>> all right. he has been indicted now three times. he's facing 78 different charges and the president coming out with a missive, some say a warning, if you go after me, i'm coming after you. and that's added to this whole pressure city that some people say is on the president and then he returning it on them. griff jenkins following all of these fast moving developments in washington. griff. griff: hey, neil, good morning. a lot of pressure and crazy

calendar. trump's new reality from the courtroom to the campaign trail back and forth. a perfect example he keynoted that g.o.p. dinner in alabama a day after pleading not guilty to four felony charges in d.c. that stemmed from alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results. here he was railing against that last night. >> so this ridiculous indictment against us, it's not a legal case, it's an act of desperation by a failed and disgraced crooked joe biden and radical left thugs to preserve their grip on power. they want to do anything they can to preserve it. >> in the 24 hours between arraignment in d.c. and that fiery speech last night, special counsel jack smith filing a protective order against trump seeking to prevent him from publicly disclosing details related to the d.c. case for fear of compromising witnesses after trump posted that ominous warning on social media. we'll show you again, he simply said if you go after me, i'm

coming after you. now, trump's indictment this week was the third in four months face ago total of 78 charges as you mentioned in his former attorney general bill barr is blasting his former boss saying that this latest case has merit. watch. >> i don't like, you know, all of these overkill attacks that this was somehow reprehensible to bring it. what was reprehensible was the conduct after the election and it's perfectly to be expected that the department of justice would approach it the way it would approach something like this. griff: get this, neil, there's a chance we might get to watch this trial in real-time. democratic congressman adam schiff is leading a push for cameras in the courtroom, if he prevails and the justice allows tv's in that courtroom, move over judge ito time, you're watching tv. neil: you're going back in a

time capsule. you can't give that away. we'll see you next hour. and lucas tomlinson is a busy guy, the white house and the double standard of justice. lucas, how is that going? >> neil, this ex-baltimore police chief received 10 months in jail for owing $67,000 in taxes and many people say there's a double standard here, hunter biden owed much more, two million in taxes and no jail time. here is that ex-commissioner. >> everyone should be held accountable across the board, particularly if even the value, the money value, you know, some of the things that you described with the gun and narcotics, you know, it's-- you know, they should be held at the same standard as me.

>> neil, hunter biden and the ex-police commissioner were prosecuted by the same attorney, leo weiss. hunter biden has been charged with a misdemeanor for not paying over $2 million in taxes and criminal tax attorneys tell fox, a misdemeanor for owing this much money is unheard of, normally land you three to five years in jail for not paying that much taxes and the ex-police commissioner received 10 months in jail for owing $67,000 in taxes. president biden long denied he spoke to hunter about overseas business dealings, that challenged this week by hunter's ex-business partner who said he routinely spoke to persons including at a restaurant. >> the reason he lied vehemently with no discussions with his son he knew he was up deep in so many of his son's business matters.

he knew he put himself on the phone more than 20 times to help his son get business as the sitting vice-president, that itself, harris, is an act of corruption. >> now, hunter biden's legal team and doj prosecutors must fix the plea deal to satisfy the judge in wilmington after that plea deal fell apart last week, neil. neil: thank you, lucas tomlinson with the president in wilmington, delaware: a former u.s. attorney knows of what he speaks, glad he joins us. >> good morning, neil from miami, florida. neil: rub it in, young man. [laughter]. neil: let me ask you about the so-called threat that some are interpreting donald trump made on the truth social post, "i'm coming after you", the prosecutor's office says this could have a harmful chilling effect on witnesses and i

wonder whether that might have signaled prosecutors now cracking down on the former president's social media posts period? >> boy, i've got to tell you, neil, if i'm the president's lawyer i ask him not to make those kind of sort of brass knuckle kind of comments. it's one thing to go out and say, look, i am innocent. i disagree with these charges, they're trumed up, no pun intended, they're no good, but to say i'm coming after you, probably not a good move. neil: so where does this go? one of the things i notice in following the president's remarks and those that he, you know, posts on his truth social site, he looks at this in the broader picture, not so much getting into the weeds of the charges, 78 of them now over three different sets of indictments, maybe more could be coming out of georgia, we don't know. to say that this is actually a ka balance against us when he

talks about his supporters like he did in alabama, it's against us. obviously, that politically helps him. what does it do legally beside complicate cases? others could argue it puts those prosecutors on the spot as well. what do you think? >> well, good question. so, it really is just sort of a prelude, if you will, neil, to how brass knuckles this case is going to be. i mean, both sides, frankly, have taken off the gloves. this indictment is very, very aggressive. it remind me of looking at some of the old days al capone and the guardian indictments where you could be almost as aggressive as you want to be. that's, frankly, where the president and his team needs to be making the best arguments. this indictment is too

aggressive. they've taken stands that aren't supported by the law. the special prosecutor is way, way out over his skis on this case. that's where i think the president needs to be making his argument and frankly, there's merit to a lot of those arguments. neil: you know, part of it is just the lack of attention by comparison, you get on the hunter biden business ties, some democrats will say that's because there is no evidence. but i did have a chance to read the transcript of devin archer's comments to the oversight committee. i'm no lawyer guy, but watched enough l.a. law shows to know that there's something not quite right here. because to me, oftentimes seemed to connect hunter with the president and the brand, with the vice-president back then and the brand. one part that stood out at least to me, responding to questions concerning joe biden,

yeah, that it's fair to say obviously that brought the most value to the brand. it was hunter biden and him. we would discuss having union an understanding of d.c. and that's a differentiating component of us being able to raise capital. he goes on to say, yes, we would say we would have a unique understanding of d.c. how it operates and how the union could positively reflect on the terms of our business. what he's saying in no uncertain terms at least to me, yes, the brand includes joe biden without joe biden, there is no brand, without joe biden there is no burisma partnership, without joe biden there's nothing here. so i was a little perplexed when this all came out, from the comments i heard from some democrats on the committee there was no "there" there, nothing to see here, that appears to be worth digging into a little bit. i don't know if a special counsel is in order, but you can't leave that just lying out

there, can you? >> so, another good question, neil, and you represent -- look, you're smart, one the best journalists on tv and these are the kind of questions that we need-- we and i think a special counsel, would all due respect, i do think this case needs a special counsel. look, when you and i talked about this case in the past we asked each other, you know, what were the millions of dollars for? why would the then vice-president, now president, deny ever speaking to them. and we now know the answers and the answers are in the devon archer transcripts. i, like you, have gone back and read the transcript carefully, neil. in his words, why did we have the president? leverage. his words not mine. for access, which is influence. his words, not mine. to open doors, devon archer's, to intimidate, to ask the u.s.

government to weigh in on the special prosecutor in the ukraine. so, that answers our question, why would they pay hunter biden, who has really no business experience at all, why would they pay him millions and tens of millions of dollars and the answer is clear, he is the sitting vice-president's son and they predicted correctly, they bought correctly, now the president's son. so i think they spent their money for exactly what they thought they were, which was political influence. neil: and devon archer was very clear near the end of the hearing my only thought is i think that burisma would have gone out of business if it didn't have the brand attached to it and that brand was hunter biden and joe biden together, that brand was the connection of a former vice-president and a vice-president, of course, and now as we look back at this, as the president of the

united states. at the very least, a counsel is in order to sort of sort this out, right? >> i think so, neil. and then really, when you start to look at devon archer along with the wire transfers, the hidden accounts, the surreptitious way that he did business and all the texts, the phone call, everything together, good lord, i think we have a case that needs to be made and way, way more than just misdemeanor tax charges and probation. that's what really gets my gall on this, neil. and i think people look at it and say, it's just not fair. neil: thank you, guy. always good catching up with guy lewis, former u.s. attorney reading in on this case again. i urge a lot of you, i think it's up on the site, the full transcript of that. i know we always see things through a political prism, normally when there are a lot of big explosive comments out there, they're certainly worth

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what went down from greg kelly and how to prevent something like this from happening in the first. t ray the former new york police commissioner. what did you think of this. >> since the death of george floyd, we've seen this type of disorders that come out really for no reason. the police were trying to maintain order. there was no reason to attack them yet, they were the larger sense the target and shows the power of social media and the power of the internet to assemble large numbers much people in a sort period of time and this exploded. this went from like 300 people to about 3,000 people in short order. so, it's something that's very difficult to guard against, quite frankly. the police department in new york is down several thousand police officers. they don't have a standing group of police officers to

respond to disorder. they have to be assembled. that takes time and that's what happened yesterday. 65 arrests, but i'm pretty certain that those people who were arrested will be released shortly. if this district attorney is acting true to form, this is what happened after george floyd riots in 2020, that people who were arrested formed a group of plaintiffs, sued the city and just received in the last few months several million dollars distributed to them. so being arrested is no deterrent, unfortunately, to these young people these days, particularly in new york county. neil: you know, i'm just wondering, ray, what happens to this live streamer, kai cenat, i hope i'm pronouncing that

correctly, he may not have known the fallout of his offer, 6 or 7 million followers, very popular fellow, but what about him? >> well, again, i don't think much will happen to him either. i don't believe he was looking to have thousands of people show up. maybe he was, maybe they can prove that, he's charged with inciting a riot. they're going to have to prove that in court. i think, quite frankly, we'll see his case dismissed fairly soon. they'll hold onto it for a while, but then he'll be dismissed. that's the world in which we live these days unfortunately. neil: how much can you be punished-- forget about the disruption and it got a little violent, but it could have been a lot more violent to your point, but when thousands of new yorkers in this case can't get to their train or they can't leave, that

it's disruptive way beyond that area. does that come into play? or is it a pass? >> absolutely. you know, new york has a lot of problems these days. people are leaving new york. this only reinforces that type of movement. people see this. this affects their quality of life. as you say, you can't get to the train, you can't drive your car or if you drive your car, you know, people are jumping on the roof of your car or perhaps kicking your window in. that's not a message to stay in new york, or i love new york. it's not good for the city and you know, the politicians have to get that message. we need a much stronger response to disorder. when you talk about new york these days to a lot of people from outside the city, they think disorder. it looks like nobody's in charge. and you know, crime is up. yeah, it's gone down a little

bit in the last couple of months, but it's still way too high and it just reinforces the notion that new york is not a place to live or to work or to go out to dinner. yesterday they took plates off people's table and threw it back at the police and ran through a cvs store and looting it. this is not the type of thing that any city, of course, wants, but it currently reinforces the current representation of new york in being a place that's out of control. neil: yeah, i know. you and i have discussed it. it isn't the covid situation that gives people pause even in the early days it was and is remaining the crime. ray kelly, former n.y.p.d. commissioner, good seeing you, ray. thank you. >> thank you, neil, good to be with you. neil: same here.

in the meantime, another problem for new york thousands of migrants pouring in with a city overwhelmed with how to deal with it. a top democratic assemblyman here who has questions and demands after this. check. psych! and i'm about to steal this game from you just like i stole kelly carter in high school. you got no game dude, that's a foul! and now you're ready to settle the score. game over. and if you don't have the right home insurance coverage, well, you could end up paying for all this yourself. so get allstate, and be better protected from mayhem, yeah, like me. thanks, bro. take a lap, rookie. real mature.

>> all right. this is how bad the migrant situation has gotten. a number of democratic-run city are hearing it from democratic politicians, at least 54 of them signing onto a letter of the president of the united states. the biden administration in particular looking for some sort of assistance. ron kim is among them, a democratic new york city assembly member who has seen, obviously, the migrants camped out on sidewalk and the rest, and the hotels overflowing and wants to see something done about it.

and assemblyman, good to have you. >> thank you for having me back, neil. neil: let me ask you a little about what prompted this. you've been pretty vocal on this long before a lot of your colleagues and so you've been warning this day would be coming. it's coming in droves and so are migrants. where do you think this goes? >> yeah, i think this is a clear case of an administrative crisis. you know, we have administrative failures from the bottom up and we need to stop blaming and start building capacity and those are the five words i have for the mayor and the white house, stop blaming and start building capacity. when i say capacity, neil, i don't mean more outsourcing or contracting out, government functions to nonprofits. i'm talking about public administrative ability to keep everyone safe in our communities. neil: that's easier said than done, right? i mean, you always hear from the mayor there's no money

there to do that, but new york is a sanctuary city, you know, it has an open door policy to welcoming migrants and the rest, the same in l.a., san francisco, a host of others. what is different about what they're dealing with with what let's say, texas governor abbott is dealing with at his border? >> again, everything goes back to our administrative capacity to execute on the laws. we can't enforce the laws like sanctuary cities, it's a classic example, then we have a crisis. we can pass all the laws in the world to expand people's rights, we expand housing, expand this, but if we can't administer those laws then we have a failing government. now, the multi-billion dollar question is, what are we going to do if we get this money from the federal dollars, are we going to be a giant procurement office and empower more nonprofits with no-show jobs and fraud, are do something

about helping people. if we can't we should just be honest, hey, you know, we don't have the capacity anymore and i'm sorry that we misled you and we will try to do a better job, but right now today we no longer have the public ability to help you. i'd rather deal with that kind of honesty than mislead people that we actually can help people. neil: have you heard back from anyone at the white house? >> you know, the-- between the inflation reduction act and the infrastructure act we already have the mechanisms built in, the power of the purse is out there. it's the local and state ability to activate-- >> wait a minute, why would those two acts provide the means to deal with this. isn't the problem at the border and people coming in because it's gotten to be a seive? that's where it all starts, right? >> yeah, i mean, i think whatever, whatever we ask directly for money, the point is there are other mechanisms that the federal government has

decided to open up. it's up to-- >> you're right, i get that, sir and appreciate you coming here to explain that because you're right, but the mechanisms are after the fact mechanisms you're coming up with. that might be a case of throwing up your hand and saying we can't get this problem solved so we might as well deal with the problem that's already here, but it encourages trying to clean up after the fact and not addressing the source of the problem right at the border and the fact that, you know, it's so easy to come into the united states and let this law happen. >> yeah, i mean, that's had a federal problem that, you know, we will look forward to working with the biden administration on, but the local level-- >> but it's not happening, right? they're not doing it. i'm not casting aspersions on them, but that's not happening. you don't deal with the root of the problem at the problem, where it is the problem, you're going to have what's going on in new york, l.a., san francisco, seattle, popping up

everywhere, everywhere. >> right. and the problem, again, is when we offer sanctuary cities without administrative means to fulfill those duties, we're seeing-- we're seeing what we're seeing now, people on the streets struggling and it's not on them. i mean, among those migrants, you know there could be the next albert einstein, a young kid struggling to find a piece of american dream in our state and we're failing them. it doesn't feel good-- >> but they're failing us, right? there are proper ways to come in here assemblyman, and others that are not so proper. a million plus call themselves citizens every year in this country and are added to this country, but isn't that the problem? i think it keeps going back to that. the root of the problem. >> right. and on the other side, neil, we also have offered the legislative intent behind sanctuary cities. in urban environments like new york city we've given a clear

and loud message no matter how you come here, we'll offer that kind of safeness for you, but if we can no longer provide that safety net then we have a crisis. so we either need to be honest about building capacity or tell the entire world we no longer have the public capacity to take care of people. neil: so, in your mind, assemblyman, do you think those who espouse sanctuary cities are hypocrites? >> those who -- in terms of the mayors and executives, i think we're failing administratively. neil: if they're not up to the task, why do they brag they're up in the task, sounds hypocritical. >> it's not a matter of hypocrisy, it's an honest assessment where we are as a local and state government to take care of people. are we going to continue to pitch lies that we have the capacity to help people or are we going to be honest about,

hey, we could only do this amount of work for you and we don't have the capacity right now today to do more beyond that all we have is more outsourced contracts and nonprofits and that's not good enough. neil: good it. assemblyman, you raise a lot of solid points. ron kim, new york city assemblyman. >> thank you so much, neil. neil: in the meantime we've known for years that china spies on us. what we didn't know, it can be pretty effective trying to recruit our own soldiers from helping them out. the case of two navy sailors that is raising international outrage. have fun, sis! ( ♪ ) ( ♪ ) can't stop adding stuff to your cart? get the bank of america customized cash rewards card, choose the online shopping category and earn 3% cash back. our ears connect us to the moments that matter. give them the nutrients they need with lipo. it's formulated with ingredients clinically shown

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>> all right. china continues to spy on the united states. that's hardly worth a fox news alert. sorry for that part. but actually that alert was warranted because apparently might have succeeded in recruiting two navy sailors to lep t-- to help them out. jonathan hunt. >> these are two separate cases, but according to prosecutors are strikingly similar, involving u.s. navy sailors selling the nation's secrets. when a soldier or sailor chooses cash over country and hands over national defense information in an ultimate act of betrayal we have to be ready to act and that's exactly what we have done here. >> one of the sailors was

stationed at naval base san diego and one at naval base, and house the pacific fleet with naval exercises that would have been of critical interest to china and would be central to any potential conflict over taiwan. spying among nations is not unusual of course, but the extent of china's operations, officials say, makes it different. >> china among all such nations stands apart in terms of the threat that its government poses to the united states. china is unrivaled in the audacity and the range of its malign efforts to subvert our loss. >> one of the men charged, 22-year-old, served aboard the u.s.s. excess in san diego. he was a naturalized u.s. citizen having been born in china. and for around $15,000, he told to a chinese intelligence official detailed information on the essex and other ships,

information according to prosecutors could have put american lives at risk. the other sailor, 26-year-old was at the base in ventura and sold information about u.s. naval exercise plans and oper operational orders as well as u.s. navy facilities. the efforts to prevent chinese spying are ongoing and officials say they'll continue to hunt down and bring to justice anyone in the military who betrays, as prosecutors put it, their sacred oath to defend our country, neil. neil: thank you for that, jonathan. now to another super power that's threatening us, of course, russia. it's gotten a little antsy here, we're following a story that a russian war ship was last seen listing in the black sea after a ukrainian sea drones, several sea drones attacked, and the latest from

kyiv. >> hey, neil, an interesting one-two punch from the ukraine on the high seas. this is the counter offensive on the ground grinds along. overnight a cargo ship mostly responsible for shipment of oil to and from russia was hit by a ukrainian unmanned naval vessel, basically a drone of the seas they've used before damaging the ship and the night before, neil, they did the same thing, this time hitting a russian destroyer near the born important bridge that links russia to crimea. all seems to be linked to the pull-out from the black seas grain deal. and in saudi arabia this weekend, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy has met with the crowned prince bin salman in the past. and countries not including russia, trying to reach an understanding about the conflict. there's little understanding on

the battlefield. long time fox friend now at 27, the youngest member of parliament and active with armed forces on the front line tells us, it is slow going on the ground. take a listen. >> what are they using land mines? >> land mines first aplenty and they're mining everything that they can find because this is the only guarantee for them obstacle for the offensive and definitely the first. >> and for that-- >> very much so, the land mines are the number, not seen since the first world war. >> not seen and since world war i, the devastation being wreaked by the mines. back to the black sea, a new reuters report say that russia scrambled a fighter plane, su-30 to the black sea area to try to intercept or at least fend off or nudge away a u.s.

reconnaissance plane in that same area. a lot of people coming head to head. back to you. neil: yeah, that's just coming in, scary stuff. we're going to pursue all of that with lt. colonel bob mcginnis. in the meantime, the aforementioned bob mcginnis is here, a globalist scheme for one world, a multiple talented author and book seller as well. first, on the tension growing with russia and now the latest provocation where it's dispatched an su-30 to prevent u.s. drones from violating its border in the black sea. i can easily see how that could get out of hand. what do you think of it? >> i think it will and that's the problem, neil. we see belarus allowing some of the wagner people to go to the lithuanian border. we see the poles being very, very concerned about and there for moving forces there.

president zelenskyy, he basically came out and said, look, you know, the battle is going into russian territory. after drone attacks in moscow and now one in the black sea against a cargo ship in the wake of pulling out of the grain deal, and of course, the attack on odesa the other day. i think that anything is on the table. the ukrainians are doing reasonably well given their adversary in the east, but it's now in the blah being-- black sea with an su-30 coming into the picture you're probably going to see some sort of expansion. now, our concern, obviously, it would expand into either lithuania, poland, romania and vessels other than our drones in the black seas. there are a house of issues here and it's not going away and likely to get worse. >> play out the china threat as

well. and sometimes they seem, sort of with russia dove-tailed going at us. with provocative acts, and china's case with north korea, what do you think about it. >> we've been asleep at the switch for decades. when mao tse tung took over the people's republic of china, there was warfare something colonels wrote about many years ago, they're going after us in terms of political warfare, cyber warfare, legal warfare, economic warfare, kinetic warfare. their military is giant, they have more icbm's than we do and their naval fleet is larger though not as capable as yet as ours. neil, what most people don't understand is that they've been collecting on us in a relentless way for decades. we've begun this year seeing

the balloon over america, the chinese police station in new york city, the spy base in cuba. we've seen china cyber attacks on us, robbing perhaps, $600 billion worth of intellectual property every year. we've seen malware placed in our critical infrastructure just like a ticking time bomb and of course, we've even see them buying land around military bases so there's a lot going on. neil: to put it mildly, colonel. as you were speaking we're getting more details before we go to a break to update you on this russian provocation. we're told that the russian crew identified the drone as a u.s. air force nq9a reaper reconnaissance drone. turned away from the border when the russian jet approached. the defense ministry has had no updates on this, nor have we. we'll have more after this. veteran homeowners, credit card debt piling up? great news. you can use your va benefit to pay off your high rate credit card debt with a lower rate va home loan from newday.

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for the first time since covid. but a lot of us forgot how to behave when we're at theaters maybe because we're watching movies alone in our cozy family rooms, but it's gotten out of hand and some movie theater owners are saying etiquette. they didn't ask me to do this story, they asked madison, who is all about etiquette. she has more on this stunning development. madison. >> we are back to the theaters, but people have forgotten their movie manners. people taking out their phones to tweet, scroll, text, put it owl and social media and causing problems. in a theater at brazil during the barbie movie a kid was reportedly watching a video outloud on his phone and resulted in a fight. and we've seen this movie go e ers. >> it's rude. it's not only for people, but yourself, respect your time,

enjoy the movie. >> and someone just got exposed to some of this and doing a quick text message and i'm like we're watching a movie, just trying to relax. >> here they try to avoid things like that with a near zero tolerance policy and frequent psa's like the tweet you're seeing. disruptive guests get one warning and then you're escorted out. they tell us even though this means kicking some customers out, it's actually helped them bring more customers in. >> we've seen a lot of people converts from other cinema chains who have had some poor experiences and gone to theaters and seen some bad projection, bad sound, bad fellow movie goers and they hear about us through some of our psa's. >> alamo tell us they're nearly at pre-pandemic attendance lives. in new york, fox business. neil: so behave, everyone, behave. all right, when we come back here, behave on your summer vacation, that's an understatement. we're all busy taking them and

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>> well, how is your summer going? for a lot of people it's a busy one. travelers are reporting right now they're going anywhere and everywhere, planes are packed, trains are packed. foreign destinations are particularly packed with americans. so much so that a lot of domestic travelers have to be enticed by special cut rate fares to do some of their vacationing here. it's a good environment so far. and lindsay joins us, a travel

and hospitality analyst. very early on you were saying it would be a busy season and kind of dismissing economic doom and gloomers that we wouldn't be having some fun. we are. what does it look like now going into the fall? >> yeah, it's been a strong summer. looking at our own data morning consult, we've seen that they've taken a leisure trip in the last month is the highest since we've been tracking in 2021 and we expect that that's going to continue through labor day, it's usually busy. labor day weekend is usually quite busy for the travel industry as well and our numbers are remaining strong. into the fall we'll probably see a little bit after drop-off as usual, but the rest of the summer is probably just as busy as the beginning has been. neil: you know, the foreign travel component surprises me. you would think that people dip their toes into the water before flying over the water.

what are we to make of that? >> i think it's still a factor of that revenge travel trend that we've seen. you know, people experiencing lockdowns and not being able to travel as much as they wanted to at the height of the pandemic. they're going and taking the bucket list trips now. the numbers i talked about, the folks travelling for leisure, the share that said they traveled internationally up nine points year over year so it's a factor of people, you know, having that pent up excitement and desire to go internationally and finally being able to do so this summer. neil: you know, you talk about how airlines are sort of trying to adjust to the pressure they face when flights are canceled and/or delayed and we have a lot of weather issues and then you heard one airline, i think it was united blaming the shortage of f.a.a., air traffic controllers and then there were problems with pilots and cementing labor deals with them, it seems to be an ongoing mess. people seem to be getting used to that, too.

>> yeah, weather is always going to be a factor. in the summer it's thunderstorms, fall hurricanes, and then snowstorms and it's something that travelers have to deal with. several areas across the travel industry haven't fully restocked since the pandemic. f.a.a., hotels, airlines and they're dealing with consumer demand just as high as it was before the pandemic so there's a real kind of off balance of the supply and demand where it was beforehand so i think the industry is still, you know, trying to recover in that way to deal with how much people are just excited to travel. neil: we'll see how it plays out lindsey, thank you. have a good summer yourself. we were talking about donald trump on the truth social site saying i'm coming after you, and what some of his supporters have called a kabal.

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