>> kayleigh: hello, this is "outnumbered," i'm kayleigh mcenany, here with co-host emily compagno, joining us fox business anchor dagen mcdowell, fox news contributor mollie hemingway and fox news contri contributor james freeman. we begin with biden administration in damage control mode after the families of 13

fallen service members demanded answers about the botched withdrawal from afghanistan. hard to believe, it's been two years since the lone suicide bomber attacked the airport in kabul. the attack claimed the lives of 150 afghan civilians and 13 united states service members tasked with aiding the efforts on the ground. you are looking at them now, heroes all of them. the families have been demanding accountability from the biden administration and blasted president biden. many parents don't have a clear understanding of their children's last moments. the parents are speaking about the efforts for answers. >> it was march of 2021, he was

leaving for his deployment. and i remember like it was yesterday. he stand outside the door and he hugged me and he said, mom, if i don't come back -- and i said, shut up, you're going to come back. he said, no, mom, if i don't come back, i want you to keep telling my story. i will fight until my last breath to get to the truth. >> we were told lies, given incomplete reportses, incorrect reports. total disrespect. all i wanted to know where my kid was, where he fell? how long did he last? did he fight? i was told to my face he died on impact, that is not true. >> when joe biden, our elected president into the room, he approached me, his words to me

were my wife jill and i know how you feel, we lost our son, as well and brought him hope in a flag-draped coffin. my heart started beating faster and i started shaking knowing their son died from cancer and they were able to be by his side. also wondering how someone could honestly be so heartless to say he knew how i felt a little over 24 hours of learning of my son's death. >> i'm calling out secretary blinken and secretary austin, general milley, general kenosha, lieutenant colonel whitehead, who could not give the order to the snipers to take out the bomber before he detonated his vest and ultimately the

president. do what our son did, be a grown man, admit to your mistakes, learn from them so this doesn't happen ever, ever again. you all need to resign immediately. >> kayleigh: emily, one thing that makes this heart breaking testimony, lack of empathy from commander-in-chief. you had morales mom said we know how you well, we brought our son home in a flag-draped coffin. the mom said my heart beat faster, i know their son died from cancer and they were able to be by his side, she was not. remind me of biden checking his watch, we'll put that video up.

the lack of empathy, we were watching this, she said, why does that woman sound so sad? a three year old is able to recognize empathy, our commander-in-chief, lack of empathy gets to me. >> emily: and the fact it is on top of his testimony that he in fact doesn't recall any general advising him to the contrary, he can't give them respect, slap in the face of every american. half second it would take to look a grieving gold star family in the eyes to say thank you for your sacrifice, i am thankful, anything to imply modcum of empathy, this commander-in-chief is incapable of it or making a sound decision to the cost of 13 service members. i was struck by staff sergeant daren taylor's mom who said i'm

not a victim, we're not victims, we are parents to mighty heroes, as you said earlier. call out the main-stream media, abc, cbs, nbc, covered megamillions and the women's soccer team and the plastic plant fire. there is refusal to acknowledge the pain these families are suffering and to testify they lied about the circumstances of her son's death, i can't wrap my head around that. best way to honor them is with truth and for them to say he died instantly and she knows he didn't, i don't understand that. general milley testified when called to resign, he said those kids at abbey gate don't get a

choice to resign, they did not resign, i will not resign. >> kayleigh: i started flipping back and forth during the channels, what could be more important, msnbc and abc, watch. >> trump is raising concern about the safety of donald trump. >> is concern donald trump will share evidence that should not be shared publicly? >> question never passed my mind about who paid for governor clarence thomas's motor home. he has a shot at beating mr. trump. >> the company that made remote work possible during the pandemic is telling employees, come back to the office. >> kayleigh: that was more important. >> dagen: this exemplifies how the media glossed over the absolute debacle that was the afghanistan withdrawal for the last two years and the american

people know better. joe biden approval rating has been underwater since that very moment. he's had a net negative disapproval from the american people ever since that and never recovered, been in double digits disapproval and the american people could see him standing up there publicly blithely lying over and over again to george stephanopoulos about al qaeda is gone from afghanistan, so the lying and also the incompetence driven by his own arrogance and that has not changed and it has worsened. this is not lack of empathy, this is overt bare minimum

apothy, an titheothy and sums up how he leads this nation, disregard for life, disdain for the sacrifice of service and it is putting self before country, personal gain before higher calling and dishonesty over truth. and he refuses to admit ever making a mistake and then puts his own minions in front of cameras to lie for him. remember when john kirby in april said all of this talk of chaos, i just didn't see it in afghanistan, a lot to be proud of. >> what was he watching? >> dagen: people who lost their loved ones and sons and daughters heard that and it is shameful. >> kayleigh: biden called the evacuation a success. mollie, the comparison keith

kellogg made with how the trump administration treated the loss of life. watch this. >> this is what i saw when i went up with the president and vice president for dignified transfer at dover air base, when the remains would come off and you go talk to the families, the r rawness and that started within hours of their loved ones dying. not to -- just breaks your heart and hits you right in the gut. i want to know what happened. it borders on criminal that the president or secretary of defense or chairman of the joint chief has not sat down with families and said this happened. >> kayleigh: he gave personal business card and said call me and personally fielded the calls. >> so important to hear from general kellogg. president biden must stop lying

to gold star families, it has to stop. it is unacceptable, everybody in the media regardless where they are, should be condemning him, you might remember how the media participated in lies about president trump's treatment of soldiers who had lied, went crazy by a story that was debunked. they went with the lie and they don't care about these families being brutalized by our president with falsehood how his son died, from cancer, he is not a gold star dad, that is important. hold them accountable for the departure of afghanistan and we get into war would you tell us thinking how to get out of them or win them and no one is held accountable, afghanistan, ukraine, iraq war, nobody held

accountable. >> kayleigh: lie about trump, that came out when i was pres secretary, they said it was flat-out lies. james, department of defense expresses condolences to the gold star families, we are forever grateful for their service, that is what it reads in part. >> james: i'm sure it will not mean much at this point. you talk about the selfishness and recklessness with other people's lives. the president wanted political win of being out of afghanistan by 20th anniversary of 9/11 in 2021. go back to his statements in july before the debacle, afghan army well equipped ready to go, we'll support them. if needed, he talked about how we're going to help the people who help us, the translators, all the things that turned out not to be true. then and later pretending a

trump agreement bound him, as if he hadn't been trashing every trump movement and taliban honored the agreement and we had no choice. i think the reason he lost most of the country at that moment and they have never come back is you can forgive mistakes, it is character flaws and we're now seeing it with the finally revelations on the family enrichment schemes. it is deep, issue of deep character flaws and joe biden, that was the moment a lot of americans figured it out. >> kayleigh: he wanted political win, he got a political loss and they have never recovered. >> dagen: biden administration had key intel they should not give up the bagram air field, which is where the u.s. housed and detained the suicide bomber that killed the 13 individuals. these service members would not

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eric adams plan to build housing center on randall island on children's soccer fields. the post says, kicked out. others are starting petitions to save their beloved fields. what say you? >> james: this is the fault of the federal government, the president. insanity of this policy, we have a tight labor market 3.5 unemployment. 42% of small businesses have open positions they can't fill. we designed this perfect disaster, where we have no law and order at the border and we have impeddism to them working, taxpayers play to house them in hotels and soccer fields.

i don't know why the president doesn't work out a deal for secure border and let's put people to work. >> emily: new yorkers are being affected, randall island said, why are you flying in the face of supporters who worked to build this resource, it is kids and adults that use the field and at least 3000 cancelled problem. >> it is nationwide problem not having protected border, there are border towns throughout the country and cities in midwest completely overrun with problems associated with illegal immigration and new york city, a massive city with tons of space and resources, it is hard for

them and it is a big deal, this is what the rest of the country has been dealing with. president biden will not shut the border, he cares about open border, something he cares about, campaigned on and it is again, another issue where the media, which were horrific to the trump administration don't care about the humanitarian crisis, drug problem, human trafficking. >> emily: first gyms, now fields. >> kayleigh: and american children being replaced for men. migrant shelter built for 2000 men, who are taking 3000 hours from american children and rek ragsz. in brooklyn, a park was taken over and anonymous 30 year old said she was a government worker and they were displacing a community child nutrigsz prep program to move to another site.

vulnerable american children displaced by men. >> emily: we pay for the fields as taxpayers, estimated cost to clean it up after tentses are gone is 2 million, we will pay hundred times over. >> dagen: i'm with mollie, zero sympathy for people upset about this. moms on the upper northeast, it is not reach to know this is what they vote for. they vote for democrats up and down the ballot all day long and they never thought this problem would arrive in their parks and play groundeds, when you vote for democrats and they open the border, not on my doorstep, they thought it will just be a border town, border state issue, it is hurting their children. now it is hurting your children and leave it up to the democrats

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first republican debate here on fox news, the 2024 election season is heating up. president biden and former president trump could not be closer in latest 2024 "new york times" poll, two tied with 43% each. this comes despite president trump's 30 indictment, trump is dominating the gop primary poll, majority support most show and biden struggle to win over voters within his own party. democrats are encouraging comp tigsz. >> this is not about him, it is about listening to people, in this bubble in washington, people get tone deaf fast and we should be listening. my call to those well positioned, well prepared of good character and competency to jump in. democrats and the country need competition, we need to meet the moment and the moment is now, that is what the country is

asking. >> kayleigh: president biden has significant event on the compain trail. flash back to his love of talking about the weather, language to this absurdity from goldman. >> the witness stated clearly they never discussed any business on that phone conversations, there were niceties and hello and talked about the weather but never any business. >> kayleigh: 20 phone calls about the dream, potus sits down with the weather channel to discuss the planet. >> emily: hilarious, he is just a joke, he is sitting down with the weather channel to promote re resilience. you know where voters are in arizona? dealing with the fact 50

migrants are kept in pens in extreme heat because cartel like to drop them in the desert and border patrol play rescue service and law enforcement and the week title 42 ended we had record breaking surges. this week in arizona, u.s. border patrol, record-breaking 1000 person increase from previous week, 10,000 people crossing the border this week alone, most adult men, fentanyl, meth, three firearms and 400 migrants had to be rescued, why not meet voters where they are there, president biden. >> kayleigh: i saw this, staffing up rob that flaherty, number two on the campaign, important of digital influencers and flaherty's name, texas

lawsuit, missouri v biden, he e-mailed facebook several times, this needs to be resolved immediately, remove this accident immediately. this is to facebook, i've been asking for biggest issues on your platform when it comes to vaccine hesitancy, he says, are you guys serious? i want an answer. this is the guy censoring people. >> mollie: speaks to importance of censorship. democrats would not win elections in the manner they do, without the amazing help of corporate media, which shades every story to be advantageous to democrats and this regime that elevates from left wing out sxlt suppresses real news coming from nonfavored media outlets and his role is key, democrats

need censorship to win election. >> kayleigh: james, hunter biden laptop was suppressed, hope they will not go down this same road this time. >> james: it is amazing, mollie was talking about rand paul the other day, how do you do this, both before and after president biden was electd and there seem to be no remedy and there has to be, whether the covid madness or fbi, doj, has to be punishment when federal agencies continue to intervene in election. >> dagen: punishment is from the courts, putting a stay in saying you are not alloweds to interfere in well, the first amendment, this is constitutional violation with flaherty, what to watch when the

media starts covering bribery corruption, biden family scandal and department of justice interference find democratic party moved on from joe biden, realize he will not be self-caring adult at the end of a second term at age of 86. >> kayleigh: no biden corruption, it is about the weather. it is sunny out, another singer standing up, ne-yo redistracts his apology, good for him, for discussing gender transition in children. ♪ i gotta good feeling about this, yeah ♪ ♪ i'm with it ♪ ♪ i gotta good feeling about this ♪ ♪ yeah, ♪ ♪ so let's get it ♪

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>> emily: r&b singer standing firm in his beliefs about gender transition for kids. ne-yo is father of seven children and recently shared thoughts on gender treatment for kids and parents who allow children to undergo them. >> parents have almost forgotten what the role of a parent is. is your little boy comes to you and says, daddy, i want to be, you just let him rock with that? if you let this five year old boy decide to eat candy all day, he will do that, when do you let a five year old, 12 year old make a life-change being

decision for themselves, when did that happen? >> and to medicate young kids, they can't drink alcohol. >> he can decide his sex. >> emily: those comments didn't go well with people online and an apology was posted, reading, after reflection, i express deepest aapology on my comments about gender equality and parenting. ne-yo pulled that back. >> i need you to hear from me, not the publicist, i do not apologize for having an opinion. i'm a 43-year-old heterosexual man raising five boys and three girls, if my opinion offended

somebody, that wasn't my intention, however, i'm entitled to feel how i feel. >> emily: yes, he is, dagen, from the horse's mouth, not the publicist's computer, he nailed it. >> dagen: so many years in this country, people have been frightened and cowed and intimidated into silence by this small, aggressive trans movement. it is not just parents, it is say young female athletes, for example, you heard from riley gaines, it is like you better shut up, we're putting biological man in locker room with you, full male genitals in tact and you better shut up, your future is at risk if you say one word, but no more. the science is moving away from the trans movement overseas

finland, france, uk, they stopped using and pushing drugs, hormones and surgery on minor children. the parents are speaking out here and the scientists have moved away from that overseas and the world is changing. >> emily: what else i love, there is machine built around artists and he bucked that, too, i had nothing to do with what came out of my publicist computer, just like jason aldean, he said i stand by my song, these guys are larger than the manufactured machine the industry makes them out to be. they are real humans, parents and entitled to how they feel. >> someone who solely likes country music, count me ne-yo fan now. common sense and vast amount of americans agree, there are age

limits for voting, purchasing tobacco, filing lawsuit, creating will or buying fireworks but you can go have a double masectome, even though you might change your mind later. ne-yo said he will never be okay with gender affirming care for children. ne-yo walks back apology and doublings down on gender comments what is controversial about saying wait until you are 18. >> he is larger than the mob, entitled to how i feel, sorry if i offend you, not sorry for how i feel thchl is in line with cancelling of harry potter exhibit author, she is larger than them all, too. >> james: to say five year old and 10 year olds shouldn't be

making life-changing decisions, that is sensible, why did it require an aapology. we have convention in the industry, this is called gender affirming care. affirmations, i don't think need to come with radical medical intervention. >> good point. >> it does demonstrate how far this campaign has gone and it is nice american academy of pediatrics, they are now reviewing this and reviewing that science that you have had a lot of people around the world saying is this proven therapy, does it make people happier and allow them to thrive more? i think it has been a political answer and maybe now we'll get a scientific one. >> emily: in millions of apologies we have been subjected to, this underscores how it came

from the publicist computer, all language the same and we didn't mean it, sorry. it is probably not them sending it out, it is whoever is advising them to keep stock high and keep favor in the woke mob, i love ne-yo for this, authentic self. >> mollie: his comments sounded real and then the thing like a robot, you knew it didn't come from him, i was so glad to see him clarify he doesn't accept this left wing gobble goop. they are at odds from where science and reality is. polling is overwhelming and getting stronger. more people learn about radical trans agenda, lying about pronoun and sex and distinction, lying if mutilation of children

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>> get ready, live events in a brand new hour. we're watching for president biden delivering remarks live on bidenomics, his economic policies. he's set to tout them as most americans continue to deal with stubborn inflation, how will they spin it this time? nikki haley delivers town hall and president trump delivers remarks live from new hampshire as 2024 ramps up and news conference on mission prep with nasa, we'll be watching for that. join john roberts and i top of the hour.

>> kayleigh: president biden is trying to carry out his plan for massive student loan hand out even as supreme court blocked it. his new plan is facing legal battles like the first one. two nonprofits are suing to block it and say department of education has no authority to execute the plan. officials share insight with fox news digital. >> biden administration has decided to forgive 39 billion in student debt enacting 800,000 borrowers, described as accounting error. they say payments that should have counted terror repayment in the past were not counted in past and now do. this decision came out of nowhere until you realize it is part of biden larger plan to enact mass loan forgiveness,

legal or not. it is plainly illegal. i really hesitate to use the language the biden administration is using in calling it debt relief. 39 billion don't go away and get erased, they get transferred to the federal taxpayer. burden of student loan debt is transferred from people who took out the loan to people who didn't. most don't have college degree, many more made a decision based on where they were confident they could repay their loan and fulfill that obligation they signed up for. many have paid off their student debt and by transferring this debt from people who took it out, biden administration is saying too bad, don't care about

your financial choices, you are on the hook for billions of dollars. >> kayleigh: james, lawn service guy paying for the college graduate. >> james: white house position is education department so mismanaged this department, they had 800,000 people in the wrong category. you do wonder the credibility, it gets rolled out after the supreme court bounces the other plan. did the people have no idea what the forbearance terms were? i doubt it. >> dagen: no one has been making federal student loan payments since march of 2020, start making payments in the fall. no interest, as well, that has

been a 419 billion dollar bailout, i had heritage run the numbers and 290 billion in interest that was never paid and will not be paid in addition when you have no interest accruing student loans declined in real value by the inflation rate another 129 billion. there has been already a bailout, s scotus has no say so thachl is what people have gotten since 2020. >> mollie: it does show how much the left views college as places of power. colleges have increased tuition, awarding colleges for this bloat is absurd and insane particularly when it is

politically unpopular to have middle-clas people paying for the graduate loan of wealthy people. but it really does show that the left relies on places of power and they will continue to protect and defend them. >> emily: 804,000 borrowers, never before so much given to so little. it is a joke, we will all be negatively impacted forever. >> kayleigh: solely about winning gen-z and millennials come november. more "outnumbered" in just a moment. veteran homeowners know it's getting harder and harder to make ends meet. credit card rates are averaging 22% and still climbing. even car and truck loans can be 15%. but newday's rates are a fraction of that. the newday 100 va cash out loan

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