what jack smith and his boss merrick garland are doing not just to trump, but to the nation going forward is devastating. now, the doj, the white house, every member of congress knows the truth. the rag tag group of maga supporters who busted into the capitol on january 6th it no meaningful effect on the democratic process on that day. only propagandists could call it an insurrection. after all, the election was certified and donald trump left office on january 20th. the real conspiracists working to deprive people of their rights are found at the department of justice. and their press spokesman include news anchors, reporters,

and pundits across the regime media. i think the sum total of their knowledge about law and history seems to be whatever they remember from the lyrics of the broadway musical hamilton. >> it's about the office. this is not just about donald trump. as i was washington this morning look over mt. vernon. george washington left the white house. left the presidency after two terms. that was the plan, the model. so it's about more than donald trump. >> george washington teaching him thousand say goodbye. john adams lost and he also taught everybody when you lose, you go quietly. really fundamental question. >> laura: i'm glad she liked play. now, not wanting to leave politics apparently is a bases for a federal crime. are you listening to these people? has anyone by the way told nancy pelosi and dick durbin about this? the bottom line is this: trump was charged with two counts of conspiracy and two counts of obstruction of an official proceeding for adopting and pressing an unconventional and

controversial legal view. that the electors in this presidential race could be replaced with new electors. well, the indictment, according to that analysis is, a complete sham. if this is how low the bar is set going forward, then smith and garland and every prosecutor who pushed this fraud of a case should all expect to face similar treatment to what they're putting trump through. in indictment the drama queens in smith's office claim that trump was determined to remain in power in conspiracies that targeted a bedrock function of the united states federal government. the nation's process of collecting, counting and certifying the results of the presidential election. now, again, by this same logic, an aggressive republican lawyer could argue that the biden prosecutors themselves are the ones currently conspiring to target a bedrock function of the u.s. government. in this case, the 2024 presidential election.

i have another question here. why did it take jack smith's office two years or so to file this indictment? well, we all know why, don't we? because it's a political weapon that is most effectively used as the 2024 campaign is just heating up. but hell will have no fury like a republican controlled doj after this fiasco. i'm telling you that. but journalists who know better, they are so overcome with tld, trump loathing disorder, that they don't even notice the irony and the double standard staring them in the face. >> in this conspiracy, this series of conspiracies, one of them was to defraud the united states and the ability for the electoral system to count these votes. the conspiracy to impede the ceremonial function of congress to certify the vote. and then, of course, to -- the

conspiracy to deny the rights of americans to have their votes be counted. >> laura: does he not hear the words coming out of his own mouth? with their relentless and baseless persecution of trump using these wild legal theories, garland and smith, they are the ones seeking to deny voters of their right to vote for the candidate of their choosing, in this case, donald trump. and for that matter, why shouldn't president biden and his pals face the same fate after he leaves office? because, again, we are just applying their standard. the jack smith standard of criminal federal prosecution, apply that here and one could argue that joe's lies about not knowing hunter's foreign clients and the doj slow-walking the hunter biden investigation both of those things altered the democratic process. how, you might ask? by depriving voters of material facts that they needed before the election.

i'm telling you plenty of possibilities for unindicted co-conspirator there so you see where this is all going to lead, right? a never ending carousel of prosecutions by one party in power against the party out of power. >> talk about corrosive. america starts looking more like pakistan or, i don't know, venezuela? >> from time to time america faces threats from monsters who want to destroy our democracy. pearl harbor, 1941, 9/11, 2001, donald trump just like those other threats to american democracy, tried to destroy our system. >> rule of law is powerful. it can prevail. it can preserve democracy if this trial is allowed to reach a firm conclusion. >> this will be a vindication of the constitution democracy. and i think, also, a fact-based government. >> laura: once again, biden's

henchmen aren't defenders of democracy. they are offenders of democracy. the doj's goal here is very clear: you get in our way, you threaten to root out d.c. corruption and we will do whatever it takes to destroy you by using the full force of the federal law enforcement against you. and if that requires twisting precedent or dispensing with real evidence of intent, or applying rarely used interpretations of statutes, so be it and we will brings that case before a liberal judge in a democrat district and the fix will be in. and all the while, the country becomes further divided and more disgusted. and the rest of the world starts thinking that our democracy is a joke. auto crautocrats said say we tou so. follow us because america is done. whatever you think about the reasoning of trump's legal team

back before january 6th, regarding the seating of the electors, the certification of the vote, it doesn't matter because we don't live in a country where disagreements about politics or the law, land you before a federal grand jury or bankrupt you. or at least i didn't think we lived in that type of a country. until yesterday. thanks, jack. and that's the angle. me now is mike davis article three project and david schoen former trump impeachment lawyer. mike, i'm watching larry tribe in our arrange gel, basically the inventor of the novel, you know, controversial legal theory that gets shot down left and right and now that's apparently a federal crime. >> yeah. i mean, i didn't realize that objecting to elections was a felony in the united states of america, at least it wasn't in 1968, 2,000, 2004, and 2016 when democrats objected to.

>> laura: or stacey abrams. >> or stacey abrams. it's just unreal what merrick garland and jack smith are doing here. they are leading america into a very, very dangerous place. >> laura: it was easy yesterday well this is ridiculous and throw up your hands. this is typical. the more i thought of it, when i really played it out in my mind 10, 15 years from now, this puts us on a collision course with the real rule of law and the equal application of justice, the principles that really are the bedrock of our country. >> you know, laura, i hope that people will play your monologue today over and over and over again. you hit on the key points. for me, as a criminal and civil rights lawyer for a long time, criminal defense lawyer and civil rights lawyer for a long time and i also do a lot of election voting right and ballot access work. aclu hired me to represent shelby county vs. holder. i take these things very seriously. this indictment is written for public consumption and try to

get before a d.c. jury and for political reasons and no other reason. hour dare they criminalize as you say disagreements over election practices. the election laws in this country are in array for a number of reasons. one of the leading and most respected election law experts in the country has said and certainly not a trump supporter, over and over again the electoral counteract is impossible to understand. and that anyone who believes they really understand what the vice president's role was with respect to electoral counteract doesn't know what they're talking about. you can be sure and a defense to this-to-this case will be, president trump believed and believes in his heart and soul that the election was stolen from him and from the 75 million people or more who voted for him. and that he had an obligation to stand up for it. you canning also believe for sure that he was advised every step of the way by people he understood to be experts. that's at the heart of trying to criminalize something like this. that's all i have to say about

that. >> laura: conflicting legal opinions. i mean, because that never happens in washington where one side argues one thick and the other side argues the other. mike, cnn thinks it can basically no phi trump's first amendment rights by framing the whole thing as the need to root out corruption. watch this. >> he tried to corrupt the institution of government. he tried to do that through trying to corrupt the institution of the justice department, to try to get the justice department to take official action. tried to get state legislatures to take actual actions tried to use the authority of the institution of the vice president of the united states mike. >> laura: mike, what's the reasoning? what's the legal precedent for the corruption argument? >> that's a very good question, laura. jack smith is a political hit man sent in to take out republican presidential candidates like he did with virginia governor bob mcdonnell back before 2016. he was overturned unanimously by the supreme court 8-0.

it would have been 9 to nothing but justice scalia passed away. it's hard to get a criminal conviction overturned. he did it unanimously. that's where this is heading. again, the problem is the supreme court probably will not take this case before the 2024 presidential election. >> laura: the key to the prosecution here he chimed in today on this indictment. watch. >> i can't assess whether or not the government has the evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt what they assert in the indictment. i want people to know that i had no right to overturn the election. sadly, the president was surrounded why a grouch crackpof crackpot lawyers that kept telling him what his itching ears wanted to hear. our country is more important than any one man. >> your reaction to that? >> mike pence has made clear that he doesn't believe there was a criminal act committed either. that's the fundamental heart of this. we have charged here a criminal

offenses. that's an abuse of the system. that's not how we operate. again, when laws are in disarray, like these are, one can't have notice of what would be criminal conduct in this case. again, people may disagree with his methodology but he tried to go through -- what's clear is he tried to go through the legal mechanism he understood applied. you can be hauer donald trump didn't come up with the idea of electors and whether there can be alternative and so on. do you think donald trump was aware 29 states as well as the district of many colombia biden their electors to the vote? >> i'm not -- pence bashed trump over the indictment. but i think what he was saying is i don't know about intent but i was right on the constitutional matter. that's fine. he might think he is right. trump might think he's right. but that's not a crime. so i think mike pence's comment

helps trump oddly in this. do you agree with me on that. >> i do agree. i would also say this. any republican politician who thinks what merrick garland and jack smith are doing here is justified, have disqualified themselves from election to office. >> laura: mike pence is not going anywhere. he is in single digits. he might not make the debate stage. thank you both. >> thank you. >> laura: attorney john eastman thought to be one of the co-spirits in jack smith's indictment and attempt to have him barred. his lawyer is here next and tell us why his client will never plead guilty. you don't want to miss it, next. ♪

>> laura: i don't know, anderson, did you clerk on the supreme court? oh, wait, you didn't. the media can mock john eastman's criminal theory all they want. the issue is criminality. eastman made an argument i

wouldn't have made but one i disagreed with at the time and disagree with now but it's not a criminal act to have a novel legal theory about something. even if it's about something like the electors and the constitution. advice given from an attorney used to be sacrosanct and it usually falls under the attorney-client privilege. but this is just another norm that the left will sacrifice on the altar of getting trump. telling fox news that he believes eastman is one of the co-spirits in the latest trump indictment but that he will never plead guilty to this anything related to this we are going to take this to trial. joining me now is that attorney co-counsel sill for john eastman harvey. harvey, good to see you don't. what makes you so confident in your case? >> well, because the eastman advice was in the realm of good faith legal advice. it was certainly cutting edge. it was creative but, you know, that's what good lawyers are supposed to do.

and eastman's advice was perfectly within the realm of good faith legal advice. i don't have any doubt about it. i'm sure we can get experts to testify to that, if necessary. if eastman is charged, he is going to trial. if is he convicted, he is going to appeal. we will never ever make a deal. >> laura: well, i don't understand. their argument is that he was facilitating a crime with the advice? and, obviously, their interpretation of these statutes and the application of the statutes themselves are novel legal theories without really clear intent established. so they're guilty of the standard that they're applying to trump and eastman, i guess, and the others. it's crazy. >> this whole thing has become so politicized that it's not even funny. it is a blot on the department

of justice, in my view. i don't think. >> laura: but the president now is not allowed to rely -- he is not a lawyer, trump, obviously. but he is apparently going forward. presidents aren't allowed to rely on one group of lawyers if they disagree with whatever the media or democrats think are the better group of lawyers. to me, again, how is that a legal standard for criminality, a group of lawyers that disagreed with each other. >> what's happened is all of this has become highly politicized and this is the most politicized indictment that i can remember in my 50-plus years of being a criminal defense and civil liberties lawyer. and i think that the courts are not going to fall for it. if there's -- it's always possible every so often you can get a district court judge who will go with any theory. but, ultimately, it's going to be the appellate courts and we

don't have any real fear that eastman is going to be convicted in the end. it's going to be a long, painful expensive process if they indict him. i hope they don't. by the way, we are -- early next week john burr ma'am, who is the chief counsel, he brought me into the case and i are sending a memorandum to the department of justice arguing, explaining in law why this would not be a proper indictment. we are giving away our defenses but we are that confident in our case keep them from indicting him. >> harvey, they are also trying to disbar john eastman. now, offering a legal theory that the establishment doesn't like is now grounds -- again, i didn't happen to agree with his legal reaching but it's

something you can argue and now that is a ground for disbarment so you can no longer practice law? >> let me telling tell you something about the disbarment. what is being done in california is shameful. the reasonable is this. mind you, i did not vote for donald trump. this is not a partisan argument. i'm sort of a libertarian liberal. that's my politics. insteadying of waiting for the court process looking to disbar and take away his ability to fund his own defense in the criminal case. do you see what i'm saying? >> laura: yeah. so that's a shameful political development in california. all around, there are very few people with any when it's over

somebody passionate a lot of reputreputreputations with are o down the sewer. will. >> laura: you didn't vet for donald trump. every civil libertarian across the country should be outrablegd when you actually can't fund your on defense and they are trying to remove your ability to work before the court case is even proceeded. for a legal dispute. harvey, i know we will have you back. we have got to roll. thank you for joining us tonight. >> he has got a defendant who is looking at probably six trials. >> it is entirely realistic to have this case before the general election. >> hard to imagine voters coming to a judgment on who should be the next president if this trial has not happened. >> jack smith's team is in a race against the clock. there's just no other way to say it. >> laura: a race against the clock. huh? why might that be? if you are sitting inside president biden's wilmington re-election headquarters, a "new york times" poll confirms the current political reality. donald trump can win a rematch

with joe biden. >> laura: and that's not all in today's "the washington post" we learned about a june meeting between biden and obama where the former president warned biden about how formidable trump might be. here now to unpack the political fallout from all of this victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institution. victor, given all that, people might be forgiven when they see these actions by biden's doj as kind of, i don't know, the newest insurance policy against a potential trump victory. that's what it looks like from this vantage point i think that biden has -- has been guilty of impeachable offenses himself. but that's become a political act impeachment. they have got to decide at what point it's either advantageous politically or it's not. i don't know where that point is. but it's not quite here yet.

and then there is going to be pressure on the special counsel. but given the record of lawrence walsh or patrick fitzgerald or robert mueller, jack smith i don't know if they want to outsource an investigation into somebody appointed by this administration. so that's a dilemma. and you are absolutely right about mike pence it's absolutely a death sentence as a candidate to show any empathy with this miscarriage of justice but then the other candidates, five or six of them, they have got to thread a needle because they are running against donald trump and they are outraged about the way he has been treated and they understand what the democrats are trying to do. they are trying to gain empathy for them and then tie them up, bank runt him, ruin him and hope that he is the candidate. and so what can they do? i guess their only candidate a, b, c, d, e is going to have to say "i am free of legal encumbrance free to be advocate to pay back these people what they did to donald trump."

it's a morass, it's awful. when you think about what's happened. >> laura: it's a carousel of prosecutions. i'm going to say that it will never end. when republicans get the justice department, the republican president is in. there is going to be a lot of people out there that gore their oxes i'm not saying that would be right but can you see where this will go. >> they will say line -- they are going after trump's subordinates. how about, comey, brenner and mccabe destruction of evidence? how about emails and devices that hillary destroyed? they are going after election denialism, how about the 2004 election? how about stacey abrams? how about hillary saying that the trump was not legitimate? how about the collusion hoax that tried so subvert an election? how about the disinformation? they can for every tit there is a tat. and if they get in power, the democrats should understand that they are establishing standards or lack of standards that are

going to come back and boomerang against them in their un hiewb uberous. they wouldn't day do that. >> laura: they think as long as we get rid of trump everything will be okay. the dog will bite them next time. victor, thank you. fitch just downgraded the country's credit rating as in our country. why isn't anyone talking about this. virginia governor glenn youngkin is here on that. plus his quest to make early voting the republican's weapon in the next election. very smart. so stay there.

>> i think the american people see's going on. whether or not this is a weaponized department of justice trying to divert attention away from biden corruption or trying to take out top chief political opponent in the upcoming election, the american people see through this. ♪ >> laura: and each axios is noticing, writing that the indictment is overshadowing a string of not so great stories

for president biden. now, there is no denying the corruption scandal swirling around hunter biden and the president himself, but that's not all. mere hours before the indictment was filed, we learned an alarming rise in illegal border crossing in the united states and nearly simultaneously with the indictment being filed another hit to the biden administration, the rating service fitch downgraded the u.s. credit rating citing the country's deteriorating fiscal position and political instability. now, the white house was quick to jump in to blame trump. joining us now on set virginia governor glenn youngkin. governor, this is your old line of work. how important is that rating system and what could that portend of things to come? >> well, i think what it says is that the financial profile of the united states of america is under huge pressure. and we know that and the american people know that just ask them. just ask them every virginian

when they go to the grocery store it's a gut punch. and what they have seen since the beginning of the pandemic is a 40% increase in the cost of groceries. every time they go to the gas pump, it's a shock to say wait a minute. >> laura: bidenomics is working, governor. we hear speech after speech, media figure after media figure. why aren't the american people feeling this yet? bidenomics jobs created. all this good stuff hang. >> yeah, you can change the words but you can't change the way people feel when they they go in the grocery store. that's what virginians see every day and that's what americans see every day. this is the issue when you have credit ratings that are dropped. when you have 22-year high in interest rates. when you have inflation that's been run away, even his own economists told him this before he let loose just unparalleled spending, it's hurting all americans. i will tell you i see it all the time. you see folks who can't make it work anymore. >> laura: it's heart breaking. >> almost 60% of americans live paycheck to paycheck because

they can't keep up with the cost of living in america and i see in virginia every day. >> laura: i see it, too. governor i know you are leading the charge for something we have been talking about on the angle now for two and a half years early voting. make it easier for people to vote absentee or early in person ahead of the state's crucial off year election coming up in november. so republicans can have like great policies and great answers to this economic disaster we are in. but if we don't invest in getting ballots in people's hands and then returned like, you know, mark zuckerberg and all these other people knew was important, then what is it all for? you are doing something? >> we have a huge election in virginia this year. it's virginia's midterms. our house and senate are all up. i have to hold our house and flip the senate. i need republicans to get in the game, fully. so we launched secure your vote virginia.com to make it easy to schedule to vote early. sign up for our permanent absentee ballot list. order mail-in ballot or make a plan to vote early. we need everybody to vote.

i am so frustrated in watching election returns on election day when the democrats show up with thousands of votes through absentee ballots. so, listen, i inherited these rules when i came nasa governor. we get to choose, are we going to compete or show up down 1,000 votes for a race? i'm going to compete. so we are signing up virginians to vote. republicans, please participate. >> laura: what are national republicans doing. you are doing in virginia. all these groups collect all this money and think tanks. what are grassroots organizations doing? do you know? >> well, they have gotten started. i think we are writing the playbook here in virginia. >> laura: good. >> we are leveraging what brian kemp did in georgia. they did a great job. we are now doing it in virginia. we will write the second edition to this early voting playbook and then hopefully it will be the playbook for next year in 2024. >> laura: trump indictment. what's your sense? >> well, i have said before that this two-tiered justice system on display is eroding everyone's trust in our legal system.

and the reality is if you're in the opposition party, you are treated one way. and if you are a friend of the party in power, then you are treated a completely different way. and this is eroding everyone's faith. i hear it every day in virginia. we can't trust our justice system right now. >> laura: will you ever consider jumping in? i can't tell how many people ask me because they know i know you would glenn youngkin ever consider if there was an opening for you to jump in? >> i'm so humbled when people say this to me. >> laura: oh, come on answer the question. >> let me be honest. i'm so focused on virginia this year we just talked about it. we have huge elections and we have a chance in 24 months to take a state that was completely blue. statewide led legislature and in 24 months turn it republican. i think we must get this done. we have to hold our house, flip our senate, and we can move forward with policies that, laura, when i came in, virginia was bottom third in job growth we are top five now. back the bluff and crime is coming down. we have stood up for parents.

>> laura: that sounds like a campaign speech, governor. >> i think people are noticing what we are doing in virginia and that's why we get so much attention. >> laura: you are not ruling it out. >> well, i am focused on our elections we are going to hold our house and flip our senate and we will show folks in 24 short months take a blue state that was lost and turn it red. >> laura: results. governor youngkin, thank you for stopping by in new time slot. >> i love your new time slot. i look forward to visiting you frequently. >> laura: new successor in the wings. raymond arroyo has all of that i have no idea what this segment is about. seen and unseen is next.

>> laura: it's time for "seen and unseen" segment where we explore the cultural stories of the day and for that we bring in fox news contributor raymond arroyo. all right, raymond, well, trump was indicted. the white house was keeping biden out of is sight. >> yeah, but the media could not have been more excited, laura, watch. >> the president is spending his evening with dinner and a movie. he just wrapped up dinner with the first lady at a local seafood restaurant and now he is at a movie theater watching oppenheimer. >> that's what the press pool asked him about, laura, how did you like oppenheimer. meanwhile it was if the obamas had returned to the white house

and date night was back. there were pictures of the bidens at dinner and even the biden's moonlight stroll was covered. i wonder what the president was thinking. >> there's a, you know, an elderly man and woman waiting to see if they have enough time. just grabbing their hand and walk them across. it's a little tiny thing but it, the anxiety it relieves. >> they had to keep him out of sight. they had to totally keep him out of sight as trump was indicted because they wanted the whole hunter narrative to die down and, boy, did it. now it's all about oppenheimer and moonlight strolls. >> i'm surprised someone didn't throw a sandbag. that's hard to navigate. that's a small walkway there. i wouldn't have done that to the president. give him a lot more light than that, raymond. >> they are holding his hand and secret service is close by. but, while dr. jill was posing for magazine covers, back in d.c., laura, the president's sister, israel valerie biden ows

asked if meghan markle might be presidential timber. >> it's wonderful to have women in politics. and we embrace all women and we welcome her to come in and join the democratic party. >> do you think she would make a good potential candidate one day maybe for president? >> yes. perhaps. of course she will. >> laura, she can do for the united states what she did for the royal family. this is one of the most lod loathedwoman pop culture. spotify and netflix killed deals with her now and now she is going to be president. >> laura: valerie biden looks like jane fonda. a combination of jane fonda and judge judy. if you mix those two that's what valerie looks like. someone should tell her though that they already have a democrat female understudy of

color and it's not meghan. >> yeah. don't worry. while joe is on vacation kamala has been hitting the interview circuit and it has been hitting her. >> there are reports that say that you have the lowest approval rating of any vice president. i'm curious, how much of a role, if any, that you feel race and gender play in that? >> well, there are polls that also say i have great approval rating. >> laura, that must be the harris poll. the kamala harris poll laura, every poll has her in the basement. nbc 49%. they have a negative view of the vice president. 39% a very negative view. and the monmouth poll 53% disapproval. you have got to work to get that low. sorry, there are no upsides to the polling on the vice president. >> laura: what does willie brown say? tell us about lizzo being sued by three of her backup dancers because america wants to know about this story, raymond.

a big story. >> an important story. remember when lizzo was casting dancers for stage show a reality program called "watch out for the big girls." >> i'm looking for dancers to join me on my tour. girls that look like me don't get representation. we thick and we pretty and we know what we are about. >> hard to love yourself when the world doesn't love you back. >> you are creating especially in your image for you to enjoy. watch out for the big girls. >> well, laura, if you believe the allegations by lizzo's backup dancers. they better watch out for one big girl in particular. one who was fat shaming them. >> i just had this feeling that they had a problem with the way i was gaining weight. she would pick and choose when she wanted to be professional and when she wanted things to be personal. she proceeded to say you know dancers get fired for gaining weight. you should basically be grateful to be here. >> you go from preaching about sisterhood to then turning and around and saying it's a privilege that you know us by

name. >> boy, this is actually a huge story. there's also part of the charge here, laura, is that lizzo coerced these women to go into sex clubs and. >> laura: what? >> interact with nude models. it's a wild allegation. we don't want to bring it all up during the family hour. but the thrill line here is lizzo pushing body positivity and, yet, fat shaming her own dancers. this would be like lebron james shaming somebody for being too tall. come on, lizzo ♪ exactly, you know, twiggy here, you know to be fat shaming these poor dancers. >> laura: twiggy, for the five people who know that reference in our audience, twiggy. kate moss. can you come up with something better than twiggy? twiggy? >> since it's a new century i will try. >> laura: that is the worst. >> it's about damn time that lizzo come clean and apologize to these dancers but this is a

bad look. >> laura: got to go. >> for somebody who has made their career on this. >> laura: all right. go to go. thank you, raymond. how bad is new york city's migrant crisis getting. democrats are publicly attacking joe biden for being asleep at the wheel. one of those democrats will join me, next. ♪

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>> new york city cannot continue to carry the weight of a national problem on our own. >> we need to control the border. we need to call the state of emergency and we need to properly fund this national crisis. we need help. it is not going to get any better. from this moment on, it is downhill. there is no more room. >> laura: how desperate is it getting for the one of the century city of new york? it may not -- it may end up telling city kids that they need to play somewhere else. closing soccer fields to build a migrant make a shelter?

also word that mayor adams is considering plans to cordon off over 3,000 spaces including in central park. and state college kids, don't worry about your classes because there's an idea to have you actually work to help migrants with their asylum applications. it seems like some democrats have had enough. my next guest says they are asleep at the wheel. robert holtmann join me now. i have said that democrats who care about regular working class people and republicans who care about regroup during regular working class people, work together on this border issue. so what is your message to the white house tonight? >> come up with a plan. we have not heard the plan. it is absurd. just let in 100,000 migrants, foreign nationals, unvented foreign nationals to new york city and say, here, take them. we will have to spend $8 million a day in new york city.

and again, we have not heard a plant from this administration. joe biden is asleep at the will put the whole administration is. >> laura: well, the word from secretary mayorkas and he just testified on capitol hill as you know, he said they are managing the border with the resources that they have and that the border, sir, is not open and that those who are saying the border is open our not telling the truth. what is your response to him? >> congressman holden: he is lying. we have 100,000 people in new york city that walked across unvented, how is that a border? how is that secure? nobody can figure it out. this is absurd. i mean, we have our eyes here looking at this outside, you know, the hotel roosevelt. look at that. does that make any sense whatsoever? that this border is secure? >> laura: councilman, the --

they are dealing with a horrible situation in texas as well. he tried to set up those buoys in the riogrande to prevent people from entering the country illegally. but the white house, well, this is how the responded. >> you see governor doing dangerous and actually hurting the process but it is hurting the process of what we are trying to do. the department of justice has been very clear have been very clear about that. they have been very clear about taking into court about unlawful actions. >> laura: they are trying to do something to stop the influx. you believe the white house is sincere when they say they want to help your city given the fact that they are suing texas. >> congressman holden: laura, this has been going on for a long time. it is not only this year. it is last year i went up -- i saw migrants in the hall sleeping in the hallways. by the way, ice is telling us it will be taking 10 years to

process the asylum application. >> 10 years. >> laura: new york can't wait 10 years. l.a. can't wait to 10 years. robert, we really appreciate you coming on. come back. that. that is it for us tonight. remember it is america. still now and forever. jesse watters, the whole gang, they take it from here. we will see you tomorrow night. >> jesse: welcome to "jesse watters primetime." tonight, -- >> make no mistake. they remain scared of you and they remain scared to death of trump. >> jesse: donald trump, the charges and the revenge tour. >> president biden: honorable as well as -- >> jesse: inside the biden impeachment game plan. >> i understand who you all. >> jesse: of the paul pelosi dy and the punishment